Originally by: ISD

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49-U6U, Querious - Following months of fighting, Delve War II (as it was known) has come to an end. SirMolle ordered a KenZoku retreat on the 16th June, abandoning its remaining systems and control towers in Delve and Querious and withdrawing, leaving the wealthy territories to GoonSwarm.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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I realize it's getting boring and we have a lot of ****ing ***gots at the moment being ****ing gay ***gots with a raging appetite for ****.

So I'll make it short and sweet.

Shamis and I were asked if we could hold off on killing NC/GF/etc cap fleets in South while they put the heat on ATLAS.

Since Bobby is a huge ****ing raging homosexual ***** who does nothing but go on about how great they are every day -- we do not really have objection to this, and I hope neither do you. Also, lol cap fleet replacement atm.

Hence, we're going to let the cap fleets from the NC/GF/RA coalition pummel ATLAS' **** in for the next few weeks and stalk them in hopes of actually getting revenge for our last cap engagement -- and running like pussies ever since.

td;lr -- only shoot red cap fleets. Let the little fish swim for now.

And yes. NC is deploying to Curse. You can shoot them all you want - but our arrangement we've agreed on is the Venal era one. Pew-pew, no cap hotdrops for now.

Shamis is going to evaluate the situation again in 2 weeks time.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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:colbert:
Jabber crew

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Originally by: Viper ****zIe

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This is ****ing ******ed, we're not blue with these idiots anymore yet you keep talking to them like we are.

"Hey we're going to hotdrop in Omam with CH hope to see you there"
"Hey you're gonna deploy caps in the south okay we don't mind have fun"

What happened to the PL that didn't give a **** and would drop anyone? What happened to the PL that didn't bother with this level of ****** agreement that was killing NC capitals 30 minutes before the first m-o fight started and Shrike died the second time? This "ok PL will stay out of your way since for some reason we feel the need to give you significant leeway while we held your hands for the last seven months" bull**** is stupid as ****, as well as anyone who subscribes to it. Why don't we just go back to blue and cut the bull****, we probably were able to kill them more in Delve when we actually had positive standings than right now.

Edit: Furthermore didn't we unblue everyone because we wanted more targets and to get rid of these bull**** WWIIesque defence agreements? Dictating when we can shoot certain NEUTRAL parties is ****ing ******ed. They were our friends for a while, so what? If we can shoot their ~~internet battleships~~ we can shoot their ~~internet dreads and titans~~ and it really shouldn't make a difference. The time for a need of hand-holding the NC and Goons is over, cut the umbilical already and get over it, whatever comes from it will come and it sure as **** will be less of a ******ed cluster**** than this.

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Originally by: xxangelxx

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hey its ok bro we have 2 factions in PL, one being the 'Jabber crew' who are those allowed to remain on jabber with NC, and the rest of us, who will take what targets we have v0v

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Originally by: Lenid Kalkin

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I prefer to think of myself as part of the group that hates Atlas but is too lazy to actually siege pos so better if NC/goons do it and we show up for some fun when Atlas shows it's head (if ever).

Either way this was a back room deal between shamis/shadoo and them. I know nothing.

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Originally by: Tobruk

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what about individual caps - a lone carrier or fail dread?

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Originally by: Narciss Sevar

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When did this become a democracy?

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Originally by: Shadoo

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If you have a problem following it -- I have no problem setting blues.

The agreement is exactly that which it was in Venal.

edit: Each FC decides what they do with their gang and who they engage. Nothing has changed in PL with that. If the killboard doesn't please you, there's only one way to change it.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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So jabber crew gimmick aside, for myself the game really changed once bob died. Before that I understood full well why the coalition was needed but now arent we making the game worse by following this policy?

There will always be a group that is opposed to goons/NC, now it is Atlas - which is smaller than bob. Then after atlas get blobbed to **** long enough it will be somebody else, maybe Tri or AAA - there will always be someone to "hate". Isn't this the very reason bob had to be eliminated? because they were making the game ******edly boring by sucking all the endgame pvpers to their side and forcing everyone to play powerblocks online?

Furthermore, how does this neutral-but-friend policy really benefit us or goons?

For us: it takes alot of pressure off PL, because we know the strongest guys in the game right now (NC and goons) will not come **** our cattle/moons. But is this really good? Arent we following the same steps as MC hiding under bob's skirt until they decided to raise their head just to find out they forgot how to deal with a real meatgrinder? What about our recent fleet performances shadoo inst that an indicator that we are doing something wrong?

For goons and NC: they are already beating atlas and friends, why do they want it to be even easier? Not like PL would stop them anyways but what after another of their enemy is gone?? What will happen to goons once atlas is eradicated you tell me that.

I understand I ignore alot of the larger picture and background of politics but from my perspective it seems we are shooting ourselves in the foot by trying to play it safe. Kenny is dead lets not repeat their mistakes.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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so basically the only legitimate way were gonna get a cap fight is to bait atlas into a trap? find me locations of poses that atlas wouldnt like to lose heh

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Originally by: Shadoo

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Our fleet performances have not changed from when I started in PL Gobbins 2+ years ago, neither has our approach to this game or how we make decisions.

Stop fooling yourself if you ever though you were any good. Only thing that has changed in EVE is that the opposition has gotten better. Do not mistake the two, which is the real mistake BoB made.

What really HAS changed in this alliance is the constant *****ing, whining and second guessing that goes on, this thread being a good example.

