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Tomcat
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:23:00 -
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As most of you may or may not know. A system in geminate, y8r-..the station was allowed to be captured after a single RF timer. Since this was completely wrong, a petition was filed immediately under the "stuck" section.
We were advised that the situation was wrong, and it would be looked into asap today. I rest with the peace of mind that the situation would be resolved.
I log in today, to find another response to the petition. I noticed quickly it has been moved to the "Exploits" catagory of the system. and it boils down to this...
1. We know what happened was wrong. 2. No we will not fix it. 3. We do understand the inconvenience this caused, and is causing, and for that we can only apologize profoundly.
Gee, thanks.
I don't care who's side you support in this war, this is bull****tery of the highest order. Solar/Atlas were allowed to gain a system on what has been now classified as an EXPLOIT, and all they can say is they are "sorry"
Remove the solar TCU to a corp hanger somewhere Replace the WI TCU and IHUB Put the station back into RF put the solar SBU back on the gate.
Contrary to what people on these boards might say, personally I don't mind losing if its legit... however, losing systems to exploits is not something i invested the last year and a half to have happen.
Discuss.
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Gorbon Hauler
Caldari The Jamaican Bobsled Team G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:24:00 -
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Sorry....hahahaha!
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Dregek
Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:25:00 -
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bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:27:00 -
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Sux if this is true.
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Gallente Citizen 345632
Gallente Robbing You of Your Space Pixels
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dregek bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Timmpa
Minmatar Unknown Soldiers Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:30:00 -
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Good job CCP :)
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Yafn
Minmatar Robbing You of Your Space Pixels
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gallente Citizen 345632
Originally by: Dregek bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:32:00 -
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tears
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Bonzoli
Amarr Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:33:00 -
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Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.
I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.
- Bonzoli
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Serotta Ortot
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:34:00 -
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...and here I thought only Triumvirate used every exploit known to man...
Who was the GM? CCP Atlas?
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Dregek
Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bonzoli Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.
I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.
- Bonzoli
bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww with extra baaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwww
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Meno Theaetetus on 09/01/2010 19:35:10 In response to your petition I'm afraid we cant reimburse your station as our programmers cv's show no qualifications.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:36:00 -
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First we have to deal with the fact that weŚre fighting superior numbers, then dominion is released and we have to fight extreme lag, and now we have to fight ccp too?
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Ixil
Amarr Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bonzoli Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.
I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.
- Bonzoli
Can I have your stuff?
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Ay Liz
Caldari Space Pioneers Blade.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:37:00 -
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As if one station system would mean total failure and the loss of all space in the region.. I mean, it's not like we're talking about Wildl.. OH WAIT
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Varrakk
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Bonzoli Sadly I am taking resubscribe off my 3 accounts. Planetside again, below average support, patches, and game redesign. I can get this from any game. So you have my vote Tomcat.
I'll of course support our efforts until that timer runs out. But I can not in good faith continue to pay for a game with such lackluster support.
- Bonzoli
Your stuff, I can has?
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Dregek
Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ap0ll0n First we have to deal with the fact that weŚre fighting superior numbers, then dominion is released and we have to fight extreme lag, and now we have to fight ccp too?
LOL superior numbers? LOFL
consider that the nc alliances have a combined player base of 14k people and the consider that the alliances facing you have maybe half that you shouldnt mention numbers
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Ay Liz
Caldari Space Pioneers Blade.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dregek
Originally by: Ap0ll0n First we have to deal with the fact that weŚre fighting superior numbers, then dominion is released and we have to fight extreme lag, and now we have to fight ccp too?
LOL superior numbers? LOFL
consider that the nc alliances have a combined player base of 14k people and the consider that the alliances facing you have maybe half that you shouldnt mention numbers
13k of those 14k people are ratting alts so he might have a point there
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Baumi
Gallente Liga Freier Terraner Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:44:00 -
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Seems like CCP doesn't replace anything which is lost in big fights anymore.
Good to see that there are no exceptions.
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Bagomir
Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:46:00 -
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Yarr, smells salty tears!!
