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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.01 21:38:00 -
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I've been loving this patch so far, but an issue that I ran into on Sisi and bugreported has managed to slip through the cracks, and now it's rendering the game nearly unplayable for me.
On the fittings screen, a white stripe appears, beginning at the right edge of where the CPU and PG numbers should be, and continues to the left hand side of the screen. When the white stripe appears, my FPS drops from a capped 30 to 4. I enabled the FPS graph and took a screenshot, and you can see the dramatic drop in FPS when I open the Fittings window.
Please see the attached screenshot. You can find my DXDiag dump here.
A quick poll of Eve Radio chat found one other person with the bug. I have already tried updating my graphics drivers, and they are now the latest available for my graphics card.
Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this bug? CCP?
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Synth Elleta
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Posted - 2009.12.01 21:56:00 -
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I have this issue as well.
Found someone else who had the same problem in the game....
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RS Murphy
League of Gentlemen Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.01 22:29:00 -
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Also have that issue, please give us a fix. I want to start really enjoying dominion.
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Jerus Light
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.01 22:48:00 -
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I have this issue on one machine with a Radion X1950 but my laptop with dual geforce 8800m GTX 1 works OK.
Regards,
Jerus
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Valen Gald
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Posted - 2009.12.01 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Valen Gald on 01/12/2009 22:52:06 Yep getting exactly the same issue. A quick look at Phoenix's DXDiag reveals some striking similarities to mine in the graphics area:
--------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Radeon X1800 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x7100) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7100&SUBSYS_0B121002&REV_00 Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz) Monitor: Default Monitor Monitor Max Res: Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6925 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 9/30/2009 02:19:56, 325120 bytes
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WCBirdman
Gallente Xeno Tech Corp MACHI MISCHIEF
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Posted - 2009.12.02 00:05:00 -
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Having the same issues, also everything is laggy as hell
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Milo Caman
Gallente Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 00:19:00 -
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had this exact issue on SiSi about a month ago. Running Radeon X1550 and it seems to have gone away.
Out of Sinq |

Xander XacXorien
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Posted - 2009.12.02 01:23:00 -
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I have the same issue with Radeon X1800.
I have updated my graphics driver 3 times as the GM's stated that the problem had been solved for everyone else.
Still no luck for me, same issue.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Xander XacXorien I have the same issue with Radeon X1800.
I have updated my graphics driver 3 times as the GM's stated that the problem had been solved for everyone else.
Still no luck for me, same issue.
Wait, what? Who's everyone else? I don't know anyone for whom the problem is simply 'solved'.
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WCBirdman
Gallente Xeno Tech Corp MACHI MISCHIEF
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Posted - 2009.12.02 01:47:00 -
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Problem is not solved, doesn't look like it will be solved soon. Didn't find any info, still unplayable. It has nothing to do with drivers, have the latest drivers installed. Keep moaning !!!! boooo horrible patch, everything worked fine till dominion hit my comp.
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Neztruce
Minmatar R-ISK-Y Business
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Posted - 2009.12.02 02:58:00 -
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Got this problem too, already filed a bug report on it.
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Lizaa
Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.02 03:40:00 -
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Ya i have ATI Raedon X1950 Pro and they are telling me that its a driver problem which it cant be if it was working fine befor and on sisi I never had this problem. Lizaa
Director of GriefTactics StudiosÖ |

Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 04:20:00 -
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From the Known Issues Thread:
Quote: ATI Graphics Card: Client freezes when going in and out of warp & white boxes in the fitting screen overlapping the low slot modules. Fix:This seems to be an issue related to ATI cards. This will be fixed in a future patch. Workaround: None
Now we're talking. About time.
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.02 04:26:00 -
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I have an x1950 and the same problem.
Looks like its a X1*** Problem
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Oli Robbo
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.02 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix T'ril From the Known Issues Thread:
Quote: ATI Graphics Card: Client freezes when going in and out of warp & white boxes in the fitting screen overlapping the low slot modules. Fix:This seems to be an issue related to ATI cards. This will be fixed in a future patch. Workaround: None
Now we're talking. About time.
they had better fix this, god knows how long it was like this on the test server for.
