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Opportunity Costs Caldari	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:52:00 - [1] Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 10/12/2009 18:53:55 Some day I will be rich Some day I will fly an awesome ship Some day I will live in 0.0 Some day I will get to do proper PVP Some day I will forge a powerful empire ... ... ... TLDR: Some day I will enjoy this game every once in a while, a new thread is created whose title is like "tell me how to enjoy this game" or so. and frankly, I think most of players have questioned themselves something like that at least twice in their eve-lifes. is EVE a long desired dream that never comes true? like an awesome based game with many possibilites and too much potential, but empty of real enjoyment when translating it into real world playing? Discuss. __________________________________ - Mining your own minerals doesnt drop your manufacturing costs! - Marginal earnings is what actually counts - Time is isk and enjoyment is isk aswell
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:58:00 - [2] Enjoyed it from day 1, still do, always have, probably always will. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Laciter	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:00:00 - [3] You can do two of those easily right off the bat. Being rich either takes patience, loose morals, or good market information. "Awesome" is all relative. If you start out wanting a Titan, it will be a long way off. But if you set your sights on a sweet hot rod like a Dramiel, you'll be satisfied much quicker. I don't know a thing about forging an empire, but I have little interest in it.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:02:00 - [4] Why do the two need to be mutually exclusive? I mean if you're not enjoying playing the game without the uber-FOTM ship, why would you necessarily enjoy the game any more with it? Perhaps it's different varieties of players, I don't know. I know I, and a lot of the people I interact with regularly, have fun, regardless of what our long term goals are. My ultimate goal is to get into a carrier, but there are a lot of steps along that path. But that doesn't mean that I am mindlessly grinding away and that I am not having fun right now. Will I enjoy it when I get a carrier? I think so, but maybe not. But one thing is certain, I am definately having a good time right now, even without it. --Vel In the world of emoticons, I was colon capital d.
Inertial The Scope	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:06:00 - [5] If you are thinking "some day I will X" then you are thinking wrongly. How about just doing it, instead of thinking about doing it some day.
WhiteSavage Ever Flow Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:17:00 - [6] yeah so you can move to 0.0 and do proper pvp whenever you decide to actually do it. To suggest that EVE is lacking because certain individuals dream of things but don't do anything to actually accomplish those dreams... :\
Neamus	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Opportunity Costs Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 10/12/2009 18:53:55 Some day I will be rich Some day I will fly an awesome ship Some day I will live in 0.0 Some day I will get to do proper PVP Some day I will forge a powerful empire ... EvE succeeds because it doesn't guarantee any of this, how can it when the whole game is essentially player driven? An opening sequence, some intro missions and then... Well, its up to you really isn't it. Enjoyment or lack thereof is purely subjective. Some people prefer linear games with a clearly defined start/middle/end and set of rules to get from one end to the other. Personally I like the challenge of not actually knowing if I'll succeed or not, thats why I play eve. When I'm in the mood for something more linear (but still fkin awesome) I'll go play my current favorite, modern warfare 2.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:30:00 - [8] Originally by: Opportunity Costs Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 10/12/2009 18:53:55 Some day I will be rich Some day I will drive an awesome car Some day I will live in a penthouse suite Some day I will marry a kickboxing supermodel Some day I will forge a powerful empire ... ... ... TLDR: Some day I will enjoy this life every once in a while, a new thread is created whose title is like "tell me how to enjoy this life" or so. and frankly, I think most of people have questioned themselves something like that at least twice in their lives. is success a long desired dream that never comes true? like an awesome dream with many possibilities and too much potential, but empty of real enjoyment when translating it into the real world? Discuss. I fixed this for you, to make it more apt. In EVE, what is the difference between you and the players that do become rich, fly awesome ships, live in 0.0, do proper PVP, and forge powerful empires? The answer, nothing.. other than your willingness to go out and do it. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Ryhss Caldari Recalled Pleasure-Bots	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Winterblink Enjoyed it from day 1, still do, always have, probably always will. Same.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:42:00 - [10] I loved this game since I first created my account, it just keeps getting better and better. It's like eve-o-lution and progression day to day. I am always finding new stuff and new ways to do things.
Dante Marduk Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Winterblink Enjoyed it from day 1, still do, always have, probably always will. QUIT POSTING MAKE A NEW WDA that is all
Lord Helghast	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:43:00 - [12] Edited by: Lord Helghast on 10/12/2009 20:43:17 Some day I will be rich - Come now whats "rich", when i hit 100m i thought i was rich when i cud buy 50 frigates, then i hit 1b and thought i was rich its relative Some day I will fly an awesome ship - Also relative, but the fact is the faction ships are awesome and easily obtainable, and battleships are wicked and easily obtainable after even 1 mth. Some day I will live in 0.0 - *Wow this is like saying, some day i'll ask that hot girl out, JUST FCKING GO! That same gate camper that pops u might recruit you. Some day I will get to do proper PVP - Relative, as a t1 alt frigate can proper pvp vs just about any other t1 frigate to an extent, what the fck is proper?* Some day I will forge a powerful empire - This is my idea of fun, especially when you get to do it with friends :D
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:46:00 - [13] You can get a totally awesome ship within the first few weeks...ie. a rifter :P, within the first month and a half, you could have yourself a jaguar or wolf and be even more totally awesome...
