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Dentali	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:17:00 - [121] Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:24:54 Interesting as you had them on your teamspeak and you were working with them. Total stands, the mercenary corporations hired against VOTF are displayed in total loss here. Thats not what you guys got back from insurance, to tell the truth, VOTF only lost about 290 mil roughly in insurance costs, and that was all replaced by mods from NORAD corporations. Your corporation didnt loose 400 mil either, they lost about 170 mil + about 120 mil in insurance. That was mainly due to your elite class ships. VOTF is well aware of how MF was hired. Hell, we knew you guys were declaring war before you even started moving ammo. Actually... some of the members of our corporation know who you are getting contracts from before you ever even get the evemail.... interesting how that happens eh? Anywho, ive said all I need to say regarding this, you can disect what I posted all you want to. We did more damage that month than we have ever done in EVE. We totalled much more damage on NORAD than we did against you guys. So is said.
Dentali	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:17:00 - [122] Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:24:54 Interesting as you had them on your teamspeak and you were working with them. Total stands, the mercenary corporations hired against VOTF are displayed in total loss here. Thats not what you guys got back from insurance, to tell the truth, VOTF only lost about 290 mil roughly in insurance costs, and that was all replaced by mods from NORAD corporations. Your corporation didnt loose 400 mil either, they lost about 170 mil + about 120 mil in insurance. That was mainly due to your elite class ships. VOTF is well aware of how MF was hired. Hell, we knew you guys were declaring war before you even started moving ammo. Actually... some of the members of our corporation know who you are getting contracts from before you ever even get the evemail.... interesting how that happens eh? Anywho, ive said all I need to say regarding this, you can disect what I posted all you want to. We did more damage that month than we have ever done in EVE. We totalled much more damage on NORAD than we did against you guys. So is said.
Seleene	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:24:00 - [123] Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 09:31:09 Originally by: Dentali Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000. Dentali, MF were never considered part of the CLS defense force, at least not after our first nights of working with them. They simply did not fit in with our tactics or ideals. Their war against you lasted what? Three or four days? And they lost 1.5 billion is ships to you? Wow. Originally by: AvanCade Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it. I'm sorry, but I don't see the same thing you do. I see even odds or us being outnumbered in most places, especially once MF switched sides and the Revenge guys were swarming Karmic in Grinacanne to get his 'geddon scrambled. Oh well... Originally by: AvanCade Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here The convo in question was in relation to Xirtam losing his uninsured Tempest to sentry guns because of a CLS player who had recently left the corp. Cyvok offered to pay him for the loss and Xirt seemed less than thankful even tho Cyvok didn't have to give him a single ISK. The comment was made in reference to his ship, not his pod. Originally by: AvanCade All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month. Well, you can't please everyone but I'll take the good with the bad. I appreciate your vid reviews, Avan. You don't let politics get in the way and I respect that. Originally by: Myal Terego I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers! Myal, your last vid was a work of art. I'm very pleased you enjoyed mine even tho it was very different in format. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Seleene	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:24:00 - [124] Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 09:31:09 Originally by: Dentali Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000. Dentali, MF were never considered part of the CLS defense force, at least not after our first nights of working with them. They simply did not fit in with our tactics or ideals. Their war against you lasted what? Three or four days? And they lost 1.5 billion is ships to you? Wow. Originally by: AvanCade Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it. I'm sorry, but I don't see the same thing you do. I see even odds or us being outnumbered in most places, especially once MF switched sides and the Revenge guys were swarming Karmic in Grinacanne to get his 'geddon scrambled. Oh well... Originally by: AvanCade Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here The convo in question was in relation to Xirtam losing his uninsured Tempest to sentry guns because of a CLS player who had recently left the corp. Cyvok offered to pay him for the loss and Xirt seemed less than thankful even tho Cyvok didn't have to give him a single ISK. The comment was made in reference to his ship, not his pod. Originally by: AvanCade All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month. Well, you can't please everyone but I'll take the good with the bad. I appreciate your vid reviews, Avan. You don't let politics get in the way and I respect that. Originally by: Myal Terego I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers! Myal, your last vid was a work of art. I'm very pleased you enjoyed mine even tho it was very different in format. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Feyd Darkholme	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:30:00 - [125] Don't know what you slow people are complaining about... my download is a crisp 250k/s and should be done in about 5 minutes... I can't wait to see it, I love watching EVE vids, especially yours Sel. ---------------
Feyd Darkholme	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:30:00 - [126] Don't know what you slow people are complaining about... my download is a crisp 250k/s and should be done in about 5 minutes... I can't wait to see it, I love watching EVE vids, especially yours Sel. ---------------
