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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:13:00 -
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I have managed secondary trade of my own shares for a couple of months now. Apart from Jidsale, there has been regrettably little resale activity in that period. In the hope of aiding a larger and more dynamic secondary market in 2010, I will now begin monitoring any trade of shares on MD in this thread. It can serve as a manual stock exchange while we await the coming of an automated one *cough*.
It doesnĘt matter if people use this platform or not, I will simply record trades of shares here. You can use it as an overview of what is out there, and you can post in the thread to announce WTB and WTS shouts of any shares that are on the market.
I will list all known IPOs. Bonds will be listed if and when they are traded.
Some IPOs have their own webpage recording trades: (in progress)
Below are 5 posts that I will use to track other IPOs.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 03/01/2010 14:18:32
FLUX TECHNOLOGIES INC >10,000 shares sold in Jul 09 for 1 mil per share. Projected dividend was 13 %< Trades Nov 02: 1,000 shares @ 1m, Dibsi Dei sold to Breaker77
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IHATALO RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT 17 shares @ 1b - IHAFS Marquedios (Oct 26) Trades Dec 25: 1 share @ 1b, IHAFS Marquedios sold to Jadun
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 03/01/2010 14:19:56 JITA DIRECT SALE >200 shares sold on auctions in Nov and Dec 2009 for 40 mil and 44 mil. Dividend 10 mil per month, buyback guarantee 50 mil.< WTB ?? shares @ 70 mil - siNuskuRve (Dec 29) 6 shares @ 70 mil - Ashleelolz (Dec 23) 10 shares @ 52 mil - Anita Lazarin (Dec 02) WTS 3 shares @ 70 mil - Xaunt Rauber (Dec 22) Trades Nov 11: 10 shares @ 60 mil - Einear Lightfingers sold to Tsang Chou Dec 03: 3 shares @ 68 mil - Omega Tron sold to Xaunt Rauber Dec 16: 15 shares @ 60 mil - Investment Alt(Setrakdark) sold to Ballet Dec 17: 10 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to Zephyrlin Dec 17: 5 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to Nouva MacGyver Dec 17: 3 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to Roger Kiyosaki Dec 19: 3 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to InUrJita Dec 20: 4 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to Hotwalrus Dec 20: 3 shares @ 60 mil - Setrakdark sold to Zati Pasirga Dec 23: 3 shares @ 70 mil - RAW23 sold to Roger Kiyosaki
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 03/01/2010 14:21:30 LUCK YOURSELF INTO ISK > 35,000 shares sold @ 1mil in Oct 2009. Dividend is 88 % of profits.< Trades Dec 27: 1,000 shares @ 1.1m: Setrakdark sold to Seline Gylen Dec 29: 50 shares @ 1.15m: Dretzle Omega sold to SinusKurve
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SHIP-REP SERVICES >148,000 shares sold in Dec 2009 for 20,000 isk per share. Dividend is 100 % of profits. < Trades Dec 29: 10,000 shares @ 22,000 isk: Dretzle Omega sold to Nouva MacGyver
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cista2 on 03/01/2010 14:23:10
TASH-MURKON PRIME INDUSTRIES >49,000 shares were sold May 09 for 500,000 isk per share. Dividends are 33 % of profits<
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TITANS FOR YOU >204,000 shares sold in Jul 2009 for 1 mil per share. Dividend 90%(?) of profits< Trades Oct 17: 200 shares @ 1m isk: SencneS sold to Iaazy Oct 17: 800 shares @ 1m isk: SencneS sold to Phoebe Halliwell Oct 21: 100 shares @ 1m isk: Solisk sold to Furia Odio Oct 21: 100 shares @ 1m isk: Solisk sold to Ji Sama Oct 22: 2,000 shares @ 1m isk: Saehta sold to Ji Sama Oct 25: 400 shares @ 1m isk: Athre sold to eXistentiA Nov 3: 100 shares @ 1m isk: Dibsi Dei sold to Tyranus vonCarstein Nov 5: 900 shares @ 1m isk: Dibsi Dei sold to Ahalya Nov 21: 250 shares @ 1m isk: Icaly sold to Breaker77
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:15:00 -
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Vaygrr
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Posted - 2010.01.05 03:20:00 -
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WTB: Atima Industries shares x400 @ 10.2m/share. WTB: Ugly Toys Holdings shares x2500 @ 1.09m/share.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.06 07:29:00 -
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WTB 1,000 Titans4You shares at 700k isk.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:24:00 -
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Updated with some LYII and Jidsale announcements.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:26:00 -
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I'll put in some floor bids if people won't get crazy offended by it.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand I'll put in some floor bids if people won't get crazy offended by it.
