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Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:31:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:also mint chip
Come on she's awesome
Mint chip is a dirty space **** and gives ALL female gamers a bad name. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
379
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:36:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:MotherMoon wrote:also mint chip
Come on she's awesome Mint chip is a dirty space **** and gives ALL female gamers a bad name.
It is unfortunate that you do not seem to like women.
But please refrain from using the forums to let us know about your issues with women.
You want fries with that? |
PinkKnife
Noir. Academy
Noir. Mercenary Group
182
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:42:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:MotherMoon wrote:also mint chip
Come on she's awesome Mint chip is a dirty space **** and gives ALL female gamers a bad name. It is unfortunate that you do not seem to like women. But please refrain from using the forums to let us know about your issues with women.
This seems to be the explanation for 95% of all the backlash in this thread. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
195
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Posted - 2012.07.27 22:40:00 -
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Natasha Fatality wrote:I know, I'm not really a girl, etc... Whatever. I am. I don't care to prove it to you. (How would I really accomplish that, anyway?)
/shrug
Are there any other chick-in-real-life players out there? I hear this game is mostly dudes.
Due to the high level of immaturity Eve brings to the table, no self-repecting woman would admit to the masses that they are indeed female. 
Troll value 1/10
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
555
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Posted - 2012.07.27 23:02:00 -
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Kryssare wrote:Im a guy but im gay, can i also please have some free isk?
As long as you keep your butt stories for your personal friends and don't come up crying you're not loved because *xenuria psycho feelings* I guess no one cares about your sexual choices, really, who cares?
Everyone understands or should at least, all it matter is that you have a happy life and doesn't matter what you do in your personal life, but if you become some kind of heavy weight about what your butt is capable of vs a girl and start being another heavy weight messing with heteros you know in the end you can't expect them to just look at you and say "hello".
I just can't stand this behaviour and can eve become kinda aggressive because most of those people don't know when to stop.
If some one tells you to move along "sry I'm hetero" just move on, if you do then you're just a good guy and we will have some drinks because I don't give a crap what you do with your rear the moment you enjoy your life and you act like someone else, if you don't understand and make your heavy weight insisting you're gonna get my fist and probably some kicks in the face. Unfortunately there are far too many of the second kind, that's what is becoming a serious problem for your own community.
In the end, all I have to say about this is that many if not most of those people just make them selves dislike/hate because of their own behaviour. It has nothing to do with racism, but protection from some perpetual aggression from those so claimed victims of their body, they should fill petitions to god instead of shitting on someone else shoes.
I'll probably get a ban for this but at least I said what I had in my hart about this stuff, being permanently bored by those people since my young age I just have really bad time standing close to. You guys should maybe change your behaviour to be better accepted, after all we're in 2012, even for an old troll like me.
This being said, I have gay friends that understood my "stuff" is girls and they never ever mess with that because I respect them as long as they respect me. And believe me we have kinda good laughs.
brb |
lanyaie
462
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Posted - 2012.07.27 23:31:00 -
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I'm not actually a female but I changed my gender with a operation done by brutor tribe.
Does that count?
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
230
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Posted - 2012.07.28 00:00:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Suqq Madiq wrote:MotherMoon wrote:also mint chip
Come on she's awesome Mint chip is a dirty space **** and gives ALL female gamers a bad name. It is unfortunate that you do not seem to like women. But please refrain from using the forums to let us know about your issues with women.
I love women. Short ones, fat ones, skinny ones and tall ones, they're allll good. What I don't like are dirty space sluts that use their gender to promote their gameplay, get a free ride and think they're superior because of it. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
555
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Posted - 2012.07.28 00:33:00 -
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You should actually spend less time with statistics and brainless stuff and I can assure you your pay would be the same as a guy.
Just in case you haven't figured out, we're in 2012 and unless you live with talibans women/man there's no difference at all unless you make it yourself.
brb |
Cpt Gobla
No Bullshit
Jokers Wild.
16
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Posted - 2012.07.28 08:30:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:You should actually spend less time with statistics and brainless stuff and I can assure you your pay would be the same as a guy. Just in case you haven't figured out, we're in 2012 and unless you live with talibans women/man there's no difference at all unless you make it yourself.
Wait? What?
Statistics is brainless stuff?
I'm very sorry to inform you but several decades of dedicated research has shown that anecdotal evidence, like your assurances, is utterly worthless when it comes to making any kind of statements about groups of people the size we're talking about here (populations).
That brainless stuff, or statistics, is exactly what has shown to be reliable when it comes to making statements about millions of people. But, ironically, it requires a decent amount of knowledge to understand fully. Terms like mean, standard deviation, variances, causality, significance levels and more need to be understood in order to grasp how exactly statistics come to be and thus what exactly they mean.