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Markus Reese
Caldari Lorentzian Expeditionaries
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Posted - 2009.12.02 04:58:00 -
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THis isn't the only problem that ATI users are having, My 4670 gets these freezes whenever I perform an action, such as go to warp, etc as long as textures are set to high.
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Lizaa
Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.02 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Markus Reese THis isn't the only problem that ATI users are having, My 4670 gets these freezes whenever I perform an action, such as go to warp, etc as long as textures are set to high.
the way around this is set the textures to medium and everything else to high leave bloom off and shadows off. mine no longer becomes a slide show with the textures set to medium. Lizaa
Director of GriefTactics StudiosÖ |

Markus Reese
Caldari Lorentzian Expeditionaries
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Posted - 2009.12.02 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lizaa
Originally by: Markus Reese THis isn't the only problem that ATI users are having, My 4670 gets these freezes whenever I perform an action, such as go to warp, etc as long as textures are set to high.
the way around this is set the textures to medium and everything else to high leave bloom off and shadows off. mine no longer becomes a slide show with the textures set to medium.
Yeah, I set em to medium right away while debugging the cause. Meant to say that it only happens when textures are set to high. Bad phrasing on my part.
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Marius Krolyk
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Posted - 2009.12.02 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: Marius Krolyk on 02/12/2009 07:17:16
Originally by: Phoenix T'ril From the Known Issues Thread:
Quote: ATI Graphics Card: Client freezes when going in and out of warp & white boxes in the fitting screen overlapping the low slot modules. Fix:This seems to be an issue related to ATI cards. This will be fixed in a future patch. Workaround: None
Now we're talking. About time.
Good to know. I have a ATI x1650 Pro and have the white box bug in the fitting panel though luckily I haven't had problems warping.
I submitted a bug report on this WITH a screenshot and got a e-mail back stating that my description of the bug was "unclear" and that I should update my bug report with a better description of the problem. I'd offer to draw them a picture but they apparently didn't know what to do with a screenshot so I think I'll just cut my losses and wait for a patch.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Marius Krolyk
Good to know. I have a ATI x1650 Pro and have the white box bug in the fitting panel though luckily I haven't had problems warping.
I submitted a bug report on this WITH a screenshot and got a e-mail back stating that my description of the bug was "unclear" and that I should update my bug report with a better description of the problem. I'd offer to draw them a picture but they apparently didn't know what to do with a screenshot so I think I'll just cut my losses and wait for a patch.
Good gods. That's incredible. Come on, QA, he literally -did- send you a picture. How more clear can it possibly get?
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Stigi
Caldari The Shadow Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.12.02 08:57:00 -
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http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
The probleme is gone.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Stigi http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
The probleme is gone.
Did you even read my OP? I'm using the latest drivers. Catalyst 9.11. I updated them today, no change from before or after. That screenshot is from after I updated the drivers. I'm really glad that it worked for you, but it's obviously not working for the rest of us.
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CCP Sisyphus

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Posted - 2009.12.02 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Sisyphus on 02/12/2009 09:53:02 Hi there.
Confusing case - I have exactly the same setup - same drivers, OS version, directX, ram etc. I dont get this white stripe.
Are you running fullscreen/windowed, and what settings are you running ingame?
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Carcopino
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Posted - 2009.12.02 09:54:00 -
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I'm experiencing this very same issue since yesterday too.
The fitting screen appears to be loading fine at first, but a white stripe comes up together with the ship and modules, and that kills my fps.
Modules can still be added and removed ( technically, at least ), but the stripe hides the pgrid and cpu readouts.
Ati x1900xt video card here, by the way.
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Carcopino
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Posted - 2009.12.02 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus Edited by: CCP Sisyphus on 02/12/2009 09:53:02 Hi there.
Confusing case - I have exactly the same setup - same drivers, OS version, directX, ram etc. I dont get this white stripe.