Let me put this straight. You didn't join a democracy. You don't like it -- you can go find something else.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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yeah the only *****ing and whining used to come from me :colbert:

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Originally by: Shadoo

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(quoting my post) You basically ignore everything what is going on in EVE, like you always do, and rabble on about your own views which you think are crystalized truth.

Then if anyone would actually do a serious reply to you -- you'd ignore it, or not even hear it, and continue on rabbling.

At least Viper does it in either trolling way, or getting ready to steal all dreads and move on to CH way -- both of which intrique the reader.

You unfortunatelly just rabble on and on... The gimmick is getting old.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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why do you get so butthurt everytime I state my opinion on the leadership's decision?

I dont think my views are crystalized truth or that you must listen to them, however we have a forums so I will post them. You dont even have to reply.

And you are 100% contradicting yourself when you say our fleet performances haven't degraded. I for one believe people aren't trying half as hard as when I joined 8 months ago. I am not even talking pvp skills I am talking about plain lazyness and commitment, which translates into trouble getting people on test server, people not aligning, people warping to wrong persons ecc... and other such mistakes typical of when someone hasnt got a (spaceship) cause. And yes I do believe the current climate of "wer smug we rule eve with our not-really-neutral buddies" contributes to this complacence.

About your bob comment: I was on the receiving end of bob **** in 2005-2006 and they used to make very good small roaming gangs. Then they completely and I mean utterly forgot how to fly smthing smaller than a battleship. So your assessment that only their opposition got better is infactual.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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It's the way you state it Gobbins, it comes across like a butthurt whine. And it annoys the **** out of me. But ok, I'll give you a proper answer to your political view.

Politically this is currently the situation:

ATLAS/Scorched/INIT/etc coalition is breaching, SCE is pretty much done with. This is just due to GF/RA/XIX. We held our end of the bargain to XIX by showing up and killing everyone.

ATLAS/A/Stainwagon coalition shows signs of stress with Bobby's carryon. A still cares about ATLAS, but Stainwagon apart from c0ven does not appear to.

TRI is focusing on KIA. They have a TN25 initiative this weekend where they try to lock KIA into station and kill some towers. But since Goons jumpcloned home -- they had to s0s -A- and ATLAS to help them (http://www.pandemic-legion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19384).

-A- did not flinch to go 60 jumps to kill a tower in Delve for TRI. The motivation seems to be for the coalition to use TRI to spearhead the new attack on Delve/Querious.

RKK is setting standings to all of Stainblock currently. They'll probably base from Stain and start going to PB to hit KIA/ZAF. DICE has ATLAS block standings, but their alt/friend alliance Quarentine Zone is basically having trouble now and ATLAS is trying very hard to find excuses not to care.

BNC/FINFL are busy elsewhere, but BNC is discussing new deployment. I have no insight into FINFL currently, but I think they're roaming around the place.

NC is kinda in a limbo atm - RZR's attack to drones was a failure. They pulled out and are now going to deploy to Curse and focus on some parts of the region. RAWR is not going to do anything right away -- but they will monitor the TRI-block very carefully. TCF is MIA and MH is mainly planning on attacking PL assets in CR.

There's a lot going on in EVE and no matter how much you try to cover your ears and go LAAALAAALAAA and run bomber ops -- some of us are still plugged in on the larger scale and see what's going on and have the intel coming in on what others are discussing.

Now. We can bury our heads in the sand like TRI mk1 and just be ***gots. Or we can be ***gots, while still plugged into the larger picture.

So far, we're doing the latter thou obviously some of you seem to want the former. But as noted before, this isn't a democracy. But given the level of whine, we'll probably move again soon. Or if MH go through with their current discussions and we'll end up in CR doing POS war.

Stop being such ****ing emo-****s. If you're still with us, it obviously means we've done something right over the years -- so why try to change how we do things.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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You haven't been with PL long enough to know what you describe is EXACTLY what we've been doing for the last 2 years.

People never have gotten on test server unless Shamis really beats them for few times, then it's bred into them and they do it for others.

People have always died in dumb ways, only to be shouted at and eventually shaping up.

People have always been lazy. There was a time we did nothing at all for 20 hours of the day until Shamis logged on for 3h to lead a roam.

Current climate only gives ignorant trolls like you a reason to complain and try to grasp at straws to find answers to what is perhaps something you should look inwards to.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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i dont think this current push into Q is anything but diversionary tactics used to aid atlas. Tri know they cant take that space, theyre doing it to get ~good fights~ and to pull goons from insmother.

Also shadoo just ignore gobbins when he gets like this, its easier

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Originally by: Gobbins

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I don't understand the message you are getting across with your post. First you list the various conflicts happening around eve and imply we ***gots have no idea theres fights currently going on.

And then you drop this line and this is when I miss your point. Bury our heads in the sand from what? That there are multiple factions fighting each other? How is that bad for us?

How does being plugged into the larger picture translate into making non agression agreements with a bunch of people? Is it to protect our moons? Is it to prevent a return of the bob menace?

I don't understand what the identity/goal of this alliance is right now Shadoo, so please explain to me.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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go away

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Originally by: Tobruk

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lol this is quite true. the only difference between now and then is that our opponents dont suck so much

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Originally by: Shadoo

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I don't know if it's the language barrier, or the pure ***gotness factor that seeps through his posts like a giant ***** on a summer day.

I can't take it anymore, so he's gonna be taking a little breather from forums.

