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yakamuri zelda
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:23:00 -
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Just lost a hurricane in Reblier when I landed 39km away from the gate having gone past it. And then in a bubble. I was severely outnumbered, but that's beside the point.
Isn't warp to within 0km supposed to land you within 0? Well at least 2-3k like usual.
Is something that CCP would reimburse?
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:24:00 -
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It will land you at the edge of bubbles when there are any.
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Mudad
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:25:00 -
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The bubble pulled you, thats why they put it there, intended mechanic no re imbursement. Just one of the joys of 0.0
----------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Korizan
Red Mercury Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:26:00 -
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Warp to Zerp does just that, Well 0 to 2500 meters that is. HOWEVER
The WARP Bubble pull you into it. And that is its Function.
SO Both are working as intended. And now you know about warp bubbles, Nasty buggers aren't they 
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white kight
Galaxy Punks Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:26:00 -
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fail troll is fail.
If you warped into a bubble you were in 6-c and not in reblier. Bubbles cannot be used in low sec.
Learn the mechanics before whining
Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:36:00 -
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Damn alt. This is OP.
Yeah it landed me at the edge. Which was 39km from the gate. ------
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white kight
Galaxy Punks Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: white kight on 16/11/2009 16:43:15
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Damn alt. This is OP.
Yeah it landed me at the edge. Which was 39km from the gate.
Then you were in 0.0 and not Reblier which is low sec
edit: Proof
Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: yakamuri zelda Isn't warp to within 0km supposed to land you within 0? Well at least 2-3k like usual.
Yes, if there is no drag bubble.
Quote: Is something that CCP would reimburse?
No.
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:46:00 -
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And I'm not whining at all - it's not the first Hurricane I've lost. I was just curious as to why that happened. And I got my answer.
And yeah, I was in 6-CZ49 going to jump into Reblier. My bad. ------
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Corduroy Rab
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:47:00 -
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methinks a bubble foiled your warp.
Just checked our kb, yes you were in 6-c warping to the Reb gate (which is nearly perma camped). If a bubble is placed inline with the direction you are warping from then you will be pulled into it, this is likely what happened to you. To avoid this you should try to come from an odd angel, such as not from a gate or the station, but from some random celestial that is not in the same line as the gates or station, but frankly seeing how this gate is locked down sometimes, that might not even work. If you need to get by that area a lot get a cov ops or something to make a warpable point that is well off the gate in an odd direction that you can warp to first, or get a safe spot close to the gate so you can scan for bubbles before warping there.
Last, CCP should not reimburse this.
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12 Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27 Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme. ------
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Corduroy Rab
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.16 16:57:00 -
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Never underestimate the power of a cool meme. ---- Proper piracy starts at home. |

Amber Bock
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.11.16 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12 Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27 Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme.
People call troll because its a brand new alt, hence no picture. Flying a hurricane in 0.0. Which sounds like a troll.
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Marine HK4861
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.16 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre
Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
You forgot to add the price of Platinum Insurance which is 11mil, so you lost 3mil overall.
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Axis and Alloys Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.11.16 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Bock
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:54:12 Edited by: JeanMichel Bizarre on 16/11/2009 16:53:27 Yeah well... to think I have actually made a profit off of this. Insurance was 37mil, the ship I got for 20mil and the fittings were just a bit over 9mil according to the killmail.
Yaaay.
I also hate it how people call trolls so easily just cause it's a cool meme.
People call troll because its a brand new alt, hence no picture. Flying a hurricane in 0.0. Which sounds like a troll.
Are you serious? Nano Shield tanked Hurricane is plenty worth flying.
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CCP Atropos

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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:36:00 -
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I'm actually intimately familiar with that having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. That gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past the gate and into the bubble.
If you want to bounce around the bubble you need to either come in from the 6E-578 gate or the station, however since both are low (beneath the Reblier gate by a large margin and angle), with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles.
I've personally got several bookmarks to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from, ie: above and to the side of the Reblier gate.
Unfortunately for you, what you experienced was normal gameplay and as such won't be reimbursed.
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Doomed Predator
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos I'm actually intimately familiar with that having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. That gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past the gate and into the bubble.
If you want to bounce around the bubble you need to either come in from the 6E-578 gate or the station, however since both are low (beneath the Reblier gate by a large margin and angle), with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles.
I've personally got several bookmarks to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from, ie: above and to the side of the Reblier gate.
Unfortunately for you, what you experienced was normal gameplay and as such won't be reimbursed.
Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
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CCP Atropos