Are you running fullscreen/windowed, and what settings are you running ingame?
My system has a different set-up, but I experience this issue regardless of in-game settings ( I've tried switching back to fullscreen, changing the resolution and the various display options. Nothing I've tried appeared to work ).
On a side note, it seems that dragging the fitting window to the bottom of the screen - just enough to make the white stripe go off-screen - will bring the fps back to normal. You can then at least load saved set-ups without fps issues....
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omgdutch2005
Gallente Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.12.02 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: omgdutch2005 on 02/12/2009 10:38:08 you sure the gfx card is not getting a tad hot? gfx card memory is ok aswell?
and pls do also report this problem to the driver team of ATI, so if it is a driver issue they can look into it, the more that report it, the more priority it gets..
had some issue once /w my ati 9600 back in the old days :P, and i contacted ATI driver via website, next patch (read driver release) it was fixed.
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Claude Equel
N0IR.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 10:40:00 -
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Hey everyone,
I have been experiencing this white stripe and lag thing on SISI long before the Dominion Patch yesterday.
I have found out that my graphiccard driver has been outdated. So I applied the newest Catalyst package (9.11, 11/17/2009) and the problem was gone.
SISI worked fine but I found out that since then I had a small colorful dot-frame around my icons on TQ. And I was not able to move my scanner probes in the system map anymore. That problem still remains and I dont know if the reason is the driver update.
Graphiccard: ATI X1950GT
Regards
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Xander XacXorien
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Posted - 2009.12.02 13:40:00 -
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I've check all ATI Windows dll's change all graphic settings to low, medium and high. Windowed and full screen.
The bug still exists and I cant play Eve at all. 3 accounts being paid for which I cannot use.
Bug reported, screen submitted, DxDiag submitted, all drivers at latest release.
There is nothing I can do.
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Matharos
The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:15:00 -
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Same issue here.
Laptop with X1600 ATI card, updated all drivers and issue still persists.
CCP Please fix this soon
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Guru
Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:21:00 -
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same issue here.. please fix :)
"Mind Over Matter: If I don't mind, it don't matter." WWW.EVE-WOOPATANG.COM |

Azaris Rubernis
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:42:00 -
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The same problem here. I have laptop with ATI X 1350 card. I tried to install new drivers, and nothing changed...
Hope that will be fixed soon... Thank you.
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DexterShark
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:56:00 -
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For the record, I had this exact same problem but fixed it myself.
I have Radeon X1950 and had white stripe on fittings screen, laggy / slideshow frame rate when undocking, when entering warp etc etc.
I simply updated my drivers to the latest version (09.11) and all was sorted.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx |

Radanis
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Posted - 2009.12.02 19:38:00 -
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Same problem here. But I've luck, why? I have a notebook with windows vista and a gforce graphic card. But on my xp OS with Ati radeaon X1800 , i have the problem with the white stripe, and more. Since Dominion I have very much lags between warping, docking station.
Okay the planets look better now, but can't be the reason for Lag. I tried different setups.
The really bad thing is the white strip.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar ShadowMoon Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 02/12/2009 19:57:17 This is bizzare... wonder how many people with ATI cards don't have these problems... As far as I can tell, my 4870 doesn't seem to cause these issues, at least. Should I knock on wood, now? (EDIT: someone said they ran into these problems with a 4600-series earlier in the thread) ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. |

Valen Gald
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:00:00 -
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Had a bit more of a chance to check this out. I'm also getting the screen lag when initiating warp / docking, as well as the white rectangle I mentioned at first.
Tried reinstalling the 9.11 drivers again just to be sure as others seemingly had the issue resolved by driver update, though that was the first thing I tried. However the problem is still present.
Cheers.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus Edited by: CCP Sisyphus on 02/12/2009 09:53:02 Hi there.
Confusing case - I have exactly the same setup - same drivers, OS version, directX, ram etc. I dont get this white stripe.
Are you running fullscreen/windowed, and what settings are you running ingame?
