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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:30:00 -
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Hey guys, I was wondering if an Apoc running 2 large armor repairers(say 690-720 versions) with 2 kinetic and 1 thermic hardener would be able to tank the damage being dealt by Gurista officer spawns? Outfitted with cap relays, cap chargers and cap injectors if necessary, offense is secondary.
Would appreciate any advise as about how to go about it. Thanks. 
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:30:00 -
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Hey guys, I was wondering if an Apoc running 2 large armor repairers(say 690-720 versions) with 2 kinetic and 1 thermic hardener would be able to tank the damage being dealt by Gurista officer spawns? Outfitted with cap relays, cap chargers and cap injectors if necessary, offense is secondary.
Would appreciate any advise as about how to go about it. Thanks.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:33:00 -
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Members of my corp will testify that in the case of Estamel. No.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:33:00 -
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Members of my corp will testify that in the case of Estamel. No.
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:37:00 -
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Ouch.
What about 2 larges and 1 medium tech 2? 
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:37:00 -
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Ouch.
What about 2 larges and 1 medium tech 2?
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:42:00 -
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You will die with a lot of cap left. If you could run 3 large armor rep (720 or better) and have at least 80% res on kinetic and thermal (you can have a bit less on thermal) then and only then you may will be able to tank the damage. But I really doubt it. The damage there spawn can dish out is tremendous. In an Apoc you can tank 1 Bs / large rep (720 ones) if you have 2 thermal 1 kinetic hardener. (If you facing hybrid rats). ThatÆs the ônormö with ôsafeö tanking.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:42:00 -
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You will die with a lot of cap left. If you could run 3 large armor rep (720 or better) and have at least 80% res on kinetic and thermal (you can have a bit less on thermal) then and only then you may will be able to tank the damage. But I really doubt it. The damage there spawn can dish out is tremendous. In an Apoc you can tank 1 Bs / large rep (720 ones) if you have 2 thermal 1 kinetic hardener. (If you facing hybrid rats). ThatÆs the ônormö with ôsafeö tanking.
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:44:00 -
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I tanked dual 1 million BS spawn in a dominix outfitted with 6 electrons and only 1 large armor repairer(660 version) pretty easily; only issue was cap, which lasted quite a long time even with webber/guns and the occasional MWD burst all on.
So I thought an apoc with a better cap and more reps would do much better in this aspect. Hmmmmmm
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:44:00 -
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I tanked dual 1 million BS spawn in a dominix outfitted with 6 electrons and only 1 large armor repairer(660 version) pretty easily; only issue was cap, which lasted quite a long time even with webber/guns and the occasional MWD burst all on.
So I thought an apoc with a better cap and more reps would do much better in this aspect. Hmmmmmm
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:46:00 -
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Maybe 3 named large armor reps with 3 hardeners(2 kinetic and 1 thermic)? And 2 cap relays? Or switch out one relay for a medium tech 2 just in case? And have a cap injector on hand for tight situations...or maybe even 2 cap injectors. I dunno lol just speculating here. ANybody else got ideas? 
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:46:00 -
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Maybe 3 named large armor reps with 3 hardeners(2 kinetic and 1 thermic)? And 2 cap relays? Or switch out one relay for a medium tech 2 just in case? And have a cap injector on hand for tight situations...or maybe even 2 cap injectors. I dunno lol just speculating here. ANybody else got ideas?
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:59:00 -
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The problem here is not cap. ItÆs that the BS (Gruistan Officer) is pounding you like H and the 2 other BS they usually have with them. Then you donÆt have to forget that in many cases the small rats is the biggest worry.
So the sum is that your armor rep have a long cycle so even if you can calculate when to put them on (every 4 sec with 3) they will keep pounding you do peaces. And with 3 large armor reps you donÆt have that much power left to put guns to kill the spawn.
And you cap will dry out with 3 reps going on and hardners and guns.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 13:59:00 -
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The problem here is not cap. ItÆs that the BS (Gruistan Officer) is pounding you like H and the 2 other BS they usually have with them. Then you donÆt have to forget that in many cases the small rats is the biggest worry.
So the sum is that your armor rep have a long cycle so even if you can calculate when to put them on (every 4 sec with 3) they will keep pounding you do peaces. And with 3 large armor reps you donÆt have that much power left to put guns to kill the spawn.