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Posted - 2009.11.16 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Software Engineer Core Engineering |
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Shhhhh! Your greatest defence is that they really do think you guys are all a bunch of drooling cro-magnons smashing out code with a big knobbly club!
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Grarr Wrexx
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Shhhhh! Your greatest defence is that they really do think you guys are all a bunch of drooling cro-magnons smashing out code with a big knobbly club!
They're not?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
You don't work in game design, so you don't count.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Wrexx
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Shhhhh! Your greatest defence is that they really do think you guys are all a bunch of drooling cro-magnons smashing out code with a big knobbly club!
They're not?
Technically they are not.
Entirely different branch. Chimps, not cro-magnon. Shouldn't confuse the two. Big differences.
It's the poo flinging mainly. Makes all the different. Fling it at a keyboard and see what sticks. Usually quite a bit strangely enough.
Veal, murder. Baby Carrots, healthy snack. Food hypocrisy at work. |

Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.11.16 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos I'm actually intimately familiar with that having spent many years based from one system over, EZA-FM. That gate is great for camping, primarily because it's an Empire gate. The EZA-FM and PVH8-0 gates are together in a pair, which means by placing a Mobile Warp Disruptor behind the gate, as I think these guys must have done, you get pulled past the gate and into the bubble.
Yes i remember those days, not all good but much pew pew was had by all involved... mostly at me :P
But yes bubbles suck (pun intended) and either having prior warning and BM's made or a strategic cruiser with the interdiction nullifier subsystem are a must to avoid bubbles :P Rally Against Evil Site |

Ryhss
Caldari Sarum A Fortiori Sanctimony of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.11.16 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ryhss on 16/11/2009 23:03:37
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre And I'm not whining at all - it's not the first Hurricane I've lost. I was just curious as to why that happened. And I got my answer.
And yeah, I was in 6-CZ49 going to jump into Reblier. My bad.
Don't let all the forum nzai's scare you. I never thought you were whining, the way I read it to, was you warping into Reb.
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master chiefy
Caldari The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.11.16 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss Don't let all the forum nzai's scare you. I never thought you were whining, the way I read it to, was you warping into Reb.
How? He said he lost it in Reb. 
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Spurty
Caldari Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.16 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: master chiefy
Originally by: Ryhss Don't let all the forum nzai's scare you. I never thought you were whining, the way I read it to, was you warping into Reb.
How? He said he lost it in Reb. 
heh op didn't know where his towel was
Originally by: Machine Delta When making a point, anyone taking it should consider the source.
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:03:00 -
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Still there is something I don't understand and if someone could explain this I would be greatful.
What is it in a warp disruption bubble that causes you to get sucked towards it? What is the logical explanation behind this game mechanic? ------
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Melor Rend
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: yakamuri zelda Is something that CCP would reimburse?
ROFL that was a good one! 
I guess this is a new feature as part of Domination... you now have to upgrade your ships autopilot (costs only 50mil ISK per day!) so it does the same **** it does now. It's called "fixing" I believe.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 17/11/2009 08:12:24
Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre What is the logical explanation behind this game mechanic?
Makes gatecamps more dynamic? *shrug*
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:22:00 -
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I understand that but not what is it in a bubble that makes the gate push you beyond it, way over to 30kms. ------
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ElTimmie
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:38:00 -
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well 30km is a very small misalignment, coming from lets say 10au..
The warp alignment buffers which locks onto your target at 0 are horribly disturbed by the presence of the warp bubble over there and cause you to misalign by 0.000000001%. This will result in your 30km offset. Don't be fooled though, it will also bring you cookies. And we all love cookies in the end 
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JeanMichel Bizarre
Wrong Indeed
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Posted - 2009.11.17 08:50:00 -
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You can't say no to cookies, now, can ya? ------
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Dani Leone
Gallente How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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Posted - 2009.11.17 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre I understand that but not what is it in a bubble that makes the gate push you beyond it, way over to 30kms.
Think of a bubble as a magnet for warp drives. If you are roughly aligned with the bubble when you start warp, you'll end your warp just inside the bubble. The bubble is a weapon designed to do exactly this.
This is why putting small bubbles at X km away from or in front of a gate in alignment with another in system gate (or celestial object) is popular for catching people trying to run rapidly through the system. The way to avoid this (for small and most medium bubbles) is to warp to a celestial that is at different angle to the end point gate than the gate you start off at.
The best technique is to have on and off grid safe spots around the gates (as per Atropos) so you can nosy at what is going on and see if you have an angle you can wap to the gate from without being interdicted.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2009.11.17 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Wait, what?
You give such bad advice and claim to be playing actively?... Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets. It might be that Syndicate has rather soft pirates compared to Curse and such, even so the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
Now stop spending so much time doing CCP stuff, and get back to learning the basics of EVE.
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David Grogan
Gallente Final Conflict UK Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2009.11.17 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: David Grogan on 17/11/2009 11:53:09 Lesson 1 - warping to gates with warp bubbles and how to avoid dying
Bookmarks - Bookmarks & Bookmarks
if u regularly travel a pipe thats camped often get your ass in a covert ops frig and make warp to bookmarks above or below the gates u travel along. make the bookmark right at the edge of the grid where the gate is and warp to your bookmarks and not the gates directly if there is people in local
once u get to your bookmark above the gate u wish to jump through and its clear u warp to the gate and jump.
lesson 2 - warping to gates with warp bubbles and how to avoid dying
scout - scout - scout
if your in a slow mover (bc or above) use a low sp scout (preferably less than 900,000 sp in a t1 frig cos it wont matter if it gets podded)
lesson 3 - warping to gates with warp bubbles and how to avoid dying
intel - intel - intel
if you regularly use a region in 0.0 make sure u have your intel channel open and ask other if they know if the pipe is camped.
lesson 4 - warping to gates with warp bubbles and how to avoid dying
safe spots - safe spots - safe spots
yes make sure u have at least 1 safe spot in each system along the pipe SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
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CCP Atropos

