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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.16 19:23:00 -
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I have an exclusive agreement with LadyOfWrath to purchase One Stop Research, One Stop Research Alliance and One Stop Mining, including all tangible and intangible assets for 175B.
The corporations involved have all been audited by Grendell, and the presence of all tangible assets has been verified.
This bond offers you the opportunity to invest in an existing blue chip venture with an excellent track record.
Bonds û Total Value 150B Number: 300 Face Value: Five hundred million ISK each (500m). Interest Rate: 4% monthly. Collateral: Full. Please see the Security paragraph below for details. Period: Open-ended Repurchase: There may be partial or full repurchase of these bonds. Should that happen, bonds would be repurchased at face value. Trading: You are free to trade these bonds, but all trades must be done through Grendell. All trades must be confirmed in this thread in order to ensure payment of interest to the right holder of the bonds.
Priority Rights Existing One Stop investors will have priority in reserving bonds.
Right of Refusal I will not accept investments from known scammers. Should an investor provide material support in future to known scammers, his bond(s) will be repurchased and offered for sale.
Interest Cover The businesses currently generate profits in excess of ten billion ISK monthly. That provides adequate cover for bond interest payments.
Various expansion plans are being considered which will strengthen the business and provide additional interest cover.
Surplus profits will be left in the business to build up a cash reserve to cover three months interest payments.
Security Grendell, LadyOfWrath and SetraDark have agreed to be trustees and to hold all shares. Grendell will be CEO of the corporations. BPOs valued at 127B will be locked down. Ji Sama is providing collateral in the form of blue chip shares valued at 25B. Those shares will be held by a trusted third party.
In the event that I disappear without warning and there is no communication from me for three months, Grendell will liquidate the corporations and repay investors.
In the event that interest payments are not made in full for three consecutive months, including making up previous shortfalls, Grendell will liquidate the corporations and repay investors.
His liquidation fee will be 5% of the then current NAV. Should he require assistance by other trustees in the liquidation process, they will be suitably compensated.
Business Operations LoW has agreed to remain on board for a period of 28 days in order to ensure a smooth transition.
The business has one other member of staff who has agreed to stay on.
This is not a time intensive operation, so I do not anticipate any conflicts with my existing activities. However, should any unforeseen conflicts arise, existing activities will be scaled down.
I currently run nine research characters of my own (90 slots which are in constant use), so I am familiar with the processes involved in this business.
Business Assets BPOs û 127B In-space assets û 16B Inventory û 5B Cash û 3B Other assets verified by audit: 4B Total 155B
Grendell¦s view is that is a conservative estimate.
Other assets include 6 Research characters - say 6B That leaves goodwill of a maximum of 11B against the sales price of 175B. Please note the sales price includes the website, all business contacts and methods of sales.
Reporting As this is a bond, there is no requirement to publish monthly accounts. Nevertheless, in the interests of transparency, full accounts prepared in accordance with accounting standards will be issued by Magnu Stormhawk.
Continued in next post.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.16 19:35:00 -
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Assessment and Mitigation of Risks
Note: Please bear in mind these are my personal risk assessments. Your views may vary.
Theft The bond is fully collateralised by locked down BPOs and collateral provided by Ji Sama. The Board of Trustees consists of Grendell, LadyOfWrath and SetraDark. It would take collusion by two to steal BPOs. Risk assessment - Low.
RL Issues or Burnout This is not a time-intensive operation, so the risks of burnout are minimal. The consequences of my disappearance have been covered elsewhere. Risk assessment û Low.
Adverse Business Conditions This is an existing blue chip operation with an excellent record û not an untried startup. It is in a strong position with an excess of solid assets, and is well capable of weathering low cycles. A cash reserve will be built up to cover downturns in profitability. Existing merc contracts will be extended. LadyOfWrath has agreed to a one year non-competition clause. Risk assessment û Low.
Competence I am an unknown quantity to most of you. Naturally, I would not have taken this on If I did not believe I could perform. Ji Sama, my previous CEO, has attested to my competence. Risk assessment - For you to decide.
One more post to follow.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.16 19:37:00 -
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Now taking reservations.
Note: when the bond is filled I will ask investors to transfer cash to Grendell. Please DO NOT send cash to Grendell until I post specifically asking for transfers to be effected.