And you cap will dry out with 3 reps going on and hardners and guns.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Zensunni DX
Maybe 3 named large armor reps with 3 hardeners(2 kinetic and 1 thermic)? And 2 cap relays? Or switch out one relay for a medium tech 2 just in case? And have a cap injector on hand for tight situations...or maybe even 2 cap injectors. I dunno lol just speculating here. ANybody else got ideas?
The only way I see to tank such a spawn would be to have 3-4 buddies in support cruisers repairing you, while you'd use 5-6 hardeners.
You have to understand that these officers spawns as a whole deal roughly the equivalent firepower of 5 to 8 battleships. IF (and that's a big IF) a assault version of Battelships come out one day, it MIGHT be possible to solo a spawn officer. For the moment don't even think about it 
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zensunni DX
Maybe 3 named large armor reps with 3 hardeners(2 kinetic and 1 thermic)? And 2 cap relays? Or switch out one relay for a medium tech 2 just in case? And have a cap injector on hand for tight situations...or maybe even 2 cap injectors. I dunno lol just speculating here. ANybody else got ideas?
The only way I see to tank such a spawn would be to have 3-4 buddies in support cruisers repairing you, while you'd use 5-6 hardeners.
You have to understand that these officers spawns as a whole deal roughly the equivalent firepower of 5 to 8 battleships. IF (and that's a big IF) a assault version of Battelships come out one day, it MIGHT be possible to solo a spawn officer. For the moment don't even think about it
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Simen Looswe
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:13:00 -
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3 large reps can be run forever on an apoc with nothing else fitted in mid and lowslots but t2 cap rechargers and caprelays. You will have no slots for resistance gear then. If you use a cap injector to sustain your cap running 3 large reps, you will run out of 800 charges in about 2-3 minutes.
If the officers really do so much dmg you will have to keep warping in and out or use support ship tactics.
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Simen Looswe
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:13:00 -
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3 large reps can be run forever on an apoc with nothing else fitted in mid and lowslots but t2 cap rechargers and caprelays. You will have no slots for resistance gear then. If you use a cap injector to sustain your cap running 3 large reps, you will run out of 800 charges in about 2-3 minutes.
If the officers really do so much dmg you will have to keep warping in and out or use support ship tactics.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:15:00 -
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You may kill it by using torpedos/cruis missiles and you always stay 100k from them. But you will have to pick of the small ones first and then the BS. But than again youÆre not in an Apoc. You need a raven with loads of missiles and really good rof missile launchers.
I have been 1 of 3 who took on one of those spawn. And 2 of us had to warp out and in to manage to repair armor. And that with 2 named armor rep and 80% resistance on kinetic and thermal.
So if you have a death wish, go ahead and try one out. But remember; keep a spear BS in hangar.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:15:00 -
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You may kill it by using torpedos/cruis missiles and you always stay 100k from them. But you will have to pick of the small ones first and then the BS. But than again youÆre not in an Apoc. You need a raven with loads of missiles and really good rof missile launchers.
I have been 1 of 3 who took on one of those spawn. And 2 of us had to warp out and in to manage to repair armor. And that with 2 named armor rep and 80% resistance on kinetic and thermal.
So if you have a death wish, go ahead and try one out. But remember; keep a spear BS in hangar.
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:35:00 -
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The main idea was I would be in either a Raven or Mega outfitted with damage mods, and my buddy would be in his trusty little apoc tanking the damage down like the tough cookie he is.
No way I'm going to try soloing an officer spawn anymore, been there and done that and I was in my pod faster before I could blink 
But it seems there's no way to tank an apoc against those spawns huh :(
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:35:00 -
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The main idea was I would be in either a Raven or Mega outfitted with damage mods, and my buddy would be in his trusty little apoc tanking the damage down like the tough cookie he is.
No way I'm going to try soloing an officer spawn anymore, been there and done that and I was in my pod faster before I could blink
But it seems there's no way to tank an apoc against those spawns huh :(
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:37:00 -
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you can tank officer alone.. problem is that there are other battleships present too. I would adivse you fit heat sink II instead of one cap relay and kill other guys fast first. That officer has optimal range of 50km.. so you won't get that much damage if you warp at 15km. It might be advisable you fit 6x mega pulse with multi and 2x siege launcher with juggernaut torps. (guristas - especially officers are most vulnerable to kinetic damage)
With such setup and close range you can kill guristas conquistador in about 15-20 seconds. Webifier is advisable too.. so they don't run out of range;)
Just strategize and warp out after each kill...