This thread wasn't posted to solicitate opinions or comments. It's to inform you what is.

If you have opinions as to what's next, you can post them to another thread.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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You have received an infraction at Pandemic Legion
Dear Gobbins,
You have received an infraction at Pandemic Legion.
Reason: The alternative was to kick you altogether, which I may still do.
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Go to the corner. I will consider this when I'm not hovering on kick button.
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This infraction is worth 10 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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Don't let shadoo scare you. If he decides to kick you from nesw, we can find a home for you elsewhere.

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Originally by: Hubris

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just hope they save some of atlas for everyone else in the end the cascade should be very entertaining.

and yes PL is 100 fold different than 2 years ago. But eve basic strategy of allowing factions to fight it out before entering the fight is not different. And old friendships die hard.

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Originally by: Achmetha

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I know how much you like to have friends Shadoo but cut the ****ing cord, Bob are dead how does constantly bluing people / making naps with people benefit us? Why do we care how much pressure is on atlas. We need to get back to being selfish like we were a couple of years ago and not just to benefit you and your jabber buddies. Whatever you might think you a firmly in the minority that is happy you keep setting up these bull**** agreements with people.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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Seriously. You need to go die in a fire.

Holy ****ing **** at you people. What the **** have you turned into.

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Originally by: Ohne

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Elaborate please...

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Originally by: Ecid Q'wulf

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It has not, which makes most of the posts i was able to read so far quite entertaining. , another 1 1/2 pages to go, lets hope gobbins and viper keep up the entertainment value.

Edit: After reading this all, it stopped beeing entertaining and just plain hurts now.

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Originally by: Viper ****zIe

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Oh man that post was so worth it now :smug:

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Originally by: Ecid Q'wulf

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It does not seem to be teh barrier of language :D

Although there is this joke going about since weaks not that when you switch the vocals in "Gobbins" you get "Gibbons"

And yes, the first post was worth it, but not for teh reason you make it out to be Viper :D

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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I'll cut the cord when I get back from vacation (sometime around aug 21st). Unless I see atlas actively dying.

I want atlas to die, but I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon, and I think we need to completely cut the cord with all of these ***gots.

The way we played the game 2-3 years ago was this:
1. ignore politics
2. **** in everybody's cereal.
3. repeat.

I'd like to get back to that.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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yaay lets go shoot poses

though seriously, weve always been 'involved' in wars bigger than ourselves, right back to when we were shooting axe carriers in y-2. we either ****ing split ourselves properly from these ****s, and just go enjoy ourselves again, killing ******s and shooting carriers, or we need to reevaluate what this alliance is all about

I dont really care either way though so do whatever the **** you want

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Originally by: Hortoken Wolfbrother

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let me translate shadoo rage for people not fluent in shadoo speaks.

This war isnt over yet boys. It never actually, was, but until destroy the power base that bob floated on, that turd is gonna keep bobbing on the surface. Shadoo overreacts of course, but his point is valid. Atlas needs to die, and -a- needs to be weakened severely before this war is truely over for good.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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The war is over. -a- and atlas are not bob power blocks. If you'll recall, -a- actually started out on our side, and atlas was a nobody until about 6 months ago.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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yeah, nothing wrong with having a small group of blues that work together. But having thousands of goons and nc blue isn't good.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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lets go work with cry havok to take back their highends

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Originally by: Hortoken Wolfbrother

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Well, thats what im understanding shadoo as saying. I dont care/know if its necessarily true, but a cap agreement coming after our little nc engagement implies that we both hurt the nc, and in a continuing manner are influential to NCs cap movements, and that atlas dying is an important enough goal that we care about nc's/goons strategic goals against them.

If none of the above is true, im with gobbins here in being confused.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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Yes it would be nice to see atlas dead, but at what cost?

Also if NC didn't want to have a cap fight with us, they didn't have to. Shadoo told them we were coming well in advance so they'd have time to prepare. Yes, that is the definition of ***gotry.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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Your knowledge of what happened is as good as your grasp on current EVE politics.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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I play eve for PvP. I have no care for current politics, and I know enough about it to get by.

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Originally by: xxangelxx

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I honestly don't mind what happens, but I would really prefer it if we were just blue to NC/Goons and got this over and done with rather than hearing 'oh no you can't go shoot them' etc every time they have a gang nearby.

I know this is not the case all the time and we have been shooting them more (cap fight good example) but that was the feeling I get sometimes. I'd rather do what you want to do and **** the whiners about blues so we can completely cut ties after instead of having to keep setting/resetting standings.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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TRI/ROL/RKK/A are stepping up their attacks a little in Delve with ROL moving in and RKK moving to Stain to keep KIA busy.

Thus I doubt you'll see too big of a NC deployment into Curse with GF pulled back to Delve now as well.

I suspect it's just RZR who'll be here, and Shamis might want to see with Fred0 if you want to continue with this agreement now or not. Or just wait for 2 weeks and see what the story is.

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Originally by: Dinique

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Shadoo you really need to work on your communication skills.

This relationship won't work if you don't communicate effectively. Communication leads to mutual understanding, without which love cannot blossom or survive.

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Originally by: sakana

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give gobs a mirmir tbh, he maybe left saying bad **** (or w/e i dont know anything about it), but he gave a LOT more than one of those ships is worth to the alliance.

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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel

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How about you ppl spill all the beans instead of this hush hush gayness ?

