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Tyrone Bighams
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.01 06:29:00 -
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I know youre all gonna hate on me for this, but i was thinking that the brutix really doesnt work as built. its intended to be an armor tanker by teh ccps, so why would you see them running around with shield tanks unless there was a serious flaw?!
this stems from an obvious contradiction in the ship build. armor tanking slows ships far more than shield tanking does. typically, this would be all well and good, but when your spitting distance blasters do as much damage as throwing a paper ball at your opponent past said distence, getting in range is paramount. you just cant run armor and blasters easily, esspecially as armor eats up powergrid like a MOFO!!
thats why shields are the prefered form of protection on highscale pvp brutixes (brutii?)
but why not fit it for missiles?! it would do away with the range issue altogether without making ccp actually do anything that would require thought, like na overhaul of the hated hybrid system!!
In Actuality What Has Been Stated Applies More Directly To The Former Poster Than to Myself.
NO, U!!!
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Kher'Aleer
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.01 06:34:00 -
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I see what you did here.
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Theac Osiris
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Posted - 2010.01.01 06:35:00 -
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You obviously have no idea how to use the Brutix, or what it was designed to be, do you?
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Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.01.01 07:40:00 -
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Edited by: Akuma Tsukai on 01/01/2010 07:40:32
/signed
It is in theory that brutix, myrm and "dildo" hype are armot tankers. In RL due to active armor tank sucking harder then Bush jr. their rep bonus means nothing and must be ingnored. Fit them as blaster glass cannons or shield tank them and be happy.
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saango0
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Posted - 2010.01.01 08:50:00 -
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ha ha haa... 2/10- expecting a more creative troll m8
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2010.01.01 09:03:00 -
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O/
I'm one of the make the maller and prophecy into khanid boats crowd.
But talking about the brutix. If you active tank it and don't rig its armor its reasonably fast for a battlecruiser. Which means you can eventually close to blaster range against slow guys and things that have been tackled. It still sucks. Its not fast enough to close quickly even with no buffer and no rigs. An active tank folds over to more than one or two guys firing on it. An active tank is slot intensive and takes all lowslots and really does require the rig slots to rep any worthwile ammount. Rigging then goes back to the too slow problem. Blasters advantage at extremely short range does not make up for their uselessness at all other ranges.
It goes on. Basically blasters suck. Active tanks suck. Active armor tanks particularly suck. Welcome to Gallente. On the other hand the droneboats are considered to be pretty solid.
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Susy Assulu
Caldari
Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2010.01.01 12:22:00 -
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I quite like my brutix with its active tankyness and the hype 
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.01.01 13:16:00 -
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Why hasn't your sig been nerfed yet? 
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.01 18:14:00 -
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I like my Brutix. If I want to fly an active-tanked BC that does good DPS and has a forgiving engagement envelope, I fly my Myrm instead.
The Brutix excels in any engagement that starts at zero and is one of the best station camping ships around, IMO. It's not good at gates or in roaming gangs. Every ship has its ups and downs, the Brutix is no different.
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Kent Reeves
Amarr
Violent Force Productions
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Posted - 2010.01.01 21:32:00 -
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Brutix needs to be changed just like other tier 1 BCs. The tier system should be removed sub-BS (ty Liang). However, Brutix fills a pretty good role in being a DPS monster/glass cannon. Maybe just change the armor rep bonus to a drone damage bonus or speed/AB/MWD bonus? At the end of the day the Brutix pilot can always say to himself, "well, at least it's not a Prophecy." |
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TimMc
Gallente
Extradition
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Posted - 2010.01.01 22:37:00 -
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Brutix is fine. Rep bonus could be replaced with falloff bonus, but I still think its fine as is.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.02 04:11:00 -
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 Originally by: TimMc
Brutix is fine. Rep bonus could be replaced with falloff bonus, but I still think its fine as is.
Rep bonus needs to be replaced by a ROF bonus. *Then* it'll be fixed. :)
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Tier 5 Battleships
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2010.01.02 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 02/01/2010 05:34:02
How does another damage bonus fix a ship which has the obvious problem of dying to fast due to problems like speed/range?
What a logic~~~
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Cracken
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.02 06:37:00 -
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I'd be all for an mwd speed bonus say the pretty standard 10% per level.
Or on an alternate thought maybe a sig. rad reduction per level say 15%.
The brutixes current problem is making it into range too apply the damage because of pulse lasers superior range while suffering very little in the damage department.
And it can't catch the cane on even footing the funny thing is the only thing the brutix isn't horrid against is a drake. Then it's a toss up.
So you can go about it 4 ways add more armor, add more resists, make it get too it's target faster, make it harder too hit on approach.
3 is easiest too implement while 4 still relies on pilot skill a bit.
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Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
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Posted - 2010.01.02 08:01:00 -
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Missiles? Sorry, no. Fly a Drake.
The only change I'd like to see made to the Brutix is to remove the armor rep bonus and give it something more useful.
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.02 13:36:00 -
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The Brutix is just fine, its the best of the tier 1 BC's
Fit it like a glass cannon with a DC as a tank, hell you can even triple polycarb it and fly it around like a Deimos that doesnt suck.
Yes, its active armor bonus is totally useless, but any usefull bonus would make it as good as a tier 2 BC.
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A Ingus
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Posted - 2010.01.02 14:50:00 -
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No. This would just further erode the racial differences in the game. We already have a Caldari pirate faction sporting a drone boat (maybe the best drone boat now) . And as others have said the Brutix is probably the best tier 1 BC as it is anyway (they all sorta suck when matched against their respective tier 2s). Now if you proposed some fix for all the tier 1 BCs that didn't involve radical alteration to the racial flavor in the game, you might find a better reception, from players and CCP.
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pHenomena1337
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:16:00 -
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dude wtf
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:31:00 -
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Solution: Don't fit a tank.
Gank brutix's spit out 900+dps, so just get plat insurance and a buddy and suicide gank.
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