So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?

IF that can be proven that they saw the leaked document - Can it be proven.

I just do not like Jade heh.

No, look everyone understands the problem except you. Blame your parents. You appear genetically incapable of anything beyond counting fingers and toes.

And that he/her profit was made before seeing the leaked doc, Now- can that be proven?

And that he/her profit was made before seeing the leaked doc, Now- can that be proven?

CCP reacted quickly and patched this out, but the damage was done (not that it really mattered since it would merely have delayed the inevitable); the cabal had our GÇ£seedGÇ¥ LP. From here on out, the next step was to manipulate the outcome of Faction Warfare to dictate the tier level of the Minmatar faction. In order to cash out our illicit LP, Minmatar had to keep tier 4. We bought them into the tier over and over, rebuying each time they lost it and dropped into T3; eventually, 2 mega purchases launched them into T5.

ItGÇÖs worth noting that the entire time, the :shobon: coalition of the terrible roleplayers and various other pubbies comprising the Minmatar faction thought they were doing this on their own. They were oblivious to the fact they would jump 50-70 points in a single hour. To the extent that anyone noticed at all, they attributed it to their own skill, clapping each other on the back in militia chat while the cabal laughed at them for being too stupid to notice what was literally under their noses. This also applied to Amarr. On a lark one of us went one morning and fully upgraded all 13 Amarr systems to level 5. The next day this was repeated along with the 2 systems they won from the day before, allowing the Amarr faction to finally hit T2. Of course they immediately lost it.

With the gloating out of the way, we can move on to describing the actual hole in detail. Note that because this document has been posted, the specific mechanism by which this all works has been patched.


In Inferno, a mechanic was added to award Loyalty Points (LP) based on the value of the ship that was killed. Implants, ship value, cargo, etc. The formula is as follows:

Formula

The GÇ£costGÇ¥ in this equation was CCPGÇÖs own metric, which you can see by opening your cargo window or your station hangars and looking in the bottom right of the window. Therein lies the heart of the break -- CCPGÇÖs item value calculation was very vulnerable to manipulation. If you picked the right item, loaded hundreds of thousands of them into a Badger, then blew it up in the context of Faction Warfare, you could generate as much LP as you want for practically no cost. As long as you did the math right, the result was foolproof.


The trick was to control the process. We enlisted dummy characters in opposite factions, loaded up valuable items into a hauler, murdered the haulers with each otherGÇÖs alts, scooped the wrecks, and kept exploding the dropped stacks until none remained. We then converted the LP weGÇÖd been rewarded back into items from the FW store. Needless to say, some of the items in the LP store rewarded enough isk when sold on the market that the haulersGÇÖ mass assisted euthanasia was a profitable enterprise.


The original babby step was to use hydromagnetic datacores. Hydrocores had a CCP Value of 317,000 ISK (pay attention to this number, because itGÇÖs important). When we bought Minmatar into Tier 4, we were rewarded with a 50% reduction in both LP and ISK cost of our purchases from their loyalty store, so one datacore from the LP store at Tier 4 cost 25 LP and 25,000 isk. When the hauler with the datacore inside was duly murdered by our Minmatar loyalist, it rewarded the murderer with 63.5 LP. Blowing up datacores in this manner grossed enough LP to cash out into implants (at 2000 ISK/LP) to cover the isk portion of the cost of the datacore, while still netting excess LP in the process. Essentially, we were able to convert ISK to LP at the rate of 1390 ISK per LP, then immediately sell the produced LP for 1.5 times what we paid. This process of turning LP items into more LP was given the terrible name of GÇ£dubsteppingGÇ¥ by Mynnna.

We initially used this to liquidate all of our highend mineral holdings and start printing isk. We netted tens of millions of LP worth tens of billions of ISK. However, a crucial patch to Eve nerfed us by making cargo that dropped not net any LP, seemingly wrecking the plan by cutting our LP rewards in half and making it unprofitable. Not discouraged, we went back to the drawing board.

So do you Goons coordinate the hand off of responses like a relay race or do you work it straight up as teams? Just smashing as many volleys as possible?

welcome to eve, the ultimate Nerd Soap Opera.

No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.

No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.

No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.

Paint, if that's your best troll on that, you should be ashamed of yourself. That's amateur league bullshit and I expect better of goons. You think that craptacular comeback would fly on 4chan? Something Awful?

No seriously, I worry for your mental health at this point. You seem to have a really loose grasp on reality. I don't like to repeat the obvious but seriously, you are a complete idiot.

No seriously, I worry for your mental health at this point. You seem to have a really loose grasp on reality. I don't like to repeat the obvious but seriously, you are a complete idiot.

seriously? rly? like rly rly srsly?

So, that means you're on the verge of collapsing into a human singularity then, you have so much mass?

Uh oh, FAT PERSON DETECTED. YOU MAD BRO? How does it feel to be unloved, unwated, and unrespected? Looks like you know HA HA HA FAT FEKER>

Paint, you've worked that angle before. You should know it has no bite. No pizazz. If you're going to troll me you need punch! Just calling me names shows you've got a weak hand. You need to TROLL not troll.

Uh oh, FAT PERSON DETECTED. YOU MAD BRO? How does it feel to be unloved, unwated, and unrespected? Looks like you know HA HA HA FAT FEKER>

seriously? rly? like rly rly srsly?

So really how fat are you?

you just can't get the rhythm down, can you?

I'm Sorry bro I will try to do better.

I really wish Mittens would butt in here. He's much better at this (usually) than most of tonight's contenders.

Goonswarm is getting rusty if this is their best trolling.