Awesome to hear from you, Sisyphus. I'm running the thing in Windowed, with everything on High except Bloom, HDR and Resource Cache, which are off. The problem persists in fullscreen mode and every permutation of the settings that I've tried, however.
I'm running the absolute latest driver package, Nov. 17th's 9.11 Catalyst package, to no avail. I'm sure the update took, because CCC says 9.11, and an issue that I had with Modern Warfare 2's text turning into matrix characters has been corrected, so I know for certain there's updated drivers in there.
Here's a screenshot of my ingame graphics settings.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 20:26:00 -
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Remember seeing something in my logserver files about missing frames? Could be something to do with that?
Out of Sinq |

Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.02 21:54:00 -
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I submitted a bugreport, ID 88050, with a logserver file attached. It covers the time from which I open the fitting window, to the time at which I close the fitting window. I hope that it helps!
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ieatslaves
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Posted - 2009.12.02 22:45:00 -
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I have the same problem here, Gfx card : X1950 pro
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Azaris Rubernis
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Posted - 2009.12.03 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix T'ril
Originally by: CCP Sisyphus Edited by: CCP Sisyphus on 02/12/2009 09:53:02 Hi there.
Confusing case - I have exactly the same setup - same drivers, OS version, directX, ram etc. I dont get this white stripe.
Are you running fullscreen/windowed, and what settings are you running ingame?
Awesome to hear from you, Sisyphus. I'm running the thing in Windowed, with everything on High except Bloom, HDR and Resource Cache, which are off. The problem persists in fullscreen mode and every permutation of the settings that I've tried, however.
I'm running the absolute latest driver package, Nov. 17th's 9.11 Catalyst package, to no avail. I'm sure the update took, because CCC says 9.11, and an issue that I had with Modern Warfare 2's text turning into matrix characters has been corrected, so I know for certain there's updated drivers in there.
Here's a screenshot of my ingame graphics settings.
If this can help, here is a screenshot of my settings: http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/199/20091202213944.jpg
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Azaris Rubernis
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Posted - 2009.12.03 11:12:00 -
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link :)
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Mexbrutor
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Posted - 2009.12.03 12:15:00 -
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My variation to this is that the CPU and Power readout at bottom right on the fitting screen is missing.
This latest patch didnt fix it:
Fitting Screen
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.03 12:24:00 -
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I tried to update catalyst, but i don't know if it worked (my Graphics card doesnt like which model it is and reports itself as another one for drivers). One hour later I'm back to the right drivers and a newer version on Catalyst but still have the stripe.
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Sister Lena
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Posted - 2009.12.03 13:58:00 -
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Same issues as above: white stripe along the bottom of the fitting screen which extends out to the monitors left edge, and lags present on warp.
Readon X1950
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WCBirdman
Gallente Xeno Tech Corp MACHI MISCHIEF
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Posted - 2009.12.03 15:43:00 -
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Just updating the drivers does not fix the issue. Tried to install the full ATI Catalyst Control Centre thinghy and then everything got borked real bad. Finally removed ALL ATI related stuff, then installed the full CCC+drivers 09.11 and voila, white bar is gone. Had no time yet to test if frame drops and freeze up's got fixed as well.
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Azaris Rubernis
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Posted - 2009.12.03 16:14:00 -
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I tried to install the newest CCC and drivers, but it seems that my computer doesn't support that. I have Compaq 6820s laptop and ATI mobility radeon x 1350 card.
Is it possible that this bug will fixed in the future patches? Or if anyone have any idea how to fix the problem?
this is my problem
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Hector Eriaggan
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Posted - 2009.12.03 17:03:00 -
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I just want to point out that the problem has not been solved with the patch of today (Domininon 1.0.1). And I can't update my ATI Mobility Raddeon X1400 drivers, since I have a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop. Every driver I download won't install because it says I have to go to the manufacturer of my computer. But on Dell.com is only a very old driver from 2007. Anyone knows how I could update my drivers anyway ?
