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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:25:00 -
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I remember when MWD battleships could outrun frigates because frigates couldn't fit MWD's.
When you could tap the MWD button as you came out of warp and be up at full speed instantly.
Then they nerfed them.
When torpedos would auto-pod the target. When you could drag missiles in front of people and CONCORD would insta-gank the shooter. When missiles couldn't fly round asteroids.
So many changes, 90% of them for the benefit of the game - long may it continue.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:25:00 -
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I remember when MWD battleships could outrun frigates because frigates couldn't fit MWD's.
When you could tap the MWD button as you came out of warp and be up at full speed instantly.
Then they nerfed them.
When torpedos would auto-pod the target. When you could drag missiles in front of people and CONCORD would insta-gank the shooter. When missiles couldn't fly round asteroids.
So many changes, 90% of them for the benefit of the game - long may it continue.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:51:00 -
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well i just started playing a few days ago, and im not happy..
no1 told me before i bought this game that i would have to work hard and train friggin skills, i was under the impression that i would be able to fight and mine with the best of them rite away...
i will be looking for a full refund as this game suxors..
my bloody joystick doesnt even have a use.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:51:00 -
[64]
well i just started playing a few days ago, and im not happy..
no1 told me before i bought this game that i would have to work hard and train friggin skills, i was under the impression that i would be able to fight and mine with the best of them rite away...
i will be looking for a full refund as this game suxors..
my bloody joystick doesnt even have a use.
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Chee
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:00:00 -
[65]
There was, is and will always be whining.. if it annoys you, then dont read it theres your answer Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Chee
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:00:00 -
[66]
There was, is and will always be whining.. if it annoys you, then dont read it theres your answer Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail. |
Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:10:00 -
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The advanced players are technically supposed to have every advantage economically, industrially and logistically.. but only so they can employ newer people. It just isn't set up to deal with the current level of industrial intensity pursued by most casual griefers ingame.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:10:00 -
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The advanced players are technically supposed to have every advantage economically, industrially and logistically.. but only so they can employ newer people. It just isn't set up to deal with the current level of industrial intensity pursued by most casual griefers ingame.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:21:00 -
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The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.11.10 21:21:00 -
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The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.11.10 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
You can catch up to them, just pod'em repeatly till you catch them without a clone. It does happen, doubt anyone else will ever admit to being this stupid but I have no shame so I will.
Was getting hunting by a couple pirates in my former base system (D87?? damned if I remember it was 8 months ago) Anyway they caught me slipping in a asteroid belt and podded me. I was so ****ed for getting caught flat footed I logged off right after my clone woke up 25 jumps away.
Next day I logged on and started the long track back to my base, all the time planning my revenge. Got back to my base, jumped into my spare Battleship and loaded up for bear. I found the guy that podded me a couple systems over camping his usual gate. We got to fighting and 2 of his buddies warped in and together they podded me again.
That's right you guessed it, when I logged back in I forgot that I hadn't bought a new clone the night before. So this time I died without a clone and yea it cost me. I've never made that mistake again, but somewhere there is a newbie that has now caught up to me :-(
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2004.11.10 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
You can catch up to them, just pod'em repeatly till you catch them without a clone. It does happen, doubt anyone else will ever admit to being this stupid but I have no shame so I will.
Was getting hunting by a couple pirates in my former base system (D87?? damned if I remember it was 8 months ago) Anyway they caught me slipping in a asteroid belt and podded me. I was so ****ed for getting caught flat footed I logged off right after my clone woke up 25 jumps away.
Next day I logged on and started the long track back to my base, all the time planning my revenge. Got back to my base, jumped into my spare Battleship and loaded up for bear. I found the guy that podded me a couple systems over camping his usual gate. We got to fighting and 2 of his buddies warped in and together they podded me again.
That's right you guessed it, when I logged back in I forgot that I hadn't bought a new clone the night before. So this time I died without a clone and yea it cost me. I've never made that mistake again, but somewhere there is a newbie that has now caught up to me :-(
2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
Anderi Bourdieu
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lygos The advanced players are technically supposed to have every advantage economically, industrially and logistically.. but only so they can employ newer people. It just isn't set up to deal with the current level of industrial intensity pursued by most casual griefers ingame.
Kind of a 'trickle down effect', eh?
Hanse: So how far back to birth did you go without a clone?
----------------------------------------------- 11/17/04 Are Formal Contracts in yet? Divisional Wallets? Taxes? BP lockdown? |
Anderi Bourdieu
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lygos The advanced players are technically supposed to have every advantage economically, industrially and logistically.. but only so they can employ newer people. It just isn't set up to deal with the current level of industrial intensity pursued by most casual griefers ingame.
Kind of a 'trickle down effect', eh?
Hanse: So how far back to birth did you go without a clone?
----------------------------------------------- 11/17/04 Are Formal Contracts in yet? Divisional Wallets? Taxes? BP lockdown? |
Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
Oh, yes you can. The uber clone costs an absolutely stupid amount of isk, so each podding badly hurts a vet player in the pocket, compared to only 2 mill for a 12 million skillpoint clone.
Additional to that, having level 4 in skills isn't that much different from having level 5 in skills, in terms of actual combat effectiveness, whereas the level 5'er has like five times as much skillpoints invested.