Eleese	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:33:00 - [127] Truely awsome video as per usual, as for CLS retreating to 0.0 lmfao we had less people in xetic during that war then before the war. BDCI werent hired to kill votf they were hired to stop votf disrupting empire operations which they did i think we lost 1 battleship (really stupidly lost nothin bdci/sharks could do) and couple of others such as cruisers doing mission. other than that we only lost suicide frigs and the odd cruiser that we didnt care about. If the war had been purely 1 vs 1 , votf vs cls we certainly wouldnt have hired mercs. but CLS has been at war with more than 1 corp ever since its creation. At the time we had 4 CA corps declared on us plus 4 others. and at this moment we have 6+. i cant remember last time we were below 5. Votf are extremely good pvp corp and as we posted at the beginning we respected them and were honoured they felt it needed to declare war on us. And after the war we still respected them as good pvp'ers and majority (not all) as clean and honourable fighters. It was made clear that votf didnt respect us hiring mercs but frankly they didnt have the full facts of why we did so. Votf will see us in xetic space when they invade, and they will likewise see us in CA. But i will say one thing how many corps who hire mercs openly admit it, we didnt hide and say we didnt hire them, we openly said before they even declared war we were getting help. Surely its logical decision if you have money but not enough fighters for 8 wars... you pay mercs..... and i salute cyvok for boldly making that decision. Thanks BDCI and Shark for your professional and imo successful contract.Look forward to the next video
Eleese	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:33:00 - [128] Truely awsome video as per usual, as for CLS retreating to 0.0 lmfao we had less people in xetic during that war then before the war. BDCI werent hired to kill votf they were hired to stop votf disrupting empire operations which they did i think we lost 1 battleship (really stupidly lost nothin bdci/sharks could do) and couple of others such as cruisers doing mission. other than that we only lost suicide frigs and the odd cruiser that we didnt care about. If the war had been purely 1 vs 1 , votf vs cls we certainly wouldnt have hired mercs. but CLS has been at war with more than 1 corp ever since its creation. At the time we had 4 CA corps declared on us plus 4 others. and at this moment we have 6+. i cant remember last time we were below 5. Votf are extremely good pvp corp and as we posted at the beginning we respected them and were honoured they felt it needed to declare war on us. And after the war we still respected them as good pvp'ers and majority (not all) as clean and honourable fighters. It was made clear that votf didnt respect us hiring mercs but frankly they didnt have the full facts of why we did so. Votf will see us in xetic space when they invade, and they will likewise see us in CA. But i will say one thing how many corps who hire mercs openly admit it, we didnt hide and say we didnt hire them, we openly said before they even declared war we were getting help. Surely its logical decision if you have money but not enough fighters for 8 wars... you pay mercs..... and i salute cyvok for boldly making that decision. Thanks BDCI and Shark for your professional and imo successful contract.Look forward to the next video
sapage1	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:34:00 - [129] Originally by: Xulnaga Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie. I really donÆt give a <censored> that you got your ships replace it is the manner in which they have been replaced. As it states, very clearly in the rules for replacing ships that Ship will NOT be replaced due to client side lag. BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. My problem is with the GM that replaced these ships. If everyone in eve is not treated the same what is the point. I have tried to get an answer out of CCP as to why 2 Battleships where replaced due to client side lag but I have never received one. I really think that the GM that replaced your ships should be up for some sort of conduct review. If you statements about the Battleships being replaced due to lag are true. ___________________________________________________
sapage1	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:34:00 - [130] Originally by: Xulnaga Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie. I really donÆt give a <censored> that you got your ships replace it is the manner in which they have been replaced. As it states, very clearly in the rules for replacing ships that Ship will NOT be replaced due to client side lag. BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. My problem is with the GM that replaced these ships. If everyone in eve is not treated the same what is the point. I have tried to get an answer out of CCP as to why 2 Battleships where replaced due to client side lag but I have never received one. I really think that the GM that replaced your ships should be up for some sort of conduct review. If you statements about the Battleships being replaced due to lag are true. ___________________________________________________
Seleene	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:37:00 - [131] Originally by: sapage1 BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. No. It was not client side lag. If it was, the ships would not have been replaced, correct? Take it to the GMs, Sapage. waves hand This is not the thread you are looking for. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Seleene	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:37:00 - [132] Originally by: sapage1 BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. No. It was not client side lag. If it was, the ships would not have been replaced, correct? Take it to the GMs, Sapage. waves hand This is not the thread you are looking for. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Crohnx	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 - [133] Thats a very nice lookin video Selene and im glad i took part of that. Salute to all pilots who fought bravely in the war http://cls.killboard.net
Crohnx	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 - [134] Thats a very nice lookin video Selene and im glad i took part of that. Salute to all pilots who fought bravely in the war http://cls.killboard.net
Xulnaga	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 - [135] I don't know their complete server setup as I'm sure you don't....but....here it comes....it wasn't client side?