Reservations tehsuxOr - 1B
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Synseer
Not Me Shoot It
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Posted - 2010.01.16 21:25:00 -
[4]
i'll reserve 2b. I am a current investor.

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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.01.16 22:15:00 -
[5]
I'd like to jump in for 1 bill, please ;) --
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leona starfire
LS Trading and Production Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.16 23:50:00 -
[6]
I Will take 10B.
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.17 00:34:00 -
[7]
I'd like to reserve 1bil ISK given all the new details this looks like a solid venture.
Want a sig made? Contact me in game. Click my sig to see samples |

Jadun
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Posted - 2010.01.17 01:00:00 -
[8]
yo ho
i am an ivestor with LoW. but at this time i got to decrease my investment.
i would like to invest into 1 bond for 500 mil isk.
hope to see the rest of my isk paid out.
jadun
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2010.01.17 01:21:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Jadun yo ho
i am an ivestor with LoW. but at this time i got to decrease my investment.
i would like to invest into 1 bond for 500 mil isk.
hope to see the rest of my isk paid out.
jadun
That must surely be a mistake :p I think he means he wants to double his investment ;)
or else....
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Jadun
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Posted - 2010.01.17 02:20:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Ji Sama
That must surely be a mistake :p I think he means he wants to double his investment ;)
or else....
go back to work Ji
Daddy wants a new Caddy
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.17 10:44:00 -
[11]
I'll pop 2 bil in this though what do you mean by > Other assets include 6 Research characters - say 6B <
are these being transferred to your accounts ? -- | Capital |

Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.17 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS I'll pop 2 bil in this though what do you mean by > Other assets include 6 Research characters - say 6B <
are these being transferred to your accounts ?
Yea, that was an eye popper as well. You can't account share, and someone would have to pony up the $120 to transfer them.
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Seline Gylen
SG Investments
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Posted - 2010.01.17 13:26:00 -
[13]
Reserving 1.5b.
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Anne Lou
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Posted - 2010.01.17 15:50:00 -
[14]
Reserving 1b. |

LadyOfWrath
Caldari One Stop Mining Shop One Stop Research
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Posted - 2010.01.17 16:20:00 -
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That would be me who is going to pony up the cash for the transfers. This is the onyl way it can be doen since I am the seller.
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Phoebe Halliwel
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Posted - 2010.01.17 17:52:00 -
[16]
Would like to reinvest current stocks, 62 @ just short of 47m per share is I think the closing valuation, which is around 2.9b.
Additional investment of 2.1b or whatever the number is to round it upto 5b.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.17 18:26:00 -
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Are you issuing shares from a holding corp to cover the 150B?
With 300 bonds its very difficult to effect manual payments, and bond trading and share transfer becomes down to a manual ledger.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.17 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray Are you issuing shares from a holding corp to cover the 150B?
With 300 bonds its very difficult to effect manual payments, and bond trading and share transfer becomes down to a manual ledger.
I plan to follow the same process as LOW. Investor details will be maintained on the existing website. I¦m building a spreadsheet now as reservations are made, so the calculation per se is not an issue. Assuming the spread of investments follows what we¦ve seen so far with reservations, I could end up with 60 manual transactions to be processed. Doing that once a month is not a problem for me.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.17 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: cosmoray Are you issuing shares from a holding corp to cover the 150B?
With 300 bonds its very difficult to effect manual payments, and bond trading and share transfer becomes down to a manual ledger.
I plan to follow the same process as LOW. Investor details will be maintained on the existing website. I¦m building a spreadsheet now as reservations are made, so the calculation per se is not an issue. Assuming the spread of investments follows what we¦ve seen so far with reservations, I could end up with 60 manual transactions to be processed. Doing that once a month is not a problem for me.
IMO that process is not as secure as having a holding corp and paying dividends, and shares are easily transferable. It didn't matter previously about the website as LOW wasn't paying dividends but building up NAV.
Two bad things can go wrong:
1. You make mistakes, and pay the wrong people (it is easy I have done it) 2. What happened if you scammed and wiped the database. This is what happened with DBANK.
Now if there are actual shares, Grendell and the trustees and can easily liquidate the assets and announce a share re-purchase. This can't be done if there is no database.
