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Napro
Caldari Universal Development And Security
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Posted - 2009.12.07 12:52:00 -
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Why couldn't CCP have kept both Doomsday (Area effect and single target effect)? Then the pilot choose what to fit to his ship?
Area effect dd was great for wiping out hordes of support, wasnt it?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Why couldn't CCP have kept both Doomsday (Area effect and single target effect)? Then the pilot choose what to fit to his ship?
Area effect dd was great for wiping out any fun in 0.0 wasn't it?
FYP
Now that the big powerblocks can't hide their space behind the same old predictable triple-DD PUSH BUTAN END FITE routine, the map might actually change a little. Getting rid of grid DD will do more to make the map dynamic than all the sov changes combined tbh. (At least in the short term)
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Stevens
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Abrazzar The current design is obsolete and should not be used at all until it got its patch.
True, it is much better to park the mothership somewhere safe so you can use the character for other stuff, oh wait...
The devs are really showing their understanding of game design and priority with this one.
Please tell me where someone can safely park a MoM and then you might have a basis for this statement.
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Mukuro Gravedigger
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:30:00 -
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Without sounding too callous, a ship's destruction, especially the larger ones, helps drive the market.
*returns to mining for future required minerals.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Stevens
Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Abrazzar The current design is obsolete and should not be used at all until it got its patch.
True, it is much better to park the mothership somewhere safe so you can use the character for other stuff, oh wait...
The devs are really showing their understanding of game design and priority with this one.
Please tell me where someone can safely park a MoM and then you might have a basis for this statement.
You log out. Don't say people actually have supercap pilots as their mains. --------
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gun Gal his fitting was very bad.
face it, you have a 18 bill ship you should fit it accordingly.
he didnt.
he died.
move along.
Funny guy.
Second titan didn't do any damage because he POPPED AFTER MY DD. Even if he had had slaves, and t2 trimarks, and x-type hardeners, he would have died.
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UVPhoenix2
R.EVE.olutioN Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:08:00 -
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Quick someone post the link again. Let's make Apple work for that paycheck.
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Torpir Lee
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:17:00 -
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Nothing's stopping people from baiting with command ship bonused moms hugging the pos shields.
Also the ship isn't worth 18 bil. Well it won't be very soon. 5 bil was it? I thought mom pilots were getting some kind of reimbursement come the change, though i'm not sure.
And when it does get its HP buffed to tank 2 DD's, people will just whine it can't tank 3, and so on.
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Scam Watcher
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker Finally the titans have some DPS... the old doomsday couldn't even take out a well tanked BS. Guess they're finally worth the price tag
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Tover Chris
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tover Chris on 07/12/2009 17:25:54
Originally by: Torpir Lee Nothing's stopping people from baiting with command ship bonused moms hugging the pos shields.
Also the ship isn't worth 18 bil. Well it won't be very soon. 5 bil was it? I thought mom pilots were getting some kind of reimbursement come the change, though i'm not sure.
And when it does get its HP buffed to tank 2 DD's, people will just whine it can't tank 3, and so on.
no, the price reduction and any changes were scrapped.
Nozh's changes were ******ed anyway.
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Scam Watcher
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Gun Gal his fitting was very bad.
face it, you have a 18 bill ship you should fit it accordingly.
he didnt.
he died.
move along.
Funny guy.
Second titan didn't do any damage because he POPPED AFTER MY DD. Even if he had had slaves, and t2 trimarks, and x-type hardeners, he would have died.
because you the all-important HIC tackling him right? He shouldnt have panicked, and he'd still be alive. |
ChakanForever
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ai Mei Killmail link removed.Applebabe
18 billion isk gone in 15 seconds from 1 i repeat ONE TITAN
GG, time to keep my hel alt logged off in low sec.
Barrel Roll? |
Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: ChakanForever
Originally by: Ai Mei Killmail link removed.Applebabe
18 billion isk gone in 15 seconds from 1 i repeat ONE TITAN
GG, time to keep my hel alt logged off in low sec.
Barrel Roll?
i was thinking more loop the loop
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Scam Watcher
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Gun Gal his fitting was very bad.
face it, you have a 18 bill ship you should fit it accordingly.
he didnt.
he died.
move along.
Funny guy.
Second titan didn't do any damage because he POPPED AFTER MY DD. Even if he had had slaves, and t2 trimarks, and x-type hardeners, he would have died.
because you the all-important HIC tackling him right? He shouldnt have panicked, and he'd still be alive.
Both titans jumped in same second. Nomi might have been just .5 or 1 second behind me, either way, he was dead, no fitting would have saved him.
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Rpeg
Minmatar Rosa Castellum
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:29:00 -
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Let me get this straight. A guy like me gets beat up for attempting to travel through 0.0 and poses no threat. You however lose yourbig ship because of another big ship and you expect us to feel sorry for you? Call the waaambulance? -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com |
Woodwraith
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rpeg Let me get this straight. A guy like me gets beat up for attempting to travel through 0.0 and poses no threat. You however lose yourbig ship because of another big ship and you expect us to feel sorry for you? Call the waaambulance?
