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Omeega
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sith8 When Masta Killa is doin your dmg control you got real problems.
Good read.
Sup Omee
Hi Sith, hello Seph,
Don't mind Masta Killa, his activity has been so low he didn't even realized I've been in every EU op for the last 3 months.
Nevertheless, good chunk of information/intel in this thread, although I'm sure some of it has been posted out of its original context.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Cindy McCain
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: skulled
Goons probably know if PL fall in Fountain then IT will be headed to Delve next with Stainwagon still pushing on the other front.
The time for a need of hand-holding PL is over, we cut the umbilical already and got over it
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Gobbins
Minmatar eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: David Khan No really, I agree with a lot of the points you made in this thread. These are the things I remember mentioning:
PL is full of FOTM ***gots who will hopefully leave within the next few weeks since they're not on the "own everything" side anymore (and realistically haven't been for a while). PL isn't the same alliance it was when I joined. PL would do well to lose Fountain and go back to its older roots, pre-BRUCE, of a non-space holding, nomadic alliance that cared more about griefing other people than winning every engagement, K:D ratios and how good we look on spaceship forums. PL fostered an atmosphere since, and probably during, Delve where more value was placed on internal hubris and overconfidence in skill by people who don't actually log in, and less value was placed on the people who actively lead and join fleets and do well in them.
Furthermore, I think ****ing off the NC was one of the best things we've done recently as an alliance. It was certainly some of the most fun I've had lately and I think it proved to some extent that the "old PL" was still there somewhere. We can still grief (to the point of being :mad:) larger alliances and do well against them without using any members of the "lolaition".
Also, temporary NAPs and agreements that inactive directors make/made are ****ing awful and something I've always been completely against, regardless of any perceived need for them.
Good post, I wish you the best of luck if it is honest. My only comment would be about this part:
Originally by: David Khan PL fostered an atmosphere since, and probably during, Delve where more value was placed on internal hubris and overconfidence in skill by people who don't actually log in, and less value was placed on the people who actively lead and join fleets and do well in them.
of which you have been a pretty big accomplice yourself, during your many gratuitious trolling spree :)
- Gob
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Gobbins
Minmatar eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:43:00 -
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also balls I forgot to snipe page 10 :( cippalippus will never talk to me again
- Gob
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Goose Hypocrisy
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 08:48:00 -
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Damnit I wanted to snipe that  -clp sig updated yo
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Hilder
Amarr Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.04 09:15:00 -
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This thread confirms something ive thought for a while, when it comes to alliance leadership, **** always rises to the top. Makes me glad that I'm only a casual player
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Mendolorian Girl
Caldari Conflagration. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:05:00 -
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Heh, Fountain.. where Alliance's go to die. Even Cry Havoc appear to have abandoned you :)
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Dinique
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:19:00 -
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Hey Gobby :V
Your dramatitis is flaring up again :(
But I still love you.
_____ The species has amused itself to death
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Hannah Ganktannah
Caldari Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:33:00 -
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So, PL really like the word ***got and *** and ***gy and ***s and ***gots and ***ies, and any other way of saying the word ***
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 04/12/2009 10:43:27
Originally by: Hannah Ganktannah So, PL really like the word ***got and *** and ***gy and ***s and ***gots and ***ies, and any other way of saying the word ***
I guess a part if being an elite PvPer is that you have to talk like a nine year old.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting |
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Lady Puket
Caldari Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:42:00 -
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if anyone in PL is bailing out before the failcascade can i have ur stuff?
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cho0li0
Gallente Universal Exports Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:44:00 -
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Oh the holy drama in this thread 
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Shadoo
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops I guess a part if being an elite PvPer is that you have to talk like a nine year old.
Finally you offer a good explanation to your years of posting .
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Niraco79
Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:59:00 -
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we all know you wanted to defect to IT with your mimir!
PS Hi gobby! _________________________ Noobie of the Year Award! |

Young Dorothy
Caldari FoFoFo Monkeys 6oonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:06:00 -
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so it seems that guy named Shadoo whoever he is, have some influences and because of his decision, pandemic something is failing
great i hope they wont kick him before he kill entire alliance cause they deserved it (and deserved shado0)
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Originally by: Shadoo I have no problem setting blues.
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Faekurias
Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 04/12/2009 11:10:16 ITT PL is BOB, Shadoo is SirMolle, and I am gay.
Recruiting |

