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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 22/11/2004 16:45:40
Welcome to the largest, most bloody contract ever taken by BDCI and our mercenary associates FRICK.
Some quick history:
Earlier this year, BDCI took a contract to attack Celestial Horizon (CLS) in Empire. Our job was to spend a month just basically chasing down and disrupting any CLS activity. For those who were in CLS at the time, IÆm sure they can tell you it was not a fun experience. CLS was large, but still finding its feet in the EVE universe.
BDCI carried out the contract against CLS to the best of our ability. Finally, the new CEO, Cyvok, took control and met with me to discuss an end to the bloodshed. The video for that war can be found by clicking here.
The results of the war with CLS and the professional conduct on both sides were noted and contact was maintained between our two corps at an informal level for several months after.
CLS got bigger, more organized and, basically, made themselves a larger target to their enemies with each passing day. BDCI went on to form a Coalition with FRICK which yielded excellent results in following contracts against Everlasting Vendetta and The Merchant Marines.
The VOTF War
When VOTF declared war on CLS, I canÆt say I was surprised when Cyvok contacted me. He knew first hand what we could do and that we would not take such a contract lightly.
The war itself was far different than anything else weÆd attempted. Our job was more to protect CLS, not score maximum kills. Still, to do the job effectively we had to ensure that VOTF was properly ôdistractedö. The first night proved what we already knew: this was a Fleet War and the smaller ships would take a secondary role.
No problem.
VOTF was the most organized, deadly foe we have ever faced, yet it was obvious from the outset that they did not consider our coalition to be cause for concern. IÆd like to think that perception changed after the first few battles. A few of VOTFÆs pilots were very generous with their praise and it helped foster an atmosphere of respect between both sides.
Yet all of this asideà this is a vid from our side of the war. IÆve little doubt that it will be subject to scrutiny and outright flaming. I would like to state for the record that I did offer VOTF the opportunity to contribute footage to this video and it was ignored by one party and politely refused by another. So, I went with what I had and set out to tell the story of just how bloody a war in Empire can get when you have a group of equally bloodthirsty people gunning for each other.
While the video pretty much speaks for itself, to those who wish to think parts are somehow fabricated or embellished, I invite you to peruse the new BDCI Kill Boards. There are still a few bugs that DiemensionZ has assured me will soon be ironed out, but it is as accurate a reflection of our efforts as we can calculate. If VOTF has a kill mail for one of my or FRICKÆs pilots that is not on this kill board, feel free to eve mail it to me and I will be more than happy to update our records.
The Video
Folder û ôVOTF Warö. Size: 36.3 GB
That was where I started. I spent an hour here, three hours there over the last three weeks and finally an eight hour marathon last night. Why so long? Well, RL for one, and there were a lot of elements I didnÆt have and had to coordinate with a few other people.
WARNING - File size is 131MB!
I know itÆs a monster, but there is no way I could have split this in half. It would have ruined the flow of the movie and once you watch it IÆm sure you will agree. I hope you take the time to download it and are not disappointed.
Download
The link below will take you to BDCI's Video Download section on our public forums. Once there, right-click on the 'Download' button and 'save-as' to download it and view it from your hard drive. Feel free to look around the section and download some of our other vids as well!
BDCI Video û The VOTF War
UPDATE! - You guys busted our 80GB bandwidth limit in 24 hours! 
Leafo has now mirrored the vid as well. There are now three mirrors up now under the link above. Simply click on one and follow the instructions above. Thank you all for your interest and support! -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:32:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Seleene on 22/11/2004 16:45:40
Welcome to the largest, most bloody contract ever taken by BDCI and our mercenary associates FRICK.
Some quick history:
Earlier this year, BDCI took a contract to attack Celestial Horizon (CLS) in Empire. Our job was to spend a month just basically chasing down and disrupting any CLS activity. For those who were in CLS at the time, IÆm sure they can tell you it was not a fun experience. CLS was large, but still finding its feet in the EVE universe.
BDCI carried out the contract against CLS to the best of our ability. Finally, the new CEO, Cyvok, took control and met with me to discuss an end to the bloodshed. The video for that war can be found by clicking here.
The results of the war with CLS and the professional conduct on both sides were noted and contact was maintained between our two corps at an informal level for several months after.
CLS got bigger, more organized and, basically, made themselves a larger target to their enemies with each passing day. BDCI went on to form a Coalition with FRICK which yielded excellent results in following contracts against Everlasting Vendetta and The Merchant Marines.
The VOTF War
When VOTF declared war on CLS, I canÆt say I was surprised when Cyvok contacted me. He knew first hand what we could do and that we would not take such a contract lightly.
The war itself was far different than anything else weÆd attempted. Our job was more to protect CLS, not score maximum kills. Still, to do the job effectively we had to ensure that VOTF was properly ôdistractedö. The first night proved what we already knew: this was a Fleet War and the smaller ships would take a secondary role.
No problem.
VOTF was the most organized, deadly foe we have ever faced, yet it was obvious from the outset that they did not consider our coalition to be cause for concern. IÆd like to think that perception changed after the first few battles. A few of VOTFÆs pilots were very generous with their praise and it helped foster an atmosphere of respect between both sides.
Yet all of this asideà this is a vid from our side of the war. IÆve little doubt that it will be subject to scrutiny and outright flaming. I would like to state for the record that I did offer VOTF the opportunity to contribute footage to this video and it was ignored by one party and politely refused by another. So, I went with what I had and set out to tell the story of just how bloody a war in Empire can get when you have a group of equally bloodthirsty people gunning for each other.
While the video pretty much speaks for itself, to those who wish to think parts are somehow fabricated or embellished, I invite you to peruse the new BDCI Kill Boards. There are still a few bugs that DiemensionZ has assured me will soon be ironed out, but it is as accurate a reflection of our efforts as we can calculate. If VOTF has a kill mail for one of my or FRICKÆs pilots that is not on this kill board, feel free to eve mail it to me and I will be more than happy to update our records.
The Video
Folder û ôVOTF Warö. Size: 36.3 GB
That was where I started. I spent an hour here, three hours there over the last three weeks and finally an eight hour marathon last night. Why so long? Well, RL for one, and there were a lot of elements I didnÆt have and had to coordinate with a few other people.
WARNING - File size is 131MB!
I know itÆs a monster, but there is no way I could have split this in half. It would have ruined the flow of the movie and once you watch it IÆm sure you will agree. I hope you take the time to download it and are not disappointed.
Download
The link below will take you to BDCI's Video Download section on our public forums. Once there, right-click on the 'Download' button and 'save-as' to download it and view it from your hard drive. Feel free to look around the section and download some of our other vids as well!
BDCI Video û The VOTF War
UPDATE! - You guys busted our 80GB bandwidth limit in 24 hours! 
Leafo has now mirrored the vid as well. There are now three mirrors up now under the link above. Simply click on one and follow the instructions above. Thank you all for your interest and support! -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:37:00 -
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Utterly stunning video sel  You continue to set the standard in video production 
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:37:00 -
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Utterly stunning video sel  You continue to set the standard in video production 
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:42:00 -
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look forward to watching it. BTw i only like to be shown on videos from the left side ( it is my good side).
/me hopes he is on there. ___________________________________________________
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:42:00 -
[6]
look forward to watching it. BTw i only like to be shown on videos from the left side ( it is my good side).
/me hopes he is on there. ___________________________________________________
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:46:00 -
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Looking forward to watching it, as I'm sure you know Seleene.
*Mutters about crappy slow download server*

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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:46:00 -
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Looking forward to watching it, as I'm sure you know Seleene.
*Mutters about crappy slow download server*

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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Coasterbrian *Mutters about crappy slow download server* 
Must have something to do with the concept "Server being hammered", looking at the amount of views on this topic in the last 10 minutes...  ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Coasterbrian *Mutters about crappy slow download server* 
Must have something to do with the concept "Server being hammered", looking at the amount of views on this topic in the last 10 minutes...  ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:48:00 -
[11]
Huzzah for videos \ /
If these are anything like the last BCDI vid I saw then I'm in for another treat 
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:48:00 -
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Huzzah for videos \ /
If these are anything like the last BCDI vid I saw then I'm in for another treat 
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:48:00 -
[13]
Jebiaz this video blows the other BDCI videos away
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:48:00 -
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Jebiaz this video blows the other BDCI videos away
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Power
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:56:00 -
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Downloading now, hope its worth the hour wate
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Power
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:56:00 -
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Downloading now, hope its worth the hour wate
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Power Downloading now, hope its worth the hour wate
The server is getting slammed. 70+ downloads in the last 15 minutes. It's a pretty large pipe, but not with that many people on at once....  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:58:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Power Downloading now, hope its worth the hour wate
The server is getting slammed. 70+ downloads in the last 15 minutes. It's a pretty large pipe, but not with that many people on at once....  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:59:00 -
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18 kb/s =( mirror plz.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 00:59:00 -
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18 kb/s =( mirror plz.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Deovina
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:01:00 -
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im only getting 37kb out of 100mbit... :I
I'd love it watch it...
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Deovina
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:01:00 -
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im only getting 37kb out of 100mbit... :I
I'd love it watch it...
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 21/11/2004 01:17:51 If you have a bitorrent client, this might work better for you, be sure to keep your client open though, so we can all help eachother to get this downloaded :) My poor home connection isn't too big, but a lot of home connections is :)
*link killed seems like I didn't have the final-final-final of final version, sorry :) anyone else care to torrent if he has it 100%? =]* ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:12:00 -
[24]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 21/11/2004 01:17:51 If you have a bitorrent client, this might work better for you, be sure to keep your client open though, so we can all help eachother to get this downloaded :) My poor home connection isn't too big, but a lot of home connections is :)
*link killed seems like I didn't have the final-final-final of final version, sorry :) anyone else care to torrent if he has it 100%? =]* ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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aeti
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:24:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Deovina im only getting 37kb out of 100mbit... :I
I'd love it watch it...
better than my 7.75K/s :/
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aeti
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:24:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Deovina im only getting 37kb out of 100mbit... :I
I'd love it watch it...
better than my 7.75K/s :/
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:34:00 -
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26 KB/Sec Yuck. Those were some fun fights, when it was a fair fight and neither side was complaining.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:34:00 -
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26 KB/Sec Yuck. Those were some fun fights, when it was a fair fight and neither side was complaining.
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Vaio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:35:00 -
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really hope this movie worth the 4hour wait going 10kb/s :/ 
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Vaio
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:35:00 -
[30]
really hope this movie worth the 4hour wait going 10kb/s :/ 
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:41:00 -
[31]
Looking at how ur vid creating skills have evolved, I am very much looking for this vid 
/me wips server hamsters, "Faster damn u!"
ATUK Killboard | 5 Killboard
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:41:00 -
[32]
Looking at how ur vid creating skills have evolved, I am very much looking for this vid 
/me wips server hamsters, "Faster damn u!"
ATUK Killboard | 5 Killboard
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:42:00 -
[33]
best bdci vid yet
well worth the wait seleene...
but one complaint
my barbie girl song wasn't in it so that knocks off a point
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 01:42:00 -
[34]
best bdci vid yet
well worth the wait seleene...
but one complaint
my barbie girl song wasn't in it so that knocks off a point
www.dark-cartel.com |

sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:28:00 -
[35]
Edited by: sapage1 on 21/11/2004 02:34:56 I am abit confused, why did you not show many VOTF BS blowing up? Nice video btw.
Since you brough it up in your vid what were the BS to BS kill ratio. You said it was a 2.5:1 kill ratio was that in BS or support? ___________________________________________________
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: sapage1 on 21/11/2004 02:34:56 I am abit confused, why did you not show many VOTF BS blowing up? Nice video btw.
Since you brough it up in your vid what were the BS to BS kill ratio. You said it was a 2.5:1 kill ratio was that in BS or support? ___________________________________________________
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:29:00 -
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*****in video Seleene :)
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:29:00 -
[38]
*****in video Seleene :)
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:43:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 02:47:15
Originally by: sapage1 I am abit confused, why did you not show many VOTF BS blowing up?
Only had footage of five or six of them up close, but was actually more concerned with the vid overall. I did not want to make another vid of just one ship after another blowing up and tried to keep things interesting. 
Originally by: sapage1 Since you brough it up in your vid what were the BS to BS kill ratio. You said it was a 2.5:1 kill ratio was that in BS or support?
That was based on overall kills, excluding things like shuttles and noob ships, but I beleive the ratio would apply to BS kills as well. In terms of absolute numbers, if anyone is curious they can knock themselves out and count things up to their heart's content on the kill boards. Also, like I said, if you guys have a kill, or even a loss, that is not represented there, just mail it to me and I'll be happy to post it.  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:43:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 02:47:15
Originally by: sapage1 I am abit confused, why did you not show many VOTF BS blowing up?
Only had footage of five or six of them up close, but was actually more concerned with the vid overall. I did not want to make another vid of just one ship after another blowing up and tried to keep things interesting. 
Originally by: sapage1 Since you brough it up in your vid what were the BS to BS kill ratio. You said it was a 2.5:1 kill ratio was that in BS or support?
That was based on overall kills, excluding things like shuttles and noob ships, but I beleive the ratio would apply to BS kills as well. In terms of absolute numbers, if anyone is curious they can knock themselves out and count things up to their heart's content on the kill boards. Also, like I said, if you guys have a kill, or even a loss, that is not represented there, just mail it to me and I'll be happy to post it.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:01 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:53:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:01 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Jodax
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:59:00 -
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Truly amazing video Seleene, I loved it!
Please break your promise to never make such a long movie again, I'd like to see more like it.
Honor and Serve Jodax
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Jodax
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Posted - 2004.11.21 02:59:00 -
[44]
Truly amazing video Seleene, I loved it!
Please break your promise to never make such a long movie again, I'd like to see more like it.
Honor and Serve Jodax
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Charity Regard
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:07:00 -
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Quote: This is old news. The war was stupid. I could continue but seriously... not worth the time you spent over the last month or so on the video.
All of us should remember that anything you love to do is worth the time you spend doing it. Making movies is something Seleene loves doing and the community is better because of the efforts of everyone who spends time on such works.
Havent seen the vid yet Sel...but I am sure it is amazing as usual!
xOxo
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Charity Regard
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:07:00 -
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Quote: This is old news. The war was stupid. I could continue but seriously... not worth the time you spent over the last month or so on the video.
All of us should remember that anything you love to do is worth the time you spend doing it. Making movies is something Seleene loves doing and the community is better because of the efforts of everyone who spends time on such works.
Havent seen the vid yet Sel...but I am sure it is amazing as usual!
xOxo
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:07:00 -
[47]
Mee likes -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:07:00 -
[48]
Mee likes -------------------------------------------------> What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:29:00 -
[49]
oooo, you got Xirt's Tempest?
Nice 
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.11.21 03:29:00 -
[50]
oooo, you got Xirt's Tempest?
Nice 
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:14:00 -
[51]
Another Excellent Video, good job Sharks and BDCI.
If i ever wanted to join the dark side, i would hope to join one of your 2 corps  --------------- |

Angelhunter
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:14:00 -
[52]
Another Excellent Video, good job Sharks and BDCI.
If i ever wanted to join the dark side, i would hope to join one of your 2 corps  --------------- |

Canine Fiend
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:34:00 -
[53]
Having been on both sides of BDCI's guns, I can truly say that these guys are a great corp, and very honorable. The video is awesome Seleene, keep up the great work. ----------------------------------------------
Proud Member of Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Canine Fiend
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:34:00 -
[54]
Having been on both sides of BDCI's guns, I can truly say that these guys are a great corp, and very honorable. The video is awesome Seleene, keep up the great work. ----------------------------------------------
Proud Member of Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:35:00 -
[55]
K, finished DLing and watched it. Great movie. A bit off on some of the narriation but still the best BDCI video yet. Keep it up Seleene. Was still a profitable trip in empire for us though too, dont think NORAD liked us too much there 
Anyway was some good fun, i even got to see my name on the scanner. I feel special 
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:35:00 -
[56]
K, finished DLing and watched it. Great movie. A bit off on some of the narriation but still the best BDCI video yet. Keep it up Seleene. Was still a profitable trip in empire for us though too, dont think NORAD liked us too much there 
Anyway was some good fun, i even got to see my name on the scanner. I feel special 
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:42:00 -
[57]
outstanding movie, its movies like this we wanna se more of!
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 04:42:00 -
[58]
outstanding movie, its movies like this we wanna se more of!
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:02:00 -
[59]
Excellent video as usual Seleene 
Props to VOTF for a good fight. Also, thanks to both our wingmen BDCI and the CLS suicide frig squad for flying by our sides. It was a fun war! ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

Julien Derida
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:02:00 -
[60]
Excellent video as usual Seleene 
Props to VOTF for a good fight. Also, thanks to both our wingmen BDCI and the CLS suicide frig squad for flying by our sides. It was a fun war! ----------------------------------------
Artistic Director & Chief Diplomat - FRICK |

BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:16:00 -
[61]
Excellent work on the video
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:16:00 -
[62]
Excellent work on the video
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:16:00 -
[63]
its hard to find **** that will give me a stiffie as hard as your video did ;f _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:16:00 -
[64]
its hard to find **** that will give me a stiffie as hard as your video did ;f _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:22:00 -
[65]
i wish i was in this one too ,but oh well least i didn't get to make an appearance like last time.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.21 05:22:00 -
[66]
i wish i was in this one too ,but oh well least i didn't get to make an appearance like last time.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:14:00 -
[67]
Kickass vid Seleene. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:14:00 -
[68]
Kickass vid Seleene. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:22:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:16 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:22:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:16 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:34:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Spurna on 21/11/2004 06:38:31 Seleene never lost a BS, not sure where you are coming up with that. Latex's Scorpion was returned due to system lag, therefore it was never really destroyed.
As for a victory for us, yeah it was plain and simple. Our job was to protect CLS Empire operations, mission accomplished.  ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 06:34:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Spurna on 21/11/2004 06:38:31 Seleene never lost a BS, not sure where you are coming up with that. Latex's Scorpion was returned due to system lag, therefore it was never really destroyed.
As for a victory for us, yeah it was plain and simple. Our job was to protect CLS Empire operations, mission accomplished.  ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:13:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 07:21:38
Thank you all for the positive feedback so far. It makes all the effort worth it! 
Originally by: Dentali Im having a hardtime finding your losses on the site in relation to battleships. Surely you have Latex Mistress and Seleene getting killed on there? Because Zelota has footage of that...
If I lost a BS, it's news to me. Confirmed Coalition BS losses are: Riz lost a BDCI Scorp. As for the Sharks, Lek'karion lost a Scorp & Karmic lost an Armageddon.
Originally by: Dentali Not to mention the other 3-4 we killed out there.
The list above is all I'm aware of. If you can provide official kill mails for any additional losses, they will be acknowledged publicly and logged.
Originally by: Dentali Heh... you make this seem like a victory for you all too much.
Yes, our coalition and, more importantly our client, were quite pleased with the results. In our business, that is all that matters. Others may interpret the facts in whatever manner pleases them.
Regardless, it was still the most fun war we have ever had. The only really dull moments were when one side or the other had an abolutely clear numerical advantage and chose (intelligently) to steer clear of a fight.
FYI - My original post has added a mirror to help alleviate the stress on our server.
At the time of the mirror posting, we have had 189 downloads for 8.3gb of bandwidth. It's now at 372.
You guys are going crazy.  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:13:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 07:21:38
Thank you all for the positive feedback so far. It makes all the effort worth it! 
Originally by: Dentali Im having a hardtime finding your losses on the site in relation to battleships. Surely you have Latex Mistress and Seleene getting killed on there? Because Zelota has footage of that...
If I lost a BS, it's news to me. Confirmed Coalition BS losses are: Riz lost a BDCI Scorp. As for the Sharks, Lek'karion lost a Scorp & Karmic lost an Armageddon.
Originally by: Dentali Not to mention the other 3-4 we killed out there.
The list above is all I'm aware of. If you can provide official kill mails for any additional losses, they will be acknowledged publicly and logged.
Originally by: Dentali Heh... you make this seem like a victory for you all too much.
Yes, our coalition and, more importantly our client, were quite pleased with the results. In our business, that is all that matters. Others may interpret the facts in whatever manner pleases them.
Regardless, it was still the most fun war we have ever had. The only really dull moments were when one side or the other had an abolutely clear numerical advantage and chose (intelligently) to steer clear of a fight.
FYI - My original post has added a mirror to help alleviate the stress on our server.
At the time of the mirror posting, we have had 189 downloads for 8.3gb of bandwidth. It's now at 372.
You guys are going crazy.  -
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:20:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:44 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:20:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 07:59:44 Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:23:00 -
[77]
Edited by: sapage1 on 21/11/2004 07:35:03
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:23:00 -
[78]
Edited by: sapage1 on 21/11/2004 07:35:03
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:27:00 -
[79]
why do you keep up the lie. NO BS where returned by the GM's due to lag.
Reimbursment Policy 1. LOST SHIPS c. Losses caused due to disconnection as a direct result of a server node drop or an unannounced server downtime may be reimbursed pending investigation by, and at the discretion of, a GM. Ships lost due to lag or non-server related disconnection will not be reimbursed.
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:27:00 -
[80]
why do you keep up the lie. NO BS where returned by the GM's due to lag.
Reimbursment Policy 1. LOST SHIPS c. Losses caused due to disconnection as a direct result of a server node drop or an unannounced server downtime may be reimbursed pending investigation by, and at the discretion of, a GM. Ships lost due to lag or non-server related disconnection will not be reimbursed.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:33:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Dentali No, Seleene went down in an Armaggedon if im not mistaken.
Did not happen. In fact, Jezzabell (recently returned after a brush with the hurricances in Florida) now has the Arma I flew in the VOTF war.
Originally by: Dentali The Burninator went down in a Raven.
Did not happen. He played bait and got hit hard in Grinacanne, but he made it out fine.
Originally by: Dentali Latex Mistress in a Scorpion, which if thats replaced due to lag its utter bull**** as you guys never engage in fleet battles so you dont know that fleet battles = lag fest beyond belief.
You'd be surprised at what we've engaged in, Dentali. 
Originally by: Dentali Ill try and gather the different videos through the forums. Zelota posted a small number of the kills of the war for VOTF.
Believe ones in here: http://eve.dxis.net/Blood_brothers.wmv
We have nothing to hide, Dentali. I do know that all of the kills in Zelota's vid are covered though. If you have any other solid evidence, please mail it to me and should it be legit, I will happily acknowledge it here in public. Until then, let's not turn this thread into a back and forth over the issue, ok?  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:33:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Dentali No, Seleene went down in an Armaggedon if im not mistaken.
Did not happen. In fact, Jezzabell (recently returned after a brush with the hurricances in Florida) now has the Arma I flew in the VOTF war.
Originally by: Dentali The Burninator went down in a Raven.
Did not happen. He played bait and got hit hard in Grinacanne, but he made it out fine.
Originally by: Dentali Latex Mistress in a Scorpion, which if thats replaced due to lag its utter bull**** as you guys never engage in fleet battles so you dont know that fleet battles = lag fest beyond belief.
You'd be surprised at what we've engaged in, Dentali. 
Originally by: Dentali Ill try and gather the different videos through the forums. Zelota posted a small number of the kills of the war for VOTF.
Believe ones in here: http://eve.dxis.net/Blood_brothers.wmv
We have nothing to hide, Dentali. I do know that all of the kills in Zelota's vid are covered though. If you have any other solid evidence, please mail it to me and should it be legit, I will happily acknowledge it here in public. Until then, let's not turn this thread into a back and forth over the issue, ok?  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:40:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 07:43:59
Originally by: Dentali Credibility is gone, dont need it at this point. Local EVE Players, research these forums along pages 9-12 and youll find all the evidence you need. They are clearly lying about the war. Dont even need to post it, its all there for you to find yourselves.
-Done with this thread.
Originally by: sapage1 why do you keep up the lie. NO BS where returned by the GM's due to lag.
Explain to me the advantage of lying about something of this nature when you know very well how important our honesty in such matters contributes to our reputation as honorable mercs? It escapes me.
If you have an issue with actions taken by the GMs, kindly take it up with them, but please leave it off of this thread. Any further mention of it should be considered an attempt to get the thread locked.
This will be my only comment on these accusations. -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:40:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 07:43:59
Originally by: Dentali Credibility is gone, dont need it at this point. Local EVE Players, research these forums along pages 9-12 and youll find all the evidence you need. They are clearly lying about the war. Dont even need to post it, its all there for you to find yourselves.
-Done with this thread.
Originally by: sapage1 why do you keep up the lie. NO BS where returned by the GM's due to lag.
Explain to me the advantage of lying about something of this nature when you know very well how important our honesty in such matters contributes to our reputation as honorable mercs? It escapes me.
If you have an issue with actions taken by the GMs, kindly take it up with them, but please leave it off of this thread. Any further mention of it should be considered an attempt to get the thread locked.
This will be my only comment on these accusations. -
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:43:00 -
[85]
why would bdci need to lie?
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:43:00 -
[86]
why would bdci need to lie?
www.dark-cartel.com |

Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:45:00 -
[87]
A very nice movie.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:45:00 -
[88]
A very nice movie.
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:56:00 -
[89]
Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 07:56:00 -
[90]
Not getting involved in this cluster**** of stupidity. So is said. |

Fist'of God
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:19:00 -
[91]
Is this the war CLS hired you and then fled to 0.0?
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Fist'of God
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:19:00 -
[92]
Is this the war CLS hired you and then fled to 0.0?
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:41:00 -
[93]
Outstanding Video!!!
I to hope to see more, when do we get to see a feature length film?, hehe.
CLS has never "fled" from anyone. It was simple logic, 99% of our PvPers are based in 0.0 and our empire operations are simply not prepared to fend off 4 CA corps and all our other wars at the same time.
BDCI and FRICK carried out their contract perfectly. I asked them to do one thing, keep CA off the backs of my empire players. I did not care about kill counts, tactics, or anything else. I told them they could spend the entire time camping the same gate and never enguaging the enemy as long as my empire folks were being left alone. They did an outstanding job in the excution of thier contract!
During the 3 week war CLS posted record profits, more then 14,000,000,000 ISK.
I will give VOTF and the other CA corps strong props for some VERY well fought battles. I see now why they have led the Curse Alliance so well for so long. (You have earned this respect dispite the crap being posted in this topic by "alts")
-CYVOK-
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:41:00 -
[94]
Outstanding Video!!!
I to hope to see more, when do we get to see a feature length film?, hehe.
CLS has never "fled" from anyone. It was simple logic, 99% of our PvPers are based in 0.0 and our empire operations are simply not prepared to fend off 4 CA corps and all our other wars at the same time.
BDCI and FRICK carried out their contract perfectly. I asked them to do one thing, keep CA off the backs of my empire players. I did not care about kill counts, tactics, or anything else. I told them they could spend the entire time camping the same gate and never enguaging the enemy as long as my empire folks were being left alone. They did an outstanding job in the excution of thier contract!
During the 3 week war CLS posted record profits, more then 14,000,000,000 ISK.
I will give VOTF and the other CA corps strong props for some VERY well fought battles. I see now why they have led the Curse Alliance so well for so long. (You have earned this respect dispite the crap being posted in this topic by "alts")
-CYVOK-
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Svarun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:47:00 -
[95]
Rofl alts You dont go out there much, do you? 
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Svarun
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:47:00 -
[96]
Rofl alts You dont go out there much, do you? 
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:49:00 -
[97]
awesome vid! ---------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:49:00 -
[98]
awesome vid! ---------------
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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:56:00 -
[99]
Dentali, give it up, you've been quoted that you thought this war was stupid. We agree! It was very fun tho! That's what matters.
Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie.
Fist'of God, CLS certainly did not run anywhere. Those that wanted to engage with us were welcome to do so. It was awesome!!
GG.

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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:56:00 -
[100]
Dentali, give it up, you've been quoted that you thought this war was stupid. We agree! It was very fun tho! That's what matters.
Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie.
Fist'of God, CLS certainly did not run anywhere. Those that wanted to engage with us were welcome to do so. It was awesome!!
GG.

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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:58:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:16:49 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:10:50 After looking at the totals [ISK] it breaks down like this:
Total VOTF Loss: 941,520,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Total BDCI / FRICK / MF Loss [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] Loss: 1,956,600,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Broken down into insurance, BDCI / FRICK / MF [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] lost 4 Crows 4 Taranis 1 Maledicition 1 Jaguar 1 Harpy, which means that nearly 170,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Broken down into insurance, VOTF lost 1 Maledicition 1 Stilleto, which means that nearly 22,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Ship Losses - Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off Crow 3 Jaguar 1 Kestrel 2 Apocalypse 4 Incursus 5 Slasher 1 Megathron 3 Taranis 4 Thorax 5 Raven 3 Moa 1 Blackbird 9 Claw 1 Rupture 1 Rifter 1 Armaggedon 1 Maledicition 1 Harpy 1 Scorpion 6 Caracal 1
Ship Losses - VOTF Vigil 8 Punisher 2 Rupture 12 Moa 6 Caracal 2 Raven 4 Rifter 9 Merlin 3 Kestrel 2 Blackbird 4 Maller 2 Thorax 1 Incursus 5 Scorpion 2 Maledicition 1 Bestower 1 Tempest 2 Tristan 2 Stiletto 1 Griffin 1
This information was gathered from the CMS (Curse Kill System) and BDCI (Body Count Kill System). Note that ganks in PF-346 were not included (AKA: The killing of NORAD personell). Note also that alot of battleship losses reported were from MF.
I now have my closure on this topic. Last post in this thread thats this long. I promise. 
Good fight to all. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:58:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:16:49 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:10:50 After looking at the totals [ISK] it breaks down like this:
Total VOTF Loss: 941,520,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Total BDCI / FRICK / MF Loss [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] Loss: 1,956,600,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Broken down into insurance, BDCI / FRICK / MF [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] lost 4 Crows 4 Taranis 1 Maledicition 1 Jaguar 1 Harpy, which means that nearly 170,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Broken down into insurance, VOTF lost 1 Maledicition 1 Stilleto, which means that nearly 22,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Ship Losses - Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off Crow 3 Jaguar 1 Kestrel 2 Apocalypse 4 Incursus 5 Slasher 1 Megathron 3 Taranis 4 Thorax 5 Raven 3 Moa 1 Blackbird 9 Claw 1 Rupture 1 Rifter 1 Armaggedon 1 Maledicition 1 Harpy 1 Scorpion 6 Caracal 1
Ship Losses - VOTF Vigil 8 Punisher 2 Rupture 12 Moa 6 Caracal 2 Raven 4 Rifter 9 Merlin 3 Kestrel 2 Blackbird 4 Maller 2 Thorax 1 Incursus 5 Scorpion 2 Maledicition 1 Bestower 1 Tempest 2 Tristan 2 Stiletto 1 Griffin 1
This information was gathered from the CMS (Curse Kill System) and BDCI (Body Count Kill System). Note that ganks in PF-346 were not included (AKA: The killing of NORAD personell). Note also that alot of battleship losses reported were from MF.
I now have my closure on this topic. Last post in this thread thats this long. I promise. 
Good fight to all. So is said. |

Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:04:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Dentali Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:04:26 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:03:10 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:01:39 After looking at the totals [ISK] it breaks down like this:
Total Vengeance of the Fallen Loss: 941,520,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs) Total BDCI / FRICK / MF Loss [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] Loss: 1,956,600,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Broken down into insurance, BDCI / FRICK / MF [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] lost 4 Crows 4 Taranis 1 Maledicition 1 Jaguar 1 Harpy, which means that nearly 170,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Broken down into insurance, VOTF lost 1 Maledicition 1 Stilleto, which means that nearly 22,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Ship Losses - Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off Crow 3 Jaguar 1 Kestrel 2 Apocalypse 4 Incursus 5 Slasher 1 Megathron 3 Taranis 4 Thorax 5 Raven 3 Moa 1 Blackbird 9 Claw 1 Rupture 1 Rifter 1 Armaggedon 1 Maledicition 1 Harpy 1 Scorpion 6 Caracal 1
Ship Losses - VOTF Vigil 8 Punisher 2 Rupture 12 Moa 6 Caracal 2 Raven 4 Rifter 9 Merlin 3 Kestrel 2 Blackbird 4 Maller 2 Thorax 1 Incursus 5 Scorpion 2 Maledicition 1 Bestower 1 Tempest 2 Tristan 2 Stiletto 1 Griffin 1
This information was gathered from the CMS (Curse Kill System) and BDCI (Body Count Kill System). Note that ganks in PF-346 were not included (AKA: The killing of NORAD personell). Note also that alot of battleship losses reported were from MF.
Good fight to all.
For someone who took no part an any fight, you sure do know a whole lot of what happened. You're a joke. What BDCI/FRICK lost is on our Kill/Loss board, that's it period. MF has nothing to do with this, they are your problem now. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:04:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dentali Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:04:26 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:03:10 Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:01:39 After looking at the totals [ISK] it breaks down like this:
Total Vengeance of the Fallen Loss: 941,520,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs) Total BDCI / FRICK / MF Loss [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] Loss: 1,956,600,000 ISK (Rounded from collective ship costs)
Broken down into insurance, BDCI / FRICK / MF [The Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off] lost 4 Crows 4 Taranis 1 Maledicition 1 Jaguar 1 Harpy, which means that nearly 170,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Broken down into insurance, VOTF lost 1 Maledicition 1 Stilleto, which means that nearly 22,000,000 ISK was ****ed away.
Ship Losses - Mercenary Coalition Before MF Split Off Crow 3 Jaguar 1 Kestrel 2 Apocalypse 4 Incursus 5 Slasher 1 Megathron 3 Taranis 4 Thorax 5 Raven 3 Moa 1 Blackbird 9 Claw 1 Rupture 1 Rifter 1 Armaggedon 1 Maledicition 1 Harpy 1 Scorpion 6 Caracal 1
Ship Losses - VOTF Vigil 8 Punisher 2 Rupture 12 Moa 6 Caracal 2 Raven 4 Rifter 9 Merlin 3 Kestrel 2 Blackbird 4 Maller 2 Thorax 1 Incursus 5 Scorpion 2 Maledicition 1 Bestower 1 Tempest 2 Tristan 2 Stiletto 1 Griffin 1
This information was gathered from the CMS (Curse Kill System) and BDCI (Body Count Kill System). Note that ganks in PF-346 were not included (AKA: The killing of NORAD personell). Note also that alot of battleship losses reported were from MF.
Good fight to all.
For someone who took no part an any fight, you sure do know a whole lot of what happened. You're a joke. What BDCI/FRICK lost is on our Kill/Loss board, that's it period. MF has nothing to do with this, they are your problem now. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:05:00 -
[105]
Who killed me? I got out of that battle no problem, my paint was a little scratched but thats all you managed.
Apperently I dont know what happened with my own ship :P. Thats funny stuff. ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:05:00 -
[106]
Who killed me? I got out of that battle no problem, my paint was a little scratched but thats all you managed.
Apperently I dont know what happened with my own ship :P. Thats funny stuff. ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:07:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:12:13 Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
PS: I was in the fights. I flew a Typhoon. Plus multiple others such as frigates/cruisers. My kestrel getting shot down by your Anode Tachyon is on your killboard silly goose. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:07:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:12:13 Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
PS: I was in the fights. I flew a Typhoon. Plus multiple others such as frigates/cruisers. My kestrel getting shot down by your Anode Tachyon is on your killboard silly goose. So is said. |

Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:09:00 -
[109]
Please add the isk value to this please:
Did the contracted corp cause any real problems for the client?
Contact FRICK, BDCI.
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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:09:00 -
[110]
Please add the isk value to this please:
Did the contracted corp cause any real problems for the client?
Contact FRICK, BDCI.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:11:00 -
[111]
Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it.
Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction *insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here*
Mercs never come to Curse, so I think pulling back to Curse is a logic step to lure Mercs into deep space.
All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:11:00 -
[112]
Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it.
Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction *insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here*
Mercs never come to Curse, so I think pulling back to Curse is a logic step to lure Mercs into deep space.
All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month.
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:12:00 -
[113]
I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:12:00 -
[114]
I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:13:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Dentali Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:12:13 Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
PS: I was in the fights. I flew a Typhoon. Plus multiple others such as frigates/cruisers. My kestrel getting shot down by your Anode Tachyon is on your killboard silly goose.
So, what you're saying is MF lost 1.5 billion in ships? LOL, and they are part of CA now. However, MF is not a part of the video other than when they decided that pirating was more important than doing their job. We worked with them, if that's what you want to call it, for a whole day and a half. They weren't even hired by CLS, like BDCI and FRICK were. We do not claim them as part of our coalition. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Spurna
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:13:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Dentali Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:12:13 Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
PS: I was in the fights. I flew a Typhoon. Plus multiple others such as frigates/cruisers. My kestrel getting shot down by your Anode Tachyon is on your killboard silly goose.
So, what you're saying is MF lost 1.5 billion in ships? LOL, and they are part of CA now. However, MF is not a part of the video other than when they decided that pirating was more important than doing their job. We worked with them, if that's what you want to call it, for a whole day and a half. They weren't even hired by CLS, like BDCI and FRICK were. We do not claim them as part of our coalition. ----------------------------
Bodycount Inc.
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:14:00 -
[117]
well done 
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:14:00 -
[118]
well done 
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Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:14:00 -
[119]
I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers! [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |

Myal Terego
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:14:00 -
[120]
I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers! [center] http://213.142.66.138/~nervar/myalb.jpg |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:17:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:24:54 Interesting as you had them on your teamspeak and you were working with them. Total stands, the mercenary corporations hired against VOTF are displayed in total loss here. Thats not what you guys got back from insurance, to tell the truth, VOTF only lost about 290 mil roughly in insurance costs, and that was all replaced by mods from NORAD corporations. Your corporation didnt loose 400 mil either, they lost about 170 mil + about 120 mil in insurance. That was mainly due to your elite class ships.
VOTF is well aware of how MF was hired. Hell, we knew you guys were declaring war before you even started moving ammo. 
Actually... some of the members of our corporation know who you are getting contracts from before you ever even get the evemail.... interesting how that happens eh? 
Anywho, ive said all I need to say regarding this, you can disect what I posted all you want to. We did more damage that month than we have ever done in EVE. We totalled much more damage on NORAD than we did against you guys.  So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 09:24:54 Interesting as you had them on your teamspeak and you were working with them. Total stands, the mercenary corporations hired against VOTF are displayed in total loss here. Thats not what you guys got back from insurance, to tell the truth, VOTF only lost about 290 mil roughly in insurance costs, and that was all replaced by mods from NORAD corporations. Your corporation didnt loose 400 mil either, they lost about 170 mil + about 120 mil in insurance. That was mainly due to your elite class ships.
VOTF is well aware of how MF was hired. Hell, we knew you guys were declaring war before you even started moving ammo. 
Actually... some of the members of our corporation know who you are getting contracts from before you ever even get the evemail.... interesting how that happens eh? 
Anywho, ive said all I need to say regarding this, you can disect what I posted all you want to. We did more damage that month than we have ever done in EVE. We totalled much more damage on NORAD than we did against you guys.  So is said. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:24:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 09:31:09
Originally by: Dentali Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
Dentali, MF were never considered part of the CLS defense force, at least not after our first nights of working with them. They simply did not fit in with our tactics or ideals. Their war against you lasted what? Three or four days? And they lost 1.5 billion is ships to you? Wow. 
Originally by: AvanCade Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the same thing you do. I see even odds or us being outnumbered in most places, especially once MF switched sides and the Revenge guys were swarming Karmic in Grinacanne to get his 'geddon scrambled. Oh well...
Originally by: AvanCade Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction *insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here*
The convo in question was in relation to Xirtam losing his uninsured Tempest to sentry guns because of a CLS player who had recently left the corp. Cyvok offered to pay him for the loss and Xirt seemed less than thankful even tho Cyvok didn't have to give him a single ISK. The comment was made in reference to his ship, not his pod.
Originally by: AvanCade All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month.
Well, you can't please everyone but I'll take the good with the bad. I appreciate your vid reviews, Avan. You don't let politics get in the way and I respect that. 
Originally by: Myal Terego I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers!
Myal, your last vid was a work of art. I'm very pleased you enjoyed mine even tho it was very different in format.  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:24:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 09:31:09
Originally by: Dentali Correction, they too were at war with us. Our losses to them are also totaled. They were a part of your coalition and thus they were in the fight with you. The rough break down from your corp privately is as follows: Total BDCI/SHARK: 440,300,000.
Dentali, MF were never considered part of the CLS defense force, at least not after our first nights of working with them. They simply did not fit in with our tactics or ideals. Their war against you lasted what? Three or four days? And they lost 1.5 billion is ships to you? Wow. 
Originally by: AvanCade Pretty cool video since it shows more then just simple ganks. But i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1. Thats just reinsuring your victory instead of trying to claim it.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the same thing you do. I see even odds or us being outnumbered in most places, especially once MF switched sides and the Revenge guys were swarming Karmic in Grinacanne to get his 'geddon scrambled. Oh well...
Originally by: AvanCade Next, dieing in battle is not same as ship destruction *insert reference to Xirtam never dies in battle here*
The convo in question was in relation to Xirtam losing his uninsured Tempest to sentry guns because of a CLS player who had recently left the corp. Cyvok offered to pay him for the loss and Xirt seemed less than thankful even tho Cyvok didn't have to give him a single ISK. The comment was made in reference to his ship, not his pod.
Originally by: AvanCade All with all I was kinda dissapointed, but yet it was far most the best video this month.
Well, you can't please everyone but I'll take the good with the bad. I appreciate your vid reviews, Avan. You don't let politics get in the way and I respect that. 
Originally by: Myal Terego I enjoyed watching the video seleene, nice one. Especially liked the end tune :) cheers!
Myal, your last vid was a work of art. I'm very pleased you enjoyed mine even tho it was very different in format.  -
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Feyd Darkholme
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:30:00 -
[125]
Don't know what you slow people are complaining about... my download is a crisp 250k/s and should be done in about 5 minutes... I can't wait to see it, I love watching EVE vids, especially yours Sel.  ---------------
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Feyd Darkholme
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:30:00 -
[126]
Don't know what you slow people are complaining about... my download is a crisp 250k/s and should be done in about 5 minutes... I can't wait to see it, I love watching EVE vids, especially yours Sel.  ---------------
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:33:00 -
[127]
Truely awsome video as per usual, as for CLS retreating to 0.0 lmfao we had less people in xetic during that war then before the war. BDCI werent hired to kill votf they were hired to stop votf disrupting empire operations which they did i think we lost 1 battleship (really stupidly lost nothin bdci/sharks could do) and couple of others such as cruisers doing mission. other than that we only lost suicide frigs and the odd cruiser that we didnt care about.
If the war had been purely 1 vs 1 , votf vs cls we certainly wouldnt have hired mercs. but CLS has been at war with more than 1 corp ever since its creation.
At the time we had 4 CA corps declared on us plus 4 others. and at this moment we have 6+. i cant remember last time we were below 5.
Votf are extremely good pvp corp and as we posted at the beginning we respected them and were honoured they felt it needed to declare war on us. And after the war we still respected them as good pvp'ers and majority (not all) as clean and honourable fighters.
It was made clear that votf didnt respect us hiring mercs but frankly they didnt have the full facts of why we did so. Votf will see us in xetic space when they invade, and they will likewise see us in CA.
But i will say one thing how many corps who hire mercs openly admit it, we didnt hide and say we didnt hire them, we openly said before they even declared war we were getting help.
Surely its logical decision if you have money but not enough fighters for 8 wars... you pay mercs..... and i salute cyvok for boldly making that decision.
Thanks BDCI and Shark for your professional and imo successful contract.Look forward to the next video
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:33:00 -
[128]
Truely awsome video as per usual, as for CLS retreating to 0.0 lmfao we had less people in xetic during that war then before the war. BDCI werent hired to kill votf they were hired to stop votf disrupting empire operations which they did i think we lost 1 battleship (really stupidly lost nothin bdci/sharks could do) and couple of others such as cruisers doing mission. other than that we only lost suicide frigs and the odd cruiser that we didnt care about.
If the war had been purely 1 vs 1 , votf vs cls we certainly wouldnt have hired mercs. but CLS has been at war with more than 1 corp ever since its creation.
At the time we had 4 CA corps declared on us plus 4 others. and at this moment we have 6+. i cant remember last time we were below 5.
Votf are extremely good pvp corp and as we posted at the beginning we respected them and were honoured they felt it needed to declare war on us. And after the war we still respected them as good pvp'ers and majority (not all) as clean and honourable fighters.
It was made clear that votf didnt respect us hiring mercs but frankly they didnt have the full facts of why we did so. Votf will see us in xetic space when they invade, and they will likewise see us in CA.
But i will say one thing how many corps who hire mercs openly admit it, we didnt hide and say we didnt hire them, we openly said before they even declared war we were getting help.
Surely its logical decision if you have money but not enough fighters for 8 wars... you pay mercs..... and i salute cyvok for boldly making that decision.
Thanks BDCI and Shark for your professional and imo successful contract.Look forward to the next video
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:34:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Xulnaga Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie.