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:37:00 -
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you can tank officer alone.. problem is that there are other battleships present too. I would adivse you fit heat sink II instead of one cap relay and kill other guys fast first. That officer has optimal range of 50km.. so you won't get that much damage if you warp at 15km. It might be advisable you fit 6x mega pulse with multi and 2x siege launcher with juggernaut torps. (guristas - especially officers are most vulnerable to kinetic damage)
With such setup and close range you can kill guristas conquistador in about 15-20 seconds. Webifier is advisable too.. so they don't run out of range;)
Just strategize and warp out after each kill...
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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Ever heard of officer large armor reps?
one heals 1260 armor a cycle. get 2 or 3 of those and you set.
btw that will cost bout... 2.5 bill isk. lol
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.11.18 14:38:00 -
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Ever heard of officer large armor reps?
one heals 1260 armor a cycle. get 2 or 3 of those and you set.
btw that will cost bout... 2.5 bill isk. lol
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:14:00 -
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it IS possible to tank officers and their support in a apoc but u need 900hp reps and 55% hardeners.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:14:00 -
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it IS possible to tank officers and their support in a apoc but u need 900hp reps and 55% hardeners.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:54:00 -
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I'll chime in with the others about the possibility of tanking just the officer, but not the officer + escort BS's. A corp mate of mine tried to tank Estamel + 2 Scorps and lost his Dominix. I came in just before his ship exploded and managed to destroy the 2 Scorps while they were all focusing on taking him out, and I was then able to solo tank Estamel and destroy her. We both were in very sturdy armor tanked Dominixes set up for fighting Guristas.
It worked out in the end, though. The money from the sale of Estamels loot ended up being about 600% of the cost of his Dominix (not figuring insurance!).
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:54:00 -
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I'll chime in with the others about the possibility of tanking just the officer, but not the officer + escort BS's. A corp mate of mine tried to tank Estamel + 2 Scorps and lost his Dominix. I came in just before his ship exploded and managed to destroy the 2 Scorps while they were all focusing on taking him out, and I was then able to solo tank Estamel and destroy her. We both were in very sturdy armor tanked Dominixes set up for fighting Guristas.
It worked out in the end, though. The money from the sale of Estamels loot ended up being about 600% of the cost of his Dominix (not figuring insurance!).
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.11.18 21:18:00 -
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With the amount of isk you get from an officer spawn dont be cheap, get a friend an apoc with a standard tank and another apoc remote repairing it can tank any spawn.
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Grut
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Posted - 2004.11.18 21:18:00 -
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With the amount of isk you get from an officer spawn dont be cheap, get a friend an apoc with a standard tank and another apoc remote repairing it can tank any spawn.
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KIAGumpy
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Send a 10mn crow in first and get all the npc go agro on it then get the other ships in and smack up the spawn.
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KIAGumpy
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Posted - 2004.11.19 00:06:00 -
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Send a 10mn crow in first and get all the npc go agro on it then get the other ships in and smack up the spawn.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:52:00 -
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What's the obsession with tanking? Just kite it.
Crow idea is nice, but officers usually spawn with a fair amount of cruisers and ceptors. I wouldn't want to risk an inty accidentally running into one of those while orbitting.
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:52:00 -
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What's the obsession with tanking? Just kite it.
Crow idea is nice, but officers usually spawn with a fair amount of cruisers and ceptors. I wouldn't want to risk an inty accidentally running into one of those while orbitting.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:21:00 -
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I have no experience whatsoever with Guristas but if I knew I was going to be fighting a Gurista officer I'd fit my Apoc like this:
8x Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse (or Dual Heavy Pulse 2), these slightly outdamage Mega Pulse and are far cheaper than named Mega Pulse or Mega Pulse 2, plus they use less cap and have better tracking
4x Cap Recharger 2
2x Large Named Rep
2x Kinetic Hardener
2x EM Hardener
1x CPR
I'd go in hoping for a win since I'd have no way to quickly kill the ceptors if I got into doo-doo. If you can squeaze on another Kinetic hardener it might make a difference. You'll probably have plenty of cap so the CPR I have there is an option, a Heatsink 2 or another hardener might be a better choice.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:21:00 -
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I have no experience whatsoever with Guristas but if I knew I was going to be fighting a Gurista officer I'd fit my Apoc like this:
8x Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse (or Dual Heavy Pulse 2), these slightly outdamage Mega Pulse and are far cheaper than named Mega Pulse or Mega Pulse 2, plus they use less cap and have better tracking
4x Cap Recharger 2
2x Large Named Rep
2x Kinetic Hardener
2x EM Hardener
1x CPR
I'd go in hoping for a win since I'd have no way to quickly kill the ceptors if I got into doo-doo. If you can squeaze on another Kinetic hardener it might make a difference. You'll probably have plenty of cap so the CPR I have there is an option, a Heatsink 2 or another hardener might be a better choice.
