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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1838
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Posted - 2012.06.17 06:39:00 -
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Male Duckface wrote:Those of you that have access to hisec need to hit them where it hurts, the carebears. Plenty of Unistas don't bother reading the WSOP and will autopilot an Orca thru hisec, AFK mine in a belt, or run missions solo in something shiny.
Small tip, and I'd have expected Mr Duckface to have realised this as he's ex-Uni himself, but the member's don't have anything to do with setting policies, the SOP, or what gets chosen as a target.
If anything, those who lose stuff foolishly will learn from the mistakes, or they will ragequit, or we eventually kick them out for being stupid. It doesn't matter to any of the staff or management, and if anything gives the others more reasons to fight harder.
We used to police the SOP and members, and attempt to save people from their own stupidity, but the amount of work needed versus the 'learning experience' of losing their shiny new ship, it turns out its better to just let them die - they usually won't do it again, and neither will others who hear about it.
Still, if you want to try it out, go for it.
Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University |
3D Horrorshow
Black Rebel Rifter Club
5
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Posted - 2012.06.17 06:53:00 -
[32] - Quote
Kelduum Revaan wrote: Still, if you want to try it out, go for it.
http://r1fta.zzeve.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=13252
You were right, that WAS fun.
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Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
71
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:13:00 -
[33] - Quote
GAH, forums ate my post, trying to fix it =( |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
71
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Posted - 2012.06.17 07:16:00 -
[34] - Quote
Double post due to ~forums~ |
Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2012.06.17 10:13:00 -
[35] - Quote
This is possibly the worst thread related to us that I've ever seen, which is really saying something.
OP, if you're a unista, you're an absolute disgrace and should leave the corp immediately before I find out who you are and kick you.
To everybody else, the misrepresentation of facts going on here is incredible. We didn't go into Molden Heath with the aim to blob the area into submission, we went there looking for good fights and learning opportunities. Those fights were had initially and we learned a huge amount from the sniper gangs who initially tore us apart. Everybody was seemingly happy to have is in the area, until our tactics escalated beyond the point where the locals could cope. That's when the complaints started coming in, with us being told we weren't "playing fair". When the wardecs came in we spoke with Gunpoint and were told in no uncertain terms that we should either surrender and change the way we were playing or they would "drive us out of the area".
I don't know of many corps who react well to threats and we certainly didn't react well. The University has always had people trying to bully it into changing the way it operates and so far nobody has succeeded. If the MH locals want to work with us to improve the LSC program for everybody involved, then that's something I'd love to do, but we certainly won't be rolling over because they tell us to.
What a terrible way to start my Sunday. I need bacon, stat. Director of Human Resources EVE University https://twitter.com//DarianReymont http://www.eveuniversity.org |
CraftyCroc
Gunpoint Diplomacy
33
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Posted - 2012.06.17 10:24:00 -
[36] - Quote
Darian Reymont wrote:This is possibly the worst thread related to us that I've ever seen, which is really saying something.
OP, if you're a unista, you're an absolute disgrace and should leave the corp immediately before I find out who you are and kick you.
To everybody else, the misrepresentation of facts going on here is incredible. We didn't go into Molden Heath with the aim to blob the area into submission, we went there looking for good fights and learning opportunities. Those fights were had initially and we learned a huge amount from the sniper gangs who initially tore us apart. Everybody was seemingly happy to have is in the area, until our tactics escalated beyond the point where the locals could cope. That's when the complaints started coming in, with us being told we weren't "playing fair". When the wardecs came in we spoke with Gunpoint and were told in no uncertain terms that we should either surrender and change the way we were playing or they would "drive us out of the area".
I don't know of many corps who react well to threats and we certainly didn't react well. The University has always had people trying to bully it into changing the way it operates and so far nobody has succeeded. If the MH locals want to work with us to improve the LSC program for everybody involved, then that's something I'd love to do, but we certainly won't be rolling over because they tell us to.
What a terrible way to start my Sunday. I need bacon, stat.
You upset the natural order.
You state your aim is to teach pilots pvp- this is incorrect. You teach your pilots nothing except how to follow orders. Great feeding alliance for large nullsec alliances.