You're making the exact same error those feminists you're so annoyed by are making, extremism. They claim everything is disastrously wrong, you claim everything is perfectly right. Which any rational mind can hopefully immediately see as both being nonsense. Some things go wrong, some things go right. Reality isn't nearly as black and white as you apparently believe it to be.
If it was you'd be right though, statistics would be brainless stuff. But seeing as reality is crazy complex to say the least that means that statistics, in order to as accurately as possible reflect that reality, needs to be crazy complex as well and thus is about as far from brainless as possible. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
549
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:13:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote: [snip] And wait, how does a man taking a ****** job mean that they don't have privilege? Because odds are, statistically, that if a woman took that same job, she'd be paid less, and still suffer the same things. You really don't understand what that word means do you? Here, Read this.[self-quote snippy-snip] Wanting equal treatment, is not divine treatment. The fact that you think we are asking for it, illustrates what sexism inherently is. Heaven forbid (pun intended) women have equal rights, or minorities have a protected space outside of the default culture groups. Try, for just one minute to get out of your privilege bubble and think of what it is like being other people. So, would you like to continue in judging all (hell I'll be generous) 150 MILLION women in the U.S. alone based on the handful of bad experiences you've had with a tiny subset. With that last paragraph, you've rendered everything you've written in this thread rubbish. I'm sorry a girl broke your heart, it happens, people change, you're better off I'm sure.
Not true:
This comes from many years of simple observation. Experience too, but that happens to all of us. Some of us actually choose not to keep doing the same thing whilst expecting different results -- Einstein was right, you know.
No, I don't continue judging -- I simply apply the judgement I've come to pragmatically, and look elsewhere, is all. And yes, the fact that I won't go NA/Western anymore has often got me the response "You just can't handle a real woman!" Do these broken little princesses not see the incredible, sickening bigotry in this statement? Call them on it, and I guarantee you'll (if male) be called "sexist."
Yet I've never been called "sexist" by any non-NA woman, some of whom have gotten to know me and my views quite well, indeed.
And the privilege in those ****** jobs comes in the sense that woman aren't expected to have to take those jobs, whereas men are. How many female coal-miners have you ever seen? How many females have you seen for whom it's "take that coal-mining job, or face the dole/homelessness?"
Yeah, I thought so. That's the privilege right there.
"The neutrality of [the Glass ceiling article really should be] disputed" by the way. I might just do so, that's the beauty of Wikipedia
Anyway, you'll keep for now, troll. there's plenty of threads far more worthy of counter-trolling hereabouts than this one, do come join me! (Because it's fun!)
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
lSD Banhammer
2
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:23:00 -
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Thread lurked for lack of external genitalia. - lSD Banhammer |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
207
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:25:00 -
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Cadhla Ovsanna wrote:i have to make dinner soon, idk what to make :(
Calling it now...no girl would tolerate Avi for any length of time.....
"CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature." |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
443
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:49:00 -
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I'm a feminist and I have a ******* *****. Some of you are just morons.
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Johnson Johnson
UK Corp
RAZOR Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:56:00 -
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i've flown with alot of women, and apparently the only thing that seperates them from male capsuleers is they tend to steer clear of the forums
i wonder why |
two pi
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.07.29 12:39:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Noriko Satomi wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Xenuria wrote:
What you're biological sex is have little to no bearing on EVE.
But it's the topic of this thread, dude. I believe Xenuria is one of those attempting to redefine the word "gender" to actually mean "gender role" or "gender identity". The original definition of "gender" meant the same as the noun "sex" and when most people hear the word that's what they think. Often such a discussion becomes hyper-literal, and those with a common understanding of the language are accused (implicitly or explicitly) of intolerance. In truth the language is being deliberately blurred. It is my understanding that Xenuria chooses to identify with the societal gender role typically associated with a woman, while not actually being one genetically. That is a choice. I find the language engineering annoying however. It is often done to seek a confrontation, implicitly assigning roles of victim and offender. That's not a good way to have reasonable discussion about any matter, but, yes, that's just my opinion. NotSureIfTroll.jpg When you say Gender "meant" the same as the noun "sex", do you also realize how this exposes a fatal flaw in your argument? Homosexuality used to be in the DSM and "meant" that somebody was psychologically ill and sexually deviant. Your entire argument rests on the idea that just because something "was" that it "is" or still should be. When I talk about gender and topics related to that I am not on a mission to get people to argue or get upset. The goal is to enlighten and discuss things in a civilized fashion. I am female, my Identification indicates that I am Female and where I live there exist no laws against being Female. I am not attempting to redefine anything, I am pointing out that you are incorrect and either trying to troll or simply lack a proper education on the subject matter.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
449
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Posted - 2012.07.29 15:16:00 -
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two pi wrote:Xenuria wrote:Noriko Satomi wrote:Colonel Xaven wrote:Xenuria wrote:
What you're biological sex is have little to no bearing on EVE.