Hoo Is	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:47:00 - [14] Someday CCP will release a patch that isn't FUBAR ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban
Pater Peccavi Minmatar The Bastards	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:51:00 - [15] I have plenty of fun flying what I can fly today. And then, when I finish training up for something new, it's not "Finally, can't believe how long that took," it's "Ooo! New toys!" Enjoy flying the stuff it's easy to train into, those things can be lots of fun and are generally cheaper to fly around and lose. Oh, and PvP. Nothing keeps EVE exciting like good ol' blood-pumpin, heart-thumpin PvP. _________
Serpent Kamri	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:34:00 - [16] The key to having fun in EVE is... ...wait for it... ...playing with the right people!
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Serpent Kamri The key to having fun in EVE is... ...wait for it... ...playing with the right people! So true, I was in a corp where the CEO gave half truths based on knee jerk reactions and liked to only take risks on the test server. We broke away and now have more fun then we ever had.
Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:07:00 - [18] Originally by: Serpent Kamri The key to having fun in EVE is... ...wait for it... ...playing with the right people! /thread.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Dante Marduk Originally by: Winterblink Enjoyed it from day 1, still do, always have, probably always will. QUIT POSTING MAKE A NEW WDA that is all If I didn't have to work late this week I would have had another one out, dammit :P warp drive active \| nature vraie
Kelshall Gallente The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:42:00 - [20] ITT: Someone works out that the main 'hook' in MMOs for many, many people is the sense of always having something to aim at. More at 11.
Caroll Yanaki Gallente Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing Wicked Nation	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:45:00 - [21] Edited by: Caroll Yanaki on 11/12/2009 16:45:34 I had the extreme luck to find some awesome folks in this game just three weeks since I've started it. The game still has tons of issues, but I must admit that it is unique. The uniquest of all other uniques, if I may. This game gave me new friends from all across the world, It's been two years already and I still fly with them. This game gave me a new, deeper prospective about "playing an MMORPG". This game gave me the feeling that I'm a part of something and that I can work for and help my buddies. And this fact makes me deeply immersed and entertained. I agree, it's the people that count.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:52:00 - [22] Originally by: Hoo Is Someday CCP will release a patch that isn't FUBAR They only do it because they know it makes you emorage. The rest of us flip skills for the patch week blues and enjoy ourselves catching up on real life or whooring the forums. Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:56:00 - [23] I have many long term plans and I very much look forwards to eventualy getting them done. There are currently no other MMOs that offer me long term goals.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Opportunity Costs Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 10/12/2009 18:53:55 Some day I will be rich Some day I will fly an awesome ship Some day I will live in 0.0 Some day I will get to do proper PVP Some day I will forge a powerful empire ... ... ... TLDR: Some day I will enjoy this game every once in a while, a new thread is created whose title is like "tell me how to enjoy this game" or so. and frankly, I think most of players have questioned themselves something like that at least twice in their eve-lifes. is EVE a long desired dream that never comes true? like an awesome based game with many possibilites and too much potential, but empty of real enjoyment when translating it into real world playing? Discuss. Why don't you just get an awesome ship? Whay don't you just get inot 0.0? Why don't you do proper PVP? These things are ther, go and do them. The only limits are artifical limits that people impose on themseld due to their wierd mentality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion.	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:13:00 - [25] Its called goal oriented gameplay. Your supposed to enjoy the ride as you go. If you can't your probably playing the wrong game. Eves not for everyone, if you want to like it but can't maybe try jump-gate evolution when its out. Or perhaps unsubscribe for abit and wait for an expansion that has features you like. If you don't vote with your wallet how is a producer meant to know anything is wrong?
Psiri	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:35:00 - [26] After the first year, you really have no excuse not to be playing the game actively. If you haven't settled down for a ship or field that you like already, it shouldn't take you much longer than 3 months at most to do so. If you still find yourself not playing, quit.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.12.11 19:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Opportunity Costs Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 10/12/2009 18:53:55 Some day I will be rich Some day I will fly an awesome ship Some day I will live in 0.0 Some day I will get to do proper PVP Some day I will forge a powerful empire ... ... ... TLDR: Some day I will enjoy this game every once in a while, a new thread is created whose title is like "tell me how to enjoy this game" or so. and frankly, I think most of players have questioned themselves something like that at least twice in their eve-lifes. is EVE a long desired dream that never comes true? like an awesome based game with many possibilites and too much potential, but empty of real enjoyment when translating it into real world playing? Discuss. Once you free yourself of the idea that you you have to be the awesomest bestest MAX LEVEL END-GAME dude to have fun, then you will.
Ryhss Caldari Recalled Pleasure-Bots Sanctimony of Bellum	Posted - 2009.12.11 19:42:00 - [28] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Hoo Is Someday CCP will release a patch that isn't FUBAR They only do it because they know it makes you emorage. The rest of us flip skills for the patch week blues and enjoy ourselves catching up on real life or whooring the forums. QFT. I concur wholeheartedly.
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.11 19:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Opportunity Costs Some day I will be rich Some day I will fly an awesome ship Some day I will live in 0.0 Some day I will get to do proper PVP Some day I will forge a powerful empire Who's making these promises? EVE sure isn't. At best, EVE promises that you'll lose your money, your awesome ship, get kicked out of 0.0, get ganked and see your plans get ground to dust. The promises you're talking about are ones you make. So the only one who can fulfil them is you – the game sure won't do it for you. Quote: is EVE a long desired dream that never comes true? Depends what kind of goals and desires you set up for yourself – EVE offers neither. Yes, there are oodles of potential and possibilities, but you're the one who has to realise them Quote: TLDR: Some day I will enjoy this game Why not start now? Nothing is stopping you. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mydrial Jacor Amarr SniggWaffe Greater Pathetic Community	Posted - 2009.12.11 20:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Winterblink Enjoyed it from day 1, still do, always have, probably always will. Same. You get out of your game what you put in.

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