To all uni members - the rest of eve laughs at you
(especially these rules - no talking in local and remain docked until ordered otherwise. WHAT FUN!) |
Dasrufken
The Pakk Syndicate
18
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Posted - 2012.06.17 10:28:00 -
[37] - Quote
Wolf Mudchewer wrote:First off all I would just like to state that this post is in now way connected to Eve University or any of its alliesin any wave shape or perform. This is posted by me as an observant on the affair. I am also typing it is real late here and English is not my first language so sorry for understandings in advanced.
Its funny because you keep referring to eve uni as "WE", as you can see bolded, italicised and underlined in the following quotes
Wolf Mudchewer wrote:Eve Universities LSC (low sec camp) recently moved to Heild solar space system in M Heath after a crushing and successful burning of the Hagilur pocket. Basing from Dudreda solar space system we burned down the locals and everything that came to visit through the use of carefully put together fleets and tactics. Management decided to spread out our LSC to the new region and at first all was good as we moved in our fleet and equpment and loaded in the glory of the new surroundings. The once famous pirate haven was ready for LSC clean up. We scored some easy kills in the first day and even forced some of the pirates to abandon the place they wrongly claimed their home.
Wolf Mudchewer wrote:Fast forward a bit and the new unfair wardec systems that ccp has introduced to help the attackers
Oh, I'm sorry you mean the new wardec system that allows the defender to hire AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF ALLIES and lock the attacker into an endless war by making it mutual, yup that so favors the agressor am I right folks?
Wolf Mudchewer wrote: and EVE UNI has encouraged Gunpoint Diplomacy, Black Rebel Rifters Club and LYFTER alliance to start unfair wars on us. This is causing internal chaos at management levels and is a headache and the fighting is starting to spoil the enjoyment of the game for the LSC regulars.
Well boo ******* hoo, isn't that the exact same thing that you have been doing to anyone with -5 or less security status in lowsec? Blobbing some poor unsuspecting battlecruiser with more ECM than the combined forces of the CFC. Spare us your biased whining.
This entire next paragraph just screams out "LOL IM AN ALT OF AN EVE UNI MEMBER AND I'M REALLY MAD THAT YOU DECLARED WAR ON ME SINCE I NO LONGER CAN RUN MY LEVEL 4 MISSIONS".
Wolf Mudchewer wrote:The full force of brutality and THE BLOB as these asshats like to call it. (read advanced tactics for the normal eve citizen). Will be readied for action. If the pirates think they can win a war against a hoard then they are in for a disapointment time NO WARDEC HAS EVER BEEN LOST BY EVE UNIVERSITY. EVERY WARDEC AGAINST THEM HAS RESULTED IN THE CRUSHING OF THE AGGRESSORS. LET THAT BE A WARNING. WE ARE FUELLED BY HATE AN DO NOT TAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST US LIGHTLY. REMEMBER THIS. Unlimited allies will be added to every wardec at zero cost. This is an open invite passed onto me by the management as a trusted 3rd party. If you want to aid the uni against these unfair wardecs and shoot the reason so many players leave eve then now is your chance. Together we can fight them. Join with us and help stop this foul behavour.
Let me just remind you guys that this guy is "in now way connected to Eve University or any of its allies"
I was going to write some witty critique to your reasoning here but its too early for me and I cant think properly. I'll edit this post later today. |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
122
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Posted - 2012.06.17 10:39:00 -
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The plot thickens...
Darian Reymont wrote:OP, if you're a unista, you're an absolute disgrace and should leave the corp immediately before I find out who you are and kick you.
Anger is fear announced. |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
154
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Posted - 2012.06.17 11:02:00 -
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As one of the Alliances that have war dec'd Eve uni, just wanted to point out a few things.
You came down to our place and set up large number gate camps... and expected what exactly? That we would give you the numbers and the gate guns?
Most of the Molden Heath priate groups are flashy red ( as in -10.0) this gave the Uni fleets too much of an advantage, so decs started dropping. As for Capital Punishment, most of us are not flashy, but dont want to burn through what is left of our sec killing Eve uni frigs.