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Originally by: Straife NESW ass. director

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What beans? He posted he was not returning, was a huge ***got to a lot of people that made them not even want to participate in tourney testing (making him look amazing), then taking too much credit after it was over. If you missed any of that then you're deaf dumb and blind.

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Originally by: blafbeest NESW director

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**** gobbins if he really wanted one that bad he would have stayed or should have.

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Originally by: zenst

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He left and as such showed the alliance no loyalty, so I can totaly understand Shamis resipricating.

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Originally by: Straife

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u mad bro?

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Originally by: Gobbins

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[8==D] MaZ:

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Originally by: Admiral Frools

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Edited by: Admiral Frools on 03/12/2009 18:58:04
I guess you're not coming back then


e: all you had to do to get a mimir was wait a couple of months inactive and then leave once you got it

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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What is it all about?

Is there a tl;dr version?

And you said you stole something? What did you steal?

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Originally by: Gobbins

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<SNIP SNIP SNIP>

Originally by: zenst

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He left and as such showed the alliance no loyalty, so I can totaly understand Shamis resipricating.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: Straife

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u mad bro?

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hey look a meme

what a fitting comeback!

- Gob

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Originally by: Blafbeest

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Omg this is hilarious

Are you honestly that upset that you did not get the shiney toy you think you deserve?

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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition

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I read it all, to summarise,..

After Delve War II, most PL wanted to PvP without having a huge nap list, however shadoo wanted a NAP list with NC being 'Neutrals with benefits', this ****ed off alot of people and caused them to either quit or be inactive,..

Shadoo over and over made it sound like he was better than everyone "not a democracy", well you may feel your members are nothing more than stats but they are the reason PL are where they are,..

I dont personally like PL but for all the same reasons Viper and most PL dislike itself too,..

So really in short, PL have become what they hated the most,..

I say you split into 2 alliances, one that isnt full of ******ed noobs that actually were the reason PL were known as pirates and one that is full of the ***s that ruined PLs piracy name,..

PL have went from a organised crime syndicate to a ghost pet, but we all knew that anyway,..

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Originally by: Bobbechk

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Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition

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I read it all, to summarise,..

After Delve War II, most PL wanted to PvP without having a huge nap list, however shadoo wanted a NAP list with NC being 'Neutrals with benefits', this ****ed off alot of people and caused them to either quit or be inactive,..

Shadoo over and over made it sound like he was better than everyone "not a democracy", well you may feel your members are nothing more than stats but they are the reason PL are where they are,..

I dont personally like PL but for all the same reasons Viper and most PL dislike itself too,..

So really in short, PL have become what they hated the most,..

I say you split into 2 alliances, one that isnt full of ******ed noobs that actually were the reason PL were known as pirates and one that is full of the ***s that ruined PLs piracy name,..

PL have went from a organised crime syndicate to a ghost pet, but we all knew that anyway,..

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you dont understand, shadoo IS better then everyone =)

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Originally by: Straife

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: Straife

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u mad bro?

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hey look a meme

what a fitting comeback!

- Gob

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Dude you've cried anytime anything happened. During the entire thread "drama" that was going on in your first few posts you would cry daily into corp chat hoping people would support you because you were the almight "dream" maker. Now the tears have come to CAOD, but like MastaKilla said, at least this time we all get to have a good jerk to your tears.

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Originally by: Vuk Lau

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Tbh the biggest p0rn in all this rabble is maz jabber nickname

Originally by: Gobbins

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[8==D] MaZ:

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Er, why do you think most of us have been laughing at PL for the last 6 months or so? Finding out that you guys are crippled by paranoia and infighting, and that you've become fat and lazy is hardly a surprise to the rest of Eve.

You lost your mystery and kudos the day you starting behaving like every other napfest alliance.

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Er, why do you think most of us have been laughing at PL for the last 6 months or so? Finding out that you guys are crippled by paranoia and infighting, and that you've become fat and lazy is hardly a surprise to the rest of Eve.

You lost your mystery and kudos the day you starting behaving like every other napfest alliance.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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ALSO everyone knows how much i think viper is a ***got, doesnt stop me working with him, though i wouldnt work with you, what does that say?

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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ALSO everyone knows how much i think viper is a ***got, doesnt stop me working with him, though i wouldnt work with you, what does that say?

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That you are a coward, and you won't stand up for your morals.

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Originally by: xttz

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So let me understand this.

You wanted PL to reset everyone because it would never ever bite them in the ass later on? Then PL did reset everyone, threw caps at them and now those people won't help them.

So you posted these logs to prove.... you were wrong?

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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ALSO everyone knows how much i think viper is a ***got, doesnt stop me working with him, though i wouldnt work with you, what does that say?

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That you are a coward, and you won't stand up for your morals.

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Originally by: Mr Rive

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AAAH so thats why you convoed me fishing for alliance financial details and my opinion on the IT war. You missed out the full log ofc, especially the bit where you were a whiney crybaby.

All this because you didnt get a mimir?? I guess thats what you get when someone is so completely self righteous.

Have fun with no one trusting you in eve again.

ALSO everyone knows how much i think viper is a ***got, doesnt stop me working with him, though i wouldnt work with you, what does that say?

Also if anyone wants the full chat logs of our convo ill post them, though its just me dodging gobbins' obvious attempts at probing me for ****. I was a bit of a ****tease it has to be said

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Originally by: boazikos

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Whats a mimir?

