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Tiberizzle
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Posted - 2009.12.13 10:56:00 -
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http://www.synonym.com/antonym/sink/
Thank you, that is all.
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TigerXtrm
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:07:00 -
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How can something that stuff disappears into, be a source?
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Overdogs
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:19:00 -
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FAUCET
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Dasola
Minmatar Equitatus Of Apocalypse Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:28:00 -
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Might be engineering side where those comes. Electronics side: Current Source, Current Source --- We mine, we grind, we build, we destroy Always recruiting new industrial minded players, ingame contact: Dasola |

Mulligan Basti
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:29:00 -
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I think the word 'faucet' and the kitchen anomaly is funnier than the boring word 'source'.
Thumbs up for FAUCET
And for Tiger http://m-w.com/dictionary/antonym
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:34:00 -
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You might want to use something more extensive... http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/sink (Linkage)
Originally by: TigerXtrm How can something that stuff disappears into, be a source?
You are perhaps aware of what the word "antonym" means, yes ? No ? Hint : "the opposite/reverse/negative of".
As to the OP, yes, if you want to take it literally, then you could use "ISK source vs ISK sink". But then again a faucet _IS_ a particular type of source... so... yeah...
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Tiberizzle
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tiberizzle on 13/12/2009 11:53:30
Originally by: Dasola Might be engineering side where those comes. Electronics side: Current Source, Current Source
This. The only discipline where a "faucet" is the source being sinked is plumbing. It's not just electrical terminology, though. The dichotomy occurs throughout physical discourse ("heat source"/"heat sink", "energy source" / "energy sink", etc.) and there can be no mistaking the appropriate usage.
Originally by: Akita T As to the OP, yes, if you want to take it literally, then you could use "ISK source vs ISK sink". But then again a faucet _IS_ a particular type of source... so... yeah...
My bum is also a particular kind of source. Coincidentally enough, another source usually only a plumber has to worry about 
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:55:00 -
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If you want to get really technical, you could insist on "ISK generators" and "ISK annihilators" instead  It has the advantages of being both more accurate and cooler-sounding too 
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Tiberizzle
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:01:00 -
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I'd go for that. I just hate "faucet." Every time I read it in what's attempting otherwise to be a serious discussion I cringe. The context of usage tends to imply the poster actually believes it's the correct terminology, and that makes part of me die inside.
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:05:00 -
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Ratting and missions make up the majority of ISK rainbows in EVE.
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lui Kai on 13/12/2009 12:32:06
Originally by: Tiberizzle
My bum is also a particular kind of source.
Welp, you make a compelling argument. You've got my vote for calling isk sources "isk assholes" ----------------
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai Edited by: Lui Kai on 13/12/2009 12:32:06
Originally by: Tiberizzle
My bum is also a particular kind of source.
Welp, you make a compelling argument. You've got my vote for calling isk sources "isk assholes"
Oi oi!
Don't you use the source of haikus to describe ISK faucets. 
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RAW23
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Posted - 2009.12.13 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberizzle I just hate "faucet."
Me too. Those of us who speak the Queen's English tend not to be able to abide that ghastly americanism "faucet". The correct word is, of course, "tap".
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Hoodat Bee
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Posted - 2009.12.13 14:07:00 -
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isk lols into isk fails.
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Saint Germain
The Orthography Commandos
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Posted - 2009.12.13 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberizzle http://www.synonym.com/antonym/sink/
Thank you, that is all.
I think there can be more than one antonym.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.12.13 14:36:00 -
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We're not looking for antonyms of sink. Water pours out of a faucet and pours (and disappears into) a sink. In fact, since it is much like a stream of ISK, faucet would be appropriate. It just so happens to be a tap that the players can open and close themselves, in varying degrees.
http://www.mud.co.uk/dvw/themodeleconomy.html http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Economic_system http://mmorpgdesigntalk.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html http://www.raphkoster.com/2006/09/07/agc-mmo-economies/
Something tells me you're not going to get rid of the terminology any time soon. Even found a power point from an experienced game designer in that search. 
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Tiberizzle
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Posted - 2009.12.13 20:38:00 -
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This usage is kind of like referring to all cars as "Volkswagen Beetles" because you don't think the word car is cute enough. Sure, maybe there's enough ignorance on the Internet to perpetuate it, but I wouldn't hold up an experienced game designer as a credible source. We're talking about the same people that can't handle basic physical concepts such as force, acceleration, and transfer of momentum after all.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2009.12.13 21:20:00 -
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Troll-o-meter: 4/10.
Would read replies again.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.13 22:16:00 -
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My head spins 
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Exordium8
Minmatar Unknown-Entity
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Posted - 2009.12.13 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Julius Rigel Ratting and missions make up the majority of ISK rainbows in EVE.
The problem with 0.0 moons is they are passive isk rainbows that allow large alliances to make far too much money. --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload. When the going gets tou |
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.13 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Exordium8
Originally by: Julius Rigel Ratting and missions make up the majority of ISK rainbows in EVE.
The problem with 0.0 moons is they are passive isk rainbows that allow large alliances to make far too much money.
But they don't generate ISK. Missions and ratting do.
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Utemetsu
Caldari Humans from Earth
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Posted - 2009.12.13 23:29:00 -
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I thought Isk was spent on waffles and was generated on irons. Could be wrong though.
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Chiralos
Epitoth Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.14 02:14:00 -
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Agree but I don't see any way to force it. Amarr Victor. |

Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.12.14 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberizzle The antonym of 'sink' is 'source'. We're not in your [...] kitchen.
http://www.synonym.com/antonym/sink/
English is not a prescriptive language. 'Source' might be used more commonly and might perhaps even be slightly more precise or slightly more accurate, but that doesn't render 'tap' or 'faucet' wholly incorrect.
If you were illustrating the 'bathtub model' view of the New Eden economy, wouldn't even be tempted to a tap/faucet to depict a 'source'? I.e., rather than trying to draw an accurate and precise depiction of an 'ISK Source', whatever that might look like. á á
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Joel McBeth
Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership
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Posted - 2009.12.14 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: Tiberizzle The antonym of 'sink' is 'source'. We're not in your [...] kitchen.
http://www.synonym.com/antonym/sink/
English is not a prescriptive language. 'Source' might be used more commonly and might perhaps even be slightly more precise or slightly more accurate, but that doesn't render 'tap' or 'faucet' wholly incorrect.
If you were illustrating the 'bathtub model' view of the New Eden economy, wouldn't even be tempted to a tap/faucet to depict a 'source'? I.e., rather than trying to draw an accurate and precise depiction of an 'ISK Source', whatever that might look like.
You could use the 'bathtub model,' Lui Kai can use the '****ting in the sink model.' Then everyone else can use source and sink if they understand using consistent, widely accepted, nonarbitrary terminology adds to credibility and ease of understanding.
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.12.14 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joel McBeth You could use the 'bathtub model,' Lui Kai can use the '****ting in the sink model.' Then everyone else can use source and sink if they understand using consistent, widely accepted, nonarbitrary terminology adds to credibility and ease of understanding.
By my examples above, faucet is widely accepted terminology, at the very least when discussing MMO economic systems, and the terminology is not inconsistant.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2009.12.14 21:41:00 -
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How dare you even attempt to edumacate these har forums. |

Empire Dweller
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.14 22:48:00 -
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How butthurt do you have to be before making a post about someones terminology seems like a good idea?
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2009.12.14 23:32:00 -
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I vote for isk spigot.
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Drab Cane
Carbenadium Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.15 00:29:00 -
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Personal opinion, faucet was not picked as the antonym of sink - sink was picked as a counterpart for faucet.
'Source', even from its strict definition, implies an uncontrolled generation. Whereas 'faucet' implies a source that can be turned off, turned on, and adjusted. Controlled. Water is used as an analogy for money and capital much more often than radiated heat.
'Isk faucet' (or tap, or valve) is intuitively more consistent with the connotative meaning used here.
What really chaffs my hide is the phrase "Cut bait" when used to mean 'leave a situation quickly'. Come on! The proper phrase is 'Cut and run', derived from when a ship had to leave it's anchorage point so quickly that it was better to cut the anchor line than to wait for the anchor to be hoisted.
Some fools got the phrase 'Either fish or cut bait' (meaning 'make up your mind and decide what you're going to do') with the 'cut and run' phrase, and it sends shivers down my spine every time I hear someone misuse it.
Anyhoo, I like "Isk rainbows".
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