"I say we take off and nuke them from orbit...its the only way to be sure" |
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Dregek
Minmatar Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dregek on 09/01/2010 19:46:46
Originally by: Ay Liz
Originally by: Dregek
Originally by: Ap0ll0n First we have to deal with the fact that weŚre fighting superior numbers, then dominion is released and we have to fight extreme lag, and now we have to fight ccp too?
LOL superior numbers? LOFL
consider that the nc alliances have a combined player base of 14k people and the consider that the alliances facing you have maybe half that you shouldnt mention numbers
13k of those 14k people are ratting alts so he might have a point there
13,000 hulks with 5 warrior 1s each to the rescue?
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darkfuntime
Minmatar Fat J Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: darkfuntime on 09/01/2010 19:49:46 Edited by: darkfuntime on 09/01/2010 19:48:05 Maybe cpp could do a rollback,its not like the didnt do that yesterday,if they dont ccp sucks the fat slong
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Central Scrutinizer
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:50:00 -
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It's not an exploit, except in the sense that Atlas et al took advantage of a bug in their favour. I don't think they had this planned.
But this is ridiculous. The petition (which I've seen), say "What has already taken place cannot be undone". This is completely untrue.
It is very easy to undo this, as Tomcat said.
Remove the Solar TCU to a corp hangar in their staging system. Replace the Solar SBU. Stick the Station back into RF from the time of it's bugged capture, and replace the I-Hub with it's RF timer.
CCP, you know this is wrong, and you've made this decision purely out of cynicism. You are hoping that doing this is going to be less dramatic than actually fixing what you have admitted is a fault in how the fight for this system should have proceeded.
How about, for once, your company actually does what is right for the people involved, not just what you think will be easiest to write into a petition box? *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Boppi on 09/01/2010 19:51:49 Cry more.
Also, Atlas checked the armor of the outpost, asked a GM and then attacked.
It's not their fault they have better intel of that outpost than you have. ___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |
XJennieX
Minmatar Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dregek bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
How about u and all other ****ers who support cheating come and suck my ****.
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dregek Edited by: Dregek on 09/01/2010 19:46:46
Originally by: Ay Liz
Originally by: Dregek
Originally by: Ap0ll0n First we have to deal with the fact that weŚre fighting superior numbers, then dominion is released and we have to fight extreme lag, and now we have to fight ccp too?
LOL superior numbers? LOFL
consider that the nc alliances have a combined player base of 14k people and the consider that the alliances facing you have maybe half that you shouldnt mention numbers
13k of those 14k people are ratting alts so he might have a point there
13,000 hulks with 5 warrior 1s each to the rescue?
Dude, wtf is wrong with you. Are you or your alliance related to the conflict in any way other than adding 1 man to 200 IT fleets? It's a game, don't be so mad.
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Martin Mckenna
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:52:00 -
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Lets face it you were going to lose that station anyways. Its funny but crap at the same time.
So...
1. Lol
2. CCP fix the game ---------------------
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MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:53:00 -
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I lost a mothership to a bug, CCP dosn't care.
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saangocaste
Gallente Nex Gero Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:54:00 -
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The OP in this thread...he mad
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Gouglash
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Boppi Edited by: Boppi on 09/01/2010 19:51:49 Cry more.
Also, Atlas checked the armor of the outpost, asked a GM and then attacked.
It's not their fault they have better intel of that outpost than you have.
And yet here is what the petition said:
Quote: We have passed all the relevant information on this case on to our Quality Assurance team and they will take a look into the matter and see if they can figure out what exactly went wrong. From their findings, we'll do all we can to prevent an incident such as this one from arising again.
What has already taken place cannot be undone, regrettably. We do understand the inconvenience this caused, and is causing, and for that we can only apologize profoundly.
Best regards, Senior GM Gusto
The senior GM here knows that this was a mistake, that the armor should have been repped, and that this should, in this mythically perfect world he maintains cannot come into being, be undone.
He just refuses to do so.
Because like every issue where CCP ****s up, they want it to go away via locked threads and forum bans, rather than having to actually lift a finger to fix it.
This is why T20 is still employed at CCP.
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