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clamslayer	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:26:00 - [1] So we are all stoked about how successful hulkageddon has been this year, its been just over 24 hours and there are more kills on the first day than i expected. I thought if it was a success there would be 500 exhumer kills at the end of the event. I expect the number to pass 1000 exhumer kills. So what does everyone think ccp will do to aid the high sec miner in being safer? We all know that the random killing of hulks will continue after the event and will add to the pile of petitions that are going to be made during this week. -I expect insurance to be changed, possibly a zero isk payout to pilots killed by concord, or a partial payout -Security status hits may be sharpened -maneuverability of ships with -5 sec status pilots may get nerfed aswell who knows.. im just curious to know what my fellow "griefers" expect 8==(!)
Dacryphile	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:28:00 - [2] Ship destruction drives eve's economy, especially for miners. CCP is probably very happy with Hulkageddon II. Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
vixxxy	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:31:00 - [3] its good for the economy, but eve is a business, and like any other business its all about the money
clamslayer	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:37:00 - [4] ^^^agreed
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:40:00 - [5] Originally by: clamslayer So what does everyone think ccp will do to aid the high sec miner in being safer? Nothing? I mean the amount of damage being done this week will pretty much stop as soon as the event is over.. Within a month it'll be back to its normal level and people will have forgotten.. Till next year anyway.. What happened to my AF boost?
Ospie Core Impulse	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:42:00 - [6] Eh, miners not paying attention deserve to die anyway. Many many miners my corp's killed are either afk or definitely macro miners (i.e. even as we destroy every hulk in a belt with dessie gangs, the rest continue to mine away & continue with their macro!)
Medidranda Livoga	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:52:00 - [7] I don¦t see any reason for gankers to stop ganking exhumers. Expensive, helpless and ganking ships are super cheap. Just waiting until some alliance/s start rotating people to gank mission runners and miners, while replacing ships for free as well. I think you could pretty much freeze all major mission hubs like that if enough people started doing this... I¦m hoping they do.
Junko Togawa Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:54:00 - [8] I'm betting nothing changes. Most of the 'outcry' about it is manufactured by the participants to drum up attention. There's a slight chance it could tip the scales of the insurance argument towards getting payouts for losses to CONCORD nerfed or removed. Beyond that, like has been said, a lot of the kills are macro-miners. It's like a forest fire. Clears out old growth for new growth to come in and flourish. If sec hits and faction navy security are sharpened, I'll be surprised, but not shocked. And the epic lulz will ensue at the many whine and cheez threads to follow. Either way, doesn't affect me. I mine mission rats, not fuggen rocks.
clamslayer	Posted - 2010.01.08 00:54:00 - [9] ^^^and if they did ccp would be forced to do something... ccp's main goal is to generate money through active accounts, so they are going to keep the majority of the player base happy, and the majority is not the gankers
Harrigan VonStudly Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:10:00 - [10] I hope CCP leaves their hands out of it. And the carebears should watch what they wish for. Many want insurance payout for concord kills to cease. What happens when Joe Cool mission runner targets a ninja or a miner targets back a non aggro irritant in his mining space and they accidently an offensive module? Joe Cool mish runner ain't gonna be so happy losing his pimped out mish boat with no payout at all. Don't lie carebears. You're all to friggin' cheap to not insure a ship. No matter how expensive over the payout it may be. Cheap skate bastards. How about a message from CCP to carebears. Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU.
crashmatusow	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly I hope CCP leaves their hands out of it. And the carebears should watch what they wish for. Many want insurance payout for concord kills to cease. What happens when Joe Cool mission runner targets a ninja or a miner targets back a non aggro irritant in his mining space and they accidently an offensive module? Joe Cool mish runner ain't gonna be so happy losing his pimped out mish boat with no payout at all. Don't lie carebears. You're all to friggin' cheap to not insure a ship. No matter how expensive over the payout it may be. Cheap skate bastards. How about a message from CCP to carebears. Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU. cause they're totally isn't a warning when you try to attack someone without aggro.....