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Originally by: Vuk Lau

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Tbh the biggest p0rn in all this rabble is maz jabber nickname

Originally by: Gobbins

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[8==D] MaZ:

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Originally by: Porgy

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Er, why do you think most of us have been laughing at PL for the last 6 months or so? Finding out that you guys are crippled by paranoia and infighting, and that you've become fat and lazy is hardly a surprise to the rest of Eve.

You lost your mystery and kudos the day you starting behaving like every other napfest alliance.

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you should try that old gig of yours again. You know the one where you were funny. I'd help you but it requires surgically removing your lips from around IT's ****.

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Originally by: Mr Macawesome

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Dear shadoo,

I really like how you talk so much crap about atlas and how full of yourself you are. I also like how your pvp elitist alliance is handeling the presure. You were so right about everything you said about atlas and you truly are the best person to make such observations. I in no way think you are delusional or full of yourself. You are also not an idiot.

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Originally by: Metal Dude

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What? A fake reset from the "Supperpower" of EVE? NEVER!!!

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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I want atlas to die, but I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon, and I think we need to completely cut the cord with all of these ***gots.

The way we played the game 2-3 years ago was this:
1. ignore politics
2. **** in everybody's cereal.
3. repeat.

I'd like to get back to that.

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Originally by: General Windypops

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I'm not here to be funny, I am here to be the sword of truth. And you, sir, have been firmly impaled by my chopper. Besides, enough people are laughing at you in here already without me adding to the hilarity.

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Wow it sounds like a lot of fun in PL and not at all over-serious.

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Originally by: Shad0w Hawk

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Wow it sounds like a lot of fun in PL and not at all over-serious.

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So this is what, the 4th ****post in 2 pages?

You mad bro?

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.

Ok lets go with Gob first:

You are a pathetic little man must be something in the water where you live France?, if not you should be. The day you left Tri to go join the blob to fight YOUR own corp proved that. You made excuses about no fun, you were mad, etc, etc... Lets face it you just wanted to join the winning blob side, you didn't care about anything else but being in the blob. And thats understandable cause as an FC and a pilot you were and still are horrible.

Which brings us to your next choice of people to fly with (PL) nothing in their actions has been a pandemic, its more like pathetic legion. This is a group of incompetence that can and only has achieved anything riding on the coat tails of NAP trains. The further their sorry exhistance continues the more people they NAP. From the first time I saw them hi five each other after killing 5 bob guys with 50 ships to the last time I saw them try and get involved in a fight where their enemy was already outnumbered 4:1 my opinion of them has been the same. Their leader (Shamis or whatever) is a ****sucker and he enjoys it, cause without that skill he would still be mwd'ing away from 5 bob guys with a 50 man nano*** gang in Delve.

So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it? You belong with each other, now do us all a favor and go back to PL cause exceed just does not understand what you really are.

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it?...

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.

Ok lets go with Gob first:

You are a pathetic little man must be something in the water where you live France?, if not you should be. The day you left Tri to go join the blob to fight YOUR own corp proved that. You made excuses about no fun, you were mad, etc, etc... Lets face it you just wanted to join the winning blob side, you didn't care about anything else but being in the blob. And thats understandable cause as an FC and a pilot you were and still are horrible.

Which brings us to your next choice of people to fly with (PL) nothing in their actions has been a pandemic, its more like pathetic legion. This is a group of incompetence that can and only has achieved anything riding on the coat tails of NAP trains. The further their sorry exhistance continues the more people they NAP. From the first time I saw them hi five each other after killing 5 bob guys with 50 ships to the last time I saw them try and get involved in a fight where their enemy was already outnumbered 4:1 my opinion of them has been the same. Their leader (Shamis or whatever) is a ****sucker and he enjoys it, cause without that skill he would still be mwd'ing away from 5 bob guys with a 50 man nano*** gang in Delve.

So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it? You belong with each other, now do us all a favor and go back to PL cause exceed just does not understand what you really are.

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.

Ok lets go with Gob first:

You are a pathetic little man must be something in the water where you live France?, if not you should be. The day you left Tri to go join the blob to fight YOUR own corp proved that. You made excuses about no fun, you were mad, etc, etc... Lets face it you just wanted to join the winning blob side, you didn't care about anything else but being in the blob. And thats understandable cause as an FC and a pilot you were and still are horrible.

Which brings us to your next choice of people to fly with (PL) nothing in their actions has been a pandemic, its more like pathetic legion. This is a group of incompetence that can and only has achieved anything riding on the coat tails of NAP trains. The further their sorry exhistance continues the more people they NAP. From the first time I saw them hi five each other after killing 5 bob guys with 50 ships to the last time I saw them try and get involved in a fight where their enemy was already outnumbered 4:1 my opinion of them has been the same. Their leader (Shamis or whatever) is a ****sucker and he enjoys it, cause without that skill he would still be mwd'ing away from 5 bob guys with a 50 man nano*** gang in Delve.

So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it? You belong with each other, now do us all a favor and go back to PL cause exceed just does not understand what you really are.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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sup rives, back to the game yet? I hear fountain is under attack

- Gob

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Originally by: Orion Slavegirl

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And lawl at all Damage Controling from PL :)

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Originally by: Admiral Frools

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Originally by: Metal Dude

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What? A fake reset from the "Supperpower" of EVE? NEVER!!!

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I'm so glad you're back :3

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Originally by: marxist revolutionary

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out of curiosity why've you re-blued us to help in fountain then

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.