It's a stock exchange, discussions of bids should be frowned upon and ignored imo.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand I'll put in some floor bids if people won't get crazy offended by it.
Yup, you are most welcome to set the bar 
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: Kalrand I'll put in some floor bids if people won't get crazy offended by it.
It's a stock exchange, discussions of bids should be frowned upon and ignored imo.
I've seen people get ****ed off if they see their stuff trading low.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand I've seen people get ****ed off if they see their stuff trading low.
Maybe in their own IPO threads I could see, but in a neutral exchange would be bad form imo.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand I've seen people get ****ed off if they see their stuff trading low.
Don't worry. When people set their business on shares they must brace themselves for whatever comes.
A funny thing I noticed when researching this was all the trades of Titans4You in the fall maintained issue value. If they ever sell a Titan I bet the shares will go through the roof 
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:10:00 -
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WTB:
BMBE: 10 shares @ 12,000,000 each
Ponzi Bonds: unlimited @ 75,000,000 per
IRD: 10,000 shares @ 5,250 per (I think you have one of their bonds above)
Ugly Toys: 1000 shares @ 500,000.00 per
Flux: 1000 shares @ 200,000 per
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Zephyrlin
Caldari Gangrel Mining and Security High Treason Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:31:00 -
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I have 10 JIDSALE shares I'm willing to let go for 75 million each. ----------
And God said... "Let there be lasers, and let them go... PEW! PEW! ...." |

Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cista2 A funny thing I noticed when researching this was all the trades of Titans4You in the fall maintained issue value. If they ever sell a Titan I bet the shares will go through the roof 
Until people realize it's been over 4 months since the IPO started and has yet to pay a dividend, and might still be awhile depending on the way it's looking. Though the longer it takes, the more likely I am to catch people needing ISK now and sell at a good price.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Cista2 A funny thing I noticed when researching this was all the trades of Titans4You in the fall maintained issue value. If they ever sell a Titan I bet the shares will go through the roof 
Until people realize it's been over 4 months since the IPO started and has yet to pay a dividend, and might still be awhile depending on the way it's looking. Though the longer it takes, the more likely I am to catch people needing ISK now and sell at a good price.
I actually think your price is spot on for them. The people above you in the WTB queue are bonkers.
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Simmonite
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:35:00 -
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Please take down my wtb ad of Jita Direct Shares. Also 3 shares of Jita D. purchased from Zephyrlin @ 75 Mil per.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.01.07 05:15:00 -
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Nice effort. How are trades verified? Do people evemail you the info?
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.07 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx How are trades verified? Do people evemail you the info?
No, the info is collected from the forum, typically both parties have confirmed a trade took place.
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Llu
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Posted - 2010.01.07 07:10:00 -
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Zephyrlin I'll take the final 7 @ 75MM each. I've transferred 551.25MM (7*75MM + the 5% fee for Cista2) to Cista2 for the transfer so please return the shares to Cista2, thank you very much.
Cista2, please remove my WTB order for Jita Direct Sales shares for now.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.07 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Llu I've transferred 551.25MM (7*75MM + the 5% fee for Cista2) to Cista2 for the transfer so please return the shares to Cista2, thank you very much.
Aha! I was wondering where that money came from all of a sudden, since I had deliberately just brought me wallet down to 0 isk in the same minute.
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Zephyrlin
Caldari Gangrel Mining and Security High Treason Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Llu Zephyrlin I'll take the final 7 @ 75MM each. I've transferred 551.25MM (7*75MM + the 5% fee for Cista2) to Cista2 for the transfer so please return the shares to Cista2, thank you very much.
Cista2, please remove my WTB order for Jita Direct Sales shares for now.
