infact, is it my imagination or does the topic of this thread pretty much mimic the current UK news story about jimmy carr?

How about you tell me how this didn't fail. I'm not saying that it wasn't a good idea, but what did happen, is that they broadcast-ed what they were doing, (while bragging their a**** off) and lost all the hard? earned ISK.

Now please tell me how this wasn't a fail.

Isn't this what is called an exploit?

So, in your reasoning, only 5 people were to blame for **** Germany, and everyone else was just along for the ride?

Loosing 4k asshats bent on abusing the game would most likely bring in 20000 more subscriptions.

people always cry about the 'sandbox' when other people play the 'sandbox' differently to them

'sandbox' isn't a synonym for 'the game as i want it'

also, 'sandbox' is a child's plaything, and are we not men? jade, you don't have to answer this.

Well, you're the one insisting that it IS a failure. So why don't you tell us how helping to fix a mechanic while also getting paid phat stacks of cash is a failure?

But they haven't got fat sacks of cash from this so....................... fail

And luckily its not my job to fix the game.

I have a problem to understand this whole claimed LP shop heist by Goons.

If I look at the items, which the Goons should have purchased in the Minmatar LP shop, they are not crashed yet. So either the Goons lied about the magnitude of their LP shop heist or they still have most of the items, they exchanged in the Fw shop in their hangars or have not exchanged the LPs in anything so far. This would lead to the next question: What will they do with it, if they really have it? Will we see Goon fleets with Republic fleet equipment and with +5 implants and hardwirings in their pods? Will they try to feed their stocks of RF items slowly in the market?

I also do not quite understand in general, what Goons do with their ISKs. We not know, how much money Goons really made out of FW shop manipulations. We do know exactly, they sit on a monopol of Tech. Surprisingly we do not see any of this ISK. Goons still fly the same crappy fleet set ups like a few months ago, while other alliances fly t3 and have still way more Supercapitals. Others also have of course ship reimbursement programs. In other words, the wealth does not reach the average Goon. Where is that money?

I have a problem to understand this whole claimed LP shop heist by Goons.

If I look at the items, which the Goons should have purchased in the Minmatar LP shop, they are not crashed yet. So either the Goons lied about the magnitude of their LP shop heist or they still have most of the items, they exchanged in the Fw shop in their hangars or have not exchanged the LPs in anything so far. This would lead to the next question: What will they do with it, if they really have it? Will we see Goon fleets with Republic fleet equipment and with +5 implants and hardwirings in their pods? Will they try to feed their stocks of RF items slowly in the market?

I also do not quite understand in general, what Goons do with their ISKs. We not know, how much money Goons really made out of FW shop manipulations. We do know exactly, they sit on a monopol of Tech. Surprisingly we do not see any of this ISK. Goons still fly the same crappy fleet set ups like a few months ago, while other alliances fly t3 and have still way more Supercapitals. Others also have of course ship reimbursement programs. In other words, the wealth does not reach the average Goon. Where is that money?

Switzerland

Switzerland

you mean like the Marcos Billions? I can live with that, because Switzerland confiscated them. Usually if dictators lose their power, Switzerland confiscates the money and either pays it to a legit new government or keep it silently in their wallet.


@ jade: that would mean what? They cashed in already or not? I would say, they did not cash in the most part of what they claim to have. The market history did not change much in the last days.

while we're on the subject: ccp please make it an option to buy multiples of a lp item

datacores will be artificially high forever just due to the hours of click-enterclick-enter you need to do

The answer to your question is that the goon leadership will be paying their eve subs with plex for about 17,000 years.

The answer to your question is that the goon leadership will be paying their eve subs with plex for about 17,000 years.

This quote from the op makes it pretty clear that there was a bug that "doubled the rewards" and though CCP patched the bug out "the damage was done" and the cabal had the "seed LP" for the scheme.

I guess there is a question (that only CCP can answer in their internal enquiry) of whether this bug was reported by the op at the time it was being used to gain the seed LP for the ongoing project.

Uo was arguably the best sandbox game ever until it was broken up into pieces. If you never experienced it, too bad for you.


So, in your reasoning, only 5 people were to blame for **** Germany, and everyone else was just along for the ride?

and so what? Loosing 4k asshats bent on abusing the game would most likely bring in 20000 more subscriptions. There is a difference between being competitive and what the goons are doing.
Short term pain long game.

Knowing Aryth, he will probably responsibly reinvest it.

My point is still, when do we see the fruits of this? I do not see anything. Neither I see goons fly better ships than before, nor I see i.e. Improved Implants for 40 mil. Same with Tech. I guess, the answer "Switzerland" was more right than the guy really thought. The money just gets sucked in the wallets of a couple guys, who are too rich anyways, kind of like the Marcus billions or Abachi billions etc.

You know, we can say its a bug, but we don't really actually know if it was a bug or if ccp just went "You know, double rewarding players doesn't make any sense, does it."

My point is still, when do we see the fruits of this? I do not see anything. Neither I see goons fly better ships than before, nor I see i.e. Improved Implants for 40 mil. Same with Tech. I guess, the answer "Switzerland" was more right than the guy really thought. The money just gets sucked in the wallets of a couple guys, who are too rich anyways, kind of like the Marcus billions or Abachi billions etc.

[quote=Carlos Aranda]
Are you implying that T3s are the "one and only ship needed for subcap SOV warfare because they're expensive"?

My point is still, when do we see the fruits of this? I do not see anything. Neither I see goons fly better ships than before, nor I see i.e. Improved Implants for 40 mil. Same with Tech. I guess, the answer "Switzerland" was more right than the guy really thought. The money just gets sucked in the wallets of a couple guys, who are too rich anyways, kind of like the Marcus billions or Abachi billions etc.

Who knows what goes on in the minds of such men? Maybe he will use it to buy plex and donate it to some relief fund.

They should not be expensiv, if you really are filfthy rich. Or you could upgrade the Maelstroms in Machariels. I.e. Snuff box fly a Machariel fleet without owning Tech moons or LP shop heist.

Confirming that buying a $200 keyboard is against the EULA.