This is Spreadsheets Online after all.

We could possibly release this to TQ shortly as an "experimental feature", allowing you to scale to 125%, 150% and so on. We would get your feedback on it, expose some defects and polish it further and then some patches later take off the experimental feature label.

I don't agree with that, most of the flak CCP has been getting is related to unfinished and unpolished feature release, this will be another one to add to it, and eventually forgotten when resource allocation changes resulting in a never to be polished feature like many we have right now.

I rather a lot more to endure some downsides of this particular feature right now and have the confidence the work will continue as it set on feature adding milestones instead of not important category of bug fixing which are 2 different 'categories' in a development house, and we know how terrible it get's to pick up a not important bug fix in the long run.

CCP Punkturis,

I like the blog and I have a request and a question.

1. When you make font comparisons, please make the choice of the background colour scheme the same! It is very difficult to make a valid comparison when one is basically black/transparent an the other is kind of grey/translucent.

Please can you change the blog to show both font samples with the same colour scheme? If i had to choose one, I would go with the black scheme.

2. It feels that the new font has been 'streched' vertically somewhat, it makes reading it uncomfortable... very odd. Has the vertical to horizontal aspect ratio been tinkered with or is it just me?

Tedric.

CarbonUI, our new UI engine, supports this. We have it running in a rough state on our development branch. However, there are some issues with some sliders and icons being offset, since their position was encoded in absolute values as opposed to relative values. Nothing we can't fix.

We could possibly release this to TQ shortly as an "experimental feature", allowing you to scale to 125%, 150% and so on. We would get your feedback on it, expose some defects and polish it further and then some patches later take off the experimental feature label. We could also wait, finish it completely and then release it, but that would mean we'd get feedback later and be more late reacting to your feedback.

In any case, this is partially implemented and on the roadmap to be released.

Awwwww two great Dev blogs in a row! - I'm giddy! More of this stuff in development and as a blog.

+1

Thank you for this great news. There were times I had to get real close to the screen to read something. I hope the 9's and 8's will be a little more discernable too.

Any thought on whether these fonts would be made downloadable to use elsewhere?

For the love of God, please when you go changing things like this, give us the option to keep the old setting.

I hate the look of that font compared to the old one, and don't understand why you can't just give us a checkbox/drop down selection in our options to choose the font we use.

It is subjective whether it is better or not; I generally don't have an issue differentiating between the 6G& etc to be honest and when you make changes like this you should consider those who like or are used to the old way of things.

Make subjective changes OPTIONAL.

Dear god, you make wearing glasses sound like some kind of terrible affliction, really. Its good that there are fonts, but don't go crying about how wearing glasses makes your life so much worse. I wear glasses and contacts and I have never seen the world shrink before my very eyes.

I do like that eve now has a bigger better font, people will get used to it, change we can believe in!

Why couldnt you have added an extra paragraph in the previous dev blog saying that you have a new font. You just seem to be stringing this out just a little bit too much.

tbh, i could care less about a new font. You know what, i can open microsoft word and there are feckin loads of fonts in there, its not special.

Words dont fly my spaceships!

Not trolling and perhaps I am wrong.. I am not an optomitrist or a medical doctor.

I wonder how old you are ?

My understanding is that there is a very distinct change in the eyes at 40,, usually not 38.. it comes on quickly at 39 or 40 and goes continues for a few years from there.

My understanding is that POOR vision at a younger age is different.. you needed classes but you still had the abilty to quickly change your focus.

When you get older the problem isn't just your over all vision stregnth but the abilty to jump your eyes around and bring new things into focus and at different distances. Adjusting from 17 inches away to 26 inches (I've got mutiple monitors but even on one 24 inch there is a difference beetwen the distance of my face to the center of the screen and my face to the top right corner of more than a few inches takes time and glasses are designed to correct best at a certain distance....

Well anyway.. I hope that makes sense to you. If you had good vision up to 40 and needed subsequently worse glasses for a few years afterwords and find your glasses help you just as well at various differences, perhaps we do have different eyes.

Now we've simply licensed the Arial Unicode font and provide that with the EVE client, using it to render any characters not available in the EVE font.

it's good to see all the positive feedback here:)

Now we've simply licensed the Arial Unicode font and provide that with the EVE client, using it to render any characters not available in the EVE font.

Gee another person with glasses not reading carefully and figuring sense they can read fine there isn't an issue.

Short sidedness is not the same thing as what people get when they get older.

when you are younger and need glasses you have a genetically wrong focal point based on eye shape.

Vision loss due to age is because a portion of your eye hardens making it difficult to focus quickly and basically at all close up.


The experience of a 25 year old using glasses and doing just fine and an 45 year old using prescription glasses and struggling aren't the same.

There is a diferent underlying problem.

Hyperopia vs Presbyopia

if you want to "get" a sense of it, think of using a zoom lens on a camera with auto focus.. .. the lens correct for the distance but you still need to focu.. the auto focus slowly brings the image to focus.. thats what we experience.

Loooking up from a book or looking from one edge of the screen to another .. or to another monitor meens that i need to wait a bit before it sharpens up... and for older people

... and you will ALL experience this as you age

making improvements to font legibilty (and ideally as discussed by others, scaling size) is a very CORE , not cosmetic part of the game.

I 've been able to play fine.. but its a bother, a strain, and an uncessasary one.

And, I'm in the pong generation... a large portion of people who played when they're young are going to keep at it.. older players will be an increasing segment of the customer base as time goes on.

it's good to see all the positive feedback here:)

Seeing it on SISI I've enjoyed it overall. It's a more comfortable reading experience, 100%. It feels "large" sometimes, and I'm not sure if that's just my personal preference, or just something to get used to as time goes on. As personal preference, I could go for about 10% smaller size - I know there are plenty of other folks who would like it larger even.


There are still some places it still doesn't quite fight snuggly yet, or some things need to be adjusted. I'm sure these will be worked out during the *cough* QA.

i.e. : Character names in Chat aren't bolded, making it difficult to separate Characters from their Chat message.


There are some places, I think that the form of the interface is still molded to the old font which is less vertical - and there is a challenge there. I took a screenshot of some issues in the character sheet which I want to point it out.


http://flic.kr/p/asLwCm


Hope this helps - I couldn't find another official feedback thread, so hope this gets to you.