The dec stays til your our of MH. Thanks for livening things up thought :)
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Klown Walk
Fat People Lag IRL
96
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Posted - 2012.06.17 11:16:00 -
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You can-¦t teach people to pvp in a blob, it just doesn-¦t work. I joined one about one month ago, all I did was wait for the 4 tackling ships to get a target and then warp in with the fleet for an easy kill. Learning fleet commands seems pointless in low sec imo and that is easier to learn in a smaller group.
You would be better of splitting into smaller groups with specifice ship setups like long range kiting, that way they learn to pay attention to things like the overview and managing speed/distances. It-¦s the best way to help them deal with the fear of getting their ship destroyed aswell. |
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Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
3
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Posted - 2012.06.17 11:20:00 -
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I have been on your forums and discussed the nature of small gang fights, and suggested that the uni could alter their tactics in order to improve the learning experience, also a side effect would be a gain of respect for the Uni. For the most part I was met with responses of stop qq'ing. Molden Heath would have been perfect in order to learn small gang, small ship pvp, however after the first day, before the war, there were upwards of 20-30 pilots in the system at all times, often in t3 or bcs. As others have said this is not the predominant playstyle of the residents of MH, so there was a reaction in order to even the field. I think that it was quite justified. I'm enjoying the war, unlikely many pirates I can go in high sec and have enjoyed all the fights that I've got in, and hopefully have taught a couple of unis that they really need to learn about pod saver. So let the war carry on, I fight for MILF. |
Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2012.06.17 11:49:00 -
[42] - Quote
Arianne Stone wrote:I have been on your forums and discussed the nature of small gang fights, and suggested that the uni could alter their tactics in order to improve the learning experience, also a side effect would be a gain of respect for the Uni. For the most part I was met with responses of stop qq'ing. I've not read your posts, but it's a shame to hear that.
Arianne Stone wrote:Molden Heath would have been perfect in order to learn small gang,small ship pvp Indeed, it's a pity that such an excellent opportunity has seemingly been lost. Director of Human Resources EVE University https://twitter.com//DarianReymont http://www.eveuniversity.org |
Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
3
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Posted - 2012.06.17 12:07:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote: Indeed, it's a pity that such an excellent opportunity has seemingly been lost.
Touche.
But unfortunately I don't think that there is anyone within the uni at the moment who is pushing for (what I consider) small gang fights. Not that I'm the person to do it, I certainly am not skilled enough to guide myself, let alone anyone else, but the uni will usually only fight if it outnumbers its foes and if you are fighting low skilled pilots then it does become imbalanced. And just strikes me as illogical as I assume that learning is more important then winning? |
Ueberlisk
The Hatchery Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 14:19:00 -
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I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration agains of all the molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future.
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Kaeda Maxwell
Black Rebel Rifter Club
148
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Posted - 2012.06.17 14:41:00 -
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Your blob can only be in one place at a time over 80+% of the UNI is carebears that won't come and fight. Allies won't change that besides that mechanic changes in a couple of weeks. If you desire a 'forever war' you shall have it, new mechanics means we can afford to pay for it ad infinitum.
You could have moved your lowsec camp into any number of system in Molden Heath, you moved it specifically into the local pirates fight club system and into one of their home stations. And then started camping the stations and gates ruining the area for small frigate combat, for which it was previously unrivalled. There was a good thing you kicked in the front door with 40 people and then decided to get all uppity too, ruining said good thing.
If you had moved into Atlar, Istodard, Egbinger or any other of the 'empty' MH systems and not parked 30 man blob camps on gates making our own newbies loose their rifters without ever getting to fire a shot, none of this would have been necessary. We would have been happy come and fight you in various size gangs or come and asked for 1vs1's. We still will but not on the terms you're presenting us with.
Anyway I wrote words on it; here. |
Sister Jov
Team Liquid Holdings Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 14:55:00 -
[46] - Quote
You generally don't "learn to pvp" by sitting 30 guys in griffins and blackbirds on a gate. See, it's basically the same thing as mining when you f1 stuff which can't shoot back.