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Posted - 2009.11.17 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Wait, what?
You give such bad advice and claim to be playing actively?... Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets. It might be that Syndicate has rather soft pirates compared to Curse and such, even so the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
Now stop spending so much time doing CCP stuff, and get back to learning the basics of EVE.
Bad advice? Bouncing from the alternate gate, or station as I suggested would give you a lower chance of being sucked into the most likely position that a bubble would be placed in. If you read my initial response you'll see that I said "however since both are low ... with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles."
I then go on to tell the OP that I make use of bookmarks "to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from". That's pretty sound advice in my opinion.
Maybe I'm more gung ho than you because I'm in Interceptors all the time, but that doesn't invalidate what I said and I'll stand by it all the way.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.11.17 12:48:00 -
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ITT more noobs spamming forums with ingame mechanics and super rare CCP dev who actually plays game. 
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Device Bearer
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Posted - 2009.11.17 12:48:00 -
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I think we all knew what you were saying, and I can never take the new RMR bloodlines seriously anyway 
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white kight
Galaxy Punks Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Wait, what?
You give such bad advice and claim to be playing actively?... Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets. It might be that Syndicate has rather soft pirates compared to Curse and such, even so the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
Now stop spending so much time doing CCP stuff, and get back to learning the basics of EVE.
Bad advice? Bouncing from the alternate gate, or station as I suggested would give you a lower chance of being sucked into the most likely position that a bubble would be placed in. If you read my initial response you'll see that I said "however since both are low ... with large bubbles it's easy to cover all the angles."
I then go on to tell the OP that I make use of bookmarks "to avoid exactly these situations, coming in from angles that no normal travel would come from". That's pretty sound advice in my opinion.
Maybe I'm more gung ho than you because I'm in Interceptors all the time, but that doesn't invalidate what I said and I'll stand by it all the way.
/signed. this is good advice no matter what anyone says. The best way to get round a sling bubble is to come from an angle thats not an obvious route, such as another gate or the station. Sometimes planets are the only way to get round it. Needs must, and if you need to GTFO then you will try anything to get away.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Wait, what?
You give such bad advice and claim to be playing actively?... Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets. It might be that Syndicate has rather soft pirates compared to Curse and such, even so the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
Now stop spending so much time doing CCP stuff, and get back to learning the basics of EVE.
Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
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CCP Atropos

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Posted - 2009.11.17 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
That's what makes the Reblier gate so good to camp; it's outside of the scan range of all celestials. Anyone who hasn't got a scan point prepared or a relay/bounce bookmark is out of luck.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.17 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: JeanMichel Bizarre I understand that but not what is it in a bubble that makes the gate push you beyond it, way over to 30kms.
It's not about the gate blowing you away. It's about the bubble sucking you.

