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Aditia Holdem Minmatar Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2010.01.09 19:59:00 - [31] Fix this plz. Don't be ******ed.
britishfish Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:00:00 - [32] nothing is a shock any more after failminion tbh fix the game all rdy ccp HTFU say when its broke
Dregek Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Hinkledolph Dude, wtf is wrong with you. Are you or your alliance related to the conflict in any way other than adding 1 man to 200 IT fleets? It's a game, don't be so mad.[/quote lol does your alliance even function anymore? im pretty sure you alliance members where threatening us with "125man fleets" WHERE ARE THEY????? im waiting for them or is "This is sparta" moment
Ap0ll0n Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:02:00 - [34] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Lets face it you were going to lose that station anyways. Its funny but crap at the same time. So... 1. Lol 2. CCP fix the game And now we will never know..
Jarnis McPieksu Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:04:00 - [35] So GM errors are no longer corrected? I'm told Atlas/Solar petitioned before attack and asked a GM if the station was okay to attack without armor (a bugged state, as it should have been fully repaired) a GM, instead of noticing that the station was in an incorrect state and correcting the issue, allowed the attack to take place. CCP GM made an error. Either due to incompetence or on purpose. The error should be corrected - even if it requires reverting the system situation to what it was prior to the station being shot at when it was in a bugged state. If anything this should be pushed to the internal affairs as a potential case of GM playing sides.
ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:05:00 - [36] NC tears = Best tears
darkfuntime Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:05:00 - [37] Page two and ccp is still sucking.
Orkasm Minmatar Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:07:00 - [38] Bump for blue reply, why is this ***gotry still happening? ------------- Lifes a waste of time, Times a waste of life, Get wasted all the time and you'll have the time
Callum545 Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:08:00 - [39] Completely screwed up and as for ccp not replacing stuff or reimbursing how about when the node crahed and everyone who died got there ships back
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Gouglash And yet here is what the petition said: You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension so i'll just snip and bolden the two important parts: A rollback is not an option here. our Quality Assurance team [...] will take a look into the matter and see if they can figure out what exactly went wrong. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr

Drokar Gazer Caldari Conflagration. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:08:00 - [41] CCP: We are announcing a new expansion adding "blah blah blah" content. ...6 months go by, expansion patched... Pilots: hey ccp, thanks for the patch with "Blah blah blah" content, but it doesnt work. CCP: we have no logs of this. Petition moved to "blah blah blah" category, thanks for your $, have a nice day. By the way, we are announcing a new expansion soon with great new shiny toys. ...6 months go by, expansion patched... Pilots: hey ccp, thanks for the patch with "blah blah blah" content, but it doesnt work. CCP we have no logs of this. Petition moved to "blah blah blah" category, thanks for your $, have a nice day. By the way, we are announcing a new expansion soon with great new shiny toys. ...notice a trend? sometime in the year 2015, ccp will look back at their mistake and make a patch to fix it, thereby deleting our Boot.ini file...
Onyc Noziroh Caldari Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:09:00 - [42] I'm a bit confuzled about how Atlas/Solar were apparently able to notice the station being out of armor, and the NC not, or at least decided not to care about its state?
Central Scrutinizer Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Ixil Can I have your stuff? That's pretty funny, IT Alliance member. Because I seem to remember that when IT faced a problem with sov mechanics, they made a whine thread on CAOD. Of course, since you guys are the alliance with the most favouritism chucked it's way by CCP, your problem was fixed. WI, being a smaller alliance not populated with GMs and Devs, is unlikely to get this kind of completely fair and legitimate treatment. Instead, they'll probably have to settle for "we won't **** this all up next system, we hope." *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected])
Haniblecter Teg Gallente F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Callum545 Completely screwed up and as for ccp not replacing stuff or reimbursing how about when the node crahed and everyone who died got there ships back Got their ships back AND kept the insurance. Our enemies don't just get their crap corrected, they make out too! Fairly certain most our pilots KM's didn't even register, either. ----------------- Friends Forever
Finanche Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:14:00 - [45] I see CCP problem. If like most MMORPG games, you either have to do a mass rollback, complete server (which means, every singe person in the game and ** off 20,000 - 30,000 players) or you can go an rollback everyone which took place in the fight which would take weeks to sort out and implement, costing CCP a crap load of time and money (thus ing off a few hundred). Is it possible to just give sov back, yes, but there all kinds of additional problem that come with that too, but I do not have specifics on what took place so I can not comment on that. Should the problem be fixed? Ethically I say yes, realistically I would have to say no. -- Read my Blog - Congo Free State**
darkfuntime Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:15:00 - [46] Why does wi have to be ccps crash test dummies anyways?