I am not implying that you will SCAM (far from it), I am just pointing out what is safest for investors. As you have decided to have trustees to make the bond VERY SAFE, you should make the share handling system equally as safe.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.17 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 17/01/2010 21:24:52 Edited by: RAW23 on 17/01/2010 21:23:50
Originally by: cosmoray
2. What happened if you scammed and wiped the database. This is what happened with DBANK.
Now if there are actual shares, Grendell and the trustees and can easily liquidate the assets and announce a share re-purchase. This can't be done if there is no database.
As long as all purchases are logged in this thread, and all transfers are also publicly logged (in this thread or another), is there really an issue with a database crash (more likely than scam, imo, but then I'm biased )? With these basic public records any database can easily be rebuilt. A bank is in a very different position as they are privately logging numerous transactions, with no public record. But that will not be the situation here. I'm not sure that using in-game shares really adds any additional security.
On the plus side, with virtual bonds rather than in-game shares, some of the difficulties surrounding EMFI's holdings in AATP could be avoided if such a scenario were ever to arise.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.01.17 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: cosmoray Are you issuing shares from a holding corp to cover the 150B?
With 300 bonds its very difficult to effect manual payments, and bond trading and share transfer becomes down to a manual ledger.
I plan to follow the same process as LOW. Investor details will be maintained on the existing website. I¦m building a spreadsheet now as reservations are made, so the calculation per se is not an issue. Assuming the spread of investments follows what we¦ve seen so far with reservations, I could end up with 60 manual transactions to be processed. Doing that once a month is not a problem for me.
IMO that process is not as secure as having a holding corp and paying dividends, and shares are easily transferable. It didn't matter previously about the website as LOW wasn't paying dividends but building up NAV.
Two bad things can go wrong:
1. You make mistakes, and pay the wrong people (it is easy I have done it) 2. What happened if you scammed and wiped the database. This is what happened with DBANK.
Now if there are actual shares, Grendell and the trustees and can easily liquidate the assets and announce a share re-purchase. This can't be done if there is no database.
I am not implying that you will SCAM (far from it), I am just pointing out what is safest for investors. As you have decided to have trustees to make the bond VERY SAFE, you should make the share handling system equally as safe.
Honestly this sounds like the best idea to increase the safety net. I approve of this message.
Also, its really simple to do. Titan BPC Auction Thread |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.17 21:49:00 -
[22]
cosmo, RAW, AC - I¦ll reply to you in the discussion thread.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.18 05:19:00 -
[23]
1 bil for 2 shares reserved for me please
Eve mail me when payment due.
Cheers!
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Trakinor
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Posted - 2010.01.18 16:15:00 -
[24]
i want to reserve 3B worth
message me in game when payment is do
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.18 18:39:00 -
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I believe the BPO list should be posted here, so investors can decide on the value of the collateral.
Most cap BPO's aren't selling for more than NPC price so for collateral purposes should be calulated at NPC.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.18 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray I believe the BPO list should be posted here, so investors can decide on the value of the collateral.
Most cap BPO's aren't selling for more than NPC price so for collateral purposes should be calulated at NPC.
Cosmo, you know full well that there is a discussion thread over there ----->.
It's starting to look as if you are only really interested in derailing this thread. Is this out of pique because your dodgy business dealings have led you to be barred from investing?
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.18 18:55:00 -
[27]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: cosmoray I believe the BPO list should be posted here, so investors can decide on the value of the collateral.
Most cap BPO's aren't selling for more than NPC price so for collateral purposes should be calulated at NPC.
Cosmo, you know full well that there is a discussion thread over there ----->.
It's starting to look as if you are only really interested in derailing this thread. Is this out of pique because your dodgy business dealings have led you to be barred from investing?
Statements of full collateral and posting what the collateral is are two different things. IMO most collateral for loans is posted.
What would it harm if the BPO list was provided.
Complete transparency only improves offers. At the moment less than 20% of the bond has filled. In my experience if large offerings don't fill a large portion quickly then they are unlikely to meet goals.
Bad Bobby's bond filled the first one or two Titan sets (130B approx.) very quickly, and it was a bit slower for the rest. This bond hasn't exactly got off to a flier.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.18 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 18/01/2010 19:14:31
Originally by: cosmoray
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: cosmoray I believe the BPO list should be posted here, so investors can decide on the value of the collateral.