Ok lets go with Gob first:

You are a pathetic little man must be something in the water where you live France?, if not you should be. The day you left Tri to go join the blob to fight YOUR own corp proved that. You made excuses about no fun, you were mad, etc, etc... Lets face it you just wanted to join the winning blob side, you didn't care about anything else but being in the blob. And thats understandable cause as an FC and a pilot you were and still are horrible.

Which brings us to your next choice of people to fly with (PL) nothing in their actions has been a pandemic, its more like pathetic legion. This is a group of incompetence that can and only has achieved anything riding on the coat tails of NAP trains. The further their sorry exhistance continues the more people they NAP. From the first time I saw them hi five each other after killing 5 bob guys with 50 ships to the last time I saw them try and get involved in a fight where their enemy was already outnumbered 4:1 my opinion of them has been the same. Their leader (Shamis or whatever) is a ****sucker and he enjoys it, cause without that skill he would still be mwd'ing away from 5 bob guys with a 50 man nano*** gang in Delve.

So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it? You belong with each other, now do us all a favor and go back to PL cause exceed just does not understand what you really are.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Thanks for providing some entertainment gobbins. Nothing new but still a good read.

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Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan

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CIPPA IM SCARED WHAT DO I DO SHOULD I EVAC HOLD ME

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Hey kick remember when everybody used to talk about BURN EDEN? Was it 2006 or 2007?



No wait it was a couple months ago (you lost a titan to the people you were supposed to be griefing). Hope this helps.

- Gob

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Originally by: xttz

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So let me understand this.

You wanted PL to reset everyone because it would never ever bite them in the ass later on? Then PL did reset everyone, threw caps at them and now those people won't help them.

So you posted these logs to prove.... you were wrong?

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: xttz

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So let me understand this.

You wanted PL to reset everyone because it would never ever bite them in the ass later on? Then PL did reset everyone, threw caps at them and now those people won't help them.

So you posted these logs to prove.... you were wrong?

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This is a good point. However pandemic legion works differently than goonswarm - if the endpoint is losing space/moons, you are 100% right. Resetting everybody would have been a disaster. But it isn't. I am sure PL can survive without space and even moons as long as their members are active and motivated - and PL are the kind of alliance where members do not need space and moons to be motivated.

The issue with PL is the inactivity and boredom that have been slowly killing the alliance from the inside, but what caused it to being with? My answer, right or worng, is in the op. I am curious to hear what the cause was in your opinion xttz.

- Gob

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Originally by: Gobbins

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The issue with PL is the inactivity and boredom that have been slowly killing the alliance from the inside, but what caused it to being with?

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Originally by: Bronson Arroyo

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Yo, PL would still be camped into some dumb station by IT alliance, who are completely terrible, if Goonswarm didn't bail them out and most of the people here don't really see the point of it because it will probably just happen again.

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Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan

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CIPPA IM SCARED WHAT DO I DO SHOULD I EVAC HOLD ME

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Originally by: SATAN

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Oh dear where to start.

Ok lets go with Gob first:

You are a pathetic little man must be something in the water where you live France?, if not you should be. The day you left Tri to go join the blob to fight YOUR own corp proved that. You made excuses about no fun, you were mad, etc, etc... Lets face it you just wanted to join the winning blob side, you didn't care about anything else but being in the blob. And thats understandable cause as an FC and a pilot you were and still are horrible.

Which brings us to your next choice of people to fly with (PL) nothing in their actions has been a pandemic, its more like pathetic legion. This is a group of incompetence that can and only has achieved anything riding on the coat tails of NAP trains. The further their sorry exhistance continues the more people they NAP. From the first time I saw them hi five each other after killing 5 bob guys with 50 ships to the last time I saw them try and get involved in a fight where their enemy was already outnumbered 4:1 my opinion of them has been the same. Their leader (Shamis or whatever) is a ****sucker and he enjoys it, cause without that skill he would still be mwd'ing away from 5 bob guys with a 50 man nano*** gang in Delve.

So why am I posting all this? Its obvious isn't it? You belong with each other, now do us all a favor and go back to PL cause exceed just does not understand what you really are.

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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy

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At the end of the day, the same people who refuse to engage us or need to bring 5k morons to do it will still whine about us, blob us, smack us.

And damn, I love it.

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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy

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No one causes more nerdrage in failing failures such as Hey You, SATAN, Windypops, Metal Dude and all the terrible CAOD posters.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy

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At the end of the day, the same people who refuse to engage us or need to bring 5k morons to do it will still whine about us, blob us, smack us.

And damn, I love it.

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Me too!

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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What is mimir ?

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Originally by: vamira

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Man will be always a child vOv

But i think we all loving that :D

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: xttz

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So let me understand this.

You wanted PL to reset everyone because it would never ever bite them in the ass later on? Then PL did reset everyone, threw caps at them and now those people won't help them.

So you posted these logs to prove.... you were wrong?

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This is a good point. However pandemic legion works differently than goonswarm - if the endpoint is losing space/moons, you are 100% right. Resetting everybody would have been a disaster. But it isn't. I am sure PL can survive without space and even moons as long as their members are active and motivated - and PL are the kind of alliance where members do not need space and moons to be motivated.

The issue with PL is the inactivity and boredom that have been slowly killing the alliance from the inside, but what caused it to being with? My answer, right or worng, is in the op. I am curious to hear what the cause was in your opinion xttz.