I really donÆt give a <censored> that you got your ships replace it is the manner in which they have been replaced. As it states, very clearly in the rules for replacing ships that Ship will NOT be replaced due to client side lag. BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. My problem is with the GM that replaced these ships. If everyone in eve is not treated the same what is the point. I have tried to get an answer out of CCP as to why 2 Battleships where replaced due to client side lag but I have never received one. I really think that the GM that replaced your ships should be up for some sort of conduct review. If you statements about the Battleships being replaced due to lag are true.
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:34:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Xulnaga Sapage1, I know for a fact ships WERE reimbursed because of lag. As said, what's the point of lying? Sharks and BDCI are both honorable corps and have no reason to lie.

I really donÆt give a <censored> that you got your ships replace it is the manner in which they have been replaced. As it states, very clearly in the rules for replacing ships that Ship will NOT be replaced due to client side lag. BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag. My problem is with the GM that replaced these ships. If everyone in eve is not treated the same what is the point. I have tried to get an answer out of CCP as to why 2 Battleships where replaced due to client side lag but I have never received one. I really think that the GM that replaced your ships should be up for some sort of conduct review. If you statements about the Battleships being replaced due to lag are true.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:37:00 -
[131]
Originally by: sapage1 BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag.
No. It was not client side lag. If it was, the ships would not have been replaced, correct?
Take it to the GMs, Sapage. *waves hand* This is not the thread you are looking for. -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:37:00 -
[132]
Originally by: sapage1 BDCI has stated that 2 battleships were replaced due to client side lag.
No. It was not client side lag. If it was, the ships would not have been replaced, correct?
Take it to the GMs, Sapage. *waves hand* This is not the thread you are looking for. -
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 -
[133]
Thats a very nice lookin video Selene and im glad i took part of that. Salute to all pilots who fought bravely in the war 
http://cls.killboard.net
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 -
[134]
Thats a very nice lookin video Selene and im glad i took part of that. Salute to all pilots who fought bravely in the war 
http://cls.killboard.net
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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 -
[135]
I don't know their complete server setup as I'm sure you don't....but....here it comes....it wasn't client side?
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Xulnaga
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:38:00 -
[136]
I don't know their complete server setup as I'm sure you don't....but....here it comes....it wasn't client side?
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:42:00 -
[137]
We lost no ships in this petty excuse for a war! The infidels never even damaged our armor!
Because of their shame, they podded themselves in Ourapheh, Grinnacane, PF, and Yulai... They refused to engage but instead sacrificed their ships at our feet. Space was littered with the frozen corpses of traitorous bastards of BDCI and FRICK!!!
Xirtam never lost his ship! Dentali killed every FRICK pilot three times! Burninator, Latex, and all the dogs of Body Count lost their ships repeatedly - they bought more clones in three weeks than all of Curse since inception!!!
All this is true - I swear to you!
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:42:00 -
[138]
We lost no ships in this petty excuse for a war! The infidels never even damaged our armor!
Because of their shame, they podded themselves in Ourapheh, Grinnacane, PF, and Yulai... They refused to engage but instead sacrificed their ships at our feet. Space was littered with the frozen corpses of traitorous bastards of BDCI and FRICK!!!
Xirtam never lost his ship! Dentali killed every FRICK pilot three times! Burninator, Latex, and all the dogs of Body Count lost their ships repeatedly - they bought more clones in three weeks than all of Curse since inception!!!
All this is true - I swear to you!
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:45:00 -
[139]
That was awesome! I liked the very very ending a lot also. The only thing I could ask for is one of Waagaa's "dum de dum"'s. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:45:00 -
[140]
That was awesome! I liked the very very ending a lot also. The only thing I could ask for is one of Waagaa's "dum de dum"'s. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:50:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet.
Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:50:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet.
Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P. ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 -
[143]
Thank God Vanish gets cream out of pants.
That video was awesome!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 -
[144]
Thank God Vanish gets cream out of pants.
That video was awesome!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 -
[145]
Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet.
Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P.
I think my ego just got Tristan sized :) You were a fun 'oh crap its the burninator! cheese it! man lol ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2004.11.21 09:55:00 -
[146]
Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Zaintiraris I'm still just a little sad that the one time when I was in CLS that I actually saw the Burninator in local, that I didn't gather some guts, tell her to hold up while I got a frigate, and had some fun. *Continues downloading*
And thanks for providing good movies. Haven't seen one that wasn't fun yet.
Man I remember you I used to go hunt you for like 3 days, I can safely say that you were a fun hunt man :P.
I think my ego just got Tristan sized :) You were a fun 'oh crap its the burninator! cheese it! man lol ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Feyd Darkholme
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:02:00 -
[147]
The official Joshua Calvert seal of approval... you can die happy now Sel. 
I just got done watching it myself, and I concur, spectacular... and please, make a feature length EVE vid next time. I am always left wanting more!  ---------------
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Feyd Darkholme
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:02:00 -
[148]
The official Joshua Calvert seal of approval... you can die happy now Sel. 
I just got done watching it myself, and I concur, spectacular... and please, make a feature length EVE vid next time. I am always left wanting more!  ---------------
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:07:00 -
[149]
OMG dont give him ideas, LOL ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:07:00 -
[150]
OMG dont give him ideas, LOL ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:19:00 -
[151]
CA denying and arguing about kills and losses 
Well aint there a first thing for everything 
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:19:00 -
[152]
CA denying and arguing about kills and losses 
Well aint there a first thing for everything 
Spawn of the Devil
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:21:00 -
[153]
Time for me to chip-in.
Seleene it was indeed a good fight from both sides, and you must respect that VOTF faught outnumbered well above 50% of the time.
Secondly i have a problem with your 1:2 kill ratio, it isnt correct and you know that, thats why you eddited it. In one single night myself and Redon took down 2 cruisers and 5 elites, just in pator, within a 10min fight in which i had the plessure of:-
2004.10.22 05:50:00
Victim: Agent NeolithicalWolf Corporation: Body Count Inc. Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Yulai System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Aneu Angellus (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Havoc Heavy Missile I
2004.10.22 05:50:00 For your termination of Agent NeolithicalWolf we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 4,000,000 ISK
Yet i see no record of any of the cruisers that were lost (the one was agent neo)
Finnaly the other problem i have is that you dont list CLS losses which were significant to say the least.
If you placed the CLS losses up here then you would look riddiculous in how many ships they lost when your contract was going on. CLS were a major part of your fleets and for them not to be included in your kills is disrespectfull to VOTF and anyone who reads your kill boards, its mis-direction and manipulation of the facts.
CLS lost plenty of ships, but the one ill name here is the one that i found hillarous.
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Juggernaut Torpedo I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Unknown
He was solo outside the VOTF main base in EMPIRE! He blew up my mains frigate (hostile) so i undocked in my scorpion (on alt) and let him proceed to take me heavy into armour, in which time my main had re-docked and got in his tempest, then bam, jamed scrambled, dead...
As iv mentioned before Seleene, you have to include a 'dummys guide in how to not get ganked' to the corporations you protect.
2004.10.19 19:47:00
Victim: Senior Pablo Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Rupture Solar System: Lustrevik System Security Level: 0.9
Involved parties:
Name: eyesu Security Status: 0.9 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Piranha Light Missile I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown
One more for the road, if you want me to collect all the CLS we killed during our campaign i can do, but rememmber Seleene, bad publicity will kill your buisness, so please, stop hiding the facts and admit on a whole your defence was poor at best.
We still managed to take a major dent out of CLS's empire operations and cause them significant losses... while being protected.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:21:00 -
[154]
Time for me to chip-in.
Seleene it was indeed a good fight from both sides, and you must respect that VOTF faught outnumbered well above 50% of the time.
Secondly i have a problem with your 1:2 kill ratio, it isnt correct and you know that, thats why you eddited it. In one single night myself and Redon took down 2 cruisers and 5 elites, just in pator, within a 10min fight in which i had the plessure of:-
2004.10.22 05:50:00
Victim: Agent NeolithicalWolf Corporation: Body Count Inc. Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Yulai System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Aneu Angellus (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Havoc Heavy Missile I
2004.10.22 05:50:00 For your termination of Agent NeolithicalWolf we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 4,000,000 ISK
Yet i see no record of any of the cruisers that were lost (the one was agent neo)
Finnaly the other problem i have is that you dont list CLS losses which were significant to say the least.
If you placed the CLS losses up here then you would look riddiculous in how many ships they lost when your contract was going on. CLS were a major part of your fleets and for them not to be included in your kills is disrespectfull to VOTF and anyone who reads your kill boards, its mis-direction and manipulation of the facts.
CLS lost plenty of ships, but the one ill name here is the one that i found hillarous.
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Juggernaut Torpedo I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Unknown
He was solo outside the VOTF main base in EMPIRE! He blew up my mains frigate (hostile) so i undocked in my scorpion (on alt) and let him proceed to take me heavy into armour, in which time my main had re-docked and got in his tempest, then bam, jamed scrambled, dead...
As iv mentioned before Seleene, you have to include a 'dummys guide in how to not get ganked' to the corporations you protect.
2004.10.19 19:47:00
Victim: Senior Pablo Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Rupture Solar System: Lustrevik System Security Level: 0.9
Involved parties:
Name: eyesu Security Status: 0.9 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rupture Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Piranha Light Missile I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Unknown
One more for the road, if you want me to collect all the CLS we killed during our campaign i can do, but rememmber Seleene, bad publicity will kill your buisness, so please, stop hiding the facts and admit on a whole your defence was poor at best.
We still managed to take a major dent out of CLS's empire operations and cause them significant losses... while being protected.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:22:00 -
[155]
@Seleene, i take it the footage was from BDCI and/or SHARKS. I always saw more purple (means gang?!) then orange (means war ?!) on the scanner.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:22:00 -
[156]
@Seleene, i take it the footage was from BDCI and/or SHARKS. I always saw more purple (means gang?!) then orange (means war ?!) on the scanner.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:24:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Omniwar on 21/11/2004 10:29:22 Omg another one 
Well they come in threes dont they, the stooges I mean.
ps, not refering to AvanCade but the ones that have been flaming all this thread, they really should make a thread about it cause this aint the place for their discussions. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:24:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Omniwar on 21/11/2004 10:29:22 Omg another one 
Well they come in threes dont they, the stooges I mean.
ps, not refering to AvanCade but the ones that have been flaming all this thread, they really should make a thread about it cause this aint the place for their discussions. Spawn of the Devil
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:24:00 -
[159]
That was by far one of the best movies I've seen! Good work!  -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:24:00 -
[160]
That was by far one of the best movies I've seen! Good work!  -
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:29:00 -
[161]
Hmmmmmmm......... You seem to be missing the point, Aneu. All CLS losses, with the exception of perhaps 2 or 3, were those of people who willingly engaged in PvP. BDCI and Sharks DID fulfill their contract becaus our agent runners kept doing agent missions and our miners kept mining while you engaged our PvPers.
Granted, some CLS pilots made mistakes upon occasion, however, all the frigs of ours that you killed were meant to be sacrificial. Every CLS pilot out there was willing to die to hold one of your battleships down long enough for the Mercs to kill it. Sometimes it worked, and someimes it didn't.
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:29:00 -
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Hmmmmmmm......... You seem to be missing the point, Aneu. All CLS losses, with the exception of perhaps 2 or 3, were those of people who willingly engaged in PvP. BDCI and Sharks DID fulfill their contract becaus our agent runners kept doing agent missions and our miners kept mining while you engaged our PvPers.
Granted, some CLS pilots made mistakes upon occasion, however, all the frigs of ours that you killed were meant to be sacrificial. Every CLS pilot out there was willing to die to hold one of your battleships down long enough for the Mercs to kill it. Sometimes it worked, and someimes it didn't.
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Coasterbrian Hmmmmmmm......... You seem to be missing the point, Aneu. All CLS losses, with the exception of perhaps 2 or 3, were those of people who willingly engaged in PvP. BDCI and Sharks DID fulfill their contract becaus our agent runners kept doing agent missions and our miners kept mining while you engaged our PvPers.
Granted, some CLS pilots made mistakes upon occasion, however, all the frigs of ours that you killed were meant to be sacrificial. Every CLS pilot out there was willing to die to hold one of your battleships down long enough for the Mercs to kill it. Sometimes it worked, and someimes it didn't.
No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Coasterbrian Hmmmmmmm......... You seem to be missing the point, Aneu. All CLS losses, with the exception of perhaps 2 or 3, were those of people who willingly engaged in PvP. BDCI and Sharks DID fulfill their contract becaus our agent runners kept doing agent missions and our miners kept mining while you engaged our PvPers.
Granted, some CLS pilots made mistakes upon occasion, however, all the frigs of ours that you killed were meant to be sacrificial. Every CLS pilot out there was willing to die to hold one of your battleships down long enough for the Mercs to kill it. Sometimes it worked, and someimes it didn't.
No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:38:00 -
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I can tell you for a fact that the battle of Grinicane, we were well outnumbered, forces were comming from both sides in on us and had we been an un-battle-worthy corp, the situation could have become very bloody, yet we held you. I went after a rupture as bait, moved away from him towards a planet and warped out with a chunk of armor missing. +my missiles hit the rupture died and his pod was popped seconds later if I remember correctly. (not to mention I had a second client open at the same time in the background being the reason I crashed seconds into the fight.) :P
Any comments made previous to this post with the implied meaning of flaming our abilities and credibility are now ignored. We have seen this with a bunch of our wars, cowboys who think they run the show, who wanna hijack our Video thread because they have been treated "unkindly" in the video. Sorry but its about you dying, and CLS moving on with their lives.
In the End its really about CLS being able to make mucho money without you guys bothering them. And in my oppinion and the oppinion of our contractor Cyvok, I believe that is a mission accomplished. You lost ALL your credibility with me when you said that I lost my Raven in the Grinicane battle, when clearly I didn't since I'm currently using it on our CURRENT contract (but also it shows me getting out in the video).
/emote hugs VOTF, good fight. Let it be
**Give Seleene a call if you are interested in our services** ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:38:00 -
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I can tell you for a fact that the battle of Grinicane, we were well outnumbered, forces were comming from both sides in on us and had we been an un-battle-worthy corp, the situation could have become very bloody, yet we held you. I went after a rupture as bait, moved away from him towards a planet and warped out with a chunk of armor missing. +my missiles hit the rupture died and his pod was popped seconds later if I remember correctly. (not to mention I had a second client open at the same time in the background being the reason I crashed seconds into the fight.) :P
Any comments made previous to this post with the implied meaning of flaming our abilities and credibility are now ignored. We have seen this with a bunch of our wars, cowboys who think they run the show, who wanna hijack our Video thread because they have been treated "unkindly" in the video. Sorry but its about you dying, and CLS moving on with their lives.
In the End its really about CLS being able to make mucho money without you guys bothering them. And in my oppinion and the oppinion of our contractor Cyvok, I believe that is a mission accomplished. You lost ALL your credibility with me when you said that I lost my Raven in the Grinicane battle, when clearly I didn't since I'm currently using it on our CURRENT contract (but also it shows me getting out in the video).
/emote hugs VOTF, good fight. Let it be
**Give Seleene a call if you are interested in our services** ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:43:43 First, I would like to mark my first post by saying that this is the best EVE vid I've ever seen, next to the PA one with the "Baywatch" song. 8) Also, a sincere thanks to FRICK and CLS for one hell of a great war - it's the reason why I pay my money everymonth! Now, if I could just get the same fights out of everyone... Anyway, on to lend truth to flames from the lames:
Originally by: AvanCade i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1.
You need an eye exam and a couple of puffs from the Clue Hookah...
Merc:CA ratio in order shown on vid:
First battle: 12:8
Grinacane: 12:8
Ourapheh: (hard to tell, not enough room on the radar, but about 14:10)
Ourapheh: 9:11 (as more Venerable Old Tooth Fairies were destroyed or warped out, more Mercs/CLS warped in, totalling 13)
PF: 19:8
Grinacane: 12:9
Grinacane: 13:10 (not including obvious MF/R, Inc lackeys firing on us)
Yulai: 7:4
Grinacane: 9:11 before everyone got there, then 14:10, 14:12, 10:11, 10:13...
Orvolle: 18:8
Pator: 4:2 (one warped out immediately)
PF: 7:7
PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
All the 10:1 footage was pretty much the remnants of all the battles above, and that may be where your count is off. But I will not deny, but decry the numbers and tactics of the Merc Coalition and our allies in CLS.
Lastly I only counted the ORANGE targets at each battle, the PF battle numbers is very off because VOTF were teamed up with R, Inc and MF, who we were not at war with but still had to fight because VOTF refused to step back in to Empire where their new pirate friends could not attack...
Just trying to clear up any misconception. Oh, and Denali - the "bukkake fest" is on you, we all know it, so shut up and deal with it boy. 
Edit: My arrows didn't work!!!
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:43:43 First, I would like to mark my first post by saying that this is the best EVE vid I've ever seen, next to the PA one with the "Baywatch" song. 8) Also, a sincere thanks to FRICK and CLS for one hell of a great war - it's the reason why I pay my money everymonth! Now, if I could just get the same fights out of everyone... Anyway, on to lend truth to flames from the lames:
Originally by: AvanCade i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1.
You need an eye exam and a couple of puffs from the Clue Hookah...
Merc:CA ratio in order shown on vid:
First battle: 12:8
Grinacane: 12:8
Ourapheh: (hard to tell, not enough room on the radar, but about 14:10)
Ourapheh: 9:11 (as more Venerable Old Tooth Fairies were destroyed or warped out, more Mercs/CLS warped in, totalling 13)
PF: 19:8
Grinacane: 12:9
Grinacane: 13:10 (not including obvious MF/R, Inc lackeys firing on us)
Yulai: 7:4
Grinacane: 9:11 before everyone got there, then 14:10, 14:12, 10:11, 10:13...
Orvolle: 18:8
Pator: 4:2 (one warped out immediately)
PF: 7:7
PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
All the 10:1 footage was pretty much the remnants of all the battles above, and that may be where your count is off. But I will not deny, but decry the numbers and tactics of the Merc Coalition and our allies in CLS.
Lastly I only counted the ORANGE targets at each battle, the PF battle numbers is very off because VOTF were teamed up with R, Inc and MF, who we were not at war with but still had to fight because VOTF refused to step back in to Empire where their new pirate friends could not attack...
Just trying to clear up any misconception. Oh, and Denali - the "bukkake fest" is on you, we all know it, so shut up and deal with it boy. 
Edit: My arrows didn't work!!!
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:43:00 -
[170]
Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