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KristeL
Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.03 17:19:00 -
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Bump.
Same problem here, CCP wake up ! ---- One of these days, i will come to cut you into little pieces. |

Erick Odin
Amarr Local-Spike Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.03 17:19:00 -
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Hello - Updating my drivers resolved this issue for me.
I had extreme sluggishness when opening the fitting window, and a white bar across the low slots in fitting window. It happened in space and docked.
I did nothing else, I just updated my drivers and the issue disappeared.
I am running the pci version of the x1300. |

Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar ShadowMoon Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.03 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 03/12/2009 18:02:33
Originally by: Hector Eriaggan I just want to point out that the problem has not been solved with the patch of today (Domininon 1.0.1). And I can't update my ATI Mobility Raddeon X1400 drivers, since I have a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop. Every driver I download won't install because it says I have to go to the manufacturer of my computer. But on Dell.com is only a very old driver from 2007. Anyone knows how I could update my drivers anyway ?
Go to DriverHeaven and look to their Mobility Modder program and instructions- that's the way I did it for my Gen1 XPS laptop and its ancient Mobility Radeon 9800 (which, admittedly, I haven't used for EVE in awhile, and it may not have the Shader tech to handle it anymore). ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems. |

Zifrian
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Posted - 2009.12.03 18:36:00 -
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Raedon X1650 Full Screen
I have an old Dell laptop with integrated video and it doesn't happen on that.
I'm going to try an update video drivers since I have done that in a long time.
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Introspective
Schrodinger's Renegades Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.12.03 18:43:00 -
[52]
Same problem here, have updated to latest drivers - still the same issue.
Radeon x1800 Windowed
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.03 20:49:00 -
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22 of us in this thread have this issue. Four of us have updated drivers and found it helped. I did a complete uninstall of ATI products in the system, using their uninstaller, running a registry clean, deleting the directories on the hard drive, everything. And still, the cat came back the very next day.
Needless to say, still got it as of Dominion 1.0.1, but that was expected, there's nothing in the patch notes about a fix for this. All we can do now is cross our fingers and hope for the best! I know you can do it, CCP.
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Revenant Penance
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Posted - 2009.12.03 22:09:00 -
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Same problem here. Extremely frustrating...
Updating to latest drivers did not help.
Athlon 2 x2 245 Radeon x1800 XL
Cheers
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Deckard B26354
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Posted - 2009.12.04 00:28:00 -
[55]
Same problem here with Radeon X1950 Pro. Upgrade to Cat 9.11 drivers solved it.
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Souhegan
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Posted - 2009.12.04 03:43:00 -
[56]
Same problem here with an 1800XT. Updated drivers to 9.11 and still bugged. Uninstall and reinstalled drivers but not as fortunate as others. :(
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Carcopino
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:08:00 -
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I was experiencing this issue too, at first.
I've tried a few of the driver sets I had, and found that version 9.3 did the trick for me ( or so it would appear for now, hehe ). Ati Radeon x1900xt here by the way.
I hope you guys find a solution to this issue as well !.
Cheers.
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Xander XacXorien
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:08:00 -
[58]
The GM's asked me to remove the drivers, run a 3rd party tool to try and clear down any previous detritus from the previous driver and reinstall the drivers again.
Rather than run the 3rd party tool I opted to reinstall windows XP, upgraded to SP3 and then install the drivers without any previous install (All on a new partition).
The problem still exists,,,,
To the previous post, my ATI support directory shows I had 9.3 installed prior to 9.11 so no luck there for me either. (I still have the driver set there in the old partition.
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Kriou
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:46:00 -
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Same thing.
Ive tried reinstalls, defrags, resetting graphics settings. Nothing seems to fix this box at the moment. I reinstalled graphics drivers to, and it is still there.
Seems to be a problem with the x1k series of card then, I have a X1800XT, so I guess we will be waiting a while for a fix :/ Annoying as hell though, so difficult and near impossible to fit my ship.