Xulnaga	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 - [136] I don't know their complete server setup as I'm sure you don't....but....here it comes....it wasn't client side?
Baghdad Xirtam	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:42:00 - [137] We lost no ships in this petty excuse for a war! The infidels never even damaged our armor! Because of their shame, they podded themselves in Ourapheh, Grinnacane, PF, and Yulai... They refused to engage but instead sacrificed their ships at our feet. Space was littered with the frozen corpses of traitorous bastards of BDCI and FRICK!!! Xirtam never lost his ship! Dentali killed every FRICK pilot three times! Burninator, Latex, and all the dogs of Body Count lost their ships repeatedly - they bought more clones in three weeks than all of Curse since inception!!! All this is true - I swear to you!
Baghdad Xirtam	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:42:00 - [138] We lost no ships in this petty excuse for a war! The infidels never even damaged our armor! Because of their shame, they podded themselves in Ourapheh, Grinnacane, PF, and Yulai... They refused to engage but instead sacrificed their ships at our feet. Space was littered with the frozen corpses of traitorous bastards of BDCI and FRICK!!! Xirtam never lost his ship! Dentali killed every FRICK pilot three times! Burninator, Latex, and all the dogs of Body Count lost their ships repeatedly - they bought more clones in three weeks than all of Curse since inception!!! All this is true - I swear to you!
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:45:00 - [139] That was awesome! I liked the very very ending a lot also. The only thing I could ask for is one of Waagaa's "dum de dum"'s. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:45:00 - [140] That was awesome! I liked the very very ending a lot also. The only thing I could ask for is one of Waagaa's "dum de dum"'s. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:50:00 - [141] Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. Continues downloading And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:50:00 - [142] Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. Continues downloading And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 - [143] Thank God Vanish gets cream out of pants. That video was awesome! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 - [144] Thank God Vanish gets cream out of pants. That video was awesome! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 - [145] Originally by: The Burninator Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. Continues downloading And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. I think my ego just got Tristan sized :) You were a fun 'oh crap its the burninator! cheese it! man lol --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 - [146] Originally by: The Burninator Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. Continues downloading And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. I think my ego just got Tristan sized :) You were a fun 'oh crap its the burninator! cheese it! man lol --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Feyd Darkholme	Posted - 2004.11.21 10:02:00 - [147] The official Joshua Calvert seal of approval... you can die happy now Sel. I just got done watching it myself, and I concur, spectacular... and please, make a feature length EVE vid next time. I am always left wanting more! ---------------
Feyd Darkholme	Posted - 2004.11.21 10:02:00 - [148] The official Joshua Calvert seal of approval... you can die happy now Sel. I just got done watching it myself, and I concur, spectacular... and please, make a feature length EVE vid next time. I am always left wanting more! ---------------
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.11.21 10:07:00 - [149] OMG dont give him ideas, LOL ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.
The Burninator	Posted - 2004.11.21 10:07:00 - [150] OMG dont give him ideas, LOL ---------------- BDCI Website - We solve problems.

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