But it's the topic of this thread, dude. I believe Xenuria is one of those attempting to redefine the word "gender" to actually mean "gender role" or "gender identity". The original definition of "gender" meant the same as the noun "sex" and when most people hear the word that's what they think. Often such a discussion becomes hyper-literal, and those with a common understanding of the language are accused (implicitly or explicitly) of intolerance. In truth the language is being deliberately blurred. It is my understanding that Xenuria chooses to identify with the societal gender role typically associated with a woman, while not actually being one genetically. That is a choice. I find the language engineering annoying however. It is often done to seek a confrontation, implicitly assigning roles of victim and offender. That's not a good way to have reasonable discussion about any matter, but, yes, that's just my opinion. NotSureIfTroll.jpg When you say Gender "meant" the same as the noun "sex", do you also realize how this exposes a fatal flaw in your argument? Homosexuality used to be in the DSM and "meant" that somebody was psychologically ill and sexually deviant. Your entire argument rests on the idea that just because something "was" that it "is" or still should be. When I talk about gender and topics related to that I am not on a mission to get people to argue or get upset. The goal is to enlighten and discuss things in a civilized fashion. I am female, my Identification indicates that I am Female and where I live there exist no laws against being Female. I am not attempting to redefine anything, I am pointing out that you are incorrect and either trying to troll or simply lack a proper education on the subject matter. ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.12 16:31:00 -
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This thread gets +10 ignorance about minorities and misogyny save for the decent chaps who have more than digital experience with women and possess the anatomy to not cut females down to make themselves feel better. Plus, there are some cool, rather mature, kids too.
BUT...
As far as announcing one's gender. I've only recently begun to be somewhat vocal about it.
WHY?
I've been in fleets that ****if I hadn't preemptively let boys recover from shock at a female voice ***** while others suspected voice hacks, half the fleet+ would have died, I suspect, with an unsuspecting girl providing intel during an op.
This is sad.
There are other reasons, but that's a start for now.
Otherwise, I'm just one of the guys in good fleet/corp.
P.S. If you send me gifts (just because I'm a girl) I'll send you a thank-you card and buy your destruction for I wouldn't waste my own time and ammo. |
Xavier Holtzman
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Fatal Ascension
38
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Posted - 2012.08.12 17:30:00 -
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Natasha Fatality wrote:I know, I'm not really a girl, etc... Whatever. I am. I don't care to prove it to you. (How would I really accomplish that, anyway?)
/shrug
Are there any other chick-in-real-life players out there? I hear this game is mostly dudes.
I used to work at the largest state run psychiatric hospital in Michigan. This is what we would refer to as "attention seeking behavior." And, oddly enough, 95% of the time, the person who was seeking attention was a woman.
True story. |
Conrad Lionhart
FACTION Inc.
Broken Toys
5
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:53:00 -
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In almost every MMO I play + Diablo 3, females are the only "minority" that feels the need to create these threads, for whatever reason.
Never mind the fact that some posts by obvious males already hint that, how in the world can you tell whether someone is really male or female on the Internet? What purpose does this thread serve? You will never be able to tell who the real females are.
Isn't it enough to just be a gamer? Do you need to announce to the whole world that you are female? Is revealing your gender even needed to play the game? I never feel the need to reveal that I am asian because it is not a criteria to rat, do missions, trade, etc. |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
427
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:57:00 -
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99% of eve's player base are girls......hah!
Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
1805
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Posted - 2012.08.12 18:59:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote:As far as announcing one's gender. I've only recently begun to be somewhat vocal about it.
WHY?
This and this alone.
"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |
Raubrey
KBEAR LOGIC
25
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Posted - 2012.08.13 01:17:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Amarra Mandalin wrote:As far as announcing one's gender. I've only recently begun to be somewhat vocal about it.
WHY? This and this alone.
Since you've taken the post out of context as your defense, I'll correct you.
Amarra Mandalin wrote:
I've been in fleets that ****if I hadn't preemptively let boys recover from shock at a female voice ***** while others suspected voice hacks, half the fleet+ would have died, I suspect, with an unsuspecting girl providing intel during an op.
This is sad.
This is factual and it speaks volumes. The corp in question has over 1000 members but some admitted that day (among other comments while in fleet) to never hearing a girl and the fleet was all cluster******* for a bit.
At the very least, this ^^ is disruptive. But what it really is, is much worse, and above the understanding of some unfortunate people.
I haven't even named a guy who was seriously out of line on another event because, ya know, I feel sorry for people who have difficulty interacting on a normal level in a social situation.