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H3ndrix
Amarr freelancers inc F A I L
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:08:00 -
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had same problem aswell as bugged portraits, (Ati HD 4670 with 9.11 drivers) rolling back to 9.9 drivers sorted this problem for me, no problems since
I used to have a Sig but CCP Nerfed it !!!! It wasn't Nerfed, it was moderationally enhanced. -Darth Patches |

Carcopino
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:48:00 -
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I'm not sure it's a good idea to install the latest Ati drivers on old cards - such as X1800 and X1900 series -, because those are legacy products now.
According to Ati, the most update version for our cards should be 9.3. That one worked for me. Also, this advice might not be necessary, but try and follow the uninstall-reinstall instructions on the Ati website, if you haven't already.
Cheers and good luck !.
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Introspective
Schrodinger's Renegades Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:52:00 -
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Tried 9.3 and 9.11 drivers, following ATI instructions to the letter and using a driver cleaner to remove old leftover stuff.
Still the same problem :(
No fix until next week at least I guess...
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The Mach
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:03:00 -
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I used to own an x1900, well now im with nvidia till ATI can straighten out their drivers. Its pathetic how bad their drivers are and I'm surprised the error isn't a BSOD or worse.
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Matharos
The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:55:00 -
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Still experiencing the issue. I have tried multiple drivers versions with no effect. I think it is more then a simple driver issue.
Bump
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Valen Gald
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.04 19:44:00 -
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Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser...
This is a strange one. Spent several more hours puzzling over this and trying different driver versions as some are reporting that a particular version has solved the issue, but unfortunately I haven't been able to replicate their success.
I have tried Catalysts: 7.9 (yeah, I know) 8.10 9.3 9.8 9.11
Also it may be worth mentioning that three and a half years ago or so I bought and built two identical PCs; identical except for the graphics cards. My main has an x1800XT with 512GB and the other was an x1800XL with 256GB. As I expected both of these cards exhibit the problem we are talking about, but this does at least prove (unless I am spectacularly unlucky) that this is not some latent problem with individual cards, as others with apparently the same cards are not having problems or are resolving theirs with driver changes. I had kinda hoped that the XL would be okay but wasn't surprised when it was exactly the same as the XT.
I'm now back where I started running Catalyst 9.11.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I see it like this:
Until Dominion I had no significant issues with EVE or any other game, and certainly no white rectangles and FPS plummet anywhere.
The white rectangle and FPS plummet seems to be isolated to the Fitting screen, though there are frame lag issues reported by others without the white rectangle, so it's probably be safe to assume that these are separate problems or at least not directly related.
From the two facts above I assume the issue to be caused by Fitting screen code changes introduced with Dominion
There is no significant change to the Fitting screen for Dominion, at least not that I can see.
If my assumptions above are correct, would it not be possible for CCP to determine what in the updated code is causing this issue, and find a code work-around that will not adversely impact Dominion?
I recognise that the root of the problem may be something flaky on ATI side, whether hardware or drivers or a comination of the two. However the facts that everything was fine before Dominion, the problem seems isolated to the Fitting screen, and that the Fitting screen has not visibly changed much, suggest to me that a Fitting screen code work-around - or some kind of full or partial Fitting screen code regression - would be the best way to sort this out.
Cheers.
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Hector Eriaggan
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Posted - 2009.12.04 20:39:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 03/12/2009 18:02:33
Originally by: Hector Eriaggan I just want to point out that the problem has not been solved with the patch of today (Domininon 1.0.1). And I can't update my ATI Mobility Raddeon X1400 drivers, since I have a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop. Every driver I download won't install because it says I have to go to the manufacturer of my computer. But on Dell.com is only a very old driver from 2007. Anyone knows how I could update my drivers anyway ?
Go to DriverHeaven and look to their Mobility Modder program and instructions- that's the way I did it for my Gen1 XPS laptop and its ancient Mobility Radeon 9800 (which, admittedly, I haven't used for EVE in awhile, and it may not have the Shader tech to handle it anymore).
