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Grut
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Posted - 2004.11.18 21:18:00 -
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With the amount of isk you get from an officer spawn dont be cheap, get a friend an apoc with a standard tank and another apoc remote repairing it can tank any spawn. Mostly harmless |

Grut
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Posted - 2004.11.18 21:18:00 -
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With the amount of isk you get from an officer spawn dont be cheap, get a friend an apoc with a standard tank and another apoc remote repairing it can tank any spawn. Mostly harmless |

KIAGumpy
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Send a 10mn crow in first and get all the npc go agro on it then get the other ships in and smack up the spawn.
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KIAGumpy
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Send a 10mn crow in first and get all the npc go agro on it then get the other ships in and smack up the spawn.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:52:00 -
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What's the obsession with tanking? Just kite it.
Crow idea is nice, but officers usually spawn with a fair amount of cruisers and ceptors. I wouldn't want to risk an inty accidentally running into one of those while orbitting. ---------------------------
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:52:00 -
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What's the obsession with tanking? Just kite it.
Crow idea is nice, but officers usually spawn with a fair amount of cruisers and ceptors. I wouldn't want to risk an inty accidentally running into one of those while orbitting. ---------------------------
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:21:00 -
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I have no experience whatsoever with Guristas but if I knew I was going to be fighting a Gurista officer I'd fit my Apoc like this:
8x Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse (or Dual Heavy Pulse 2), these slightly outdamage Mega Pulse and are far cheaper than named Mega Pulse or Mega Pulse 2, plus they use less cap and have better tracking
4x Cap Recharger 2
2x Large Named Rep 2x Kinetic Hardener 2x EM Hardener 1x CPR
I'd go in hoping for a win since I'd have no way to quickly kill the ceptors if I got into doo-doo. If you can squeaze on another Kinetic hardener it might make a difference. You'll probably have plenty of cap so the CPR I have there is an option, a Heatsink 2 or another hardener might be a better choice.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:21:00 -
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I have no experience whatsoever with Guristas but if I knew I was going to be fighting a Gurista officer I'd fit my Apoc like this:
8x Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse (or Dual Heavy Pulse 2), these slightly outdamage Mega Pulse and are far cheaper than named Mega Pulse or Mega Pulse 2, plus they use less cap and have better tracking
4x Cap Recharger 2
2x Large Named Rep 2x Kinetic Hardener 2x EM Hardener 1x CPR
I'd go in hoping for a win since I'd have no way to quickly kill the ceptors if I got into doo-doo. If you can squeaze on another Kinetic hardener it might make a difference. You'll probably have plenty of cap so the CPR I have there is an option, a Heatsink 2 or another hardener might be a better choice.
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:33:00 -
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While rep is a valid concern, u might wana try lookin at it from the flip side of the coin. I solo'd a 9m megatron officer a couple of days back in a megatron fitted with 5 nutrons 1 ion 2 cruise launchers, 4 t2 cap chargers, 2 lge reps (a sanchas and a serp) thermal and kino 55% hardners (1 of each) a rcu2 and 2 relays.
Yes the officers hurt like hell, but u dont need to tank there damage 4 long if u kill them quick
If u run 3 reps and 3 hardners i VERY much doubt u would have ennuf offence to actully be able to kill it anyway, they got very strong repair and unlimited cap to rep with, itd just be a matter of time till it wore u down
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:33:00 -
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While rep is a valid concern, u might wana try lookin at it from the flip side of the coin. I solo'd a 9m megatron officer a couple of days back in a megatron fitted with 5 nutrons 1 ion 2 cruise launchers, 4 t2 cap chargers, 2 lge reps (a sanchas and a serp) thermal and kino 55% hardners (1 of each) a rcu2 and 2 relays.
Yes the officers hurt like hell, but u dont need to tank there damage 4 long if u kill them quick
If u run 3 reps and 3 hardners i VERY much doubt u would have ennuf offence to actully be able to kill it anyway, they got very strong repair and unlimited cap to rep with, itd just be a matter of time till it wore u down
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:57:00 -
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Guys please read again, I plan on having a friend in a PURE TANK apoc do nothing but just sit there and take the damage, while me in a raven or megathron fitted for serious damage lay the smackdown on them
so the apoc doesn't needs to do any damage at all i just need to know how to get it to tank the officer spawn for long enough for me to take down the escort battleships and then the officer itself.
thanks for the views and tips though! and no i can't afford officer stuff  ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are |

Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:57:00 -
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Guys please read again, I plan on having a friend in a PURE TANK apoc do nothing but just sit there and take the damage, while me in a raven or megathron fitted for serious damage lay the smackdown on them
so the apoc doesn't needs to do any damage at all i just need to know how to get it to tank the officer spawn for long enough for me to take down the escort battleships and then the officer itself.
thanks for the views and tips though! and no i can't afford officer stuff  ------------------------------------------------ [b]One of science's alleged crime is revealing that our favourite, most reassuring stories about our place in the universe and how we came to be are |

Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 19/11/2004 07:19:17 Umm. If the Apoc doesn't need to do ANY damage at all, why not go with something nuts like...
8 Heavy Nosferatu 3 Cap Recharger 2 1 Heavy Cap Injector (and a whole cargohold full of cap 800 charges) 3 Large Armor Repairer 2 Thermal hardener 2 Kinetic hardener
And just keep pulling cap from the various battleships and stuff to keep you going?
edit: if your Raven pal comes close enough, you can even turn your nos onto him to pull more cap to keep you going, so he can help you tank it that way. Seeing as he won't be taking any damage, he can use something silly like 6 cap recharger II's in the mid slots, so he'll have plenty of cap for you to vamp.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 19/11/2004 07:19:17 Umm. If the Apoc doesn't need to do ANY damage at all, why not go with something nuts like...
8 Heavy Nosferatu 3 Cap Recharger 2 1 Heavy Cap Injector (and a whole cargohold full of cap 800 charges) 3 Large Armor Repairer 2 Thermal hardener 2 Kinetic hardener
And just keep pulling cap from the various battleships and stuff to keep you going?
edit: if your Raven pal comes close enough, you can even turn your nos onto him to pull more cap to keep you going, so he can help you tank it that way. Seeing as he won't be taking any damage, he can use something silly like 6 cap recharger II's in the mid slots, so he'll have plenty of cap for you to vamp.
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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 19/11/2004 07:18:07 forget about tanking them warp in pick one off warp out rinse repeat until all are dead.
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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 19/11/2004 07:18:07 forget about tanking them warp in pick one off warp out rinse repeat until all are dead.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:07:00 -
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The problem is still this. You canĘt keep up with the damage if you have them all at you.
There may be a way to take on the spawn if you are able to reduce the damage dealer really quick. Maybe nos to drain cap from NPC and cap t2 in mid. (you will need all the cap to run those 3 armor rep) 3 large named armor rep 2 kinetic and 1 thermal + 1 1600 plate (the best one).
Then you may be able to "suck" up the damage, but you will lose more armor than you can repair. So itĘs all about how much armor you can "lose", and how fast the raven reduces the damage output to the Apoc.
It may work, but if you have the isk to try it out, let me know how it turned out.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:07:00 -
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The problem is still this. You canĘt keep up with the damage if you have them all at you.
There may be a way to take on the spawn if you are able to reduce the damage dealer really quick. Maybe nos to drain cap from NPC and cap t2 in mid. (you will need all the cap to run those 3 armor rep) 3 large named armor rep 2 kinetic and 1 thermal + 1 1600 plate (the best one).
Then you may be able to "suck" up the damage, but you will lose more armor than you can repair. So itĘs all about how much armor you can "lose", and how fast the raven reduces the damage output to the Apoc.
It may work, but if you have the isk to try it out, let me know how it turned out.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:52:00 -
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best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:52:00 -
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best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
That was always my idea, use the Apoc's supierior tanking and the Arma's superior offense both as one single fighting platform. When I switched from the Arma to the Apoc I did tend to lose less ships (never lost an Apoc actually) but I could never get over the fact that I couldn't kill an Overlord in 25 seconds anymore.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
That was always my idea, use the Apoc's supierior tanking and the Arma's superior offense both as one single fighting platform. When I switched from the Arma to the Apoc I did tend to lose less ships (never lost an Apoc actually) but I could never get over the fact that I couldn't kill an Overlord in 25 seconds anymore.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:38:00 -
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ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed ( 3-6 apocs with 2 remote armour rep on all will solve spawns as well as chain em to hell an back )
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:38:00 -
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ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed ( 3-6 apocs with 2 remote armour rep on all will solve spawns as well as chain em to hell an back )
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
That is in big part due to the fact that those BS use lasers, which is relatively easy to armor tank. It would be harder, for example, to tank even just 2 guardian elders (1 million ones).
And an officer spawn is much harder to tank than just 3 BS.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
That is in big part due to the fact that those BS use lasers, which is relatively easy to armor tank. It would be harder, for example, to tank even just 2 guardian elders (1 million ones).
And an officer spawn is much harder to tank than just 3 BS.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
true,
apoc does have great cap / tanking power
But u have to agrea ppl talking about tanking an officer on there own is slight'ly greedy to say the least.
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
true,
apoc does have great cap / tanking power
But u have to agrea ppl talking about tanking an officer on there own is slight'ly greedy to say the least.
***** " MSDborris, " Baka!, Hentia! "
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