Kerisai Caldari Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:15:00 - [47] It'd be nice if once - just once - CCP finished writing EVE before going with another expansion so they can market it some more. "Why fix what we already have, when we can just shove out another expansion pack?" Also - when in doubt, a thread in CAOD is sure to attract a nice, formal and civilised debate Way to go us.
Onyc Noziroh Caldari Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:17:00 - [48] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Got their ships back AND kept the insurance. Our enemies don't just get their crap corrected, they make out too! Fairly certain most our pilots KM's didn't even register, either. Are you implying this hasn't happened to WI? The amount of "Waaaaah - we died 'cause the node crashed"-threads here seems to say otherwise
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:19:00 - [49] WI = whine incredibly ? Take it like a man, shrug it off and keep going. Or just die if you can't cope with it.
Mr Macawesome Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:21:00 - [50] You know you guys could probably kick us and solar out if you spent half the effort you do crying on forums and used it for internet spaceship boat violence. Official Derek Chu fanatic

Hinkledolph Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:22:00 - [51] Originally by: Dregek Originally by: Hinkledolph Dude, wtf is wrong with you. Are you or your alliance related to the conflict in any way other than adding 1 man to 200 IT fleets? It's a game, don't be so mad.[/quote lol does your alliance even function anymore? im pretty sure you alliance members where threatening us with "125man fleets" WHERE ARE THEY????? im waiting for them or is "This is sparta" moment Our alliance is dying but you don't see me acting like a fool on caod. Actualy I am looking for new home now. Can I join mighty Aeternus and learn the ways of pure win?
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:22:00 - [52] Op does have a valid point.
Alar Tangor Caldari Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:23:00 - [53] Originally by: Finanche I see CCP problem. If like most MMORPG games, you either have to do a mass rollback, complete server (which means, every singe person in the game and ** off 20,000 - 30,000 players) or you can go an rollback everyone which took place in the fight which would take weeks to sort out and implement, costing CCP a crap load of time and money (thus **ing off a few hundred). Is it possible to just give sov back, yes, but there all kinds of additional problem that come with that too, but I do not have specifics on what took place so I can not comment on that. Should the problem be fixed? Ethically I say yes, realistically I would have to say no. ah well wanted to ignore this thread but here it goes... the point is that you DONT have to roll back the server in any way since it does not impact on empireplayers or even players that were in the system next door in any way... hell there has not even been all that much in the way of shiplosses if our KB is up to date due to overwhelming numbers of hostiles in system for most of the day. we know GMs can fiddle with sov mechanics as in put structures into reinforce/out of reinforce and spawn stuff from previous sov problems (like the quoted IT one), and the logs that would help CCP fix it wont magically vanish if it is changed now, as that is what a log does... it records PAST things that wont get changed by present happenings. so there is basically no reason to not fix this problem after the GM even said "yes there is a problem we know its there" Alar's Official Mod-proof Sig
Sub Trader Minmatar Victory Not Vengeance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:24:00 - [54] you would have lost the system if there were 10 timers. just be glad your pilots may have surviving ships for the next fight.
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:28:00 - [55] **** like this has happened to everyone else at one time or another, stop whining.
Mendolorian Girl Caldari Conflagration. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Sub Trader you would have lost the system if there were 10 timers. just be glad your pilots may have surviving ships for the next fight. That's entirely possible, however the events leading up to the fight indicate otherwise (like Atlas's 5 previous attempts that were all repelled).