- Gob

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heh, I was gonna post something like this - instead I posted it on our internal forums.

Cuz you're 100% right, people should have learnt from our mistakes.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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What is mimir ?

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In before a WOW joke

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Originally by: Shad0w Hawk

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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What is mimir ?

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In before a WOW joke

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What is a mimir in Wow and ~how would you know that~ ?

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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy

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At the end of the day, the same people who refuse to engage us or need to bring 5k morons to do it will still whine about us, blob us, smack us.

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Originally by: Pnuka

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When PL renames themselves Sasaki, we'll make sure to ask your opinion on running a 0.0 alliance.

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Originally by: Soggybottom

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Real Talk

Eve 0.0 game is boring and all 0.0 entities except the biggest poopsockers know this. The limited amount I've seen of the new sov system doesn't show any difference. Delve II was boring as hell and was full of huge blobs and boring TZ stuff. So many burned themselves out on that crap. With bob dead. (The alliance that is responsible for the big napfests the alts and Metal dude whine about) pl hoped that the power blocs could dissolve and people could concentrate on the fun aspects of this game which is pvp for the sake of pvp. Any attempts to do this met with failure. our allies had to stick up for xdeath since Atlas was intent on being bob 2.0 to gain some sort of erespect. So Shamis had to do the right thing and stick with our allies. Curse turtled up anywyas so we moved to the north and gave Mostly Harmless and TCF the gift of pvp without any sov risks, but rather then embrace that they got butt hurt and quit. meantime IT enveloped all their pets and reformed into a giant alliance that had no sov. Did they bother attacking any of the guys who threw them under a bus? nope so AAA continues to rot surrounded by blues and IT goes after an alliance that they can easily out blob with giant bs fleets. Titans are no longer and option and people are used to bombers so pl is at a loss as to how to counter this. Of course it is just bob so when they have an objective they put up a massive blob to accomplish it. If the numbers against them pose any risk they turtle up and call it a day. there is no gift of pvp here just another poopsockin sov contention war. so i'm not surprised that the old guard isn't clamouring to log in or that goons is jumping over themselves to come hlep. Plus nc is butthurt and obsessed with honour. and lol at the alt posters and elite pvpers that gate camp all day in marauders.

Real talk yo!

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Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan

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CIPPA IM SCARED WHAT DO I DO SHOULD I EVAC HOLD ME

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Originally by: Fire Hawk

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Our damage control was better tbh...

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Originally by: xRazoRx

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Originally by: Shad0w Hawk

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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What is mimir ?

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In before a WOW joke

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What is a mimir in Wow and ~how would you know that~ ?

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You are far too terrible even for PL. Get out.

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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What is mimir ?

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Originally by: Svett

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I am incredibly disappointed to see no quality posts from cippa in those logs. Please edit some in. Thank you.

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Originally by: xttz

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So let me understand this.

You wanted PL to reset everyone because it would never ever bite them in the ass later on? Then PL did reset everyone, threw caps at them and now those people won't help them.

So you posted these logs to prove.... you were wrong?

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Originally by: Goose Hypocrisy

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Originally by: Svett

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I am incredibly disappointed to see no quality posts from cippa in those logs. Please edit some in. Thank you.

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I'm not sure but I think I'm the edited guy at post #13 (aka zzzz). The original chatlog happened in Italian, but I need Gobbins to confirm that, some other guy might've said similar things.

If Gobbins is smart however, he's watching Travaglio completely destroy Berlusconi on Rai Due, like I'm doing now.

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Originally by: Gaius Capua

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Edited by: Gaius Capua on 03/12/2009 20:40:21
Gobby that's a lot of words for a pretty sucky ship. (That Straife ruined the market for)

but yeah I'm fine with you getting a Mimir.

Oh and just be lucky we didn't "hurley" your Titan.

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Originally by: Gobbins

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I am roaming in bombers atm :v

- Gob

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Originally by: Soggybottom

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Real Talk

Eve 0.0 game is boring and all 0.0 entities except the biggest poopsockers know this. The limited amount I've seen of the new sov system doesn't show any difference. Delve II was boring as hell and was full of huge blobs and boring TZ stuff. So many burned themselves out on that crap. With bob dead. (The alliance that is responsible for the big napfests the alts and Metal dude whine about) pl hoped that the power blocs could dissolve and people could concentrate on the fun aspects of this game which is pvp for the sake of pvp. Any attempts to do this met with failure. our allies had to stick up for xdeath since Atlas was intent on being bob 2.0 to gain some sort of erespect. So Shamis had to do the right thing and stick with our allies. Curse turtled up anywyas so we moved to the north and gave Mostly Harmless and TCF the gift of pvp without any sov risks, but rather then embrace that they got butt hurt and quit. meantime IT enveloped all their pets and reformed into a giant alliance that had no sov. Did they bother attacking any of the guys who threw them under a bus? nope so AAA continues to rot surrounded by blues and IT goes after an alliance that they can easily out blob with giant bs fleets. Titans are no longer and option and people are used to bombers so pl is at a loss as to how to counter this. Of course it is just bob so when they have an objective they put up a massive blob to accomplish it. If the numbers against them pose any risk they turtle up and call it a day. there is no gift of pvp here just another poopsockin sov contention war. so i'm not surprised that the old guard isn't clamouring to log in or that goons is jumping over themselves to come hlep. Plus nc is butthurt and obsessed with honour. and lol at the alt posters and elite pvpers that gate camp all day in marauders.