Most cap BPO's aren't selling for more than NPC price so for collateral purposes should be calulated at NPC.
Cosmo, you know full well that there is a discussion thread over there ----->.
It's starting to look as if you are only really interested in derailing this thread. Is this out of pique because your dodgy business dealings have led you to be barred from investing?
Statements of full collateral and posting what the collateral is are two different things. IMO most collateral for loans is posted.
What would it harm if the BPO list was provided.
Complete transparency only improves offers. At the moment less than 20% of the bond has filled. In my experience if large offerings don't fill a large portion quickly then they are unlikely to meet goals.
Bad Bobby's bond filled the first one or two Titan sets (130B approx.) very quickly, and it was a bit slower for the rest. This bond hasn't exactly got off to a flier.
I'm not suggesting there is a problem with a list, although that's up to Varo. I'm suggesting that there is a problem with you posting your suggestions here when you know perfectly well that the forum for considering and responding to those ideas is not in this thread.
I'm also not sure why you think commenting on the speed at which this is filling is appropriate here. And if you don't think it will fill, why do you continue to waste your time finding more and more mud to fling at it. Varo has raised over 50 billion in 4 days (including my 25 bil unsecured). That seems like a pretty good start to me. I'll also be putting some more into the secured portion once I have finished winding down my operations.
Given the efforts you and Bobby are putting in to derailing this, it's not surprising that many investors will wait for the dust to settle to see if any of your objections remain standing before making their final decisions. I'm confident that the mud will be wiped away, although doubtless some people are still stupid enough to follow your lead on the viability of investments and will fail to think for themselves. Varo will lose some investors due to your efforts. It remains to be seen whether your grudge and your attempts at bullying will be sufficient to prevent the offering filling fully though.
And to reiterate - if you want to respond to my post, let's take it outside, so to speak, to the thread specifically set aside for these discussions.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.18 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 18/01/2010 19:14:31
I'm not suggesting there is a problem with a list, although that's up to Varo. I'm suggesting that there is a problem with you posting your suggestions here when you know perfectly well that the forum for considering and responding to those ideas is not in this thread.
I'm also not sure why you think commenting on the speed at which this is filling is appropriate here. And if you don't think it will fill, why do you continue to waste your time finding more and more mud to fling at it. Varo has raised over 50 billion in 4 days (including my 25 bil unsecured). That seems like a pretty good start to me. I'll also be putting some more into the secured portion once I have finished winding down my operations.
Given the efforts you and Bobby are putting in to derailing this, it's not surprising that many investors will wait for the dust to settle to see if any of your objections remain standing before making their final decisions. I'm confident that the mud will be wiped away, although doubtless some people are still stupid enough to follow your lead on the viability of investments and will fail to think for themselves. Varo will lose some investors due to your efforts. It remains to be seen whether your grudge and your attempts at bullying will be sufficient to prevent the offering filling fully though.
And to reiterate - if you want to respond to my post, let's take it outside, so to speak, to the thread specifically set aside for these discussions.
Can't enforce where I respond, it's a forum.
Everything I have said or asked in any of these threads about this purchase have been from an investor standpoint. I have been trying to make an opinion on how safe the investment is. I have been doing the same thing for 3 years in nearly ALL investment threads (its my RP if you like), others have done the same.
You think that all my and BB's statements have been directed at calling your character into question which has never been the case.
You have decided to find *tone* in mine or Bad bobby's statements when there wasn't any, you think we are calling your reputation into question when we haven't.
You need to stop getting emotional about our questions, which might be hard or un-diplomatic but are straight forward investor questions and have no opinions about you but just about the business at hand.
IMO your emotional outbursts and changes in your financing have made the investment less trustworthy than if you had just kept out of it. You have other issues with me that should be kept separate from varo's offering.
Varo did not start out with the best opening, but was adapting to criticism and making changes to make this more investor friendly and still has some way to go to make it a safe bond financed at 4% (this is a large amnount).
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.18 19:34:00 -
[30]
Guys, I really, really, really would appreciate it if you would post any questions in the discussion thread, not a thread that was specifically opened to take reservations. No, cosmo, I cannot force you to do that, but I would appreciate it if you would do so. The discussion thread is linked in my opening post in this thread.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.18 19:56:00 -
[31]
Originally by: cosmoray
Can't enforce where I respond, it's a forum.