Congrats. EUNI is teaching its members how to mine. |
Body Shield
The Hatchery Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:01:00 -
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Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! |
Sister Jov
Team Liquid Holdings Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:03:00 -
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Kaeda Maxwell wrote:Anyway I wrote words on it; here. Oddelulf is the Sovereign State of Team Liquid under the rule of King Ueberlisk the Mad and cannot be settled by EUNI. |
Firebolt145
Gunpoint Diplomacy
47
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:08:00 -
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I am 99% sure that the OP is a troll but a lot of the discussion in this thread is actually quite serious. I am not going to remark about past wars or anything about EUni's history. That stuff is not relevant here. I am only going to write about what is going on here and now. Even though I haven't been active in the last couple weeks, I have been observing this entire mess from the sidelines, shaking my head.
Before EUni moved in to Heild, it was a beautiful active PvP area for corps like r1fta and RANSM (and others) where we could randomly go in gangs of anywhere between 1-10 ships. Often we would have engagements such as frigate fights on the frigate plex, sometimes with battlecruisers and occasionally battleships. Fleet numbers were rarely above 10. ECM was rare as we all know what a plague ECM is in smallgang warfare. There were occasional passing/troll blobs, but overall this was true small gang PvP. It was fun and beautiful.
Then EUni moved in. Suddenly Heild's local number shot up to 50 and stayed there. A lot of these guys were newbies and frigate pilots, but a huge chunk of them flew griffins and blackbirds and many also flew battlecruisers and battleships. Any engagement in Heild would immediately be dropped upon by a gang of 30 assorted ships with 5+ blackbirds in tow. Gatecamps of 20+ ships with said blackbirds and griffins became a common occurance. How is any TRUE small gang corp supposed to survive in such an atmosphere? It is impossible. Essentially, EUni's decision to make Heild their new base camp completely ruined the surrounding ecosystem. Keep in mind that this is before the wardecs even started.
At this point the corps decided to dec EUni (keep in mind I was inactive and had no part in this). This was for several reasons. 1) Gateguns. We were already fighting against insurmountable odds and we wanted to remove gateguns from the equation. 2) We want to make it clear to EUni that we did not appreciate their presence and current tactics.
At this point the war seems to have spiralled a little out of control with some diplomats in EUni interpreting it as an act of all-out aggression, that we want to END YOUR ALLIANCE'S EXISTENCE. I have read chat logs where EUni leaders and FC's (not just lowly newbies) have expressed their feelings of complete disgust for our pirate corps because of our little wardec. To this I can only feel amused at how personal people can take this game. A wardec does not always mean that we hate your guts and wish to make you quit the game.
EUni has always prided itself on being able to teach new members how to become respected PvPers and members of a community. I also suspect the real reason you moved down to MH was because you heard it was a hub of smallgang PvP and wanted your newbies to enjoy some of the action. Well, Molden Heath is a very old community house and you have basically banged down the front door and erected a statue of your corp and turned it into a blob v blob area.
If you had approached this move differently, say, only sent a small contingent of 10 newbies with a leader or two, this would have all turned out differently. You would have enjoyed constant small-gang frigate PvP with the r1fta buddies, occasional bigger fights with RANSM, all the while learning how to play the game in a skillful manner. Another approach would have been to allow local talk and set up arrange fights with 10 of you with only 1 blackbird against 5 of us (we don't mind fighting against SOME odds, especially since we generally have much higher SP than you guys). These options would have led to individual pilots in EUni learning what THEY can do in PvP instead of simply being one of a 30 man gang feeling happy because their face is on someone's killmail.
Instead we currently have a situation where the pirate corps of MH and EUni have completely alienated each other. |
X ATM092
The Hatchery Team Liquid
22
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:12:00 -
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Body Shield wrote:Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH! |
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Body Shield
The Hatchery Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:16:00 -
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Firebolt145 wrote:I am 99% sure that the OP is a troll but a lot of the discussion in this thread is actually quite serious. I am not going to remark about past wars or anything about EUni's history. That stuff is not relevant here. I am only going to write about what is going on here and now. Even though I haven't been active in the last couple weeks, I have been observing this entire mess from the sidelines, shaking my head.