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:33:00 - [12] Originally by: crashmatusow Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly I hope CCP leaves their hands out of it. And the carebears should watch what they wish for. Many want insurance payout for concord kills to cease. What happens when Joe Cool mission runner targets a ninja or a miner targets back a non aggro irritant in his mining space and they accidently an offensive module? Joe Cool mish runner ain't gonna be so happy losing his pimped out mish boat with no payout at all. Don't lie carebears. You're all to friggin' cheap to not insure a ship. No matter how expensive over the payout it may be. Cheap skate bastards. How about a message from CCP to carebears. Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU. cause they're totally isn't a warning when you try to attack someone without aggro..... And yet mission runners do it.. Find a ninja and ask them how often.. Back in the day I used to managed to get about one concorded a week.. Damn good loot.. What happened to my AF boost?
Mary Bennet Caldari Alloyed Tritanium Bar And Grill	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:51:00 - [13] One big mechanic change I'm expecting to see is that in the future, there will only be allowed to excist a single forum thread on the subject. I mean funk's sake, we've got just about a full front page of nothing but Hulkageddon in C&P now.
clamslayer	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:52:00 - [14] ^^^its kinda of a big deal jackass
Ky'rena	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:54:00 - [15] Have to say all the reading of the Hulkageddon Threads has had me roflmao so much, love it. Being that said, i am a carebear per say as i mine and mission primarily in the game. I have not insured a ship in a long time. Such a waste of ISK vs what one gets out of it. So let them nerf it. I would just laugh that much harder when the missioner loses a ship as stated earlier in this thread. And now, where do i find a gank squad running in Domain to join?
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Mary Bennet One big mechanic change I'm expecting to see is that in the future, there will only be allowed to excist a single forum thread on the subject. I mean funk's sake, we've got just about a full front page of nothing but Hulkageddon in C&P now. It's better than bored trolls feeding each other. ~
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.01.08 01:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU. All these greifers should learn something about mining TBH.. Cant mine, so you kill.. What happened to my AF boost?
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.01.08 02:05:00 - [18] Originally by: clamslayer ^^^its kinda of a big deal jackass Of that were true, it wouldn't need all the shameless self promotion. --Vel Brand new year, same old attitude.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.01.08 02:10:00 - [19] Edited by: Helicity Boson on 08/01/2010 02:15:34 Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: clamslayer ^^^its kinda of a big deal jackass Of that were true, it wouldn't need all the shameless self promotion. perhaps, my promotion blitz seems to have paid off quite well, a lot of people are out having fun. instead of... you know, being on the forum being bitter because you didn't think of it first. edit: look ma, im famous! http://www.massively.com/2010/01/07/hulkageddon-ii-event-begins-in-eve-today-miners-despair/
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.01.08 02:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 08/01/2010 02:15:34 Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: clamslayer ^^^its kinda of a big deal jackass Of that were true, it wouldn't need all the shameless self promotion. perhaps, my promotion blitz seems to have paid off quite well, a lot of people are out having fun. instead of... you know, being on the forum being bitter because you didn't think of it first. edit: look ma, im famous! http://www.massively.com/2010/01/07/hulkageddon-ii-event-begins-in-eve-today-miners-despair/ I'm not bitter. Didn't you see my smiley? I made my Hulkageddon money already. Cleaned up a smallish mess in an ice field earlier. Might go back looking for more later. --Vel Brand new year, same old attitude.
Larkonis TrassIer Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2010.01.08 02:43:00 - [21] Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 08/01/2010 02:43:20 This is a pretty unsustainable level of gankage. A one off event funded by some wealthy PVPers and industrialists. There was a much more protracted and sustained effort made by the Goons last year (or was it the year before?). A short sharp shock to reinvigorate T2 production post dominion. Don't expect any changes.
Dacryphile	Posted - 2010.01.08 04:07:00 - [22] Even if they were to remove insurance payment from concordokkened ships, ganking a T2 fit Hulk with a half dozen destroyers will still be profitable. Originally by: Doc Robertson ...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
Slimy Worm Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.01.08 04:29:00 - [23] I hope they just do away with insurance. It doesn't make sense for the SCC to pay it back when you lose it through getting CONCORDed. But I doubt they'll nerf maneuverability of people with low sec status while in highsec. They've never lowered a player's stats based on his or her security status before. Plus the lowsec pirates would be in an uproar because it would make it artificially difficult for them to fly small, fast ships to other pockets of lowsec.