FZappa
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:45:00 -
[171]
 awesome movie. -------------------------
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:45:00 -
[172]
 awesome movie. -------------------------
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:46:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh ----------------
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh
Your point of this post? You cant come up with some solid defence against my posts so here you are trying to make light of the situation?
Hah.. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh
Your point of this post? You cant come up with some solid defence against my posts so here you are trying to make light of the situation?
Hah.. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:49:00 -
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Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:49:00 -
[178]
Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids. Spawn of the Devil
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Abraham Azadian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:52:00 -
[179]
Seleene, this movie is great (just stop putting this crapy music please )
To VOTF, good fight
LIBERONS LES PETITES CULOTTES !
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Abraham Azadian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:52:00 -
[180]
Seleene, this movie is great (just stop putting this crapy music please )
To VOTF, good fight
LIBERONS LES PETITES CULOTTES !
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:52:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids.
The 'chest beating' as you say was instigated by Seleene who manipualted the facts and misplaced some other things.
I indeed think its a great video but if she didnt want a discussion she should have just posted the video and left it at that, instead she decided to write an essay on how good BDCI and SHARKS were, and how VOTF lost double numbers compared to BDCI & SHARKS... Omni, you stand up for your corporation, i do the same for mine.
P,S Pot Kettle black omni... your an offender of this as much as i am. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:52:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids.
The 'chest beating' as you say was instigated by Seleene who manipualted the facts and misplaced some other things.
I indeed think its a great video but if she didnt want a discussion she should have just posted the video and left it at that, instead she decided to write an essay on how good BDCI and SHARKS were, and how VOTF lost double numbers compared to BDCI & SHARKS... Omni, you stand up for your corporation, i do the same for mine.
P,S Pot Kettle black omni... your an offender of this as much as i am. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Heywood
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:54:00 -
[183]
Great movie, and the music is good to 
Ppl should learn from this instead of puting in boring ganks. 
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Heywood
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:54:00 -
[184]
Great movie, and the music is good to 
Ppl should learn from this instead of puting in boring ganks. 
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:55:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:59:53
Originally by: Shamen And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time.
Yup, and that's exactly the point: you, Dentali, and everyone else said that you'd pretty much own us (in very unflattering and disgusting ways) and... it didn't happen. No, not only did it *not* happen, but it was quite the opposite.
The only possible way in which you and your pirate friends could ever claim any sort of victory is if you counted the sheer number of ships and ignored their class. Of course, CLS pilots wanted to come out and have a great time, so they used their frigates as XL Hybrid ammo and lost them a-plenty. Even so, their and our battle losses nowhere near come close to VOTF/MF/R, Inc losses ISK-wise.
As for the CLS kills outside of Sharks/BDCI/CLS engagements... that's between you and them - has nothing to do with this vid. Oh, and while we're on the topic, please allow me to add in the "Deleted Footage" of Sel's video: a simple text line at the very end that says this:
"After the wholesale destruction of the CA pirate forces, Body Count and Sharks would have escorted the invaders back to their homelands, but they all had dual-MWDÆs on and were too quick..." 
Edit: I guess we'll fix that in Shiva, eh?
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:55:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:59:53
Originally by: Shamen And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time.
Yup, and that's exactly the point: you, Dentali, and everyone else said that you'd pretty much own us (in very unflattering and disgusting ways) and... it didn't happen. No, not only did it *not* happen, but it was quite the opposite.
The only possible way in which you and your pirate friends could ever claim any sort of victory is if you counted the sheer number of ships and ignored their class. Of course, CLS pilots wanted to come out and have a great time, so they used their frigates as XL Hybrid ammo and lost them a-plenty. Even so, their and our battle losses nowhere near come close to VOTF/MF/R, Inc losses ISK-wise.
As for the CLS kills outside of Sharks/BDCI/CLS engagements... that's between you and them - has nothing to do with this vid. Oh, and while we're on the topic, please allow me to add in the "Deleted Footage" of Sel's video: a simple text line at the very end that says this:
"After the wholesale destruction of the CA pirate forces, Body Count and Sharks would have escorted the invaders back to their homelands, but they all had dual-MWDÆs on and were too quick..." 
Edit: I guess we'll fix that in Shiva, eh?
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:57:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Shamen In one single night myself and Redon took down 2 cruisers and 5 elites, just in pator, within a 10min fight in which i had the plessure of:-
2004.10.22 05:50:00 For your termination of Agent NeolithicalWolf we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 4,000,000 ISK
Yet i see no record of any of the cruisers that were lost (the one was agent neo)
Aneu, send me the kill mails.
Originally by: Shamen CLS lost plenty of ships, but the one ill name here is the one that i found hillarous.
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
As iv mentioned before Seleene, you have to include a 'dummys guide in how to not get ganked' to the corporations you protect.
This was the only CLS BS loss of the war. Congrats.
Quote: if you want me to collect all the CLS we killed during our campaign i can do, but rememmber Seleene, bad publicity will kill your buisness, so please, stop hiding the facts and admit on a whole your defence was poor at best.
Thankfully, you are not the judge of that. 
Originally by: Shamen In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
Aneu, you make this far too easy for me. With this one statement, you invalidate anything else you might say.
CLS was under strict orders to NOT undock their battleships and engage your forces. Nowhere on our kill board, except for Dr. Sam's Tempest (which you killed because he did what he was ordered not to do), will you find a CLS battleship in a VOTF kill mail. You will also be hard pressed to find many cruisers.
Quote: FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
I refer you to Cyvok's earlier reply to this thread.
Quote: With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp
You realize that you completly ignored Coaster's post? I'm sorry, but produce something outside of CLS fig kills and the lone battleship. Show me the dozen cruisers or the indys filled with Megacyte that VOTF downed. There are none.
Quote: Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
From you, I consider this a compliment, Aneu. 
Originally by: Shamen Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
Yes, we did act as the net to make sure you guys could not jump back into Orv on two occasions by intent, one by accident.
As for Steel Vipers not "shifting" you? No. They pretty much blew the crap out of you that night. That's the last battle in the vid. At the request of STV, we waited exactly three minutes in Orv before jumping in and the footage of orange cans (VOTF) everywhere and about sixteen STV BS still firing is what you see.
This is the only reply you get from me, Aneu. I honestly don't get you. At times you seem to be an okay guy, but then you have to post crap like CLS having five battleships in a Coalition battle group. I mean, come on...  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:57:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Shamen In one single night myself and Redon took down 2 cruisers and 5 elites, just in pator, within a 10min fight in which i had the plessure of:-
2004.10.22 05:50:00 For your termination of Agent NeolithicalWolf we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 4,000,000 ISK
Yet i see no record of any of the cruisers that were lost (the one was agent neo)
Aneu, send me the kill mails.
Originally by: Shamen CLS lost plenty of ships, but the one ill name here is the one that i found hillarous.
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
As iv mentioned before Seleene, you have to include a 'dummys guide in how to not get ganked' to the corporations you protect.
This was the only CLS BS loss of the war. Congrats.
Quote: if you want me to collect all the CLS we killed during our campaign i can do, but rememmber Seleene, bad publicity will kill your buisness, so please, stop hiding the facts and admit on a whole your defence was poor at best.
Thankfully, you are not the judge of that. 
Originally by: Shamen In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
Aneu, you make this far too easy for me. With this one statement, you invalidate anything else you might say.
CLS was under strict orders to NOT undock their battleships and engage your forces. Nowhere on our kill board, except for Dr. Sam's Tempest (which you killed because he did what he was ordered not to do), will you find a CLS battleship in a VOTF kill mail. You will also be hard pressed to find many cruisers.
Quote: FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
I refer you to Cyvok's earlier reply to this thread.
Quote: With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp
You realize that you completly ignored Coaster's post? I'm sorry, but produce something outside of CLS fig kills and the lone battleship. Show me the dozen cruisers or the indys filled with Megacyte that VOTF downed. There are none.
Quote: Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
From you, I consider this a compliment, Aneu. 
Originally by: Shamen Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
Yes, we did act as the net to make sure you guys could not jump back into Orv on two occasions by intent, one by accident.
As for Steel Vipers not "shifting" you? No. They pretty much blew the crap out of you that night. That's the last battle in the vid. At the request of STV, we waited exactly three minutes in Orv before jumping in and the footage of orange cans (VOTF) everywhere and about sixteen STV BS still firing is what you see.
This is the only reply you get from me, Aneu. I honestly don't get you. At times you seem to be an okay guy, but then you have to post crap like CLS having five battleships in a Coalition battle group. I mean, come on...  -
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The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shamen
Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh
Your point of this post? You cant come up with some solid defence against my posts so here you are trying to make light of the situation?
Hah..
OK, you safespotted when we came to oppose you in PF at most of the occasions to my knowledge at least, therefor I brought out the comment "SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS" to let you know my feelings on the subject. I guess it wasn't clear enough for you. Hmmmm. Lets see. I dont care about numbers at all, so, here goes again. Our Contract was to ensure that CLS Miners and Agent Runners be able to venture through Empire space as safely as possible. Through keeping you busy however we did it however whatever who cares. CLS was able to keep up their work, and assemble a net profit in that time of 10 billion isk. In the eyes of our contractor, and my eyes, I dont see what the H*ll you are even doing here on this thread. Go whine alongside you breathren in Curse, as this thread is not the place for dispute of ANYTHING about this war other than how good of a job Seleene did on her video.
My PLEA to the Moderators is to clean up the nonsence in this thread as it is completely uncalled for a Video thread to become hijacked.
I see how it can be difficult to sit back and take a loss but, hey, what can ya do eh? ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:59:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Shamen
Originally by: The Burninator
Originally by: Shamen Edited by: Shamen on 21/11/2004 10:46:31
Quote: :arrow: PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
Yet another pathetic attempt to mis-direct the facts.
Its fact that BDCI and FRICK teamed up with some NORAD corporations when we were in PF, SV did not once shift us from PF and i can swear that here now.
And as you can see from your list of 'ratios' VOTF did indeed fight outnumbered atleast 50% of the time. And BDCI FRICK refused to engage unless we were outnumbered at the start of the fight.
Aneu
"SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS!!!" ROLF, you guys make me laugh
Your point of this post? You cant come up with some solid defence against my posts so here you are trying to make light of the situation?
Hah..
OK, you safespotted when we came to oppose you in PF at most of the occasions to my knowledge at least, therefor I brought out the comment "SAFESPOTS FELLAS SAFESPOTS" to let you know my feelings on the subject. I guess it wasn't clear enough for you. Hmmmm. Lets see. I dont care about numbers at all, so, here goes again. Our Contract was to ensure that CLS Miners and Agent Runners be able to venture through Empire space as safely as possible. Through keeping you busy however we did it however whatever who cares. CLS was able to keep up their work, and assemble a net profit in that time of 10 billion isk. In the eyes of our contractor, and my eyes, I dont see what the H*ll you are even doing here on this thread. Go whine alongside you breathren in Curse, as this thread is not the place for dispute of ANYTHING about this war other than how good of a job Seleene did on her video.
My PLEA to the Moderators is to clean up the nonsence in this thread as it is completely uncalled for a Video thread to become hijacked.
I see how it can be difficult to sit back and take a loss but, hey, what can ya do eh? ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
/emote hugs Omni.   -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
/emote hugs Omni.   -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:06:00 -
[193]
one of the top videos i've seen :)
great work seleene ! :)
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:06:00 -
[194]
one of the top videos i've seen :)
great work seleene ! :)
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:08:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Omniwar on 21/11/2004 11:14:56 Time and place for everything Shamen, just watch the vid, if you like it then compliment on it, if you dont like it then say so in a non argumentive fashion, like I didnt like the editing, or the music.
Dont be spoiling the thread by arguing about kills, losses, reason and what not, make a thread about, quote seleena there, dont kill the thread by having it locked cause in the end someone will get it locked, like I said, there is a time and place for everything, that time isnt now and this aint the place.
If people think a video is unjusty and doesnt show what really happens then do some fraps as well, if you cant do the movie, ie the editing and stuff then send the footage to someone who can, thats what I did and sent to rev 
But seriously this isnt a place to argue, we do that in other threads where it belongs.
ps, lol I wasnt meaning I didnt like the editing or the music, just an excample of how an usual critisizing is  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:08:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Omniwar on 21/11/2004 11:14:56 Time and place for everything Shamen, just watch the vid, if you like it then compliment on it, if you dont like it then say so in a non argumentive fashion, like I didnt like the editing, or the music.
Dont be spoiling the thread by arguing about kills, losses, reason and what not, make a thread about, quote seleena there, dont kill the thread by having it locked cause in the end someone will get it locked, like I said, there is a time and place for everything, that time isnt now and this aint the place.
If people think a video is unjusty and doesnt show what really happens then do some fraps as well, if you cant do the movie, ie the editing and stuff then send the footage to someone who can, thats what I did and sent to rev 
But seriously this isnt a place to argue, we do that in other threads where it belongs.
ps, lol I wasnt meaning I didnt like the editing or the music, just an excample of how an usual critisizing is  Spawn of the Devil
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Mistress "After the wholesale destruction of the CA pirate forces, Body Count and Sharks would have escorted the invaders back to their homelands, but they all had dual-MWDÆs on and were too quick..." 
LIES!!!
There are no pirates in CA - I tell you!
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:11:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Latex Mistress "After the wholesale destruction of the CA pirate forces, Body Count and Sharks would have escorted the invaders back to their homelands, but they all had dual-MWDÆs on and were too quick..." 
LIES!!!
There are no pirates in CA - I tell you!
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:12:00 -
[199]
The vid was . It made . I look at the comments from the forum and it makes me think of . Which wouldn't be far from the truth. So I read the posts from the  . I see them complain and stuff and get all or . At first i'm , then I and sayb "typical BS". But it's the standard M.O. for the  and I just and say "who cares what they think"
Posting for Numbnutz |

Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:12:00 -
[200]
The vid was . It made . I look at the comments from the forum and it makes me think of . Which wouldn't be far from the truth. So I read the posts from the  . I see them complain and stuff and get all or . At first i'm , then I and sayb "typical BS". But it's the standard M.O. for the  and I just and say "who cares what they think"
Posting for Numbnutz |

Snakebite
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:15:00 -
[201]
Very nice vid
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Snakebite
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:15:00 -
[202]
Very nice vid
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:20:00 -
[203]
Aye Awsome vid again.. --------------
Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:20:00 -
[204]
Aye Awsome vid again.. --------------
Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Digital D
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:29:00 -
[205]
All this flaming.. lol
Anyway yes Body Count kept us away from CLS operations but we couldn't really be bothered to fly all through empire to find there operations anyway when we realised CLS would not fight we just didn't care about the war anymore and went to PF-346 to see what NORAD we could kill.
Did you keep us trapped in PF-236 and out of empire.. Hell No
We were not really interested in the war with you either we went up into NORAD most nights and killed loads and got some nice loot took there stations and had some fun.
You may have killed a few of us and if you want to believe you won the fight go ahead.
btw: nice vid 
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Digital D
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:29:00 -
[206]
All this flaming.. lol
Anyway yes Body Count kept us away from CLS operations but we couldn't really be bothered to fly all through empire to find there operations anyway when we realised CLS would not fight we just didn't care about the war anymore and went to PF-346 to see what NORAD we could kill.
Did you keep us trapped in PF-236 and out of empire.. Hell No
We were not really interested in the war with you either we went up into NORAD most nights and killed loads and got some nice loot took there stations and had some fun.
You may have killed a few of us and if you want to believe you won the fight go ahead.
btw: nice vid 
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:35:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
http://cls.killboard.net
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:35:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
http://cls.killboard.net
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:36:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Latex Mistress Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:43:43 First, I would like to mark my first post by saying that this is the best EVE vid I've ever seen, next to the PA one with the "Baywatch" song. 8) Also, a sincere thanks to FRICK and CLS for one hell of a great war - it's the reason why I pay my money everymonth! Now, if I could just get the same fights out of everyone... Anyway, on to lend truth to flames from the lames:
Originally by: AvanCade i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1.
You need an eye exam and a couple of puffs from the Clue Hookah...
Merc:CA ratio in order shown on vid:
First battle: 12:8
Grinacane: 12:8
Ourapheh: (hard to tell, not enough room on the radar, but about 14:10)
Ourapheh: 9:11 (as more Venerable Old Tooth Fairies were destroyed or warped out, more Mercs/CLS warped in, totalling 13)
PF: 19:8
Grinacane: 12:9
Grinacane: 13:10 (not including obvious MF/R, Inc lackeys firing on us)
Yulai: 7:4
Grinacane: 9:11 before everyone got there, then 14:10, 14:12, 10:11, 10:13...
Orvolle: 18:8
Pator: 4:2 (one warped out immediately)
PF: 7:7
PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
All the 10:1 footage was pretty much the remnants of all the battles above, and that may be where your count is off. But I will not deny, but decry the numbers and tactics of the Merc Coalition and our allies in CLS.
Lastly I only counted the ORANGE targets at each battle, the PF battle numbers is very off because VOTF were teamed up with R, Inc and MF, who we were not at war with but still had to fight because VOTF refused to step back in to Empire where their new pirate friends could not attack...
Just trying to clear up any misconception. Oh, and Denali - the "bukkake fest" is on you, we all know it, so shut up and deal with it boy. 
Edit: My arrows didn't work!!!
As I said, i only counted the orange and purple thingies because thats the only thing i can be certain off.
Bottomline of me was that VOTF was 99% of the time outnumbered and thus Merc Coalition was merely ensuring the victory instead of trying claiming it.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:36:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Latex Mistress Edited by: Latex Mistress on 21/11/2004 10:43:43 First, I would like to mark my first post by saying that this is the best EVE vid I've ever seen, next to the PA one with the "Baywatch" song. 8) Also, a sincere thanks to FRICK and CLS for one hell of a great war - it's the reason why I pay my money everymonth! Now, if I could just get the same fights out of everyone... Anyway, on to lend truth to flames from the lames:
Originally by: AvanCade i watched carefully and saw VOTF always outnumbered by at least 2:1.
You need an eye exam and a couple of puffs from the Clue Hookah...
Merc:CA ratio in order shown on vid:
First battle: 12:8
Grinacane: 12:8
Ourapheh: (hard to tell, not enough room on the radar, but about 14:10)
Ourapheh: 9:11 (as more Venerable Old Tooth Fairies were destroyed or warped out, more Mercs/CLS warped in, totalling 13)
PF: 19:8
Grinacane: 12:9
Grinacane: 13:10 (not including obvious MF/R, Inc lackeys firing on us)
Yulai: 7:4
Grinacane: 9:11 before everyone got there, then 14:10, 14:12, 10:11, 10:13...
Orvolle: 18:8
Pator: 4:2 (one warped out immediately)
PF: 7:7
PF: VOTF, MF, and R, Inc were destroyed by SteelVipers before we got there so no count...
All the 10:1 footage was pretty much the remnants of all the battles above, and that may be where your count is off. But I will not deny, but decry the numbers and tactics of the Merc Coalition and our allies in CLS.
Lastly I only counted the ORANGE targets at each battle, the PF battle numbers is very off because VOTF were teamed up with R, Inc and MF, who we were not at war with but still had to fight because VOTF refused to step back in to Empire where their new pirate friends could not attack...
Just trying to clear up any misconception. Oh, and Denali - the "bukkake fest" is on you, we all know it, so shut up and deal with it boy. 
Edit: My arrows didn't work!!!
As I said, i only counted the orange and purple thingies because thats the only thing i can be certain off.
Bottomline of me was that VOTF was 99% of the time outnumbered and thus Merc Coalition was merely ensuring the victory instead of trying claiming it.
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:46:00 -
[211]
Good job! The video is b.e.a.utiful! Nice storytelling narrative (which most of the EVE vids lack), great ambient movie soundtrack that fits, very nice audio sync, great, smooth continuity - both in editing and narrative, nice TS recordings.
CCP ought to put a relic in space for Sel's magnificent quality community films, not for the wars - but for the films. I showed this video to a few non-EVE players and 3 of them created accounts straight away :)
Next contract, next vid, please :)
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:46:00 -
[212]
Good job! The video is b.e.a.utiful! Nice storytelling narrative (which most of the EVE vids lack), great ambient movie soundtrack that fits, very nice audio sync, great, smooth continuity - both in editing and narrative, nice TS recordings.
CCP ought to put a relic in space for Sel's magnificent quality community films, not for the wars - but for the films. I showed this video to a few non-EVE players and 3 of them created accounts straight away :)
Next contract, next vid, please :)
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:51:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Crohnx Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
You must seriously be blind, look for Shamen or Aneu.
You'l see me. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 11:51:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Crohnx Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
You must seriously be blind, look for Shamen or Aneu.
You'l see me. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:01:00 -
[215]
Also Seleene, the CLS battleship i killed wasnt the only one, VOTF are cullating the list now. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:01:00 -
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Also Seleene, the CLS battleship i killed wasnt the only one, VOTF are cullating the list now. _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Sjoor
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:01:00 -
[217]
Loved watching this Vid Seleene. Was a great time to fly as suicide wingman.
Looking forward to next footage.
Sjoor
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Sjoor
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:01:00 -
[218]
Loved watching this Vid Seleene. Was a great time to fly as suicide wingman.
Looking forward to next footage.
Sjoor
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Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:05:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Seleene
As for Steel Vipers not "shifting" you? No. They pretty much blew the crap out of you that night. That's the last battle in the vid. At the request of STV, we waited exactly three minutes in Orv before jumping in and the footage of orange cans (VOTF) everywhere and about sixteen STV BS still firing is what you see.
Also i just got confirmation of 1 battleship loss in this engagement. Sorry Seleene, try harder next time  _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Shamen
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:05:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Seleene
As for Steel Vipers not "shifting" you? No. They pretty much blew the crap out of you that night. That's the last battle in the vid. At the request of STV, we waited exactly three minutes in Orv before jumping in and the footage of orange cans (VOTF) everywhere and about sixteen STV BS still firing is what you see.
Also i just got confirmation of 1 battleship loss in this engagement. Sorry Seleene, try harder next time  _______________________ Vengeance Of The Fallen Shamen - Captain & Forum warrior |