As far as typical guy behavior -- **** links etc. in Eve-- I just ignore that in a male-dominated game even though I know a fair contingent of men who are here to game, have families in the room possibly, and otherwise aren't fond of it either. This is a separate, but related, issue.
I can forgive immaturity and testosterone, but full-blown ignorance, myopic POVs and bigotry is not worth significant time of most logical people -- especially in a forum setting. It is wasted keystrokes.
I love Karma and its scientific equivalent and justice via publicity.
<><><>-á-á-á-á Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.-á-á-á <><><> |
Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
1853
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:12:00 -
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Raubrey wrote:Retraction: the post was liked by the poster, so apparently there is a misunderstanding of intent/meaning here so the reply is unnecessary.
That's what I wanted to say, just now.
I was, in fact, turning the comment around... I should have elaborated on that.
My meaning was: Why is it important to be vocal about ones gender?
I've been a gamer for years (longer then most of my, mostly male, freinds) and a roleplayer for even longer then that... and a real geek at heart. I can play a man character just as convincing as a female one. In the end, all that's important is that you enjoy the things you do... and don't spoil the fun of those you are playing with... no matter the gender.
"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
405
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:19:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Natasha Fatality wrote: (How would I really accomplish that, anyway?
/shrug
Teamspeak, maybe? Anyway there are _some_ females that play EVE but not many. Good luck with your quest.
I believe 5.8% of Eve players are female.
Saw it on one of the Eve information sites. Cannot remember which one.
You want fries with that? |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
496
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:20:00 -
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I know a couple of women that play EVE.
However I do not share that knowledge since alot of MMO players go apeshyte when they discover there is a chick playing a game they Like.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Raubrey
KBEAR LOGIC
25
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:33:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Raubrey wrote:Retraction: the post was liked by the poster, so apparently there is a misunderstanding of intent/meaning here so the reply is unnecessary. That's what I wanted to say, just now. I was, in fact, turning the comment around... I should have elaborated on that. My meaning was: Why is it important to be vocal about ones gender? I've been a gamer for years (longer then most of my, mostly male, freinds) and a roleplayer for even longer then that... and a real geek at heart. I can play a man character just as convincing as a female one. In the end, all that's important is that you enjoy the things you do... and don't spoil the fun of those you are playing with... no matter the gender.
Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for clarifying. I do see your point and agree with most of it. (I think I added a bit since you posted). But while it's fine with me to be one of the guys, per se, I've had to work really hard at it, at times. It is somewhat easier in that I'm older and don't do the damsel in distress routine. I was never wired to, either.
Hell, I have a Steam portfolio that rivals a lot of guys and probably has me on a government watch list. Most my friends are male and I usually don't care about the imbalance in Eve but some of the comments and links are frankly myopic, sexist, bigoted or misogynistic.
I have enjoyed many good fleets/times with some great *people* in Eve, but some of the stuff that goes on does get old. That people get defensive and make generalizations over a woman's POV doesn't help matters. It's like a white-collar Caucasian male or female protesting against "The Black (Jewish, Muslim or other) Experience." As if we really have a clue.
<><><>-á-á-á-á Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.-á-á-á <><><> |
Shalua Rui
FEROX AQUILA
1855
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:42:00 -
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Maybe it's a matter of perspective... I usually don't wanna be "one of the guys" 'cause I don't really enjoy things like fleet warfare or large scale battles... I'm a "carebear".
But I understand what you mean.
"I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way."
Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 |
Raubrey
KBEAR LOGIC
25
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Posted - 2012.08.13 06:49:00 -
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OK yeah. That explains A LOT. The PvP world is much different and most the Indy folks I know in Alliance stayed off of comms for their own sanity.
<><><>-á-á-á-á Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.-á-á-á <><><> |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
82
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Posted - 2012.08.13 08:34:00 -
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We have one active female pirate player in corp.
There should be more female gamers joining the light...-¦
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
17
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Posted - 2012.08.13 09:28:00 -
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Womyn Power wrote:
How does her/his gender influence in any way shape or form how you play with them or what they do in eve online?
Are we not reflections of our characters when in game? Does having a ***** make me better at mining or pvp? Does having a vagina?
What is the reasoning for gender on the internet, and specifically gender inside of a video game where it simply does not matter?
When I ask these questions, the only way you can possibly come to a logical conclusion, is the innate desire for attention that a female has - I'm not faulting her on this - I'm simply confused why, when met with such hostility when bringing it up every time, women like this continue to use video games as an outlet beyond having fun. What's the point of getting attention from other people playing video games based entirely on the fact of your gender?
I think you and people like you are why topics like this exist. Female gamers can sometimes be subjected to harsh treatment just for being female. Don't believe me? You have never paid attention to yourself. Grow up.
To the OP: MintChip seems really cool and she talks about her WGoE channel every now and then. I would suggest checking it out. If I were a girl I'd definitely do so. |
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