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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
758
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:49:00 -
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Quote:Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP
Now please kindly shut the hell up.
Oh and I'm gonna go ahead and spoil it for you, Battleship HP will help, but all the HP in world wont stop people from nuking you, but at least this change may push the threshold too high for people to want to gank solo miners.
The trade off for your safety will be that you must give up some of your yield and hold to gain this advantage.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
511
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:52:00 -
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This is new and exciting information... |

Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
97
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:53:00 -
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Panda McLegion weighs in on the matter. |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:53:00 -
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You forgot this part:
Quote:Mining output: first and most visible balancing factor, plan is to increase all barge mining output to be within an acceptable margin of the Hulk, not miles behind as it is currently. |

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
314
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:58:00 -
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Some of the yield...you meant 1/3rd of the yield right?
But hey, it mines better than a FRIGATE, how could we possibly complain?
Personally, I'm gonna just stick to tanking my Hulk and paying attention, unless they plan to really up the input you get from the new procurer/skiff. Last time I checked, you can only mount one laser to both of these right?
The post above does contain very hopeful info though...if the yield is less, but not a whole lot less, this stuff will be great. |

THE L0CK
Denying You Access
506
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:01:00 -
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Why hello there new, exciting, and completely original thread. And how are we doing today? Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
216
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:02:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Quote:Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP Now please kindly shut the hell up. Oh and I'm gonna go ahead and spoil it for you, Battleship HP will help, but all the HP in world wont stop people from nuking you, but at least this change may push the threshold too high for people to want to gank solo miners. The trade off for your safety will be that you must give up some of your yield and hold to gain this advantage.
I suspect the price point for one of these new brick barges will right on par with a sufficient gank squad of Tier3 BCs. |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
36
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:02:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:Some of the yield...you meant 1/3rd of the yield right?
But hey, it mines better than a FRIGATE, how could we possibly complain?
Personally, I'm gonna just stick to tanking my Hulk and paying attention, unless they plan to really up the input you get from the new procurer/skiff. Last time I checked, you can only mount one laser to both of these right?
The post above does contain very hopeful info though...if the yield is less, but not a whole lot less, this stuff will be great.
I guess you completely skipped the post I made just before this.
Mining output: first and most visible balancing factor, plan is to increase all barge mining output to be within an acceptable margin of the Hulk, not miles behind as it is currently. |

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
314
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:04:00 -
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Andoria Thara wrote:Ana Vyr wrote:Some of the yield...you meant 1/3rd of the yield right?
But hey, it mines better than a FRIGATE, how could we possibly complain?
Personally, I'm gonna just stick to tanking my Hulk and paying attention, unless they plan to really up the input you get from the new procurer/skiff. Last time I checked, you can only mount one laser to both of these right?
The post above does contain very hopeful info though...if the yield is less, but not a whole lot less, this stuff will be great. I guess you completely skipped the post I made just before this. Mining output: first and most visible balancing factor, plan is to increase all barge mining output to be within an acceptable margin of the Hulk, not miles behind as it is currently.
I referenced your post. I was writing mine when you posted yours, and it's very welcome news. |

Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
36
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:05:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote: I referenced your post. I was writing mine when you posted yours, and it's very welcome news.
D'oh, you updated it while I was replying lol  |

Nyreanya
Serenity Labs New Eden Research.
164
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:10:00 -
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I heard the Lion King theme in my head when I read this. NAAAAAAaaants ingonyaamaaaaaaaa bagithi Baba And there was much rejoicing. |

Joe Hinken
Cetan Consortium
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:15:00 -
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Nyreanya wrote:I heard the Lion King theme in my head when I read this. NAAAAAAaaants ingonyaamaaaaaaaa bagithi Baba And there was much rejoicing.
That which has been heard cannot be unheard. |

Mac Tir
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:17:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:This is new and exciting information...
...and yet you still bumbled into this thread |

Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
14
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:32:00 -
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The mining frigate sounds like it would be fun to run about lowsec with, mining is still boring as hell though, think ill stick to WHs until they make it a bit more interactive. |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
354
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:38:00 -
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Nyreanya wrote:I heard the Lion King theme in my head when I read this. NAAAAAAaaants ingonyaamaaaaaaaa bagithi Baba And there was much rejoicing.
Hakuna Matata https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
347
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:52:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:The trade off for your safety will be that you must give up some of your yield  and hold to gain this advantage.
Hooo boy. Wiping away those laughter tears.
Taking off 2 strippers to leave the ONE that the silly ship even holds.............yessir, that is SOME yield.
OMG forbid they ever nerf your PI tax rates by 66%. We will never hear the end of it. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1169
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:21:00 -
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No, YOU shut the hell up!
Nothing really about the blog or mining, just zip it in general.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
758
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:21:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Or give up 66% yield of your OTECMoons. There we go.
Sometimes i have to wake up at 6am on a sunday to go defend or repair my moons.
Just because you don't see the downside to the moons doesn't meant there isn't one thats there. Moons (even the non broken ones that aren't tech) take a ton of care, feeding, and sometimes ruining a whole day of your life that you'll literally never get back just to deal with.
So, if I were you, I'd probably just shut up and be happy that CCP paid attention to all your whining and gave you a platform that has a chance to do all the things you ninnys have been begging for.
You're also failing to note that barges will get a yield increase, but do go on being a bitter sour little cry baby.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
13
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:24:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Quote:Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP Now please kindly shut the hell up. Oh and I'm gonna go ahead and spoil it for you, Battleship HP will help, but all the HP in world wont stop people from nuking you, but at least this change may push the threshold too high for people to want to gank solo miners. The trade off for your safety will be that you must give up some of your yield and hold to gain this advantage.
If its going to be a useful ship it should mine better than a battleship. |

Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:27:00 -
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Fantastic changes!! |

Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
28
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:28:00 -
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Im gonna go mine in a procurer now before it becomes cool.  |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
758
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:29:00 -
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Edited the OP with all the actual mining barge changes so all the retards who don't bother reading these (yet still post half cocked stupidity that is obviously addressed in the blog like mining yield ect) can see all the changes intended.
Mining should actually get better, at least in the tools for use department. |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1169
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:40:00 -
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Grath, stop crying.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
18
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:45:00 -
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Updated barges...mining is still on par with playing Desert Bus. |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
758
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:46:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Grath, stop crying.
Marlona, if you took me places after i get all dressed up like this maybe I wouldn't cry, did you ever think about me? WHAT ABOUT ME MARLONA, WHEN DO MY FEELINGS MATTER.
God, this is the same thing we talked about a couples therapy, its like you're not taking our relationship seriously.
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Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1169
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:53:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Grath, stop crying. Marlona, if you took me places after i get all dressed up like this maybe I wouldn't cry, did you ever think about me? WHAT ABOUT ME MARLONA, WHEN DO MY FEELINGS MATTER. God, this is the same thing we talked about at couples therapy, its like you're not taking our relationship seriously. Your feeling don't matter and our relationship was just supposed to be platonic! Then you had to complicate things. 
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
442
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:54:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:The trade off for your safety will be that you must give up some of your yield  and hold to gain this advantage. Hooo boy. Wiping away those laughter tears. Taking off 2 strippers to leave the ONE that the silly ship even holds.............yessir, that is only SOME yield I guess. OMG forbid they ever nerf your PI tax rates by 66%. We will never hear the end of it. Or give up 66% yield of your OTECMoons. There we go.
I have to fit a tank to my ratting ship. You have to fit a tank to your mining ship. Also PI is glutted right now and the prices have been consistently dropping on individual income for it for a while, so you are talking out your ass. As far as tech goes: You could easily cut 66% of our income by coming and taking away our tech. Just like I'm taking away 50% of your income by shooting you unless you fly something else.
You don't get to lived in a closed system while the rest of us have to face the consequences of other players actually existing. I'm sorry you think that it should be the case: but it never will. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
7959
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:06:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Taking off 2 strippers to leave the ONE that the silly ship even holds.............yessir, that is only SOME yield I guess. Good thing that nothing of the kind is happening, then. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Ocular Shadows
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.06.15 03:19:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Nyreanya wrote:I heard the Lion King theme in my head when I read this. NAAAAAAaaants ingonyaamaaaaaaaa bagithi Baba And there was much rejoicing. Hakuna Matata
What a wonderful phrase. |

Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
106
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Posted - 2012.06.15 03:25:00 -
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WE WANT A MINING SHIP WITH DREADNOUGHT HP, FREIGHTER SIZED CARGOHOLD AND 2000% HULK MINING YEILD WTF CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Minmatar V3 gallery: http://minus.com/mOqXRikn5 |
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