Carth Jared
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:15:00 -
[221]
Great video still got goosebumps from the music 
A nice addon was reading this thread, watchin all the kids of curse(koc?) come runnin and screamin "foul!" like their life depended on it  
Get over it laddies  ATUK Killboard | 5 Killboard
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:15:00 -
[222]
Great video still got goosebumps from the music 
A nice addon was reading this thread, watchin all the kids of curse(koc?) come runnin and screamin "foul!" like their life depended on it  
Get over it laddies  ATUK Killboard | 5 Killboard
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drsam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: drsam on 21/11/2004 12:31:06 ok, lets clear up this mess about VOTF killing my shiny little tempest
i was just logged on when the call came, enemy in yulai ok, since i remembered fighting in yulai last night ( and too stupid to check what system i was in .. should of been yulai, DED station but, surprise-surprise it was pator ) i undocked in a tempest and saw some fighting and orange dots on my radar:
2004.10.19 19:50:00
Victim: BloWTorcH Corporation: Stronghold corp Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: drsam (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Cataclysm Cruise Missile I
2004.10.19 19:54:00
Victim: Aneu Angellus Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Destroyed Type: Rifter Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: drsam (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Cataclysm Cruise Missile I
after those kills i was waiting for backup to arrive, but oh well .. by the time i realized what system i was in:
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Juggernaut Torpedo I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Unknown
so yes, i lost a BS to VOTF, but don't blame BDCI about hiding that fact, since they just didn't know
p.s. gratz Aneu, some nice tactics you used
*drsam sticks a note on his pods navigation screen: always check what system you are in 
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drsam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: drsam on 21/11/2004 12:31:06 ok, lets clear up this mess about VOTF killing my shiny little tempest
i was just logged on when the call came, enemy in yulai ok, since i remembered fighting in yulai last night ( and too stupid to check what system i was in .. should of been yulai, DED station but, surprise-surprise it was pator ) i undocked in a tempest and saw some fighting and orange dots on my radar:
2004.10.19 19:50:00
Victim: BloWTorcH Corporation: Stronghold corp Destroyed Type: Capsule Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: drsam (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Cataclysm Cruise Missile I
2004.10.19 19:54:00
Victim: Aneu Angellus Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Destroyed Type: Rifter Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: drsam (laid the final blow) Security Status: 0.7 Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Cataclysm Cruise Missile I
after those kills i was waiting for backup to arrive, but oh well .. by the time i realized what system i was in:
2004.10.19 19:59:00
Victim: drsam Corporation: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed Type: Tempest Solar System: Pator System Security Level: 1.0
Involved parties:
Name: Shamen (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Juggernaut Torpedo I
Name: Aneu Angellus Security Status: 0.5 Corporation: Vengeance of the Fallen Ship Type: Tempest Weapon Type: Unknown
so yes, i lost a BS to VOTF, but don't blame BDCI about hiding that fact, since they just didn't know
p.s. gratz Aneu, some nice tactics you used
*drsam sticks a note on his pods navigation screen: always check what system you are in 
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:34:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Shamen Also i just got confirmation of 1 battleship loss in this engagement. Sorry Seleene, try harder next time 
See? It is as I suspect!
The lying, cowardly b*st*rds of Body Count were not even in Empire! Because of the lies of that b*tch-Queen Seleene and her pack of wretched infidel dogs, EVE now knows that CA is triumphant! Aneu, our faithful and honorable holy leader has spoken!
And CLS, you cowardly dogs! Dr. Sam is no doctor at all, but a naughty, lying nurse! Yes! I tell you, it's all true!!!
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Baghdad Xirtam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:34:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Shamen Also i just got confirmation of 1 battleship loss in this engagement. Sorry Seleene, try harder next time 
See? It is as I suspect!
The lying, cowardly b*st*rds of Body Count were not even in Empire! Because of the lies of that b*tch-Queen Seleene and her pack of wretched infidel dogs, EVE now knows that CA is triumphant! Aneu, our faithful and honorable holy leader has spoken!
And CLS, you cowardly dogs! Dr. Sam is no doctor at all, but a naughty, lying nurse! Yes! I tell you, it's all true!!!
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:09:00 -
[227]
nice touch with the TS commands.
congrats on a cool vid.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:09:00 -
[228]
nice touch with the TS commands.
congrats on a cool vid.
d solo.
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Shalmaneser ili
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:12:00 -
[229]
thats a fkin awesome video
and to all those ppl yappin 
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Shalmaneser ili
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:12:00 -
[230]
thats a fkin awesome video
and to all those ppl yappin 
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:19:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 21/11/2004 13:23:21 /emote wades through the piles of horse **** some CA propagandists produce.
Been fighting CA for a while now, and sometimes I really wonder if they play on just SiSi in stead of TQ.. ohwell :)
One thing I think this awesome vid shows is that Dual MWD doesn't need a nerf :) Nerf Damage mods, tactics, sensor boosters, dampeners and any other type of specialized fitting, CCP! :(
I've been in my fair share of fleet battles when I was still part of an 0.0 corp and I can tell you, the lag during that battle in Ourapheh where Danks' scorp and Latex' scorp got blown up was system lag. I hardely ever have client side lag and if I do it's either because I'm running FRAPS or because there's simply TOO MUCH going on :)
I could move my mouse freely, click any buttons but NOTHING was happening. Reason for this was that PIE was having a big battle at the Manarq gate while we were trying to slug it out at the Yulai gate. comprendre seniors?
Check with the GMs if you want to and then shut up. Or let's count those two Scorps lost due to "lag" (which really isn't lag, but a server node screwing up majorly) and count your 2 Ravens that got ganked by Concord.
It's so sad, the majority of CA corps are actually nice guys that you can have a laugh with. It's the 16 year old Counterstrike addicted wannabe schoolyard bullies that can do nothing more than smacktalk like overexcited virgins on promnight that ruin the reputation of a lot of people.
I'm done here, enjoy the viddie, 'cause it's a masterpiece Seleene! ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:19:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 21/11/2004 13:23:21 /emote wades through the piles of horse **** some CA propagandists produce.
Been fighting CA for a while now, and sometimes I really wonder if they play on just SiSi in stead of TQ.. ohwell :)
One thing I think this awesome vid shows is that Dual MWD doesn't need a nerf :) Nerf Damage mods, tactics, sensor boosters, dampeners and any other type of specialized fitting, CCP! :(
I've been in my fair share of fleet battles when I was still part of an 0.0 corp and I can tell you, the lag during that battle in Ourapheh where Danks' scorp and Latex' scorp got blown up was system lag. I hardely ever have client side lag and if I do it's either because I'm running FRAPS or because there's simply TOO MUCH going on :)
I could move my mouse freely, click any buttons but NOTHING was happening. Reason for this was that PIE was having a big battle at the Manarq gate while we were trying to slug it out at the Yulai gate. comprendre seniors?
Check with the GMs if you want to and then shut up. Or let's count those two Scorps lost due to "lag" (which really isn't lag, but a server node screwing up majorly) and count your 2 Ravens that got ganked by Concord.
It's so sad, the majority of CA corps are actually nice guys that you can have a laugh with. It's the 16 year old Counterstrike addicted wannabe schoolyard bullies that can do nothing more than smacktalk like overexcited virgins on promnight that ruin the reputation of a lot of people.
I'm done here, enjoy the viddie, 'cause it's a masterpiece Seleene! ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Selki
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:22:00 -
[233]
Very nice video there Seleene, look forward to seeing more.
P.s: we all wub ya!
---------- "I once went through 19 systems in one jump, too bad it was a clone jump" |

Selki
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:22:00 -
[234]
Very nice video there Seleene, look forward to seeing more.
P.s: we all wub ya!
---------- "I once went through 19 systems in one jump, too bad it was a clone jump" |

Cucumber
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:29:00 -
[235]
Very nice video.... the use of TeamSpeak in the background as well made it much better imo .
---- My alt-mobile was a victim of Grand Theft Auto. Fear the vegetable. |

Cucumber
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:29:00 -
[236]
Very nice video.... the use of TeamSpeak in the background as well made it much better imo .
---- My alt-mobile was a victim of Grand Theft Auto. Fear the vegetable. |

Han'Ek Tola
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:30:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Han'Ek Tola on 21/11/2004 13:33:23 Very nice vid. I know it is hard work to put it all together but the results we see lately makes it clear that these vids should be used as promotional material for eve. Cant get much better then this.
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Han'Ek Tola
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:30:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Han'Ek Tola on 21/11/2004 13:33:23 Very nice vid. I know it is hard work to put it all together but the results we see lately makes it clear that these vids should be used as promotional material for eve. Cant get much better then this.
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:33:00 -
[239]
i would be surprised if this would be allowed a general release as it is with reference to some of the quotes and language used within the film. But generally with a little bit of family friendly tweaking i think it would make great promotional material 
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:33:00 -
[240]
i would be surprised if this would be allowed a general release as it is with reference to some of the quotes and language used within the film. But generally with a little bit of family friendly tweaking i think it would make great promotional material 
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:35:00 -
[241]
Nice work Seleene.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.11.21 13:35:00 -
[242]
Nice work Seleene.
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:11:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Leafo on 21/11/2004 14:14:52

You already know in detail what i think of this video Seleene but I have to write something here anyway.
This video is by far the best one you have produced so far Seleene. You have succeded in doing something that is very hard to accomplish. Namely taking massive amount of material covering one massive campaign, stripping it down and making it into a very interesting and entertaining video!
It is very difficult to make this kind of projekt work compared the the ordinary battle-videos. But imo, and looking at the responses in this thread, you have succeded! Great work!
And it's nice to see I managed to lurk in my name in the end-credits. Happy to (still) be able to help out! 
For all you flamers in this thread: Fight the fight in space or fight in the same arena here on the forums. Make your own video that states your side of the story if you feel that Seleenes video is inaccurate. Personally from what I know about Seleene I would think it is pretty accurate and that the flaming is merely a desperate attemt to regain some degree of honor. Just my personal view of it... Flame away!
Keep it up Seleene! I might have to make a new video soon in order to keep some of my audience 
//Leafo
click on sig for all my videos
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:11:00 -
[244]
Edited by: Leafo on 21/11/2004 14:14:52

You already know in detail what i think of this video Seleene but I have to write something here anyway.
This video is by far the best one you have produced so far Seleene. You have succeded in doing something that is very hard to accomplish. Namely taking massive amount of material covering one massive campaign, stripping it down and making it into a very interesting and entertaining video!
It is very difficult to make this kind of projekt work compared the the ordinary battle-videos. But imo, and looking at the responses in this thread, you have succeded! Great work!
And it's nice to see I managed to lurk in my name in the end-credits. Happy to (still) be able to help out! 
For all you flamers in this thread: Fight the fight in space or fight in the same arena here on the forums. Make your own video that states your side of the story if you feel that Seleenes video is inaccurate. Personally from what I know about Seleene I would think it is pretty accurate and that the flaming is merely a desperate attemt to regain some degree of honor. Just my personal view of it... Flame away!
Keep it up Seleene! I might have to make a new video soon in order to keep some of my audience 
//Leafo
click on sig for all my videos
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Leegion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:48:00 -
[245]
Nice video to start my day 
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Leegion
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:48:00 -
[246]
Nice video to start my day 
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Caanan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:55:00 -
[247]
best video of all, and I have 200 videos on my computer the ts commands made it seem very professional, good job
btw leafo where have you been? since my move up north I haven't seen you anywhere
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Caanan
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:55:00 -
[248]
best video of all, and I have 200 videos on my computer the ts commands made it seem very professional, good job
btw leafo where have you been? since my move up north I haven't seen you anywhere
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The End
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:57:00 -
[249]
Edited by: The End on 21/11/2004 15:00:54 Much props to VOTF for taking on all those corps in the area from the merc corps in empire - norad
and coming out on top.
F-E also declared war on CLS and they were nowhere to be found. and whatever we did find, quite simply died
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The End
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Posted - 2004.11.21 14:57:00 -
[250]
Edited by: The End on 21/11/2004 15:00:54 Much props to VOTF for taking on all those corps in the area from the merc corps in empire - norad
and coming out on top.
F-E also declared war on CLS and they were nowhere to be found. and whatever we did find, quite simply died
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:05:00 -
[251]
Seleene i loved it. A good watch indeed =)
-- Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:05:00 -
[252]
Seleene i loved it. A good watch indeed =)
-- Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Eldar Curunirr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:21:00 -
[253]
Killer video seleene
eldar
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Eldar Curunirr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:21:00 -
[254]
Killer video seleene
eldar
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Karhig Duruckhai
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:35:00 -
[255]
Another excellent video, you are to be congratulated on both it and the war. Was a little on the long side for my 5 minute attention span to cope with though 
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Karhig Duruckhai
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:35:00 -
[256]
Another excellent video, you are to be congratulated on both it and the war. Was a little on the long side for my 5 minute attention span to cope with though 
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:37:00 -
[257]
wow, ad ummm, awesome... would make a great vid to advertise eve.  ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:37:00 -
[258]
wow, ad ummm, awesome... would make a great vid to advertise eve.  ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:55:00 -
[259]
Seleene...if there ever was a movie to get butt nekked to THIS IS IT! 
Dud, i mean, yeah...for real..this...is so good...ya know...pfft...WOOOOOOOW! Music, voice overs, battles (first big one was awesome!), the row of crows... The list goes on and on!
Regards, LOWA ps.By the way, if you do not make something as big as this again you might have me on your doorstep one day in the condition mentioned above...
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |

Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.21 15:55:00 -
[260]
Seleene...if there ever was a movie to get butt nekked to THIS IS IT! 
Dud, i mean, yeah...for real..this...is so good...ya know...pfft...WOOOOOOOW! Music, voice overs, battles (first big one was awesome!), the row of crows... The list goes on and on!
Regards, LOWA ps.By the way, if you do not make something as big as this again you might have me on your doorstep one day in the condition mentioned above...
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:16:00 -
[261]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 21/11/2004 16:19:40
Originally by: Crohnx Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
Maybe its because, you dont know which name he flew under or your blind as a mole , I can assure you he was there beside me
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:16:00 -
[262]
Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 21/11/2004 16:19:40
Originally by: Crohnx Edited by: Crohnx on 21/11/2004 11:41:29
Originally by: Shamen No you totaly miss my point, they willingly participate in PVP yet they dont get listed when they die?
In a BDCI/FRICK fleet there would usually be atleast 5 CLS Battleships in the mix, in which we would aim for, yet they dont get listed?
FRICK/SHARKS get their losses listed and here Seleene is trying to brag how 'we didnt loose that many' yet what she needs to rememmber is, her losses are of no consiquence to us, we aimed to dent CLS and we indeed managed to.
With all the CLS losses BDCI and SHARKS would look like a novice merc corp, yet here we are geting preached to by Seleene on how good they are!
Its mis-direction and manipulation at its best.
Aneu
Can someone pls put some silver tape on his big childish mouth. Hes the only pilot i know which was not seen in battles yet he knows everything. Hell i should call him for my colege exams ...
Maybe its because, you dont know which name he flew under or your blind as a mole , I can assure you he was there beside me
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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WildHope
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:31:00 -
[263]
Great vid Great propaganda
OOC
I can understand the need for this sort of propaganda. To be successful as mercenaries, BDCI need to have positive marketing. VOTF know the truth, they don't NEED to prove themselves to anyone, they are already acknowledged as one of the premier PvP corps in Eve.
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |

WildHope
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:31:00 -
[264]
Great vid Great propaganda
OOC
I can understand the need for this sort of propaganda. To be successful as mercenaries, BDCI need to have positive marketing. VOTF know the truth, they don't NEED to prove themselves to anyone, they are already acknowledged as one of the premier PvP corps in Eve.
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:44:00 -
[265]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 16:49:25
Thank you once again to everyone who has given this vid a positive review. 
Originally by: WildHope Great vid Great propaganda
OOC
I can understand the need for this sort of propaganda. To be successful as mercenaries, BDCI need to have positive marketing. VOTF know the truth, they don't NEED to prove themselves to anyone, they are already acknowledged as one of the premier PvP corps in Eve.
Propaganda? Hmmm... sooooo.... nothing in the vid actually... really took place? Are you Baghdad Xirtam? 
You know what? We have nothing to prove either. The facts and the footage pretty much says it all. You speak of propaganda. So what is your response supposed to be? It's not like you, a CA corp, is going to willingly let another CA corp look bad. Gimme a break. 
One other thing: there were two mercenary corps involved in this. BDCI and FRICK worked together. In no way should you casually dismiss the contributions of the FRICK pilots on the battlefield.
Actually... wait. Now that I think about it, maybe it would be best if you, and everyone else, consider us total nubs. Spread the word. We suck. Underestimate us. VOTF did at first.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:44:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Seleene on 21/11/2004 16:49:25
Thank you once again to everyone who has given this vid a positive review. 
Originally by: WildHope Great vid Great propaganda
OOC
I can understand the need for this sort of propaganda. To be successful as mercenaries, BDCI need to have positive marketing. VOTF know the truth, they don't NEED to prove themselves to anyone, they are already acknowledged as one of the premier PvP corps in Eve.
Propaganda? Hmmm... sooooo.... nothing in the vid actually... really took place? Are you Baghdad Xirtam? 
You know what? We have nothing to prove either. The facts and the footage pretty much says it all. You speak of propaganda. So what is your response supposed to be? It's not like you, a CA corp, is going to willingly let another CA corp look bad. Gimme a break. 
One other thing: there were two mercenary corps involved in this. BDCI and FRICK worked together. In no way should you casually dismiss the contributions of the FRICK pilots on the battlefield.
Actually... wait. Now that I think about it, maybe it would be best if you, and everyone else, consider us total nubs. Spread the word. We suck. Underestimate us. VOTF did at first.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Karmic
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:47:00 -
[267]
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!!!! I SAW MY NAME IN THE CREDITS !!!!!!        As always Seleene an amazing vid and a always a pleasure to work with BDCI. - - - - - - - - -
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Karmic
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:47:00 -
[268]
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!!!! I SAW MY NAME IN THE CREDITS !!!!!!        As always Seleene an amazing vid and a always a pleasure to work with BDCI. - - - - - - - - -
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:48:00 -
[269]
Taken from the BDCI forums:
"835 Downloads and 27gb of bandwidth."
Nutz :) Not even 24hrz after the release :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:48:00 -
[270]
Taken from the BDCI forums:
"835 Downloads and 27gb of bandwidth."
Nutz :) Not even 24hrz after the release :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:52:00 -
[271]
Awesome vid. Mucho respect
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:52:00 -
[272]
Awesome vid. Mucho respect
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:54:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Karmic OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!!!! I SAW MY NAME IN THE CREDITS !!!!!!
Karmic, you deserve it.
Karmic 4 teh win!
You were there every night and kicked ass. You rock, dude!  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:54:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Karmic OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!!!! I SAW MY NAME IN THE CREDITS !!!!!!
Karmic, you deserve it.
Karmic 4 teh win!
You were there every night and kicked ass. You rock, dude!  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Danks
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:58:00 -
[275]
And the oscar goes to.... Seleene!
Very, very nice Vid. Got a chuckle out of the Bill O'Reilly quote 
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Danks
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Posted - 2004.11.21 16:58:00 -
[276]
And the oscar goes to.... Seleene!
Very, very nice Vid. Got a chuckle out of the Bill O'Reilly quote 
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:05:00 -
[277]
*steals seleene's oscar*
ow my head!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:05:00 -
[278]
*steals seleene's oscar*
ow my head!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:15:00 -
[279]
I knew I wouldn't be disappointed, you got great skills at vid making Seleene so don't stop them coming 
I agree also that the TS bits were a very nice touch too, kinda puts the human element into the game 
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:15:00 -
[280]
I knew I wouldn't be disappointed, you got great skills at vid making Seleene so don't stop them coming 
I agree also that the TS bits were a very nice touch too, kinda puts the human element into the game 
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Derekian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:29:00 -
[281]
Since i haven't watched all the previous videos i downloaded all of them today and just finished watching them.
Each and every one of these vids are freaking amazing
Very good job, can't wait to see more
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Derekian
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:29:00 -
[282]
Since i haven't watched all the previous videos i downloaded all of them today and just finished watching them.
Each and every one of these vids are freaking amazing
Very good job, can't wait to see more
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Foyle
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:30:00 -
[283]
Respect, the vid was AWESOME! *applauds*
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Foyle
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:30:00 -
[284]
Respect, the vid was AWESOME! *applauds*
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Sheriff Justice
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:38:00 -
[285]
If BDCI is nothing to worry about as some in CA are saying here, why do you keep trying to hire us?
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." Socrates
SJ
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Sheriff Justice
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:38:00 -
[286]
If BDCI is nothing to worry about as some in CA are saying here, why do you keep trying to hire us?
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." Socrates
SJ
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SamuraiJack
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:58:00 -
[287]
Seleene. Major ****ing woody. Major props.
to all the forum *****s... get real. =- Jack Radio - Fridays have never been so good. Infamous and Shameless. |

SamuraiJack
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:58:00 -
[288]
Seleene. Major ****ing woody. Major props.
to all the forum *****s... get real. =- Jack Radio - Fridays have never been so good. Infamous and Shameless. |

Pitwebb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:59:00 -
[289]
That was an amazing video! Good use of music, camera does not pan around. Job well done.
-Pit
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Pitwebb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 17:59:00 -
[290]
That was an amazing video! Good use of music, camera does not pan around. Job well done.
-Pit
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:17:00 -
[291]
Edited by: Stained on 21/11/2004 18:20:26 I think Seleene said it best, "The war against CLS, by any standard, failed."
Which is completley true.
P.S.: Movie rocked. ANyone else get that Rocky type feelign while watching it?
___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:17:00 -
[292]
Edited by: Stained on 21/11/2004 18:20:26 I think Seleene said it best, "The war against CLS, by any standard, failed."
Which is completley true.
P.S.: Movie rocked. ANyone else get that Rocky type feelign while watching it?
___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:47:00 -
[293]
You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:47:00 -
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You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 18:51:43 No nearly, this video really wasnt on the level of the NSN Corporation at all. I prefer NSN films videos.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Default.asp?a=download&vid=127 So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dentali on 21/11/2004 18:51:43 No nearly, this video really wasnt on the level of the NSN Corporation at all. I prefer NSN films videos.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Default.asp?a=download&vid=127 So is said. |

Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Your just jealous.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:48:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Your just jealous.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Dude, like duuuuuude.
You strike me as a sore looser, like really sore  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:49:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Dude, like duuuuuude.
You strike me as a sore looser, like really sore  Spawn of the Devil
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:50:00 -
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Lost nothing? So whats the deal? BDCI lost as much as VOTF in insurance costs because of their need for elite ships. I posted the details on that earlier. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:50:00 -
[302]
Lost nothing? So whats the deal? BDCI lost as much as VOTF in insurance costs because of their need for elite ships. I posted the details on that earlier. So is said. |

Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali Lost nothing? So whats the deal? BDCI lost as much as VOTF in insurance costs because of their need for elite ships. I posted the details on that earlier.
Then why all the negativity and flaming ?
I dont get it but you still strike me as a sore looser, you may not have lost on that I have no idea, but man do you act like it. Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali Lost nothing? So whats the deal? BDCI lost as much as VOTF in insurance costs because of their need for elite ships. I posted the details on that earlier.
Then why all the negativity and flaming ?
I dont get it but you still strike me as a sore looser, you may not have lost on that I have no idea, but man do you act like it. Spawn of the Devil
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:55:00 -
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Nice Vid..
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:55:00 -
[306]
Nice Vid..
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Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:58:00 -
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Great vid Seleene, your best yet.
I can't wait to see the next BIG video 
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Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:58:00 -
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Great vid Seleene, your best yet.
I can't wait to see the next BIG video 
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<Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
The NSN films are without doubt superb and i am a huge fans. However they are not in the same style and do not have the same brief. The PA war video dealt in the macro scale, the BDCI video in the micro scale, there are elements in each which are suitable or applicable for each other - a good example would be that of the TS recordings from the battles, they wouldn't work on the PA war vid but they work beuatifully for us showing how a critical battle in the war was won.
Dentali you have consistently flamed and i would say issue bare faced lies within this thread before rapidly retracting and editing your posts. All you do is flame over the same tired old ground and argue the same facts and figures. Offers have been made to VOTF to provide any additional infomation to our killboards which we will honestly add. Offers have also been made for you to provide fraps of your own or produce fraps of your own. I dont know what futher can be offered to ensure a genuine and fair picture. All VOTF has produced on this is a zelota video iwith about 25 seconds of you trying to catch burn and yes there is a reason the video cuts very suddenly there, the same with the blackbird shot before going back to the constant gank videos I hardly feel you are in a position to comment.
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Sivona
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
The NSN films are without doubt superb and i am a huge fans. However they are not in the same style and do not have the same brief. The PA war video dealt in the macro scale, the BDCI video in the micro scale, there are elements in each which are suitable or applicable for each other - a good example would be that of the TS recordings from the battles, they wouldn't work on the PA war vid but they work beuatifully for us showing how a critical battle in the war was won.
Dentali you have consistently flamed and i would say issue bare faced lies within this thread before rapidly retracting and editing your posts. All you do is flame over the same tired old ground and argue the same facts and figures. Offers have been made to VOTF to provide any additional infomation to our killboards which we will honestly add. Offers have also been made for you to provide fraps of your own or produce fraps of your own. I dont know what futher can be offered to ensure a genuine and fair picture. All VOTF has produced on this is a zelota video iwith about 25 seconds of you trying to catch burn and yes there is a reason the video cuts very suddenly there, the same with the blackbird shot before going back to the constant gank videos I hardly feel you are in a position to comment.
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stained
Originally by: Dentali
Originally by: Stained Dude, your making yourself seem like a crying baby. To quote your corpmates "Want a ****ing tissue?"
wtf? hahahahahaha your so rediculous.
hey, just because the truth is here about the war and this video doesnt mean you have to ***** about it and go off INSULTING people, like oh my god, weve been at this 2 days now, the insults, the slander, ect ect. hahahahaha
this is fun.
sorry fellow eve players, these 8 pages arent even worth your time, but its there if you wanna check it out, check out the killboards too, youll find that under the basis that all ships were platinum insured, BDCI/FRICK lost approximately 21 mil more than VOTF.  
Wah Wah Wah? Sounds like some ones starting teething!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! GOOD ONE!
Lets keep quoting each other and streching out this thread til its locked or removed! WOOOT! So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Stained
Originally by: Dentali
Originally by: Stained Dude, your making yourself seem like a crying baby. To quote your corpmates "Want a ****ing tissue?"
wtf? hahahahahaha your so rediculous.
hey, just because the truth is here about the war and this video doesnt mean you have to ***** about it and go off INSULTING people, like oh my god, weve been at this 2 days now, the insults, the slander, ect ect. hahahahaha
this is fun.
sorry fellow eve players, these 8 pages arent even worth your time, but its there if you wanna check it out, check out the killboards too, youll find that under the basis that all ships were platinum insured, BDCI/FRICK lost approximately 21 mil more than VOTF.  
Wah Wah Wah? Sounds like some ones starting teething!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! GOOD ONE!
Lets keep quoting each other and streching out this thread til its locked or removed! WOOOT! So is said. |

Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:14:00 -
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Only a 5min download for me. Great vid. But as the rest of you read all this chest puffing, go ahead and look at the scanner in all those engagements... I counted maybe 1-2 semi-equal fights out of the whole video. So, can we all stop the petty smacktalking?
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Daehkthar Raehm
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:14:00 -
[314]
Only a 5min download for me. Great vid. But as the rest of you read all this chest puffing, go ahead and look at the scanner in all those engagements... I counted maybe 1-2 semi-equal fights out of the whole video. So, can we all stop the petty smacktalking?
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Daehkthar Raehm Only a 5min download for me. Great vid. But as the rest of you read all this chest puffing, go ahead and look at the scanner in all those engagements... I counted maybe 1-2 semi-equal fights out of the whole video. So, can we all stop the petty smacktalking?
No man, according to Kids of Curse [KOC] the war wasnt like the film at all, and in fact they won by 21 MILLION ISK, that must be heard, IT MUST BE HEARD  Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Daehkthar Raehm Only a 5min download for me. Great vid. But as the rest of you read all this chest puffing, go ahead and look at the scanner in all those engagements... I counted maybe 1-2 semi-equal fights out of the whole video. So, can we all stop the petty smacktalking?
No man, according to Kids of Curse [KOC] the war wasnt like the film at all, and in fact they won by 21 MILLION ISK, that must be heard, IT MUST BE HEARD  Spawn of the Devil
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EternalDark
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:27:00 -
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A few thoughts:
1: If votf had been aware that CLS main pvp force did not reside in empire space we would not have declared war on them. We were misinformed, but figuring this out after the first two days our mission changed.
2: Norad becomes our main focus, with sharks, body count, mercenary forces and the celestial horizon frigate squad as a secondary distraction.
3: The losses to kills that I have seen are unfortunatly 1:1 on just about everything from bs's to support craft, I say unfortunate because our kill ratio is usually much higher.
4: Once MF joined the dark side I knew that if any kill statistics were released they would not be included to I shrug my shoulders at that little indescepency.
5: numbers wise votf was fighting 8 corporate wars during this empire campaign and at some times we didn't have enough bs's + support craft to keep up with the combined mercs and cls support craft.
6: There were alot of good battles, sharks and body count together are a formidible enemy.
7: VOTF took several bs losses and of course my frig/cruiser suicide fleets left in pods, and evaped alot of inties cruisers in the process.
In the end we had fun, and this excursion helped build our corporation up to the size we are now. We slaughtered NORAD and all we made out like bandits. It's to bad some of you just can't keep your mouths shut and understand that everyone won this war, from thier persepective.
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EternalDark
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:27:00 -
[318]
A few thoughts:
1: If votf had been aware that CLS main pvp force did not reside in empire space we would not have declared war on them. We were misinformed, but figuring this out after the first two days our mission changed.
2: Norad becomes our main focus, with sharks, body count, mercenary forces and the celestial horizon frigate squad as a secondary distraction.
3: The losses to kills that I have seen are unfortunatly 1:1 on just about everything from bs's to support craft, I say unfortunate because our kill ratio is usually much higher.
4: Once MF joined the dark side I knew that if any kill statistics were released they would not be included to I shrug my shoulders at that little indescepency.
5: numbers wise votf was fighting 8 corporate wars during this empire campaign and at some times we didn't have enough bs's + support craft to keep up with the combined mercs and cls support craft.
6: There were alot of good battles, sharks and body count together are a formidible enemy.
7: VOTF took several bs losses and of course my frig/cruiser suicide fleets left in pods, and evaped alot of inties cruisers in the process.
In the end we had fun, and this excursion helped build our corporation up to the size we are now. We slaughtered NORAD and all we made out like bandits. It's to bad some of you just can't keep your mouths shut and understand that everyone won this war, from thier persepective.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:44:00 -
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TBH I think VOTF actually didnt insure all their ships, thats why they are so upset, aprt from ED which seems cool about it, its just them damn KOC's (Kids Of Curse) which take it hard on them and act like sore loosers, which is strange though SINCE VOTF WON BY 21 MILLION UNITS OF ISK.
Come to think of it, I wonder who had more expencive stuff fitted on their ships, personally I think VOTF, perhaps thats where all the bitterness comes from ?
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:44:00 -
[320]
TBH I think VOTF actually didnt insure all their ships, thats why they are so upset, aprt from ED which seems cool about it, its just them damn KOC's (Kids Of Curse) which take it hard on them and act like sore loosers, which is strange though SINCE VOTF WON BY 21 MILLION UNITS OF ISK.
Come to think of it, I wonder who had more expencive stuff fitted on their ships, personally I think VOTF, perhaps thats where all the bitterness comes from ?
Spawn of the Devil
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:53:00 -
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Thats a damn good video.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:53:00 -
[322]
Thats a damn good video.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:53:00 -
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Seems to me that numbers of ships are irrelevant in these things.
ISK value of losses - ISK value of reclaimed insurance is the important one.
Im not bothered with working it out.
And to the BDCI who says "we have nothing to prove"...Wtf? Of course you do! your a merc corp, proving yourself is what makes you money! If you didnt post a "wow we wtfpwnd them" post every contract you have, then people would stop paying you.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.11.21 19:53:00 -
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Seems to me that numbers of ships are irrelevant in these things.
ISK value of losses - ISK value of reclaimed insurance is the important one.
Im not bothered with working it out.
And to the BDCI who says "we have nothing to prove"...Wtf? Of course you do! your a merc corp, proving yourself is what makes you money! If you didnt post a "wow we wtfpwnd them" post every contract you have, then people would stop paying you.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ostaps on 21/11/2004 20:43:21
Originally by: Lallante Seems to me that numbers of ships are irrelevant in these things. ISK value of losses - ISK value of reclaimed insurance is the important one.
You're bloody wrong, fulfilling the contract is what matters.
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.21 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ostaps on 21/11/2004 20:43:21
Originally by: Lallante Seems to me that numbers of ships are irrelevant in these things. ISK value of losses - ISK value of reclaimed insurance is the important one.
You're bloody wrong, fulfilling the contract is what matters.
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:40:00 -
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Flames and positions aside
There was something about the video itself and i'm hoping others caught it as well. When you turned on the video it immediatly caught your eye and attention by the very well done synchronization of the video with the music.
I can say that I do not believe it has been done this well before. Excellent excellent work.
Whether you are BDCI, CA, VOTF, CCP, whoever whatever, the fact of the matter is that someone took the time to create a video, sat down in front of a computer for hours and hours, to create a video, something that he himself cannot view the same as others, and do this not for him, but for other people.
Give the flames a rest, it is an excellent video and what happens in game shouldn't really matter to the point which it has here.
The community enjoys them as a whole and that should be all that matters.
I have huge respect for the corporations in this video. BDCI, FRICK, VOTF. Powerhouses in a class of their own. No video could ever change my opinion nor my view of them.
but... gods I love to watch them Excellent work my friend, the bar has been raised.
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:40:00 -
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Flames and positions aside
There was something about the video itself and i'm hoping others caught it as well. When you turned on the video it immediatly caught your eye and attention by the very well done synchronization of the video with the music.
I can say that I do not believe it has been done this well before. Excellent excellent work.
Whether you are BDCI, CA, VOTF, CCP, whoever whatever, the fact of the matter is that someone took the time to create a video, sat down in front of a computer for hours and hours, to create a video, something that he himself cannot view the same as others, and do this not for him, but for other people.
Give the flames a rest, it is an excellent video and what happens in game shouldn't really matter to the point which it has here.
The community enjoys them as a whole and that should be all that matters.
I have huge respect for the corporations in this video. BDCI, FRICK, VOTF. Powerhouses in a class of their own. No video could ever change my opinion nor my view of them.
but... gods I love to watch them Excellent work my friend, the bar has been raised.
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Pitwebb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
So I said to myself, "Sounds like this guy is whining because he had his hindquarters handed to him. But what if there's a shred of truth to his statements about the video? Hmmm ..."
So I watched the video he linked a few posts down (page 9). The RONA video is quite good. It did an excellent job of telling the story of what occurred during the Great Northern War. Good use of music, good use of video, excellent transitions between stages. The visuals were jsut amazing! It told the story of the Northen War well.
The difference between the two videos is this. BDI's video brings you into the fight itself. The voice telling me to acquire a new secondary makes me want to reach for my mouse & start targetting. The RONA video was a documentary about the Great Northern War. I felt that I was watching a news reel about what happened.
What the BDI video lacks in quality, it makes up for in energy.
Both are excellent videos for different reasons. Combine the two styles & I might have to get some popcorn.
Safe travels, -Pit
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Pitwebb
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Posted - 2004.11.21 22:58:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
So I said to myself, "Sounds like this guy is whining because he had his hindquarters handed to him. But what if there's a shred of truth to his statements about the video? Hmmm ..."
So I watched the video he linked a few posts down (page 9). The RONA video is quite good. It did an excellent job of telling the story of what occurred during the Great Northern War. Good use of music, good use of video, excellent transitions between stages. The visuals were jsut amazing! It told the story of the Northen War well.
The difference between the two videos is this. BDI's video brings you into the fight itself. The voice telling me to acquire a new secondary makes me want to reach for my mouse & start targetting. The RONA video was a documentary about the Great Northern War. I felt that I was watching a news reel about what happened.
What the BDI video lacks in quality, it makes up for in energy.
Both are excellent videos for different reasons. Combine the two styles & I might have to get some popcorn.
Safe travels, -Pit
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:54:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Dentali
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! GOOD ONE!
Lets keep quoting each other and streching out this thread til its locked or removed! WOOOT!
Hijacking threads and flaming and trolling them only leads to warnings and/or bans. Purposely trying to get a thread locked doesn't work either, they will be cleaned up.
Thread re-opened after a 3 page un-hijacking and clean up.  Please keep it on topic and friendly.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:54:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Dentali
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! GOOD ONE!
Lets keep quoting each other and streching out this thread til its locked or removed! WOOOT!
Hijacking threads and flaming and trolling them only leads to warnings and/or bans. Purposely trying to get a thread locked doesn't work either, they will be cleaned up.
Thread re-opened after a 3 page un-hijacking and clean up.  Please keep it on topic and friendly.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Eleese
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:17:00 -
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anyway i can get my deleted post back please as 95% of it was constructive and very positive praise and my thoughts of seleene's films. so i can edit so i can repost it please :) i dont questions its removal just wish to edit and repost.... whats the proceedure for formally asking this?
Deleted posts can't be retrieved, please keep on topic -Zhuge
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Eleese
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:17:00 -
[334]
anyway i can get my deleted post back please as 95% of it was constructive and very positive praise and my thoughts of seleene's films. so i can edit so i can repost it please :) i dont questions its removal just wish to edit and repost.... whats the proceedure for formally asking this?
Deleted posts can't be retrieved, please keep on topic -Zhuge
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Foxgank Kena
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:34:00 -
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Attention Vengeance of the Fallen Members:
At this time I am requesting that you refrain from posting in this thread (unless its positive about the movie). Contact Dentali or see our forums for more information.
Thank you.
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Foxgank Kena
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:34:00 -
[336]
Attention Vengeance of the Fallen Members:
At this time I am requesting that you refrain from posting in this thread (unless its positive about the movie). Contact Dentali or see our forums for more information.
Thank you.
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Lomithrandra
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:39:00 -
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Very nice video and an interesting story. I also heard our boss Wrangler especially enjoyed the mining part. 
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Lomithrandra
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:39:00 -
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Very nice video and an interesting story. I also heard our boss Wrangler especially enjoyed the mining part. 
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:55:00 -
[339]
Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.22 00:55:00 -
[340]
Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:41:00 -
[341]
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:41:00 -
[342]
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids.
Of course it can't be left alone,it involves them losing,they only admit to losing fights to SA and thats rare,everyone else in there book is a nOOb and thus CA can't lose a single ship to a newb.
But here is the reality,they got beat a handful of times by 2 corps that when you add the numbers together don't have as many players as VOTF, VOTF laughs at everyone who cries about losing fights due to being out numbered and now they are doing just that,I call this poetic justice. Selenne if you have any Propehcy corpses I will buy them.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 01:56:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Omniwar Its a shame how the kids from Curse cant even behave and let a thread which was made to puplish a video alone but have to come here and thump their chest and spoiling a perfecting good thread about a very good video.
There is a time and place for forum wars kids, this aint the place.
ps, called kids when you act like kids.
Of course it can't be left alone,it involves them losing,they only admit to losing fights to SA and thats rare,everyone else in there book is a nOOb and thus CA can't lose a single ship to a newb.
But here is the reality,they got beat a handful of times by 2 corps that when you add the numbers together don't have as many players as VOTF, VOTF laughs at everyone who cries about losing fights due to being out numbered and now they are doing just that,I call this poetic justice. Selenne if you have any Propehcy corpses I will buy them.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Alt duJour
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:18:00 -
[345]
Edited by: Alt duJour on 22/11/2004 03:57:31
Originally by: LLeBRing There was something about the video itself and i'm hoping others caught it as well. When you turned on the video it immediatly caught your eye and attention by the very well done synchronization of the video with the music.
I can say that I do not believe it has been done this well before. Excellent excellent work.
My memory might be failing me, but am under impression drunkenmaster's video (the one with "battle without honour" as bgm) had some great synchronization moments. 
(can't comment on this one yet, waiting for download to finish)
edit: just got to watch it... some excellent piece of work here, for sure. And i hope that *FYI thing at the end turns out to be untrue. 
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Alt duJour
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:18:00 -
[346]
Edited by: Alt duJour on 22/11/2004 03:57:31
Originally by: LLeBRing There was something about the video itself and i'm hoping others caught it as well. When you turned on the video it immediatly caught your eye and attention by the very well done synchronization of the video with the music.
I can say that I do not believe it has been done this well before. Excellent excellent work.
My memory might be failing me, but am under impression drunkenmaster's video (the one with "battle without honour" as bgm) had some great synchronization moments. 
(can't comment on this one yet, waiting for download to finish)
edit: just got to watch it... some excellent piece of work here, for sure. And i hope that *FYI thing at the end turns out to be untrue. 
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:29:00 -
[347]
awesome video as always 
tho it was a bit too slowpaced imo, a bit too much story. But nonetheless -> <-
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.11.22 02:29:00 -
[348]
awesome video as always 
tho it was a bit too slowpaced imo, a bit too much story. But nonetheless -> <-
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SiN x
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Posted - 2004.11.22 04:27:00 -
[349]
WOW!!! Excellent video seleene. Keep up the good work :)
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SiN x
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Posted - 2004.11.22 04:27:00 -
[350]
WOW!!! Excellent video seleene. Keep up the good work :)
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Ostren
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Posted - 2004.11.22 04:33:00 -
[351]
WOW 
Great work Ostren
_____________________________ Read the Rules! |