Lastly, you will find that most vets have a broad spread of skills, and when in combat or something, they are obviously not using most of them (eg, Gallente Industrial 5 ain't gonna help you when you're in a Megathron), and thus a more specialized, newer character can quite likely have the advantage over them in functional skillpoints, even though their skillpoint total is a lot less.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath The Problem with eve is really not that old players have an advantage, it's supposed to be that way, but that you cannot really ever catch up to them as long as they keep playing - at least I don't think that people will ever run out of skills to train.
Oh, yes you can. The uber clone costs an absolutely stupid amount of isk, so each podding badly hurts a vet player in the pocket, compared to only 2 mill for a 12 million skillpoint clone.
Additional to that, having level 4 in skills isn't that much different from having level 5 in skills, in terms of actual combat effectiveness, whereas the level 5'er has like five times as much skillpoints invested.
Lastly, you will find that most vets have a broad spread of skills, and when in combat or something, they are obviously not using most of them (eg, Gallente Industrial 5 ain't gonna help you when you're in a Megathron), and thus a more specialized, newer character can quite likely have the advantage over them in functional skillpoints, even though their skillpoint total is a lot less.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:59:00 -
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Well Ok, I never bought an uberclone, but suppose you can afford cloning that high and just keep training stuff people can't really catch up to you...
And Level 5 skills aren't essential on most things, but a lot of new stuff coming out has very high skill requirements...
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.11.11 00:59:00 -
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Well Ok, I never bought an uberclone, but suppose you can afford cloning that high and just keep training stuff people can't really catch up to you...
And Level 5 skills aren't essential on most things, but a lot of new stuff coming out has very high skill requirements...
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:23:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Marcus Davion
Originally by: Stetu
Originally by: Hanse Davion Right now it's Amarr's turn, I would next is going to be Gallante.
The Nerf List:
1) Apoc's Tankability 2) ECM 3) Insert Your Favorite Thing Here.
Just the ones that affected me during my time in Eve:
1) Projectile accuracy. 2) Removing of high end ore from within Empire (oh how I miss mining Gniess in Rorsins over in the Sing Liason Region.) 3) Hybrid and Projectile ammo with no range and cap modifiers. 4) MWDs on Industrials. 5) 0.0 Rats that only used 1 weapon. 6) Chaining spawns where ever there was a spawn!!! 7) etc, etc, etc.
man o man how i rember thoes times i beleve thoes times were the best time i ever had in eve an d sooooo easy to get isk too
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Davion
Originally by: Stetu
Originally by: Hanse Davion Right now it's Amarr's turn, I would next is going to be Gallante.
The Nerf List:
1) Apoc's Tankability 2) ECM 3) Insert Your Favorite Thing Here.
Just the ones that affected me during my time in Eve:
1) Projectile accuracy. 2) Removing of high end ore from within Empire (oh how I miss mining Gniess in Rorsins over in the Sing Liason Region.) 3) Hybrid and Projectile ammo with no range and cap modifiers. 4) MWDs on Industrials. 5) 0.0 Rats that only used 1 weapon. 6) Chaining spawns where ever there was a spawn!!! 7) etc, etc, etc.
man o man how i rember thoes times i beleve thoes times were the best time i ever had in eve an d sooooo easy to get isk too
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: wayz older players SHOULD have an advantage LOL thats the whole point of an mmo, the longer you play the stronger you become.
take that away and everyone would say the game was empty and pointless, I'm all about rewarding older players, I think that you should be a spec of dust for the first few months in any onliner, thats what gives you the drive to carry on, the promise of more and more.
as you grow stronger the game changes with you whioch gives it more lastability. a noob has no power at all but also has no responsibility in the eve world at all, no matter what corp a vet jooins he will imediately be inundated with loads of responsibility because he has the sp to do it.
people who play eve for like 2 years should be elivated to being gods
not many people will play that long, online games have a big customer turnover so rewarding loyalty is a must.
hay they might get strunger but some dosent get richer hehe like me im strung with skills and all etc but im sertenltly not rich i have 1mil isk
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: wayz older players SHOULD have an advantage LOL thats the whole point of an mmo, the longer you play the stronger you become.
take that away and everyone would say the game was empty and pointless, I'm all about rewarding older players, I think that you should be a spec of dust for the first few months in any onliner, thats what gives you the drive to carry on, the promise of more and more.
as you grow stronger the game changes with you whioch gives it more lastability. a noob has no power at all but also has no responsibility in the eve world at all, no matter what corp a vet jooins he will imediately be inundated with loads of responsibility because he has the sp to do it.
people who play eve for like 2 years should be elivated to being gods
not many people will play that long, online games have a big customer turnover so rewarding loyalty is a must.
hay they might get strunger but some dosent get richer hehe like me im strung with skills and all etc but im sertenltly not rich i have 1mil isk
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo well i just started playing a few days ago, and im not happy..
no1 told me before i bought this game that i would have to work hard and train friggin skills, i was under the impression that i would be able to fight and mine with the best of them rite away...
i will be looking for a full refund as this game suxors..
my bloody joystick doesnt even have a use.
.
ya man its not an easy task at all herr ive been playing for a year and 3 months started in augest 6th 2003 and still only got 1mil isk anddoing badly in eve
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.11 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo well i just started playing a few days ago, and im not happy..
no1 told me before i bought this game that i would have to work hard and train friggin skills, i was under the impression that i would be able to fight and mine with the best of them rite away...
i will be looking for a full refund as this game suxors..
my bloody joystick doesnt even have a use.
.
ya man its not an easy task at all herr ive been playing for a year and 3 months started in augest 6th 2003 and still only got 1mil isk anddoing badly in eve
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |
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