Pose as much threat as you like, you'll be shot on site either way. The complaint isn't over the loss of the ship itself, its a question of wether the titans should have gotten this boost leaving Moms in the dust EHP wise, and opening them up to instagibbing like this. About as wise as throwing your drunk daughter into a raging frat party, not much variation on whos gonna get it worse, |
Obsidian Hawk
Free Galactic Enterprises FREGE
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:55:00 -
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I think people are missing the point of this thread.
This is a 16 billion isk ship that got 1 shotted. A SUPER CAPITAL got 1 shotted. Isn't there something wrong with that?
Applebabe I love you and all but could you put the link back up please? This is an issue that urgently needs to be addressed.
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:00:00 -
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I bet there was a "Boom Headshot" for the titan pilot.
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Light Echo
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Light Echo on 07/12/2009 20:00:56 The kill in question:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5122895
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Captain Tardbar
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk This is a 16 billion isk ship that got 1 shotted. A SUPER CAPITAL got 1 shotted. Isn't there something wrong with that?
Its good for the economy and puts miners back to work.
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Rpeg
Minmatar Rosa Castellum
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Woodwraith
Pose as much threat as you like, you'll be shot on site either way. The complaint isn't over the loss of the ship itself, its a question of wether the titans should have gotten this boost leaving Moms in the dust EHP wise, and opening them up to instagibbing like this. About as wise as throwing your drunk daughter into a raging frat party, not much variation on whos gonna get it worse,
waaaaaaaaaambulance... hurry up! it's still coming by. you can catch it! -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com |
fuze
Gallente Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Both titans jumped in same second. Nomi might have been just .5 or 1 second behind me, either way, he was dead, no fitting would have saved him.
So what do you think about this? Planning to sucker more moms or does it feel icky?
Originally by: The Mittani Where's the excellence?
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.07 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rpeg Let me get this straight. A guy like me gets beat up for attempting to travel through 0.0 and poses no threat. You however lose yourbig ship because of another big ship and you expect us to feel sorry for you? Call the waaambulance?
If one of the key balancing features of you travelling through 0.0 and posing no thread was that you could survive, then you'd have some cause for sympathy.
The problem you're missing is that, in designing the new DDD, there were a lot of concern that it would unduly upset the capship balance, at which point CCP said "ok, we'll make sure that supercaps can survive it"… and then they withdrew that part of the change and left the other side of the changes in. People aren't whining because they get blown up – they're whining because CCP said that they wouldn't be blown up in this exact situation, and then reneged on that rather important point and thus made the entire ship class pointless. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2009.12.07 21:09:00 -
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Jeez. What is it about an instapopped mothership that brings out the trolls in force?
Something about envy that makes people stupid I guess. Poor guy looses a ship that represented months or years of in-game of work and effort to build, and the trolls laugh and point and throw mud. "haha, I'll never have a ship like that, so its funny that you lost yours - WORKS AS INTENDED"
I mean, hell - I don't fly capitals - but I can appreciate what it takes to make one - and certainly can see whats wrong with a 1 DD insta-kill. IMO, Troll can take that 'finger of death' and jam it...well, somewhere unoriginal.
Its hardly intended - CCP was proposing massive changes and got wrapped around the axle in the process at a late stage. I imagine that they calculated the supercapital player base was small (and captive) enough that they could slack on the cap-ship balance for awhile - perhaps assuming that the mothership owners would just suffer in silence while a new role was determined.
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Discrodia
Gallente Experimental Horizons
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Posted - 2009.12.07 21:22:00 -
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So you're *****ing because you went running around with an 18billion ISK piece of military hardware, not knowing how to properly use it. And some guy with a 100billion ISK piece of hardware comes along and blows your ass to hell. Meanwhile zillions of other people fly their ships perfectly competently, yet are destroyed because some blob decides they don't want neuts in local. Oh, and those people just shrug and GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
Meanwhile you ***** about the other guy having spent more time and SP to get a better ship and actually learned how to fly it, but we're supposed to feel sorry for you. You deserve all the flames you get.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Locked, thread is filled with trolling.
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Rpeg
Minmatar Rosa Castellum
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Posted - 2009.12.07 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Discrodia So you're *****ing because you went running around with an 18billion ISK piece of military hardware, not knowing how to properly use it. And some guy with a 100billion ISK piece of hardware comes along and blows your ass to hell. Meanwhile zillions of other people fly their ships perfectly competently, yet are destroyed because some blob decides they don't want neuts in local. Oh, and those people just shrug and GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
Meanwhile you ***** about the other guy having spent more time and SP to get a better ship and actually learned how to fly it, but we're supposed to feel sorry for you. You deserve all the flames you get.
/signed -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com |
Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:20:00 -
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Not just trolls, but Che T-shirt wearing trolls. Sub-capital ship fliers of the world unite!
Perhaps your cute little beret is on a bit too tight?
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:44:00 -
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I've not been in game.. someone link me the threadnaught discussing the mothership rollback/nerf/****brick and its consequences.
in before eve-search. ♥
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse death from above..
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:45:00 -
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It's indicative of the state of these forums that people are defending something which is so self-evidently borked. Any excuse to be hostile morons.
---- Me - Plim Character. You - Non-Plim Character. |
Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:49:00 -
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…come to think of it, that loss could be subject to reimbursement – it's due to an unintended feature, after all. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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