Ostren
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Posted - 2004.11.22 04:33:00 -
[352]
WOW 
Great work Ostren
_____________________________ Read the Rules! |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.11.22 07:25:00 -
[353]
Awesome, really awesome. Now if you don't mind, got some cleaning up to do.  ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.11.22 07:25:00 -
[354]
Awesome, really awesome. Now if you don't mind, got some cleaning up to do.  ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 07:54:00 -
[355]
My sincere thanks to the moderation team for their quick and decisive action on helping to keep this thread open.
Now, a lot has been said, so I just want to take a few moments to clarify my feelings on a few matters.
1.) While I often find myself in disagreement with him, EternalDark has my utmost respect. Why? Because near as I can remember, he was in almost every fight I was in. He fought like a demon and he knows that all of this nonsense about ISK, insurance payouts and whatnot is just that: nonsense. In my convos with him, he has always been straight-forward, cordial and adult. What more can you ask for?
2.) With regard to the war, I can only say that from our perspective we felt like the momentum in most encounters was ours and we truly enjoyed facing off against a foe who had the balls to step up and go toe to toe with us. When I say a 2.5 to 1 kill ratio, I said that because when you look at this page here and then the daily kill logs, it's a fairly simple and accurate assessment to make. ItÆs been asked how I came up with that number and now you know so donÆt flame it anymore here. Convo me in game or email me and we can chat on MSN.
I will, once again, make the offer to VOTF: any kill mails that you have and believe are missing from our kill boards, send them to me in game and I will post them. KILL MAILS. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. I made this offer in my original post yet have not received anything.
If you can't produce the proof, then further posting is not needed.
3.) I have nothing but respect for VOTF as a whole. While my opinion on a few of their members has shifted, the reality is that they are a corp of over 100 people who represent the heart of one of the most powerful entities in the game. BDCI and FRICK do not take our wars personally. If you just look at this thread you will see that some of our most ardent supporters are people who we have shot at in the past! 
4.) Our effectiveness. We have never failed to impress a client. We have always made a profit. According to the people who have hired us, we have a 100% mission success rate. We donÆt set that standard; the people paying us do. We are small, mobile and know our battleground (Empire) like few other corps. Our clients know this. Our fees are not considered unreasonable for the results they continue to provide.
5.) It should be common knowledge by now if BDCI is shooting at you that you are on camera. DonÆt like my version of events in the vid? Get FRAPS and make your own. IÆll watch it and happily add it to my collection. 
6.) IÆve noticed a trend lately that I would like to stop.
Comparing Leafo and I to each other in an attempt to turn the community against one of us or the other is just poor taste. Why? Because I can assure you that Leafo and I do not consider each other competitors. He and I have spent hours talking to one another about our efforts and neither one of us considers each other any better. We tend to make different style vids and my love for his work and his for mine is equal.
Why are Leafo and LLeBRing in my credits? Because they are my friends and none of us see video making as a ôwho is betterö contest. We share info and techniques. About the only honest competition between us is who æclaimsÆ the next cool piece of music first for their vid!
I donÆt make these videos only because I want to say, ôOMG!! BDCI / FRICK are the Rox0000rz!!!!ö I love my corp and my people, but if I just wanted to talk smack about my corp there are other ways to do it than spending hours upon hours working on a project like this. I like being part of the community and adding to the wealth of content in the EVE universe. ItÆs more about entertaining people than anything else and I get more satisfaction out of that than any fifty battleship kills.
Also, donÆt leave Myal Terego, drunkenmaster and a few others out of the discussion. I have respect for anyone who takes the time to learn this trade and am always happy to assist or give advice to an aspiring vid maker if I have the time.
EVE is truly unique in the sense that I donÆt think I could make a video about my quest for the +12 Hackmaster Saber of Ownage. I canÆt think of another game offhand that lends itself so readily to theatre. CCP should be commended for creating a world that so easily inspires the players.
I just want to close by saying, once again, THANK YOU to everyone who has taken the time to give feedback on this vid. Nothing is more inspiring than knowing that all of your hard work and stress is appreciated and I am truly humbled by some of the people who have posted and their responses to this thread.   -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 07:54:00 -
[356]
My sincere thanks to the moderation team for their quick and decisive action on helping to keep this thread open.
Now, a lot has been said, so I just want to take a few moments to clarify my feelings on a few matters.
1.) While I often find myself in disagreement with him, EternalDark has my utmost respect. Why? Because near as I can remember, he was in almost every fight I was in. He fought like a demon and he knows that all of this nonsense about ISK, insurance payouts and whatnot is just that: nonsense. In my convos with him, he has always been straight-forward, cordial and adult. What more can you ask for?
2.) With regard to the war, I can only say that from our perspective we felt like the momentum in most encounters was ours and we truly enjoyed facing off against a foe who had the balls to step up and go toe to toe with us. When I say a 2.5 to 1 kill ratio, I said that because when you look at this page here and then the daily kill logs, it's a fairly simple and accurate assessment to make. ItÆs been asked how I came up with that number and now you know so donÆt flame it anymore here. Convo me in game or email me and we can chat on MSN.
I will, once again, make the offer to VOTF: any kill mails that you have and believe are missing from our kill boards, send them to me in game and I will post them. KILL MAILS. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. I made this offer in my original post yet have not received anything.
If you can't produce the proof, then further posting is not needed.
3.) I have nothing but respect for VOTF as a whole. While my opinion on a few of their members has shifted, the reality is that they are a corp of over 100 people who represent the heart of one of the most powerful entities in the game. BDCI and FRICK do not take our wars personally. If you just look at this thread you will see that some of our most ardent supporters are people who we have shot at in the past! 
4.) Our effectiveness. We have never failed to impress a client. We have always made a profit. According to the people who have hired us, we have a 100% mission success rate. We donÆt set that standard; the people paying us do. We are small, mobile and know our battleground (Empire) like few other corps. Our clients know this. Our fees are not considered unreasonable for the results they continue to provide.
5.) It should be common knowledge by now if BDCI is shooting at you that you are on camera. DonÆt like my version of events in the vid? Get FRAPS and make your own. IÆll watch it and happily add it to my collection. 
6.) IÆve noticed a trend lately that I would like to stop.
Comparing Leafo and I to each other in an attempt to turn the community against one of us or the other is just poor taste. Why? Because I can assure you that Leafo and I do not consider each other competitors. He and I have spent hours talking to one another about our efforts and neither one of us considers each other any better. We tend to make different style vids and my love for his work and his for mine is equal.
Why are Leafo and LLeBRing in my credits? Because they are my friends and none of us see video making as a ôwho is betterö contest. We share info and techniques. About the only honest competition between us is who æclaimsÆ the next cool piece of music first for their vid!
I donÆt make these videos only because I want to say, ôOMG!! BDCI / FRICK are the Rox0000rz!!!!ö I love my corp and my people, but if I just wanted to talk smack about my corp there are other ways to do it than spending hours upon hours working on a project like this. I like being part of the community and adding to the wealth of content in the EVE universe. ItÆs more about entertaining people than anything else and I get more satisfaction out of that than any fifty battleship kills.
Also, donÆt leave Myal Terego, drunkenmaster and a few others out of the discussion. I have respect for anyone who takes the time to learn this trade and am always happy to assist or give advice to an aspiring vid maker if I have the time.
EVE is truly unique in the sense that I donÆt think I could make a video about my quest for the +12 Hackmaster Saber of Ownage. I canÆt think of another game offhand that lends itself so readily to theatre. CCP should be commended for creating a world that so easily inspires the players.
I just want to close by saying, once again, THANK YOU to everyone who has taken the time to give feedback on this vid. Nothing is more inspiring than knowing that all of your hard work and stress is appreciated and I am truly humbled by some of the people who have posted and their responses to this thread.   -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:04:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
You're heavily biased, your opinion is doesn't matter. You got quoted saying a very childish thing, then your deaths were displayed for all to see. You would say Zelota's videos are better if you didn't have NSN to compare it to.
Though in my personal opinion (which actually matters, lolololol), both NSN and BCDI make the best movies out there.. and I don't consider either an ally.  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:04:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
You're heavily biased, your opinion is doesn't matter. You got quoted saying a very childish thing, then your deaths were displayed for all to see. You would say Zelota's videos are better if you didn't have NSN to compare it to.
Though in my personal opinion (which actually matters, lolololol), both NSN and BCDI make the best movies out there.. and I don't consider either an ally.  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:05:00 -
[359]
good post Sel, when you were contracted to kill my corp you created one of the greatest experiences I have had in this game,you guys were great to fight and I wish you and yours the best ( I just hope I am never in another video of yours ).
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:05:00 -
[360]
good post Sel, when you were contracted to kill my corp you created one of the greatest experiences I have had in this game,you guys were great to fight and I wish you and yours the best ( I just hope I am never in another video of yours ).
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:17:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard good post Sel, when you were contracted to kill my corp you created one of the greatest experiences I have had in this game,you guys were great to fight and I wish you and yours the best ( I just hope I am never in another video of yours ).
/emote hugs Lucian Alucard ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:17:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard good post Sel, when you were contracted to kill my corp you created one of the greatest experiences I have had in this game,you guys were great to fight and I wish you and yours the best ( I just hope I am never in another video of yours ).
/emote hugs Lucian Alucard ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:24:00 -
[363]
  /me blushes> And Burn is hot
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 08:24:00 -
[364]
  /me blushes> And Burn is hot
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Beatrus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:39:00 -
[365]
Absolutely amazing vid especially since The Rock is one of my favorite movies and the soundtrack was used quite often. I did not participate much due to RL issues. But this video is by far one of the best i have seen. Trying to compare them all together is just not possible. To make true use out of every video get a DVD burner go hunt them all down(as in all the videos for EVE) and burn and EVE DVD. I dont have the patience to do it but im sure it would turn out to be a good EVE history tool.(HISTORY IN THE EYES OF THE PLAYERS)  ------------------------------------ "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold." -Old Klingon Proverb
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Beatrus
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Posted - 2004.11.22 09:39:00 -
[366]
Absolutely amazing vid especially since The Rock is one of my favorite movies and the soundtrack was used quite often. I did not participate much due to RL issues. But this video is by far one of the best i have seen. Trying to compare them all together is just not possible. To make true use out of every video get a DVD burner go hunt them all down(as in all the videos for EVE) and burn and EVE DVD. I dont have the patience to do it but im sure it would turn out to be a good EVE history tool.(HISTORY IN THE EYES OF THE PLAYERS)  ------------------------------------ "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold." -Old Klingon Proverb
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:15:00 -
[367]
I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:15:00 -
[368]
I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:17:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Ostaps I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:17:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Ostaps I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:35:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Ostaps I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard. 
/me turns off MSN... 
Actually I have done the same, have all my raw-footage and projects archived for future use.
Maybe do something fun with it some day. 
click on sig for all my videos
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Leafo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:35:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Ostaps I would burn them to a DVD, but the encoded wmv doesn't have that good quality and bitrate for it to be viewed on a DVD.
Author has to export the project not only as a compressed video file, but also export it straight to mpeg-2/ogg ready for the DVD authoring software. Premiere does this. But it's impossible to get the old videos now, since nobody has the raw footage and the Premiere project files for them anymore :)
Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard. 
/me turns off MSN... 
Actually I have done the same, have all my raw-footage and projects archived for future use.
Maybe do something fun with it some day. 
click on sig for all my videos
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EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:39:00 -
[373]
Best vid I've ever seen, period. _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

EB Xile
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:39:00 -
[374]
Best vid I've ever seen, period. _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up! |

Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:50:00 -
[375]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 11:48:02 If you use the second mirror you end up with something called "votf_final" but only 43MB in size.
Trying the first one again, which seems to have more bandwidth anyway (230kB/s).
EDIT: that works, very, very nice vid. Gotta love that Jerry Brucheimer music too.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:50:00 -
[376]
Edited by: Jazz Bo on 22/11/2004 11:48:02 If you use the second mirror you end up with something called "votf_final" but only 43MB in size.
Trying the first one again, which seems to have more bandwidth anyway (230kB/s).
EDIT: that works, very, very nice vid. Gotta love that Jerry Brucheimer music too.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:58:00 -
[377]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Dentali, as somewhat of a spokes person of NSN and a close friend to Leafo I recent the way you have behaved in this thread, it sickens me to be honest! If it wasnt for your disturbed behaviour your comment could have gone down as a possitive thing. Now I wish you to never speak of us again. Thank you.
Leafo may or may not have set an standard for movie-making in generall but BDCI certainly has done so in terms of story telling and interaction of the involved parties. Everytime a new movie comes out it has been bigger, better and more advanced! Ask Leafo, he's trembling with fear! 
Now...what was it that I was supposed to do next...hmm..oh yes...email
Regards, LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |

Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.22 10:58:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Dentali You guys are nuts about this video. It was no where near close to the quality of the NSN films spread across this forum. They have truely set the standard, NOT Body Count. The moment I see a Body Count video that compares to theirs, I will give them some props. But honestly, not even about this instance, the NSN films from the PA still rock the box about this game.
Dentali, as somewhat of a spokes person of NSN and a close friend to Leafo I recent the way you have behaved in this thread, it sickens me to be honest! If it wasnt for your disturbed behaviour your comment could have gone down as a possitive thing. Now I wish you to never speak of us again. Thank you.
Leafo may or may not have set an standard for movie-making in generall but BDCI certainly has done so in terms of story telling and interaction of the involved parties. Everytime a new movie comes out it has been bigger, better and more advanced! Ask Leafo, he's trembling with fear! 
Now...what was it that I was supposed to do next...hmm..oh yes...email
Regards, LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |

Zarlock
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:36:00 -
[379]
Edited by: Zarlock on 22/11/2004 11:38:51 Very nice vid!!! Best ever seen so far: good action and very nice music,
Bravo!
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Zarlock
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:36:00 -
[380]
Edited by: Zarlock on 22/11/2004 11:38:51 Very nice vid!!! Best ever seen so far: good action and very nice music,
Bravo!
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:39:00 -
[381]
Seleene,
Just watched the vid, very well put together, probably best ive seen so far :D
Good to see old SPVD still kickin ass.
Mast
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:39:00 -
[382]
Seleene,
Just watched the vid, very well put together, probably best ive seen so far :D
Good to see old SPVD still kickin ass.
Mast
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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dabster
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:57:00 -
[383]
Hot damn that's an awsome vid, excellent Seleene  ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

dabster
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Posted - 2004.11.22 11:57:00 -
[384]
Hot damn that's an awsome vid, excellent Seleene  ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:45:00 -
[385]
Edited by: Ostaps on 22/11/2004 12:50:39
Originally by: Seleene Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard. 
Omigod, that is going to take A LOT of time. DVD authoring takes time, not to mention the rendering time.
What you must do, is put all the vids for each contract into a big Premiere project, one timeline, one clip - you'd get like an hour of footage or so - then render and export it for DVD software - which is going to take many hours :)
Add a nice menu in the DVD software and burn :) And tah dah - you got Sel's EVE contract archive special edition :) which you then mail to CCP as a gift 
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:45:00 -
[386]
Edited by: Ostaps on 22/11/2004 12:50:39
Originally by: Seleene Actually, I do have all of my old FRAPs. I have everything I've ever used to make a vid. I may go back one day and remake a couple of the old ones in Premiere and do a SPECIAL EDITION re-release or something. Shouldn't be all that hard. 
Omigod, that is going to take A LOT of time. DVD authoring takes time, not to mention the rendering time.
What you must do, is put all the vids for each contract into a big Premiere project, one timeline, one clip - you'd get like an hour of footage or so - then render and export it for DVD software - which is going to take many hours :)
Add a nice menu in the DVD software and burn :) And tah dah - you got Sel's EVE contract archive special edition :) which you then mail to CCP as a gift 
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:14:00 -
[387]
As usual, another top vid from Body Count.
GJ
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:14:00 -
[388]
As usual, another top vid from Body Count.
GJ
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:25:00 -
[389]
im not in that video, but its still nice Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:25:00 -
[390]
im not in that video, but its still nice Wanna fly with me?
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Bob ThePlumber
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:29:00 -
[391]
To VOTF - we all know what happened, i was at grinnacane and personally saw atleast 2 enemy frigates explode infront of my face, not to mention the BSs and cruisers the others were working on, the facts in the video might not be correts, ohwell, doesnt matter, so long as what happens in the game is in our favor.
To Seleene - great video, even better than the Merchant Marines war footage. keep up the good work =)
-Bob ThePlumber [VOTF] If at first you don't succeed, Destroy all evidence that you even tried.
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Bob ThePlumber
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:29:00 -
[392]
To VOTF - we all know what happened, i was at grinnacane and personally saw atleast 2 enemy frigates explode infront of my face, not to mention the BSs and cruisers the others were working on, the facts in the video might not be correts, ohwell, doesnt matter, so long as what happens in the game is in our favor.
To Seleene - great video, even better than the Merchant Marines war footage. keep up the good work =)
-Bob ThePlumber [VOTF] If at first you don't succeed, Destroy all evidence that you even tried.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:43:00 -
[393]
Edited by: Krapz on 22/11/2004 16:24:37 Just a super vid Sel. I always tout this game to my friends, and show them yours and Leafo's vids. Both of you are just great for this game as a whole. I really appreciate all the time both of you put into these vids.
I really like the tactical overlay you put on this one. You guys are so absolutely precise, crisp, and tactical when the situation calls for it. It was an absolute pleasure to tackle for you guys when I got done with my chores and had some play time.
This video just further proves what everyone else probably already knows. You both (BDCI and FRICK) are just cruel. Breakin people's hearts like Elvis himself!
For future reference folks, don't go steppin on Seleene's or Charity's blue suede shoes.
-- Insert cool graphics sig here -- |

Krapz
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:43:00 -
[394]
Edited by: Krapz on 22/11/2004 16:24:37 Just a super vid Sel. I always tout this game to my friends, and show them yours and Leafo's vids. Both of you are just great for this game as a whole. I really appreciate all the time both of you put into these vids.
I really like the tactical overlay you put on this one. You guys are so absolutely precise, crisp, and tactical when the situation calls for it. It was an absolute pleasure to tackle for you guys when I got done with my chores and had some play time.
This video just further proves what everyone else probably already knows. You both (BDCI and FRICK) are just cruel. Breakin people's hearts like Elvis himself!
For future reference folks, don't go steppin on Seleene's or Charity's blue suede shoes.
-- Insert cool graphics sig here -- |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:15:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber To VOTF - we all know what happened, i was at grinnacane and personally saw atleast 2 enemy frigates explode infront of my face, not to mention the BSs and cruisers the others were working on, the facts in the video might not be correts, ohwell, doesnt matter, so long as what happens in the game is in our favor.
To Seleene - great video, even better than the Merchant Marines war footage. keep up the good work =)
-Bob ThePlumber [VOTF]
Bob, thank you for the comments and I appreciate your attitude. As to the facts, please look at this link:
Sunday 17 October 2004
That is our record of the Battle of Grinacanne. Feel free to eve-mail me anything you feel is missing and I will be happy to post it.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:15:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber To VOTF - we all know what happened, i was at grinnacane and personally saw atleast 2 enemy frigates explode infront of my face, not to mention the BSs and cruisers the others were working on, the facts in the video might not be correts, ohwell, doesnt matter, so long as what happens in the game is in our favor.
To Seleene - great video, even better than the Merchant Marines war footage. keep up the good work =)
-Bob ThePlumber [VOTF]
Bob, thank you for the comments and I appreciate your attitude. As to the facts, please look at this link:
Sunday 17 October 2004
That is our record of the Battle of Grinacanne. Feel free to eve-mail me anything you feel is missing and I will be happy to post it.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:44:00 -
[397]
Edited by: Seleene on 22/11/2004 16:46:59 Leafo has mirrored the vid as well. Go chew up his bandwidth now! 
BDCI Video û The VOTF War -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:44:00 -
[398]
Edited by: Seleene on 22/11/2004 16:46:59 Leafo has mirrored the vid as well. Go chew up his bandwidth now! 
BDCI Video û The VOTF War -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Aman Sul
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:46:00 -
[399]
BAD A$$
"There are no dumb questions, but there are ALOT of inquisitive idiots." |

Aman Sul
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Posted - 2004.11.22 16:46:00 -
[400]
BAD A$$
"There are no dumb questions, but there are ALOT of inquisitive idiots." |

ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:05:00 -
[401]
Bravo !! and more we want :) ----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |

ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:05:00 -
[402]
Bravo !! and more we want :) ----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |

Riddari
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:26:00 -
[403]
Two thumbs up from the critic from hell 
¼©¼ a history |

Riddari
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:26:00 -
[404]
Two thumbs up from the critic from hell 
¼©¼ a history |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:29:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Riddari Two thumbs up from the critic from hell 
LOL! At last! I made Riddari happy!
/emote goes to get a drink.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 17:29:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Riddari Two thumbs up from the critic from hell 
LOL! At last! I made Riddari happy!
/emote goes to get a drink.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:11:00 -
[407]
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 22/11/2004 18:14:22 read the first post, down loaded the movie and skipped 11 pages as I know just to well what 11 pages means on this forum 
Nice video though allmost made me want to play eve again  ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:11:00 -
[408]
Edited by: Dolemite2K on 22/11/2004 18:14:22 read the first post, down loaded the movie and skipped 11 pages as I know just to well what 11 pages means on this forum 
Nice video though allmost made me want to play eve again  ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:26:00 -
[409]
It's a great video Seleene. Thanks for spending the time an energy making it for us. If I were to provide some constructive feedback, it would be that 2 or 3 of the music transitions were a little hurried, and that it'd make a nice contrast to show some loss (with nice clichÚd 'sad' music) intermixed to really get the spirit moving. I like the old-school typed lettering, and the panning work (which is hard with the mouse). As a completely tangential note, that you have no control over, It's too bad we can't have more individuality in ship coloring it'd be nice to identify more with the ships through the video.
As for VOTF, I don't get you. The video makes it look like you fought, and had a good time, even if you lost a few ships due to various factors.
Your forum posting makes it look like you're a bunch of whiney children.
People are going to put their best up on videos and stuff. You don't need to "protect" the rest of us viewers by "their propaganda machine" We're able to put 2 and 2 together. If there's anywhere you lost in that war, it would be right here.
-- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |

Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:26:00 -
[410]
It's a great video Seleene. Thanks for spending the time an energy making it for us. If I were to provide some constructive feedback, it would be that 2 or 3 of the music transitions were a little hurried, and that it'd make a nice contrast to show some loss (with nice clichÚd 'sad' music) intermixed to really get the spirit moving. I like the old-school typed lettering, and the panning work (which is hard with the mouse). As a completely tangential note, that you have no control over, It's too bad we can't have more individuality in ship coloring it'd be nice to identify more with the ships through the video.
As for VOTF, I don't get you. The video makes it look like you fought, and had a good time, even if you lost a few ships due to various factors.
Your forum posting makes it look like you're a bunch of whiney children.
People are going to put their best up on videos and stuff. You don't need to "protect" the rest of us viewers by "their propaganda machine" We're able to put 2 and 2 together. If there's anywhere you lost in that war, it would be right here.
-- TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:41:00 -
[411]
ya i just went back and downloaded all the BDCI vids.In conclusion BDCI makes its cool to die repeatedly.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.11.22 18:41:00 -
[412]
ya i just went back and downloaded all the BDCI vids.In conclusion BDCI makes its cool to die repeatedly.
Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass. |

Xlander
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:00:00 -
[413]
Damn that was just awesome.
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Xlander
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:00:00 -
[414]
Damn that was just awesome.
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:42:00 -
[415]
There is one tiny thing that I like a lot in Leafo's films :) It's the font! I adore it! Minimalistic, classy, stylish documentary font. Sel on the other hand uses an uglier font, but the titles he puts in there make your blood go faster :) really!
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Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:42:00 -
[416]
There is one tiny thing that I like a lot in Leafo's films :) It's the font! I adore it! Minimalistic, classy, stylish documentary font. Sel on the other hand uses an uglier font, but the titles he puts in there make your blood go faster :) really!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:53:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Wraeththu If I were to provide some constructive feedback, it would be that 2 or 3 of the music transitions were a little hurried.
Yes, I know what parts you are speaking of. I agonized over those sequences, but in order to synch porperly with the music they had to remain. I did manage to re-write several of the titles so there wouldn't be so much to read though. Just one of those things where I had to finally shrug my shoulders and walk away. 
Originally by: Ostaps There is one tiny thing that I like a lot in Leafo's films :) It's the font! I adore it! Minimalistic, classy, stylish documentary font. Sel on the other hand uses an uglier font, but the titles he puts in there make your blood go faster :) really!
You know what, Ost? To heck what Leafo's font! I spent about half an hour trying to get that thing running (because, yes I asked him about it) before I finally gave up and said, "Hey, it's almost one in the morning and the vid is finished." I wanted to use it, but my brain simply wasn't able to make it work that night.
So then I got to have fun trying to encode this monster and watching it gag on the second encoding pass at three minutes every time. Considering one pass took about 55-60 minutes... Arrrgh!! 
Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm...  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.22 19:53:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Wraeththu If I were to provide some constructive feedback, it would be that 2 or 3 of the music transitions were a little hurried.
Yes, I know what parts you are speaking of. I agonized over those sequences, but in order to synch porperly with the music they had to remain. I did manage to re-write several of the titles so there wouldn't be so much to read though. Just one of those things where I had to finally shrug my shoulders and walk away. 
Originally by: Ostaps There is one tiny thing that I like a lot in Leafo's films :) It's the font! I adore it! Minimalistic, classy, stylish documentary font. Sel on the other hand uses an uglier font, but the titles he puts in there make your blood go faster :) really!
You know what, Ost? To heck what Leafo's font! I spent about half an hour trying to get that thing running (because, yes I asked him about it) before I finally gave up and said, "Hey, it's almost one in the morning and the vid is finished." I wanted to use it, but my brain simply wasn't able to make it work that night.
So then I got to have fun trying to encode this monster and watching it gag on the second encoding pass at three minutes every time. Considering one pass took about 55-60 minutes... Arrrgh!! 
Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm...  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Notferr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:00:00 -
[419]
Seleene,
I thought we agreed that I was gonna get some kind of producer credit. How am I going to get invited to the Academy after parties now?
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:00:00 -
[420]
Seleene,
I thought we agreed that I was gonna get some kind of producer credit. How am I going to get invited to the Academy after parties now?
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Bob ThePlumber
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:09:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P If at first you don't succeed, Destroy all evidence that you even tried.
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Bob ThePlumber
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:09:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P If at first you don't succeed, Destroy all evidence that you even tried.
|

Ostaps
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Posted - 2004.11.22 21:35:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
|

Ostaps
|
Posted - 2004.11.22 21:35:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
|

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.22 22:51:00 -
[425]
Cant forget comments from THE BURNINATOR while under the influence of (insert your choice of drug here). ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