Thanks for the tip, I managed to use that program to install ATI Catalyst 9.3 (latest availbale for my old card), and the problem was solved.
I just installed that driver upon the existing one, didn't have to uninstall anything. And I didn't either installed the CCC program, only the driver itself...
Hope it is definitely solved (and will also work with my other games, didn't have the time to test everything yet)
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Carcopino
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Posted - 2009.12.04 21:45:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Valen Gald Edited by: Valen Gald on 04/12/2009 19:49:13 Edited by: Valen Gald on 04/12/2009 19:46:17 Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser...
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I see it like this:
Until Dominion I had no significant issues with EVE nor any other game, and certainly no white rectangles and FPS plummet anywhere.
The white rectangle and FPS plummet seems to be isolated to the Fitting screen, though there are frame lag issues reported by others without the white rectangle, so it's probably be safe to assume that these are separate problems or at least not directly related.
From the two facts above I assume the issue to be caused by Fitting screen code changes introduced with Dominion
There is no significant change to the Fitting screen for Dominion, at least not that I can see.
The white stripe at the fitting screen and the subsequent fps drop are definitely due to the same issue. Drag your fitting screen to the bottom, until you can no longer see the white stripe, and you'll notice the fps revert back to normal. Maybe there is some kind of bug where the card is failing to draw the bottom section of the fitting screen itself .. just an idea.
As for the other issue with framerate you mentioned, I had that too, but that was dealt with quickly by bringing the eye candy down a notch. Unfortunately I do not really remember what the settings were prior to Dominion release, so I can't be sure whether the patch maxed them out on its own as default setting, or if the software is more of a resource hog now and is not as smooth with the same settings. More likely than not, it's the former, though.
Cheers.
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Xander XacXorien
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Posted - 2009.12.04 21:53:00 -
[68]
Ok I'll start with what I hope is some good news.
My bug report is no longer open and says "Fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2", so I hope and pray (sacrifice given on request) that this issue will be fixed in the next Eve release.
I've updated my petition to the GM's to ask them to confirm this is the case as I have no extra text in the bug filing - I'll post any updates here if I get one, unless some kind soul from CCP is willing to stick there oar in here directly.
To clarify I've tried 9.3, 9.3.1, 9.8 and 9.11 - I've also had a look at the hotfixes for 9.11 but they are for HDxxxx cards.
Hope this is good news.
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Kriou
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Posted - 2009.12.04 22:17:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Xander XacXorien Ok I'll start with what I hope is some good news.
My bug report is no longer open and says "Fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2", so I hope and pray (sacrifice given on request) that this issue will be fixed in the next Eve release.
I've updated my petition to the GM's to ask them to confirm this is the case as I have no extra text in the bug filing - I'll post any updates here if I get one, unless some kind soul from CCP is willing to stick there oar in here directly.
To clarify I've tried 9.3, 9.3.1, 9.8 and 9.11 - I've also had a look at the hotfixes for 9.11 but they are for HDxxxx cards.
Hope this is good news.
I love you. I just want to add drones to my Tristan :)
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.04 22:20:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Xander XacXorien Ok I'll start with what I hope is some good news.
My bug report is no longer open and says "Fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2", so I hope and pray (sacrifice given on request) that this issue will be fixed in the next Eve release.
I've updated my petition to the GM's to ask them to confirm this is the case as I have no extra text in the bug filing - I'll post any updates here if I get one, unless some kind soul from CCP is willing to stick there oar in here directly.
To clarify I've tried 9.3, 9.3.1, 9.8 and 9.11 - I've also had a look at the hotfixes for 9.11 but they are for HDxxxx cards.
Hope this is good news.
QFT, my bug report is also listed as 'fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2'. Fingers crossed, folks!
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Kriou
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Posted - 2009.12.04 22:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Phoenix T'ril
Originally by: Xander XacXorien Ok I'll start with what I hope is some good news.
My bug report is no longer open and says "Fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2", so I hope and pray (sacrifice given on request) that this issue will be fixed in the next Eve release.