Before EUni moved in to Heild, it was a beautiful active PvP area for corps like r1fta and RANSM (and others) where we could randomly go in gangs of anywhere between 1-10 ships. Often we would have engagements such as frigate fights on the frigate plex, sometimes with battlecruisers and occasionally battleships. Fleet numbers were rarely above 10. ECM was rare as we all know what a plague ECM is in smallgang warfare. There were occasional passing/troll blobs, but overall this was true small gang PvP. It was fun and beautiful.
Then EUni moved in. Suddenly Heild's local number shot up to 50 and stayed there. A lot of these guys were newbies and frigate pilots, but a huge chunk of them flew griffins and blackbirds and many also flew battlecruisers and battleships. Any engagement in Heild would immediately be dropped upon by a gang of 30 assorted ships with 5+ blackbirds in tow. Gatecamps of 20+ ships with said blackbirds and griffins became a common occurance. How is any TRUE small gang corp supposed to survive in such an atmosphere? It is impossible. Essentially, EUni's decision to make Heild their new base camp completely ruined the surrounding ecosystem. Keep in mind that this is before the wardecs even started.
At this point the corps decided to dec EUni (keep in mind I was inactive and had no part in this). This was for several reasons. 1) Gateguns. We were already fighting against insurmountable odds and we wanted to remove gateguns from the equation. 2) We want to make it clear to EUni that we did not appreciate their presence and current tactics.
At this point the war seems to have spiralled a little out of control with some diplomats in EUni interpreting it as an act of all-out aggression, that we want to END YOUR ALLIANCE'S EXISTENCE. I have read chat logs where EUni leaders and FC's (not just lowly newbies) have expressed their feelings of complete disgust for our pirate corps because of our little wardec. To this I can only feel amused at how personal people can take this game. A wardec does not always mean that we hate your guts and wish to make you quit the game.
EUni has always prided itself on being able to teach new members how to become respected PvPers and members of a community. I also suspect the real reason you moved down to MH was because you heard it was a hub of smallgang PvP and wanted your newbies to enjoy some of the action. Well, Molden Heath is a very old community house and you have basically banged down the front door and erected a statue of your corp and turned it into a blob v blob area.
If you had approached this move differently, say, only sent a small contingent of 10 newbies with a leader or two, this would have all turned out differently. You would have enjoyed constant small-gang frigate PvP with the r1fta buddies, occasional bigger fights with RANSM, all the while learning how to play the game in a skillful manner. Another approach would have been to allow local talk and set up arrange fights with 10 of you with only 1 blackbird against 5 of us (we don't mind fighting against SOME odds, especially since we generally have much higher SP than you guys). These options would have led to individual pilots in EUni learning what THEY can do in PvP instead of simply being one of a 30 man gang feeling happy because their face is on someone's killmail.
Instead we currently have a situation where the pirate corps of MH and EUni have completely alienated each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_g8NZr1tA
The Forces will be lead by Grand Fleet Master Sard Caid, under direct orders from his majesty King of the South Ueberlisk who rides into glorious battle on a golden Machariel.
From this day, for all days, until the end of time. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
X ATM092 wrote:Body Shield wrote:Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH!! |
Sister Jov
Team Liquid Holdings Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:22:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Body Shield wrote:Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE EAST! |
Orvar Yassa
The Hatchery Team Liquid
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:22:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:X ATM092 wrote:Body Shield wrote:Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH!! THE KING IN THE SOUTH!!! |
I Shari I
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:23:00 -
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Sister Jov wrote:X ATM092 wrote:Body Shield wrote:Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE SOUTH! THE KING IN THE EAST! THE KING IN THE WEST! |
Czar Vlad
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:24:00 -
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Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. my liege |
Kayla B
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:25:00 -
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Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future. THE KING IN THE NORTH! |
Gorski Car
The Hatchery Team Liquid
7
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:26:00 -
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Ueberlisk wrote:I, King of Oddelulf cannot watch silently as these arrogant infidels write bad things about our beloved region and all the cool people living in it. This can only be counted as war declaration against all of molden heath and If war is what E-UNI wants, then war is what E-UNI shall have! no quarter will be given! E-UNI shall feel the wrath of TL carebear division in very near future.
THE KING IN THE NORTH! |
Cyrus Vorkethian
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:26:00 -
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The king! |
MistressErrola
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 15:28:00 -
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LONG LIVE THE KING |
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