Young Dorothy
Caldari FoFoFo Monkeys 6oonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition
After Delve War II, most PL wanted to PvP without having a huge nap list, however shadoo wanted a NAP list with NC being 'Neutrals with benefits', this ****ed off alot of people and caused them to either quit or be inactive,..
So you saying that this guy Shado is just a coward to scared to fight with NC yes? --
Originally by: Shadoo I have no problem setting blues.
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Altair Mogwa
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:16:00 -
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Read all the op, tasty. Glad you burned bridged with all but goons. Seems PL bark was mighty then the bite.
If i had pockets stuffed full with moongold like the pl 'top men' do I would me MIA as well. Burning isk to fight a losing war as moons fall only ends in a protracted loss that end in both lost space and an empty bank account. Cut now and take the bank with you. -- Everyone poops. |

Mars Amar
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:21:00 -
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errmmmm......I thought everybody knew that PL are a bunch of C u next tuesdays.
Nevermind get ur fancy prize winning ships and join RvB instead. Alot more fun and probably more active!!
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Kappas.
Gallente Galaxy Punks Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Puket if anyone in PL is bailing out before the failcascade can i have ur stuff?
I hear they're blowing each other up on the off chance some of them join IT. __________________
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Moon Kitten
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:28:00 -
[291]
PL are you ready to cut the umbilical cord yet? |

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:31:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Metal Dude What? A fake reset from the "Supperpower" of EVE? NEVER!!!
What? BobITs attacking strong and stable alliances? NEVER!!! Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Zymurgist |

Conman
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: David Khan No really, I agree with a lot of the points you made in this thread. These are the things I remember mentioning:
PL is full of FOTM ***gots who will hopefully leave within the next few weeks since they're not on the "own everything" side anymore (and realistically haven't been for a while). PL isn't the same alliance it was when I joined. PL would do well to lose Fountain and go back to its older roots, pre-BRUCE, of a non-space holding, nomadic alliance that cared more about griefing other people than winning every engagement, K:D ratios and how good we look on spaceship forums. PL fostered an atmosphere since, and probably during, Delve where more value was placed on internal hubris and overconfidence in skill by people who don't actually log in, and less value was placed on the people who actively lead and join fleets and do well in them.
Furthermore, I think ****ing off the NC was one of the best things we've done recently as an alliance. It was certainly some of the most fun I've had lately and I think it proved to some extent that the "old PL" was still there somewhere. We can still grief (to the point of being :mad:) larger alliances and do well against them without using any members of the "lolaition".
Also, temporary NAPs and agreements that inactive directors make/made are ****ing awful and something I've always been completely against, regardless of any perceived need for them.
I like to wear pants on my head. "In a perfect world we would all be dead"
Official Tri Diplomat
"All Diplomacy Has Failed" |

Conman
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Snot Shot So now that its pretty clear that the majority of eve would not **** on PL now that they are on fire, who will they force to help bail them out?
That's a good question.
It seems good timing that IT attack Fountain, Tri+friends attack the north and Stainwagon attack Goons/ZAF in Period Basis, all the while creating adversity between PL, SOT, NC and Goons at every available opportunity.
Maybe a coincidence, or maybe it's divide and conquer.
Goons probably know if PL fall in Fountain then IT will be headed to Delve next with Stainwagon still pushing on the other front.
I can confirm that this was and always has been the plan since eve started back in 2003.
"In a perfect world we would all be dead"
Official Tri Diplomat
"All Diplomacy Has Failed" |

Young Dorothy
Caldari FoFoFo Monkeys 6oonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Originally by: General Windypops Er, why do you think most of us have been laughing at PL for the last 6 months or so? Finding out that you guys are crippled by paranoia and infighting, and that you've become fat and lazy is hardly a surprise to the rest of Eve.
You lost your mystery and kudos the day you starting behaving like every other napfest alliance.
Sir you better take that back or we'll nap all your enemies and invade your region.
you already did that --
Originally by: Shadoo I have no problem setting blues.
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Ty'derian
Minmatar PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.04 11:53:00 -
[296]
Originally by: BlackHorizon ;X
unacceptable!
btw. do you still claim you are a girl? :>
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Shadoo
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Young Dorothy
Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Originally by: General Windypops Er, why do you think most of us have been laughing at PL for the last 6 months or so? Finding out that you guys are crippled by paranoia and infighting, and that you've become fat and lazy is hardly a surprise to the rest of Eve.
You lost your mystery and kudos the day you starting behaving like every other napfest alliance.
Sir you better take that back or we'll nap all your enemies and invade your region.
you already did that
Nah, that was all me. They reversed my strategy of napping everyone straight after Gobbins smoked me out of EVE!
The swines are paying for it now!
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Venetian Tar
Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:09:00 -
[298]
This here is a threadnaught. |

Dinique
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:10:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Ty'derian
Originally by: BlackHorizon ;X
unacceptable!
btw. do you still claim you are a girl? :>
but he is a girl! |

Mr Rive
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:11:00 -
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Using shadoo as a scapegoat for 'everything that went wrong' with PL is rather hilarious seen as hes been a top level director/FC since the alliance began.
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