Real talk yo!

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Originally by: mazzilliu

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Edited by: mazzilliu on 03/12/2009 21:39:10
[QUOTE=Tobruk]THAT THREAD MAKES NOT GIVING HIM ONE TOTALY WORTH IT.

i was for him getting one, but now there is no doubt in my mind he was a huge ***got. priceless thread[/QUOTE]

i leaked this from our internal forums. i think the rest of this thread is funny.

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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Originally by: Antairus

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I cant Take it!

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Take it, just hang in there and it'll soon be over! You have to hang in there!

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: mazzilliu

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Edited by: mazzilliu on 03/12/2009 21:39:10
[QUOTE=Tobruk]THAT THREAD MAKES NOT GIVING HIM ONE TOTALY WORTH IT.

i was for him getting one, but now there is no doubt in my mind he was a huge ***got. priceless thread[/QUOTE]

i leaked this from our internal forums. i think the rest of this thread is funny.

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I think tobruk should be careful given his PMs :p

- Gob

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Originally by: Gobbins

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Originally by: mazzilliu

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Edited by: mazzilliu on 03/12/2009 21:39:10
[QUOTE=Tobruk]THAT THREAD MAKES NOT GIVING HIM ONE TOTALY WORTH IT.

i was for him getting one, but now there is no doubt in my mind he was a huge ***got. priceless thread[/QUOTE]

i leaked this from our internal forums. i think the rest of this thread is funny.

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I think tobruk should be careful given his PMs :p

- Gob

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Originally by: Mitch Taylor

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So PL is like goons but without the cutesy were cool motif?

Or did I miss something...

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Originally by: Betty Boom

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It's a heavy assault ship - unique

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Originally by: Skilo

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This coming from someone on the blob side of Delve II made me LOL

Real LOL

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Originally by: Mr Macawesome

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Dear porgy,

I revoked that offer last week. You jumped onto the fail boat and now you're gonna have to go down with the ship. Maybe when you stop getting angry at the internets we can talk. Until then try and keep the nerd rage to a minimum.




Ps: dasty <3 gobs 4ver

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Originally by: Mr Macawesome

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I would let offig in. Now taking bets on how long it takes sot or pl to blow up his tempest and claim he was defecting to atlas.


That is a pretty horrible policy you guys got up there in fountain

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Originally by: Graalum

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the closest porgy gets to me is hardgay

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Originally by: Graalum

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the closest porgy gets to me is hardgay

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he's not very funny in there though now :(

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Originally by: Bronson Arroyo

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Yo, PL would still be camped into some dumb station by IT alliance, who are completely terrible, if Goonswarm didn't bail them out and most of the people here don't really see the point of it because it will probably just happen again.

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Originally by: Skilo

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Originally by: Soggybottom

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Real Talk

Eve 0.0 game is boring and all 0.0 entities except the biggest poopsockers know this. The limited amount I've seen of the new sov system doesn't show any difference. Delve II was boring as hell and was full of huge blobs and boring TZ stuff. So many burned themselves out on that crap.

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This coming from someone on the blob side of Delve II made me LOL

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Originally by: Graalum

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i woudl have never let anyone let him anyways. the closest porgy gets to me is hardgay

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Originally by: Varesk

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Originally by: Bronson Arroyo

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Yo, PL would still be camped into some dumb station by IT alliance, who are completely terrible, if Goonswarm didn't bail them out and most of the people here don't really see the point of it because it will probably just happen again.

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PL broke the camp before GS showed up.

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Originally by: Varesk

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Originally by: Bronson Arroyo

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Yo, PL would still be camped into some dumb station by IT alliance, who are completely terrible, if Goonswarm didn't bail them out and most of the people here don't really see the point of it because it will probably just happen again.

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PL broke the camp before GS showed up.

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Originally by: Anna Valerios

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What I love MOST about this thread, is this is exactly like bob. ahahhaahahahahahaahahaha.... ahahhahahahahahaha.

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Originally by: Anna Valerios

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What I love MOST about this thread, is this is exactly like bob. ahahhaahahahahahaahahaha.... ahahhahahahahahaha.

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Originally by: Nicholas Barker

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Originally by: Varesk

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Originally by: Bronson Arroyo

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Yo, PL would still be camped into some dumb station by IT alliance, who are completely terrible, if Goonswarm didn't bail them out and most of the people here don't really see the point of it because it will probably just happen again.

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PL broke the camp before GS showed up.

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They blew up the bubbles with a massive capital undock, which were replaced with dictor bubbles, and refused to leave docking range until goons showed up and forced the campers off grid.

They then attacked pos for the next few hours before goons left, and then got camped back in the station for the next 20 something hours.

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Originally by: Nicholas Barker

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They blew up the bubbles with a massive capital undock

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Originally by: Graalum

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Originally by: Graalum

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the closest porgy gets to me is hardgay

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he's not very funny in there though now :(

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i've never seen you in hardgay....


ofc i stopped paying attention there once they let snot shot in

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Anna Valerios

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What I love MOST about this thread, is this is exactly like bob. ahahhaahahahahahaahahaha.... ahahhahahahahahaha.

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My name is not gobbins.

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Originally by: Hubris

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Originally by: Nicholas Barker

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They blew up the bubbles with a massive capital undock

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so 20 or 30 caps is now massive. LULZ
might want to talk to your IT brosefs about that.

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