Selrid Miamarr Amarr	Posted - 2010.01.08 04:54:00 - [24] I think everyone is overrating the impact of this event. I have seen a lot of Hulks and Mackinaws still mining happily, and I have yet to even see a suicide gank, just one aftermath with concord in area. This is going through belt by belt in a system looking for rats and salvage. It's something that many people are talking about, but despite the killmail total, seems to have little overall impact. I wouldn't worry about nerfs unless the attacks increase dramatically.
Harrigan VonStudly Imperium Signal Corps Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.01.08 05:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU. All these greifers should learn something about mining TBH.. Cant mine, so you kill.. Mine? OMFG NO way! As for killing in a pvp game. Well, I guess that's our bad.
Ospie Core Impulse	Posted - 2010.01.08 05:39:00 - [26] Originally by: clamslayer ^^^and if they did ccp would be forced to do something... ccp's main goal is to generate money through active accounts, so they are going to keep the majority of the player base happy, and the majority is not the gankers The majority also aren't the ganked. Idiot. Most none-miners find this whole event quite amusing, even if they aren't participating. As for sec hits, doesn't affect many of us since we're already outlaw. Quote: Have to say all the reading of the Hulkageddon Threads has had me roflmao so much, love it. Being that said, i am a carebear per say as i mine and mission primarily in the game. I have not insured a ship in a long time. Such a waste of ISK vs what one gets out of it. So let them nerf it. I would just laugh that much harder when the missioner loses a ship as stated earlier in this thread. And now, where do i find a gank squad running in Domain to join? Contact someone in my corp, we're largely operating in tash-murkon atm, aiming to hit Domain over next couple of days :)
Archangel17	Posted - 2010.01.08 06:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Harrigan VonStudly Learn something about pvp to protect yourself and HTFU. All these greifers should learn something about mining TBH.. Cant mine, so you kill.. I hate to break it to you, but it requires no skill at all to mine. I used to mine and mission run and I can tell you I would have quit long ago had I not been introduced to pvp. Miners are usually just too afraid to pvp so will never become good at it.
Lucas Lucias	Posted - 2010.01.08 07:14:00 - [28] Its been amazing, and I say that as a carebear player or should I say a High Sec miner on my main, the only thing I would change is to not assign any Concord reaction to using targetted ECM to remove other players lock. If CCP did that then we would have at least the ability to do something about it. We wanted to fight, but the mechanics do not allow it, because we have to allow the first strike on the Hulk and it will get toasted anyway. At least with the ECM we could break their locks and reduce the DPS with luck.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.01.08 07:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Lucas Lucias Its been amazing, and I say that as a carebear player or should I say a High Sec miner on my main, the only thing I would change is to not assign any Concord reaction to using targetted ECM to remove other players lock. If CCP did that then we would have at least the ability to do something about it. We wanted to fight, but the mechanics do not allow it, because we have to allow the first strike on the Hulk and it will get toasted anyway. At least with the ECM we could break their locks and reduce the DPS with luck. Because allowing ECM doesn't have a single down side or greifing potential.. What happened to my AF boost?
Dracoknight Strategic Syndicate Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.01.08 07:41:00 - [30] Edited by: Dracoknight on 08/01/2010 07:41:44 Most likely i think CCP aint going to do ** about it, since this Event is doing some things like: - Killing off Macro miners, thus letting human players to join in the market - The economy around ships like Destroyers, Exhumers, Battleships and smartbombs currently flourish taking advantage of the huge losses and destruction - CCP loves destruction and flourishing economy and will not do anything - Mining will now be profitable for any survivors of the event and thus Tritanium will be once again sellable, also Chribba need to add "Hulkageddon" as a event in his Carebear simulator... yes i know you read this thread you mega-carebear! - IEEE will be happy to see how much fail fits there are and might have some new investigations during or after the event. - Helicity and shigsy get the Attention they want - Lotsa pirates and "griefers" get loads of godly prizes and ** - Entity is finally fogotten and is now not a scammer - Spank and Lana have a pillow fight - Lotsa people is going to supply us with ship fuel ( tears ), enough to keep it going until next year - Tear extraction services is going to live happily ever after - CCP Zyrg falls asleep - World Peace ____________________ I wish my Thorax could use missiles...

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