I'll transfer them as soon as I get home from work. About 4ish hours from now. ----------
And God said... "Let there be lasers, and let them go... PEW! PEW! ...." |

Zephyrlin
Caldari Gangrel Mining and Security High Treason Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.08 01:09:00 -
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Shares sent to Cista2 ----------
And God said... "Let there be lasers, and let them go... PEW! PEW! ...." |

Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.08 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyrlin Shares sent to Cista2
I sent 7 shares to Llu and 525 mil isk to Zephyrlin.
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Xaunt Rauber
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:25:00 -
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Apologies to everyone who has EVE Mailed me with regards to my Jidsale Shares, i've been having a break after a pretty horrdendous drunk loss, but i'm back now, and accepting offers for shares, convo me or EVE Mail me in-game to find out more.
I will only accept using Cista as the 3rd party, and will gladly pay the 5% fee.
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Cista2
Jita Direct Sale
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Posted - 2010.01.15 07:31:00 -
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Updated with new TMPI and Atima Industries shouts and trades.
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Nouva MacGyver
Caldari MacGyver Communications
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Posted - 2010.01.15 10:59:00 -
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Cista, thank you for the effort spent on gathering the data and for this thread. There's some things I personally wish I could see and perhaps already mentioned/thought by others, but for the life of me my knowledge for how it is to be implemented is laughable at best.
Would it be possible to have all this constantly (and manually) updated data over on to another site that allows it to be graphically structured with a more coherent page hierarchy and not restricted by the limitations of the forums? Assuming you are interested in keeping this alive, as more offerings are validated you're going to run out of space and for the end-user it can look like a mess to wade through. Idea-wise generally I was thinking along these lines:
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1) A "Summary" Page
This is the page where all companies and bonds are listed/added in an alphabetical order (could be simple text list? tabled?) along with a short caption of the nature of their venture/company (which is preferably thought up by the venture's manager and provided to the site). So for example:
Armada Ventures (Corporation) - Specialist armor repair resellers Broccoli Business (Corporation) - A mineral trading bond/corporation. Captain Obvious (Sole Proprietor) - "Currently running a catalyst building operation with public funding"
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2) Individual Corporation/Venture/etc pages
So on the "summary" page all the names of the corporation or individual will be linked to their own urls, which will show (maybe in sections, or perhaps tabled) for example:
Name of Business Corporation/Owner: Captain Obvious
Ventures: 1 - Destroyer Bonds 500mil/10% <- Linked to bond's thread in MD (10-Dec-2009 to 30-Dec-2009) <-Start/End date 2 - Destroyer Bonds II 2bil/10% (1-Jan-2010 - ongoing)
(Current) Buying: Mr. Buyer, 10 Shares at 10mil each | 5-Jan-2010 Mr. Scalper, 10 Shares at 10.1mil each | 5-Jan-2010
(Current) Selling: Mr. Seller, 5 Shares at 15mil each | 7-Jan-2010
Trade History: Mr. Undercut sold 5 shares at 14mil each to Mr. Anonymous | 31-Dec-2009 Mr. Bread sold 10 shares at 12mil to Mr. Crumbs | 5-Jan-2010 Mr. Bread sold 10 shares at 12mil to Mr. Cream | 6-Jan-2010
Notes: *Venture manager available as 3rd party trustee in event of share transfers. Contact him through evemail.
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So that's roughly the gist of it; Like a manual database. Which, in all likelihood, I think is something VERY tedious to keep up with for one person. Otherwise since I'm unknowledgeable in implementation I will not judge how easy or difficult this would be to pull off.
For anyone that have read this post (including you Cista) and have some thoughts/inputs, what do you think? Is this viable? Would it be possible to have an out-of-eve forums site support where perhaps restricted permissions (more secure, not so freely editable. Think wikipedia.) are given to the own venture managers after being verified by the site owner to update/input data into this manual database? Would anyone be interested in making something like this work for primarily the ease and enjoyment of end-users to secondary marketing in Eve? How complex or how simple should it be? What about costs? Upkeep? Effort required? Other ideas? Alternatives? Is something along a similar or (much welcomed) better vein by anyone or a group in the MD community already in place/being configured?
The modest aim of such a site I believe would be for it to be used as a very user-friendly secondary market portfolio summary page, with which more elaborate or relevant details are simply linked back to their MD threads (where people who then want to invest take their discussions to). A roadmap.
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