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Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2009.12.15 01:56:00 - [31] Originally by: Drab Cane I have never heard or seen anyone use "Cut and bait" or "cut bait" in place of cut and run. I hope this remains the case in the future, because it would invariably cause me to suffer, one way or the other. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Tiberizzle	Posted - 2009.12.15 02:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Empire Dweller How butthurt do you have to be before making a post about someones terminology seems like a good idea? [imaeg]www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg[/iamge]
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.12.15 02:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Tiberizzle It's ~~interesting~~ entirely expected that even including usage in plumbing, there are more matches for "source and sink" on Google than "faucet and sink": Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 21,000,000 for source and sink. (0.15 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 5,060,000 for faucet and sink. (0.31 seconds) I don't mean to suggest that Google search result counts carry any weight in answering a question of English usage, but assuming for a second that they did, how would you explain the following 'results' that appear to contradict your above 'results'? Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 214,000 for "source and sink". (0.43 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for "faucet and sink" (0.35 seconds) á á
Tiberizzle	Posted - 2009.12.15 02:51:00 - [34] Edited by: Tiberizzle on 15/12/2009 02:53:56 Originally by: Thoraemond Originally by: Tiberizzle It's ~~interesting~~ entirely expected that even including usage in plumbing, there are more matches for "source and sink" on Google than "faucet and sink": Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 21,000,000 for source and sink. (0.15 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 5,060,000 for faucet and sink. (0.31 seconds) I don't mean to suggest that Google search result counts carry any weight in answering a question of English usage, but assuming for a second that they did, how would you explain the following 'results' that appear to contradict your above 'results'? Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 214,000 for "source and sink". (0.43 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for "faucet and sink" (0.35 seconds) I'm pretty sure that determining an approximate frequency of usage in web-spiderable English literature qualifies as a valid exploration of... well, the frequency of usage of a word in English literature. Unfortunately, either by design or ignorance you seem to be searching for the exact phrases "source and sink", "faucet and sink" rather than pages that feature occurances of "sink" with "source" or "faucet". I hope I don't have to explain why you are encountering this behavior, or how it invalidates your results, but if you'd like you can sum them with the above results anyway. It changes the ratio by around 1%.
Joel McBeth Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership	Posted - 2009.12.15 02:52:00 - [35] Originally by: Thoraemond Originally by: Tiberizzle It's ~~interesting~~ entirely expected that even including usage in plumbing, there are more matches for "source and sink" on Google than "faucet and sink": Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 21,000,000 for source and sink. (0.15 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 5,060,000 for faucet and sink. (0.31 seconds) I don't mean to suggest that Google search result counts carry any weight in answering a question of English usage, but assuming for a second that they did, how would you explain the following 'results' that appear to contradict your above 'results'? Quote: Results 1 - 10 of about 214,000 for "source and sink". (0.43 seconds) Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for "faucet and sink" (0.35 seconds) I guarantee you that "faucet and sink" will return mostly plumbing results and "source and sink" will be mostly in the context we are discussing. That most likely would be because people with the ability to use a computer don't use "faucet and sink" in any other context than plumbing. Also, I've never heard any one use faucet and sink in any non-plumbing context until I read this thread. Stating something it well accepted mainly on the Eve Forums is a good argument against using it considering its population consists mainly of trolls and idiots.
Remus Kurgan Caldari	Posted - 2009.12.15 04:09:00 - [36] Is this really a thread? Speaking of which, someone should check the definition of thread, I think we're using it wrong.
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2009.12.15 04:17:00 - [37] Edited by: Thoraemond on 15/12/2009 04:18:15 Edit: Simple typo. Originally by: Remus Kurgan Is this really a thread? Speaking of which, someone should check the definition of thread, I think we're using it wrong. Zing! I hope the OP doesn't notice that! Originally by: Tiberizzle I'm pretty sure that determining an approximate frequency of usage in web-spiderable English literature qualifies as a valid exploration of... well, the frequency of usage of a word in English literature. To be charitable, let's assume that you're right about that... now recall that frequency and correctness are not the same thing. You were writing about correctness previously. Your 'results' do not support your claim. And of course there's at least one other obvious problem in your comparison of search result counts. The word 'source' is much, much more common than the word 'faucet'. E.g., in the Project Gutenberg corpus (which is not definitive, but may be illustrative), the word 'source' occurs more than 100 times more frequently than the word 'faucet' (38005 occurrences per billion words vs. 377 occurrences per billion words). In a collection of contemporary TV, film and other scripts, the word 'source' occurs roughly 20 times more than the word 'faucet'. Given that, is it not surprising that frequency of results for "source and sink" is only four times that for "faucet and sink"? Unless sink is actually more closely associated with faucet than source... á á
Clementina Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.12.15 04:19:00 - [38] I've always used "Isk Fountain" and "Isk Sink" When talking about isk entering and leaving Eve. Of course the few times I've had to think about heat engines I've used "Source of Hot" and "Source of Cold".
PostmasterGeneral Minmatar yo i'm posting	Posted - 2009.12.15 07:31:00 - [39] yo the OP is a faucet of inanity
Ansala Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.15 18:19:00 - [40] But, wait. Then, isn't "sink" inaccurate as well? At least when considering a "heat sink" since heat isn't really removed, just moved from one location to another, while isk "sink" total eliminates the isk.

Rhivre Caldari Built to Last	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:19:00 - [41] Wth is a faucet, and does anyone outside the US in the English speaking world use that word?
SetrakDark Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:24:00 - [42] This thread needs to die.
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2009.12.15 22:42:00 - [43] Edited by: Pantload on 15/12/2009 22:43:20 Edited by: Pantload on 15/12/2009 22:42:21 "Arguing with people on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d." - Unknown Author Enjoy edit It censored r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d! HAHA TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy corporations here
Joel McBeth Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership	Posted - 2009.12.16 01:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Ansala But, wait. Then, isn't "sink" inaccurate as well? At least when considering a "heat sink" since heat isn't really removed, just moved from one location to another, while isk "sink" total eliminates the isk. source: beginning; the place where something begins, where it springs into being; sink: a process that acts to absorb or remove energy or a substance from a system;
Hippopotamus Rex	Posted - 2009.12.16 01:52:00 - [45] Not sure that MD - which bastardizes financial terms on a daily basis - is the place to complain about a colloquial term for "source".
Melanie Rose	Posted - 2009.12.16 02:43:00 - [46] Originally by: Clementina Source of Cold God help us all......
Sinker1345	Posted - 2009.12.16 18:07:00 - [47] I think all of you have waay to much free time to be debating this.
Cheesestick Charlie	Posted - 2009.12.17 00:55:00 - [48] Originally by: Hippopotamus Rex Not sure that MD - which bastardizes financial terms on a daily basis - is the place to complain about a colloquial term for "source". I ARE INTERNET SPACESHIP BANKER!! Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki I vote for isk spigot. Seconded.


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