You missed out "so nah nah na na nah".
Of course I can't enforce where you post. But ... this is a reservation thread. Reservations are on-topic here. The other thread is a discussion thread. You know, for discussions. In that thread discussions about the bond are on topic. I'm not sure why you think that your discursive points need to be spread across both of them.
So, I will discuss the rest of what you have to say in the discussion thread. I hope you will have the manners to keep your discussions in the place where they will be on topic too.
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Josefine Eramdem
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Posted - 2010.01.18 22:44:00 -
[32]
I like to reserve 1 bond, 0.5b
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Proton Power
Amarr Luck Yourself Into Isk
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Posted - 2010.01.18 23:01:00 -
[33]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: cosmoray
Can't enforce where I respond, it's a forum.
You missed out "so nah nah na na nah".
Of course I can't enforce where you post. But ... this is a reservation thread. Reservations are on-topic here. The other thread is a discussion thread. You know, for discussions. In that thread discussions about the bond are on topic. I'm not sure why you think that your discursive points need to be spread across both of them.
So, I will discuss the rest of what you have to say in the discussion thread. I hope you will have the manners to keep your discussions in the place where they will be on topic too.
I can understand that the opp would want this to be the reservation thread, while the other thread remains for discussing, but at the same time, if somone is against this bond for what ever reason I am glad they post in both. Covers newer investors so they dont see a reservation thread with nobody saying much about it.
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.01.18 23:04:00 -
[34]
Reserving 1 bond please. 500 mil. Patri
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RJ Nobel
Nobel Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.01.18 23:36:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Proton Power
I can understand that the opp would want this to be the reservation thread, while the other thread remains for discussing, but at the same time, if somone is against this bond for what ever reason I am glad they post in both. Covers newer investors so they dont see a reservation thread with nobody saying much about it.
I have to agree with Cosmo and PP. Deflecting criticism to one thread while accepting reservations in another thread is a known scam tactic. I don't believe that Varo/Raw are intending to scam, but the multiple-thread confusion doesn't help anyone.
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Sundomi Sky
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Posted - 2010.01.19 11:53:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 19/01/2010 11:53:08 ill take 10 bonds @ 5bil please
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 12:05:00 -
[37]
Originally by: RAW23 Of course I can't enforce where you post.
You could ask CCP to.
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Xanthar Rex
Noir.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 13:13:00 -
[38]
Put me down for 2Bil (4 bonds).
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.19 22:29:00 -
[39]
Thanks to everyone who has posted their interest in reserving bonds so far.
By my count we¦re up to 37B plus 25B unsecured from RAW23.
Posts which belong in the discussion thread (linked in my opening post) have muddied the waters in here at times, but I¦m pretty sure I¦ve made a note of all reservations. If I have not, please let me know.
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Regulator6
Minmatar New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.01.19 23:05:00 -
[40]
Put me down for 2 shares --1bil
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Deuce Bigalo
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Posted - 2010.01.20 17:20:00 -
[41]
I would like to reserve a single share of possible please - 500m
Good luck.
Regards Deuce
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Krythas
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Posted - 2010.01.21 05:14:00 -
[42]
I'd like to reserve two shares at 1bn please
Guessing I'll get an eve mail when payment is due ?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.21 13:31:00 -
[43]
6 bonds please (@ 3 bil). Will probably take more later when I have finished liquidating, if there are any left.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.01.21 13:40:00 -
[44]
Edited by: DrefsabZN on 21/01/2010 13:40:07 Don't forget my 40 bond reservation (as prior investor) pending approval from LoW to transfer my bond + shares directly.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.21 13:46:00 -
[45]
Thanks for your reservation, Krythas. Yes, I will mail you when payment is due.
DrefsabZN, I will add your reservation now, and note that it depends on approval from LoW to transfer your bonds and shares directly. Thank you very much.
All other reservations have been updated.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:00:00 -
[46]
From a post by LoW in his own thread:
Originally by: LadyOfWrath Yes it will be done. I just need to do the math for transfers since stocks will have an odd value.