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:33:00 -
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While rep is a valid concern, u might wana try lookin at it from the flip side of the coin. I solo'd a 9m megatron officer a couple of days back in a megatron fitted with 5 nutrons 1 ion 2 cruise launchers, 4 t2 cap chargers, 2 lge reps (a sanchas and a serp) thermal and kino 55% hardners (1 of each) a rcu2 and 2 relays.
Yes the officers hurt like hell, but u dont need to tank there damage 4 long if u kill them quick
If u run 3 reps and 3 hardners i VERY much doubt u would have ennuf offence to actully be able to kill it anyway, they got very strong repair and unlimited cap to rep with, itd just be a matter of time till it wore u down
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Nyk0n
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Posted - 2004.11.19 04:33:00 -
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While rep is a valid concern, u might wana try lookin at it from the flip side of the coin. I solo'd a 9m megatron officer a couple of days back in a megatron fitted with 5 nutrons 1 ion 2 cruise launchers, 4 t2 cap chargers, 2 lge reps (a sanchas and a serp) thermal and kino 55% hardners (1 of each) a rcu2 and 2 relays.
Yes the officers hurt like hell, but u dont need to tank there damage 4 long if u kill them quick
If u run 3 reps and 3 hardners i VERY much doubt u would have ennuf offence to actully be able to kill it anyway, they got very strong repair and unlimited cap to rep with, itd just be a matter of time till it wore u down
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:57:00 -
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Guys please read again, I plan on having a friend in a PURE TANK apoc do nothing but just sit there and take the damage, while me in a raven or megathron fitted for serious damage lay the smackdown on them
so the apoc doesn't needs to do any damage at all i just need to know how to get it to tank the officer spawn for long enough for me to take down the escort battleships and then the officer itself.
thanks for the views and tips though! and no i can't afford officer stuff
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Posted - 2004.11.19 05:57:00 -
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Guys please read again, I plan on having a friend in a PURE TANK apoc do nothing but just sit there and take the damage, while me in a raven or megathron fitted for serious damage lay the smackdown on them
so the apoc doesn't needs to do any damage at all i just need to know how to get it to tank the officer spawn for long enough for me to take down the escort battleships and then the officer itself.
thanks for the views and tips though! and no i can't afford officer stuff
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 19/11/2004 07:19:17
Umm. If the Apoc doesn't need to do ANY damage at all, why not go with something nuts like...
8 Heavy Nosferatu
3 Cap Recharger 2
1 Heavy Cap Injector (and a whole cargohold full of cap 800 charges)
3 Large Armor Repairer
2 Thermal hardener
2 Kinetic hardener
And just keep pulling cap from the various battleships and stuff to keep you going?
edit: if your Raven pal comes close enough, you can even turn your nos onto him to pull more cap to keep you going, so he can help you tank it that way. Seeing as he won't be taking any damage, he can use something silly like 6 cap recharger II's in the mid slots, so he'll have plenty of cap for you to vamp.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 19/11/2004 07:19:17
Umm. If the Apoc doesn't need to do ANY damage at all, why not go with something nuts like...
8 Heavy Nosferatu
3 Cap Recharger 2
1 Heavy Cap Injector (and a whole cargohold full of cap 800 charges)
3 Large Armor Repairer
2 Thermal hardener
2 Kinetic hardener
And just keep pulling cap from the various battleships and stuff to keep you going?
edit: if your Raven pal comes close enough, you can even turn your nos onto him to pull more cap to keep you going, so he can help you tank it that way. Seeing as he won't be taking any damage, he can use something silly like 6 cap recharger II's in the mid slots, so he'll have plenty of cap for you to vamp.
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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 19/11/2004 07:18:07
forget about tanking them warp in pick one off warp out rinse repeat until all are dead.
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Cracken
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Posted - 2004.11.19 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 19/11/2004 07:18:07
forget about tanking them warp in pick one off warp out rinse repeat until all are dead.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:07:00 -
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The problem is still this. You canÆt keep up with the damage if you have them all at you.
There may be a way to take on the spawn if you are able to reduce the damage dealer really quick.