I've updated my petition to the GM's to ask them to confirm this is the case as I have no extra text in the bug filing - I'll post any updates here if I get one, unless some kind soul from CCP is willing to stick there oar in here directly.
To clarify I've tried 9.3, 9.3.1, 9.8 and 9.11 - I've also had a look at the hotfixes for 9.11 but they are for HDxxxx cards.
Hope this is good news.
QFT, my bug report is also listed as 'fixed in Rubicon 1.0.2'. Fingers crossed, folks!
That being said, mine still says filtered :(:(:( Well I did screw up the first report, before I knew there was a guide for bug reporting, guess they decided to leave mine in the bin xD
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Matharos
The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:52:00 -
[72]
Just confirming that on sisi I don't have the white bar
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Kamelia Tazana
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Posted - 2009.12.05 01:45:00 -
[73]
For the time being I've found that if I just put the white bar off the screen it helps. I'd recommend if reinstalling the drivers didn't work for you just move the bottom of the fitting screen with the white bar down until it is no longer on your monitor. You'll get some fps back and the fitting screen is somewhat useable again.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.05 02:06:00 -
[74]
In the most recent SiSi build (118927), the white bar is gone.    Of course, the character sheet isn't functional either, but what's functional on the test server anyway. ;P
Look for this to be fixed in 1.0.2, for now, do as the above poster says, just slide the fitting window down to hide the lows, it'll be a pain, but it looks like it's fixed in the upcoming 1.0.2.
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Minious
Minmatar Akarian Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.06 00:50:00 -
[75]
Daily Bump
I tried moving the white strip off the screen like Kamelia said, it is usable but you get no access to the low slots. I tried everything on this and other threads with no result. ATI X1800 with 9.11 drivers here.
M.
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Phoenix T'ril
Gallente Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.06 02:50:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Minious Daily Bump
I tried moving the white strip off the screen like Kamelia said, it is usable but you get no access to the low slots. I tried everything on this and other threads with no result. ATI X1800 with 9.11 drivers here. M.
The whole idea with sliding the fitting window partially offscreen is to give you the chance to fit the rest of the ship without it slowing your system to a crawl. If you'd like some catharsis, try going on Sisi and see if the problem's fixed for you in the Sisi build.
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Radanis
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:58:00 -
[77]
Unplayable if you need to change Low Slots... that's my opinion. Yeah I have luck and a second computer with a gforce. The ship equipment window is one of the most important thing in eve.
But I want to play with both computers. I hope a solution is near.
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RS Murphy
League of Gentlemen Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.06 21:42:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Phoenix T'ril In the most recent SiSi build (118927), the white bar is gone.    Of course, the character sheet isn't functional either, but what's functional on the test server anyway. ;P
Tbh fitting screen is better than character sheet not working. CCP if I can't update skills, I probably won't be playing eve anymore.
Otherwise please fix meh game.   
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Alice Celadon
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:35:00 -
[79]
bump for same issue. have to fit on my friend's mac...very annoying.
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:25:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Noun Verber on 08/12/2009 01:25:38 Tonight!
Originally by: Patch notes Graphics
* White boxes on the fitting screen when using a specific ATI graphics cards have been removed.
source
Thanks CCP!
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Flashmopp
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:37:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Noun Verber Edited by: Noun Verber on 08/12/2009 01:25:38 Tonight!
Originally by: Patch notes Graphics
* White boxes on the fitting screen when using a specific ATI graphics cards have been removed.
source
Thanks CCP!
You thank before you even tried?
After the patch a friend here with ATI card has still the same white bar :)
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:19:00 -
[82]
mines fixed (x1950)
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RS Murphy
League of Gentlemen Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.08 15:30:00 -
[83]
Fixed today. Thank god and ccp
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Valen Gald
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.08 18:25:00 -
[84]
Fixed :D
Thanks CCP and all those who took the time to report the issue.
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Azaris Rubernis
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Posted - 2009.12.10 18:50:00 -
[85]
thanks CCP 
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