Final Value: 46,954,655.21 ISK Per Stock
This value will be assigned when doing stock transfers. Should any stockholder have ISK remaining when a transfer is completed it will be paid out to them. No player may request Bonds of greater value than stocks they currently own without posting they intend to pay the idfference in Varo's thread. All transfers will have priority over any other reservations.
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Mike'P
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:14:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Mike''P on 21/01/2010 15:15:20 Varo,
I'm an existing stockholder in One Stop, to the tune of 40 stocks, and I'd like to reserve 2 bonds please (1 Bill) in your takeover.
If my calculator tells me correctly, if LoW transfers over 1Bill from my stock holding, that leaves me with 878,186,208 ISK to come back from One Stop.
Edit: calculator broken first time around 
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:19:00 -
[48]
Edited by: DrefsabZN on 21/01/2010 15:22:31 Cool that's good
So with my 10bil bond, plus 20 shares @ 46,954,655.21 ISK each that will make total value of 10,939,093,104.2 ISK.
Also I confirm I will make up the difference of 9,060,906,895.8 ISK to make a total investment of 20Bil for 40 Bonds.
Just need to know who and when to send the isk.
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Mr Bussy
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:49:00 -
[49]
Reserving 20 bonds (for 10 Billion). Thx
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Taigatoo
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:07:00 -
[50]
Reserving 4 bonds (2B ISK), please. Thanks.
-T |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:59:00 -
[51]
My pleasure, Taigatoo. And with your reservation, the bond is now 50% filled. :) We are on target.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.22 21:19:00 -
[52]
Originally by: DrefsabZN Just need to know who and when to send the isk.
Sorry, I missed that. Money should be sent to Grendell once the bond is filled. When the time is ready, I will post in this thread and send each investor an eve mail.
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Darth Raxis
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:20:00 -
[53]
I would like to reserve 1 bond for 500 mil please.
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War chylde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.23 03:39:00 -
[54]
1 (one) bond please @ .5 billion.
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Murixo
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.23 19:37:00 -
[55]
I hold 290 shares currently, which I make out to be 13.6b-ish. I'd like to reserve 10b in the takeover and have the remainder paid out. Thanks.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.23 22:12:00 -
[56]
Reserving 2B worth of bonds.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.01.23 22:27:00 -
[57]
Hi Varo,
could I please reserver 1bn ISK of bonds (2 bonds).
Thanks! [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.25 11:39:00 -
[58]
Confirming I have agreed to assist Varo with financial reporting and will be preparing monthly accounts for investor information.
Good luck with the acquisition Varo.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.01.25 12:52:00 -
[59]
Reserving 1.0bil worth of bonds. |

Xanthar Rex
Noir.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 14:27:00 -
[60]
Hi Varo, I'd like to double my reservation to 4bil, thanks.
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Mikael Genexi
Gallente Product Number 3
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Posted - 2010.01.25 19:23:00 -
[61]
Reserving 1B
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Slavemaster
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Posted - 2010.01.25 19:52:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Slavemaster on 25/01/2010 19:55:28 2 bonds please; 1B
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.25 20:25:00 -
[63]
Edited by: flakeys on 25/01/2010 20:26:58 reserving 34 bille wich makes 68 shares
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.01.25 23:41:00 -
[64]
Hi Varo,
I would like to purchase an additional 3 bonds, increasing my investment from 1bn to 2.5bn.
Thanks! [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

Phoebe Halliwel
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Posted - 2010.01.26 02:18:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Magnu Stormhawk Confirming I have agreed to assist Varo with financial reporting and will be preparing monthly accounts for investor information. Good luck with the acquisition Varo.
Confirming I've agreed to audit the accounts / the operation on a quarterly basis as requested by Varo.
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Trader Hansen
Scord Resources I Like Ponies Club
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Posted - 2010.01.26 06:41:00 -
[66]
Hmmm... Reserving 10bil (20 bonds)
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Fecilcia
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Posted - 2010.01.26 07:48:00 -
[67]
Hi, I would like to invest 6 bil for a total of 12 shares
thank you
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Cind Moltarr
Glowing Goat The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.26 08:04:00 -
[68]
Reserving 1B please.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:37:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Transval 1 bil for 2 shares reserved for me please
Eve mail me when payment due.
Cheers!
Increase my reservation to 2 bil if possible please Varo for a total of 4 shares.
Cheers!