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Mrs Snowman
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Posted - 2009.11.17 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets.
Fro RLY? Even if noone is in local?
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
riighht... If you did this ALL the time as you suggest it would take you so hideously slow to get to your destination a Freighter could catch you up o_O.
In fact, what you should say about 0.0 which everyone DOES know is that you NEVER say NEVER! :p
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.11.17 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Kinda funneh considering the ccpgates. The Enslaver or T20 or heuheuheu newbchar with gm spawned officer mods.
If ccp didnt play the game... how do these things happen?
------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded. |

Obsidian Hawk
Free Galactic Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.17 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Malcanis Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
That's what makes the Reblier gate so good to camp; it's outside of the scan range of all celestials. Anyone who hasn't got a scan point prepared or a relay/bounce bookmark is out of luck.
CCP Atropos is a dirty piwat!!!!!!!
*chases the piwat and tackles*
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.11.17 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Malcanis Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
That's what makes the Reblier gate so good to camp; it's outside of the scan range of all celestials. Anyone who hasn't got a scan point prepared or a relay/bounce bookmark is out of luck.
This is where a cap unstable tank comes handy, you can deplete your cap and do short warps. But it can take a while to get in scan range that way... If you don't have a way to deplete cap with modules you can still play tricks to get you below optimal recharge, like onlining something then using mwd/disruptor in case e.g. of an interceptor (just orbit and scram a jetcan if you are at a safe). -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |

Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.11.17 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Doomed Predator Wait, a dev who actually plays the game? This cannot be.
Don't let anyone know; can't have the stereotypes being proved wrong, y'know.
Wait, what?
You give such bad advice and claim to be playing actively?... Anyone who travels in 0.0 _knows_ that you never, ever, warp to a gate from gates nor stations nor planets. It might be that Syndicate has rather soft pirates compared to Curse and such, even so the only way to travel is by using BM's 200+ from each gate on the route.
Now stop spending so much time doing CCP stuff, and get back to learning the basics of EVE.
If you are trying to look smart, or elite, you aren't doing a very good job.
What are you going to do on your first visit to a system eh? Or perhaps on your 10th visit if you have never had an opportunity to make bookmarks due to a heavy enemy presence (not everyone flies a cloaker you know). 
If you rely solely on having premade perches everywhere you go, and refuse to learn how to read a system to find obtuse angles to come at the gate from, you are likely to go nowhere fast anywhere but outside your own little backyard.
Perhaps you should read more, and type less.
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Graugaard
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Posted - 2009.11.17 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Graugaard on 17/11/2009 18:09:08 CCP atro guy, are you in IT Alliance?
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross
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Posted - 2009.11.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Graugaard Edited by: Graugaard on 17/11/2009 18:09:08 CCP atro guy, are you in IT Alliance?
They aren't allowed to answer that. ---------- There is always a choice. The choice might not be easy, nor simple, nor the options be what you desire - but, nevertheless, the choice is there to be made. |

NyteTyger
Gallente NiteSun Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.11.17 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lubomir Penev
This is where a cap unstable tank comes handy, you can deplete your cap and do short warps. But it can take a while to get in scan range that way... If you don't have a way to deplete cap with modules you can still play tricks to get you below optimal recharge, like onlining something then using mwd/disruptor in case e.g. of an interceptor (just orbit and scram a jetcan if you are at a safe).
Easier to just pick a distant celestial and warp cancel a coupla times to cap out 
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ChronoSphere
Sturmgrenadier Inc Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Malcanis Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
That's what makes the Reblier gate so good to camp; it's outside of the scan range of all celestials. Anyone who hasn't got a scan point prepared or a relay/bounce bookmark is out of luck.
Another strategy for this if you DONT have a pre-placed BM, is create a safe first (because you don't want to be sitting in a warpable location while doing this) get to the safe, kill your speed, and then turn on mwd or somethign else to drain cap, and initiate and kill your warp repeatedly until you see the message about insufficient cap to reach the destination. This way you will drop out of warp hopefully close enough to the gate to scan the gate down, but not get pulled in by a warp bubble. -------------- ~Vice Admiral, Executive Officer Sturmgrenadier, Inc. Join Sturmgrenadier today! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Malcanis Unless said celestial is within scan range of course, in which case, a quick scan can save you a lot of warping around.
That's what makes the Reblier gate so good to camp; it's outside of the scan range of all celestials. Anyone who hasn't got a scan point prepared or a relay/bounce bookmark is out of luck.
I always bookmark gates like that whenever I get the chance.
Failing all else, make a bookmark just before hitting the gate. At least you'll have a scanspot for the next time you pass that way...
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Robert0288
Caldari R E D E M P T I O N
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Posted - 2009.11.18 00:20:00 -
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CCP Atropos is now in the list of top 5 devs
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