The Burninator
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Posted - 2004.11.22 22:51:00 -
[426]
Cant forget comments from THE BURNINATOR while under the influence of (insert your choice of drug here). ----------------
BDCI Website - We solve problems. |

Ray Butts
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Posted - 2004.11.22 23:17:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Ostaps
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
you must be aneu new best friend 
|

Ray Butts
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Posted - 2004.11.22 23:17:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Ostaps
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
you must be aneu new best friend 
|

Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.23 00:46:00 -
[429]
Originally by: Ray Butts
Originally by: Ostaps
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
you must be aneu new best friend 
I have friends? ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.23 00:46:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Ray Butts
Originally by: Ostaps
Originally by: Bob ThePlumber
Originally by: Seleene Maybe that's something for the "Special Edition" release? Hmmm... 
lol, BDCI vs. VOTF Special Edition. With 5 minutes bonus footage! including
Director's Commentary
Xirtam's Commentary
Eternal Dark and Zelota's Commentary
Sing-Along
only 19.95 isk
=P
LOL! Don't forget Special Behind-the-scenes with Aneu!
you must be aneu new best friend 
I have friends? ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.11.23 01:30:00 -
[431]
no ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.11.23 01:30:00 -
[432]
no ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.23 05:28:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :)
What about french ? 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.23 05:28:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :)
What about french ? 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Avernus
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Posted - 2004.11.23 07:38:00 -
[435]
Damn nice video Seleene.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.11.23 07:38:00 -
[436]
Damn nice video Seleene.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2004.11.23 09:06:00 -
[437]
incredible, just incredible............bravo
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Voltron
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Posted - 2004.11.23 09:06:00 -
[438]
incredible, just incredible............bravo
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.23 09:46:00 -
[439]
Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :)
What about french ? 
Je ne parles-pas francais, monsieur. Je suis tres desole. ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.23 09:46:00 -
[440]
Originally by: olyyyyy
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video !  Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
The day I will be rejoining XF will be when I speak Swedish fluently :)
What about french ? 
Je ne parles-pas francais, monsieur. Je suis tres desole. ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
|

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.24 07:16:00 -
[441]
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video ! 
Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
You can't. He's ours now. Latex needs someone to wash her Scorpion and the fact that he has Astrogeology 5 is a source of endless fun and amusement for the rest of us. 
Originally by: Notferr Seleene,
I thought we agreed that I was gonna get some kind of producer credit. How am I going to get invited to the Academy after parties now?
I'm sorry, Notferr, I completely forgot. Convo me in game later and let's discuss how you might be able to 'contribute' to the next production.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
|
Posted - 2004.11.24 07:16:00 -
[442]
Originally by: olyyyyy Awsome video ! 
Btw, when can XF get back Waagaa ? 
You can't. He's ours now. Latex needs someone to wash her Scorpion and the fact that he has Astrogeology 5 is a source of endless fun and amusement for the rest of us. 
Originally by: Notferr Seleene,
I thought we agreed that I was gonna get some kind of producer credit. How am I going to get invited to the Academy after parties now?
I'm sorry, Notferr, I completely forgot. Convo me in game later and let's discuss how you might be able to 'contribute' to the next production.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Qwertyifshag
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Posted - 2004.11.24 08:42:00 -
[443]
Damn, nice video 
Makes me wanna go back to the Sharks and join in on the fun you guys seem to have before and after i was in lol.
Oh well GL to future endevours and hopefully more great movies will come along as well.
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Qwertyifshag
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Posted - 2004.11.24 08:42:00 -
[444]
Damn, nice video 
Makes me wanna go back to the Sharks and join in on the fun you guys seem to have before and after i was in lol.
Oh well GL to future endevours and hopefully more great movies will come along as well.
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Crusher166
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Posted - 2004.11.24 17:52:00 -
[445]
very nice video Seleene, i especially liked all those crows in formation hehe looks very profesional. good work. looks like it was a fun war.
Crusher - Sybrite Inc. |

Crusher166
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Posted - 2004.11.24 17:52:00 -
[446]
very nice video Seleene, i especially liked all those crows in formation hehe looks very profesional. good work. looks like it was a fun war.
Crusher - Sybrite Inc. |

Kawasakii
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Posted - 2004.11.24 21:24:00 -
[447]
Great Vid Seleene You never told me you were gonna make me a super star ..is it the Oscars next you as best director ... me obviously as the best actor and maybe Aneu as best supporting actress/actor hell lets just call aneu a Thesbian :) BTW we had a great time
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Kawasakii
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Posted - 2004.11.24 21:24:00 -
[448]
Great Vid Seleene You never told me you were gonna make me a super star ..is it the Oscars next you as best director ... me obviously as the best actor and maybe Aneu as best supporting actress/actor hell lets just call aneu a Thesbian :) BTW we had a great time
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Amthor
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Posted - 2004.11.25 00:20:00 -
[449]
Great video, loved the feel of it. Please make as many as you like with this much detail. Altho I feel your info and assumptions are off base, but does make a great "story".
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, I will kill you, if I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor. |

Amthor
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Posted - 2004.11.25 00:20:00 -
[450]
Great video, loved the feel of it. Please make as many as you like with this much detail. Altho I feel your info and assumptions are off base, but does make a great "story".
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, I will kill you, if I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor. |

Deidranna
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Posted - 2004.11.25 16:01:00 -
[451]
really nice vid. wouldnt fall in love with the music but the visuals are great
d.
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2004.11.25 16:01:00 -
[452]
really nice vid. wouldnt fall in love with the music but the visuals are great
d.
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:06:00 -
[453]
By far one of the more clever films out there. I like the editing, choice of music, variety and quality in clips used.
It makes me wonder why CCP havent thought of a "record"-feature. I'd like to see a feature that allowed playback of effects and movements allowing filmmakers greater freedom in planning out cameramovements, passages, closeups and more. It would also facilitate easier collection of recorderdata from various sources and thus allow for even better movies.
Anyway, congrats on the movie, hope you change you mind about not doing lenghty ones in the future :)
PS. Yeah we really just wanna shoot stuff, but we're complicated about it  -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender |

Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:06:00 -
[454]
By far one of the more clever films out there. I like the editing, choice of music, variety and quality in clips used.
It makes me wonder why CCP havent thought of a "record"-feature. I'd like to see a feature that allowed playback of effects and movements allowing filmmakers greater freedom in planning out cameramovements, passages, closeups and more. It would also facilitate easier collection of recorderdata from various sources and thus allow for even better movies.
Anyway, congrats on the movie, hope you change you mind about not doing lenghty ones in the future :)
PS. Yeah we really just wanna shoot stuff, but we're complicated about it  -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.11.29 00:49:00 -
[455]
Downloading now. I can't believe I missed this one when it first came out, as I'm a huge Seleene fan.  _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.11.29 00:49:00 -
[456]
Downloading now. I can't believe I missed this one when it first came out, as I'm a huge Seleene fan.  _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:12:00 -
[457]
One of the best vids... EVER _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.11.29 01:12:00 -
[458]
One of the best vids... EVER _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Zelota
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Posted - 2004.11.29 02:10:00 -
[459]
nice video.The last person to laf lafs the hardest just remember that Vid of the week |

Zelota
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Posted - 2004.11.29 02:10:00 -
[460]
nice video.The last person to laf lafs the hardest just remember that Vid of the week |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.30 08:54:00 -
[461]
Originally by: Deidranna really nice vid. wouldnt fall in love with the music but the visuals are great
Thanks, Deidranna. A big thanks again to Steel Vipers again for the assist that night. You kept us waiting for a bit, but the end result was worth it. 
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr By far one of the more clever films out there. I like the editing, choice of music, variety and quality in clips used.
It makes me wonder why CCP havent thought of a "record"-feature. I'd like to see a feature that allowed playback of effects and movements allowing filmmakers greater freedom in planning out cameramovements, passages, closeups and more. It would also facilitate easier collection of recorderdata from various sources and thus allow for even better movies.
I appreciate your comments, Schani, and you are correct about the 'Camera Tools'. One thing I've noticed about the new client is that when you are using the 'Look At' command and things explode, the camera instantly pulls back to your ship instead of letting you witness the glorious demise of your target. I hope they fix this or am I one of the only people this is happening to? 
Originally by: Zelota nice video.The last person to laf lafs the hardest just remember that
Thank you, Zelota. You were a lot of fun to chase around and to fight. Good luck with your own future vid-making.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.11.30 08:54:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Deidranna really nice vid. wouldnt fall in love with the music but the visuals are great
Thanks, Deidranna. A big thanks again to Steel Vipers again for the assist that night. You kept us waiting for a bit, but the end result was worth it. 
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr By far one of the more clever films out there. I like the editing, choice of music, variety and quality in clips used.
It makes me wonder why CCP havent thought of a "record"-feature. I'd like to see a feature that allowed playback of effects and movements allowing filmmakers greater freedom in planning out cameramovements, passages, closeups and more. It would also facilitate easier collection of recorderdata from various sources and thus allow for even better movies.
I appreciate your comments, Schani, and you are correct about the 'Camera Tools'. One thing I've noticed about the new client is that when you are using the 'Look At' command and things explode, the camera instantly pulls back to your ship instead of letting you witness the glorious demise of your target. I hope they fix this or am I one of the only people this is happening to? 
Originally by: Zelota nice video.The last person to laf lafs the hardest just remember that
Thank you, Zelota. You were a lot of fun to chase around and to fight. Good luck with your own future vid-making.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.30 09:16:00 -
[463]
Edited by: Sassinak on 30/11/2004 09:25:16 Sweet Video!
/me needs to sort out security so can shoot people in empire again :/
oh and lol at all the curse newbies crying on the thread caus they got their noses bloodied a bit Sass Arcane Technologies |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.30 09:16:00 -
[464]
Edited by: Sassinak on 30/11/2004 09:25:16 Sweet Video!
/me needs to sort out security so can shoot people in empire again :/
oh and lol at all the curse newbies crying on the thread caus they got their noses bloodied a bit Sass Arcane Technologies |

Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.30 10:30:00 -
[465]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 30/11/2004 10:33:06
Originally by: Sassinak Edited by: Sassinak on 30/11/2004 09:25:16 Sweet Video!
/me needs to sort out security so can shoot people in empire again :/
oh and lol at all the curse newbies crying on the thread caus they got their noses bloodied a bit
It wasn't really that bad :) Most of them were pretty cool about it as always :)
(Was this a shameless bump? No! I'm testing my new siggie!) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.11.30 10:30:00 -
[466]
Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 30/11/2004 10:33:06
Originally by: Sassinak Edited by: Sassinak on 30/11/2004 09:25:16 Sweet Video!
/me needs to sort out security so can shoot people in empire again :/
oh and lol at all the curse newbies crying on the thread caus they got their noses bloodied a bit
It wasn't really that bad :) Most of them were pretty cool about it as always :)
(Was this a shameless bump? No! I'm testing my new siggie!) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.11.30 15:09:00 -
[467]
That Vid was great, nice one  ===============================================
has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.11.30 15:09:00 -
[468]
That Vid was great, nice one  ===============================================
has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
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Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.12.02 10:47:00 -
[469]
Supeeerrrrrrbbbb, as always
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |

Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.12.02 10:47:00 -
[470]
Supeeerrrrrrbbbb, as always
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |

Pasion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 12:16:00 -
[471]
Hi Seleene:) Even though the job from the Merchaneries is no longer the same like it used to be  You and your crew and Frick sure got THAT skil down to adv lvl 5 ! I have watch all your vid¦s and i saw progress both in quality from the vid¦s and in PvP¦s on your bounties :)! I mean traping all the gates so your victims cant escape (ev war)?<AWSOM>  I mean started a contract for a simple mercanerie job to a BIG alliance war? And stil getting the job done (vtof war)?<ROCKED>  !! Players like yourself and your lats makes eve wordwhile and yes...its a BUMMER that the merc days are over... O wel there are plenty off other ways to get to that same lvl again  Just use your imagination...and i aint talking about beeing a pirate (What is fun 2 offcourse <grin>) Hope to work with or For you someday Seleene, that whould be some serieus fun :)
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Pasion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 12:16:00 -
[472]
Hi Seleene:) Even though the job from the Merchaneries is no longer the same like it used to be  You and your crew and Frick sure got THAT skil down to adv lvl 5 ! I have watch all your vid¦s and i saw progress both in quality from the vid¦s and in PvP¦s on your bounties :)! I mean traping all the gates so your victims cant escape (ev war)?<AWSOM>  I mean started a contract for a simple mercanerie job to a BIG alliance war? And stil getting the job done (vtof war)?<ROCKED>  !! Players like yourself and your lats makes eve wordwhile and yes...its a BUMMER that the merc days are over... O wel there are plenty off other ways to get to that same lvl again  Just use your imagination...and i aint talking about beeing a pirate (What is fun 2 offcourse <grin>) Hope to work with or For you someday Seleene, that whould be some serieus fun :)
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.12.03 12:44:00 -
[473]
Edited by: Seleene on 03/12/2004 12:48:12
Hi Pasion.
Thank you for the comments. To be honest, the most innovative part of my corp is not how we do things but where (Empire) and why (ISK). Tactics are only as good as your pilots ability to execute them. In that respect, BDCI and FRICK are very lucky to have players who both know when to shut up and follow orders and also when to exercise their initiative and take a risk.
As for the mercenary profession being "over"à well, it's just undergoing some changes. People tend to forget how huge this game is. Not every corp is affiliated with an Alliance and the Alliances themselves are going to have plenty of problems regardless. I'm still getting offers in my inbox so I'm not worried. In fact, our first post-Castor contract kicks off tonight at 2001 EVE timeà. 
As a bit of an update: this vid has now been downloaded just over 2300 times from our main site and the various mirrors. Also, most of the flaming that took place when this thread started has since been resolved amicably in-game.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.12.03 12:44:00 -
[474]
Edited by: Seleene on 03/12/2004 12:48:12
Hi Pasion.
Thank you for the comments. To be honest, the most innovative part of my corp is not how we do things but where (Empire) and why (ISK). Tactics are only as good as your pilots ability to execute them. In that respect, BDCI and FRICK are very lucky to have players who both know when to shut up and follow orders and also when to exercise their initiative and take a risk.
As for the mercenary profession being "over"à well, it's just undergoing some changes. People tend to forget how huge this game is. Not every corp is affiliated with an Alliance and the Alliances themselves are going to have plenty of problems regardless. I'm still getting offers in my inbox so I'm not worried. In fact, our first post-Castor contract kicks off tonight at 2001 EVE timeà. 
As a bit of an update: this vid has now been downloaded just over 2300 times from our main site and the various mirrors. Also, most of the flaming that took place when this thread started has since been resolved amicably in-game.  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Hygelac
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Posted - 2004.12.03 13:49:00 -
[475]
Merc days arn't over. Not as long as we can make it work. There are plenty of merc corps out there and I'm sure we'll find a method of carrying on the fight, Alliances or not.
:)
It would be nice to one day see CCP recognize and aid the Merc and Bounty hunting proffessions though. Well, let's wait and see. Shiva only just got here who knows what next year will bring.
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2004.12.03 13:49:00 -
[476]
Merc days arn't over. Not as long as we can make it work. There are plenty of merc corps out there and I'm sure we'll find a method of carrying on the fight, Alliances or not.
:)
It would be nice to one day see CCP recognize and aid the Merc and Bounty hunting proffessions though. Well, let's wait and see. Shiva only just got here who knows what next year will bring.
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belzebub1
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:34:00 -
[477]
Exceptional video, Was well woth the wait to download, nearly made me want to go into PVP   .
Slan
![]() Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/ |

belzebub1
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Posted - 2004.12.03 15:34:00 -
[478]
Exceptional video, Was well woth the wait to download, nearly made me want to go into PVP   .
Slan
![]() Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/ |

Pasion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 18:16:00 -
[479]
>As for the mercenary profession being "over"à well, it's just undergoing some changes. People tend to forget how huge this game is. Not every corp is affiliated with an Alliance and the Alliances themselves are going to have plenty of problems regardless. I'm still getting offers in my inbox so I'm not worried. In fact, our >first post-Castor contract kicks off tonight at 2001 EVE timeà.
Know isnt that wonderful news ! Hehe indeed i forgot that the merc job only realy changed for the Alliances, Not for the single corperations...and there are PLENTY of single corps out there who need a hand in the dark world what is called EvE ;grin:
So yeah i think in the future we could stil make it work lats !
He good luck on your next assignment on 2001 h! Dont wurry i allready called 911 for the victims what wil scatter from... hold on *moves rifter around 10 body parts floating in space while looking in the face of a camera from Frick what is taking some last footage of the (pow..)evant(..ned) what happend in here* wow!did it start allready <waves at camera>?<grin>
O and uh.. ..did i mansioned that i am looking forward to the next vid? No? *Darn i knew that i should make the letters Merc vid¦s Collector brighter on my rifter*
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Pasion
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Posted - 2004.12.03 18:16:00 -
[480]
>As for the mercenary profession being "over"à well, it's just undergoing some changes. People tend to forget how huge this game is. Not every corp is affiliated with an Alliance and the Alliances themselves are going to have plenty of problems regardless. I'm still getting offers in my inbox so I'm not worried. In fact, our >first post-Castor contract kicks off tonight at 2001 EVE timeà.
Know isnt that wonderful news ! Hehe indeed i forgot that the merc job only realy changed for the Alliances, Not for the single corperations...and there are PLENTY of single corps out there who need a hand in the dark world what is called EvE ;grin:
So yeah i think in the future we could stil make it work lats !
He good luck on your next assignment on 2001 h! Dont wurry i allready called 911 for the victims what wil scatter from... hold on *moves rifter around 10 body parts floating in space while looking in the face of a camera from Frick what is taking some last footage of the (pow..)evant(..ned) what happend in here* wow!did it start allready <waves at camera>?<grin>
O and uh.. ..did i mansioned that i am looking forward to the next vid? No? *Darn i knew that i should make the letters Merc vid¦s Collector brighter on my rifter*
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Kael Dathir
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Posted - 2004.12.04 00:44:00 -
[481]
Awesome vid, absolutely awesome 
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ôThe Jedi are lame. They won't let you PL.ö |

Kael Dathir
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Posted - 2004.12.04 00:44:00 -
[482]
Awesome vid, absolutely awesome 
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ôThe Jedi are lame. They won't let you PL.ö |

Kael Dathir
Evil Strangers Inc. THE HAINE FOUNDATION
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Posted - 2004.12.04 00:44:00 -
[483]
Awesome vid, absolutely awesome 
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ôThe Jedi are lame. They won't let you PL.ö |

Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.04 08:00:00 -
[484]
Very well made video... pretty one sided, but I don't really expect any more than psuedopropoganda from any side in a war, so its all water under the bridge. I wasn't even playhing EVE at the time, so unfortunately it looks like I missed some great fights (
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Solant
Minmatar C A P S U L E
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Posted - 2004.12.04 08:00:00 -
[485]
Very well made video... pretty one sided, but I don't really expect any more than psuedopropoganda from any side in a war, so its all water under the bridge. I wasn't even playhing EVE at the time, so unfortunately it looks like I missed some great fights (
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.04 08:00:00 -
[486]
Very well made video... pretty one sided, but I don't really expect any more than psuedopropoganda from any side in a war, so its all water under the bridge. I wasn't even playhing EVE at the time, so unfortunately it looks like I missed some great fights (
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.12.04 11:28:00 -
[487]
Just watched it again, and noticed the Bill O'Riley quote.
/enters mad Republician tear BWHAHHAWHAHHAAHAHWHAWHAHAAA!!!!!!!
I love Bodycount! These guys rule.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.12.04 11:28:00 -
[488]
Just watched it again, and noticed the Bill O'Riley quote.
/enters mad Republician tear BWHAHHAWHAHHAAHAHWHAWHAHAAA!!!!!!!
I love Bodycount! These guys rule.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Notferr
VentureCorp
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Posted - 2004.12.04 11:28:00 -
[489]
Just watched it again, and noticed the Bill O'Riley quote.
/enters mad Republician tear BWHAHHAWHAHHAAHAHWHAWHAHAAA!!!!!!!
I love Bodycount! These guys rule.
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Plumley
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Posted - 2004.12.06 00:33:00 -
[490]
Edited by: Plumley on 06/12/2004 00:36:14 Wow! That was absolutely amazing The captions were cool, I loved the music and the TS dialogue really added an awesome touch to it all.
I remember hiding from BDCI in my CLS days.... really glad I was no one of consequence
And I must agree with another poster earlier.... please break your promise Seleene and do make another one of these this long again.
There are very few problems that can't be solved by the proper application of High-Explosives. |

Plumley
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Posted - 2004.12.06 00:33:00 -
[491]
Edited by: Plumley on 06/12/2004 00:36:14 Wow! That was absolutely amazing The captions were cool, I loved the music and the TS dialogue really added an awesome touch to it all.
I remember hiding from BDCI in my CLS days.... really glad I was no one of consequence
And I must agree with another poster earlier.... please break your promise Seleene and do make another one of these this long again.
There are very few problems that can't be solved by the proper application of High-Explosives. |

Plumley
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2004.12.06 00:33:00 -
[492]
Edited by: Plumley on 06/12/2004 00:36:14 Wow! That was absolutely amazing The captions were cool, I loved the music and the TS dialogue really added an awesome touch to it all.
I remember hiding from BDCI in my CLS days.... really glad I was no one of consequence
And I must agree with another poster earlier.... please break your promise Seleene and do make another one of these this long again.
There are very few problems that can't be solved by the proper application of High-Explosives. |

oodin
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.16 01:36:00 -
[493]
where is this video now seleene?
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum
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Posted - 2006.10.16 09:29:00 -
[494]
you necromancer! use evemail
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Jabaa
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Posted - 2006.10.16 22:55:00 -
[495]
uhm , think some 1 made a mistake and forgot 2 pay 4 the domain or so , atm im getting a wierd page showing up , with i dont think relates 2 eve ..
so if any1 has a working link of eve-files or so , post post it !!!
think ive missed this 1 ...
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.17 01:02:00 -
[496]
try the mc site they got a vid section i am sure ull find it there
The Rules is a disgrace for Minmatar |
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