Maybe nos to drain cap from NPC and cap t2 in mid. (you will need all the cap to run those 3 armor rep)
3 large named armor rep 2 kinetic and 1 thermal + 1 1600 plate (the best one).
Then you may be able to "suck" up the damage, but you will lose more armor than you can repair. So itÆs all about how much armor you can "lose", and how fast the raven reduces the damage output to the Apoc.
It may work, but if you have the isk to try it out, let me know how it turned out.
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ByBy Baby
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:07:00 -
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The problem is still this. You canÆt keep up with the damage if you have them all at you.
There may be a way to take on the spawn if you are able to reduce the damage dealer really quick.
Maybe nos to drain cap from NPC and cap t2 in mid. (you will need all the cap to run those 3 armor rep)
3 large named armor rep 2 kinetic and 1 thermal + 1 1600 plate (the best one).
Then you may be able to "suck" up the damage, but you will lose more armor than you can repair. So itÆs all about how much armor you can "lose", and how fast the raven reduces the damage output to the Apoc.
It may work, but if you have the isk to try it out, let me know how it turned out.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:52:00 -
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best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.19 10:52:00 -
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best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
That was always my idea, use the Apoc's supierior tanking and the Arma's superior offense both as one single fighting platform. When I switched from the Arma to the Apoc I did tend to lose less ships (never lost an Apoc actually) but I could never get over the fact that I couldn't kill an Overlord in 25 seconds anymore.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
best way of taking these babies doon would be a arma setup for damage, with 2 large reps... and a apoc running support with 3 remote repairers and 2 cap transporters, with small guns for the frigs...
remotes are VERY tasty bit of gear...
as for soloing, forget it.
d solo.
That was always my idea, use the Apoc's supierior tanking and the Arma's superior offense both as one single fighting platform. When I switched from the Arma to the Apoc I did tend to lose less ships (never lost an Apoc actually) but I could never get over the fact that I couldn't kill an Overlord in 25 seconds anymore.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:38:00 -
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ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed ( 3-6 apocs with 2 remote armour rep on all will solve spawns as well as chain em to hell an back )
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:38:00 -
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ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed ( 3-6 apocs with 2 remote armour rep on all will solve spawns as well as chain em to hell an back )
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.11.20 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
That is in big part due to the fact that those BS use lasers, which is relatively easy to armor tank. It would be harder, for example, to tank even just 2 guardian elders (1 million ones).
And an officer spawn is much harder to tank than just 3 BS.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
That is in big part due to the fact that those BS use lasers, which is relatively easy to armor tank. It would be harder, for example, to tank even just 2 guardian elders (1 million ones).
And an officer spawn is much harder to tank than just 3 BS.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
true,
apoc does have great cap / tanking power
But u have to agrea ppl talking about tanking an officer on there own is slight'ly greedy to say the least.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2004.11.20 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: MSDborris
ccp never meant for any bs spawn or officer spawn to be killed alone. so team work is needed
Are you sure about the BS spawn part because in an Apoc it's **** easy to take on 2x Overlords (1 mil) and 1x Tyrant (1.5 mil) with several cruiser/frig escorts.
true,
apoc does have great cap / tanking power
But u have to agrea ppl talking about tanking an officer on there own is slight'ly greedy to say the least.
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.20 13:09:00 -
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I wish some people would read before commenting.
First of all this isn't about soloing an officer spawn, it's about one guy working with another guy, one taking the role of the pure tank and the other taking the role of the pure damage doer. That is, my friend in an apoc soaking up all the damage when I'm in another ship set up for maximum damage against said NPC spawns.
Secondly, those who say it's not meant to be soloed is totally missing the point. Humans were never meant to fly as well, no?  And this isn't really soloing, just a tanking set up without damage output designed to soak the damage long enough for a mate to lay the smackdown.
Good discussion though, many interesting views 
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Zensunni DX
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Posted - 2004.11.20 13:09:00 -
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I wish some people would read before commenting.
First of all this isn't about soloing an officer spawn, it's about one guy working with another guy, one taking the role of the pure tank and the other taking the role of the pure damage doer. That is, my friend in an apoc soaking up all the damage when I'm in another ship set up for maximum damage against said NPC spawns.
Secondly, those who say it's not meant to be soloed is totally missing the point. Humans were never meant to fly as well, no? And this isn't really soloing, just a tanking set up without damage output designed to soak the damage long enough for a mate to lay the smackdown.
Good discussion though, many interesting views
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