Finanche Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:32:00 - [57] Originally by: Alar Tangor Originally by: Finanche I see CCP problem. If like most MMORPG games, you either have to do a mass rollback, complete server (which means, every singe person in the game and ** off 20,000 - 30,000 players) or you can go an rollback everyone which took place in the fight which would take weeks to sort out and implement, costing CCP a crap load of time and money (thus ing off a few hundred). Is it possible to just give sov back, yes, but there all kinds of additional problem that come with that too, but I do not have specifics on what took place so I can not comment on that. Should the problem be fixed? Ethically I say yes, realistically I would have to say no. ah well wanted to ignore this thread but here it goes... the point is that you DONT have to roll back the server in any way since it does not impact on empireplayers or even players that were in the system next door in any way... hell there has not even been all that much in the way of shiplosses if our KB is up to date due to overwhelming numbers of hostiles in system for most of the day. we know GMs can fiddle with sov mechanics as in put structures into reinforce/out of reinforce and spawn stuff from previous sov problems (like the quoted IT one), and the logs that would help CCP fix it wont magically vanish if it is changed now, as that is what a log does... it records PAST things that wont get changed by present happenings. so there is basically no reason to not fix this problem after the GM even said "yes there is a problem we know its there" Not arguing the point, just stated a fact dealing with MMORPG games, since working in the industry. Also stated my opionion based on the facts at hand. Is it possible to fix, yes, is it realistic I do not think so. There are more than NC and south that were involved. Game mechanics of jumping, people in near by systems or in the system not involved in the fight. Point in fact, all the hubblub about people getting ships back and insurance too.....that is just one of the many issue that will have to be corrected. Do not get me wrong, I consider myself a neutral party in this matter, however looking at all the aspects of what would have to be done to fix it, econimically speaking from a company stand-point I would not do it either. It is the real world, money talks, thats the truth and sometimes it hurts. And the I quit stuff, they dont care. Look, for every person who quits there are 3 to take thier place, even more if 0.0 alliances fail and people quit. There are other things that can be done however you will have to check your locallities of where you live and follow thier, fcc, bbb and other regulations :O -- Read my Blog - Congo Free State**
Dregek Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:33:00 - [58] Originally by: Hinkledolph Originally by: Dregek Originally by: Hinkledolph Dude, wtf is wrong with you. Are you or your alliance related to the conflict in any way other than adding 1 man to 200 IT fleets? It's a game, don't be so mad.[/quote lol does your alliance even function anymore? im pretty sure you alliance members where threatening us with "125man fleets" WHERE ARE THEY????? im waiting for them or is "This is sparta" moment Our alliance is dying but you don't see me acting like a fool on caod. Actualy I am looking for new home now. Can I join mighty Aeternus and learn the ways of pure win? this is coad its what you do hmmmm now where did i say we are mighty & made of pure win? hunts in past posts dont see it there... linky?
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:34:00 - [59] Edited by: Trebor Notlimah on 09/01/2010 20:35:16 I think the best thing for the NC to do to get CCP's attention is to go on strike. Get all of your members to all unsubscribe at once. Don't come back until the issues are resolved. If the entire NC unsubscribes at the same time, it would take money out of their pocket and then you will get their attention. You would also cripple the T2 market. If you need help organizing this let me know. 10,000 subscribers leaving all at once would remove $150,000 USD from their pockets PER MONTH -- thats the equivalent of two annual salaries of a solid game developer per month.
Kaigon Jane Caldari LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2010.01.09 20:35:00 - [60] Originally by: Tomcat As most of you may or may not know. A system in geminate, y8r-..the station was allowed to be captured after a single RF timer. Since this was completely wrong, a petition was filed immediately under the "stuck" section. We were advised that the situation was wrong, and it would be looked into asap today. I rest with the peace of mind that the situation would be resolved. I log in today, to find another response to the petition. I noticed quickly it has been moved to the "Exploits" catagory of the system. and it boils down to this... 1. We know what happened was wrong. 2. No we will not fix it. 3. We do understand the inconvenience this caused, and is causing, and for that we can only apologize profoundly. Gee, thanks. I don't care who's side you support in this war, this is bull**tery of the highest order. Solar/Atlas were allowed to gain a system on what has been now classified as an EXPLOIT, and all they can say is they are "sorry" Remove the solar TCU to a corp hanger somewhere Replace the WI TCU and IHUB Put the station back into RF put the solar SBU back on the gate. Contrary to what people on these boards might say, personally I don't mind losing if its legit... however, losing systems to exploits is not something i invested the last year and a half to have happen. Discuss. ** happens guys, why didn't you guys defend your own station with regular pewpew. Also go take it back with regular pewpew. stop whining



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