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.26 13:18:00 -
[70]
I would allow (encourage) 10% or so over-reservation to account for dropped ones. A week is a long time in internet spaceships investing.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.26 13:44:00 -
[71]
Originally by: SetrakDark I would allow (encourage) 10% or so over-reservation to account for dropped ones. A week is a long time in internet spaceships investing.
I would be willing to give up the 3 bil I have in the secured part of this if extra reservations come in. Alternatively, if things come up short I'm happy to go in another 2 bil.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.26 13:58:00 -
[72]
Originally by: SetrakDark I would allow (encourage) 10% or so over-reservation to account for dropped ones. A week is a long time in internet spaceships investing.
Accepted. I¦ll edit the reservations post to include a standby list for up to 15B.
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Darth Raxis
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Posted - 2010.01.26 23:13:00 -
[73]
I would like to reserve for 500 mil pls.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 02:06:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Darth Raxis Edited by: Darth Raxis on 26/01/2010 23:23:37 I would like to reserve for another 500 mil pls.
Edited because I forgot to say another, this will be a total of 1 bil invested if another 500 is available.
Yes it is, Darth. Your reservation has been upped to 1B.
That makes 147.5B reserved, and 2.5B available.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.27 05:04:00 -
[75]
Reserving remaining 2.5B
I will also fill your standby list if anyone will choose not to participate up to the total amount of 15B
Let the games begin.
Let me know in eve-mail when I should send the payment.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 05:21:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Mila Mone Reserving remaining 2.5B
I will also fill your standby list if anyone will choose not to participate up to the total amount of 15B
Let the games begin.
Let me know in eve-mail when I should send the payment.
Thank you very much, Mila!
Confirming that both the bond and the standby list have been filled.
I¦ll post transfer details shortly and eve mail all investors.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 05:40:00 -
[77]
Could all investors please transfer money to Grendell.
Please write "One Stop Bond" in the Reasons box when you make the payment.
Finally, could you post here confirming ISK has been sent.
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RJ Nobel
Nobel Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.01.27 05:42:00 -
[78]
Well, I had my doubts that this would fill in the relatively short time period alloted, so congratulations to Varo are in order. MD has a never-ending supply of ISK - it just takes a stiff upper lip to get your share of it. 
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.27 05:46:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Mila Mone I will also fill your standby list if anyone will choose not to participate up to the total amount of 15B
Originally by: RAW23 I would be willing to give up the 3 bil I have in the secured part of this if extra reservations come in.
I suggest getting in touch with the raw dog to grab his excess investment.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.27 06:09:00 -
[80]
Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: Mila Mone I will also fill your standby list if anyone will choose not to participate up to the total amount of 15B
Originally by: RAW23 I would be willing to give up the 3 bil I have in the secured part of this if extra reservations come in.
I suggest getting in touch with the raw dog to grab his excess investment.
I've missed that post, thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Raw if you wish to go ahead and throw that 3B my way I don't have any problem with that.
Cheers |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 06:10:00 -
[81]
Originally by: RJ Nobel Well, I had my doubts that this would fill in the relatively short time period alloted, so congratulations to Varo are in order. MD has a never-ending supply of ISK - it just takes a stiff upper lip to get your share of it. 
Thanks, RJ. It¦s been an interesting experience. Yes, that¦s an English under statement. :)
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.01.27 07:06:00 -
[82]
Confirming 1.0 bil has been transferred to Grendell. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.27 07:39:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Grendell on 27/01/2010 07:39:28 Reserved for confirmations.
Sturmwolke - 1b
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Trader Hansen
Scord Resources I Like Ponies Club
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Posted - 2010.01.27 08:15:00 -
[84]
10b transferred to Grendell
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.27 09:22:00 -
[85]
Will send my 5 bil tonight.
I would like to join the stand by list put me in for 5 bil "10 more bonds"
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.27 09:33:00 -
[86]
2 bil sent -- | Capital |

RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.27 10:12:00 -
[87]
25 bil sent.
Mila - I'm happy to cede my 3 bil to you. Enjoy!
Varo - Stick me at the bottom of the reserve list in case of emergency. Doubt it will come to that though .
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Xanthar Rex
Noir.
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Posted - 2010.01.27 10:36:00 -
[88]
4bil transferred
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.27 12:38:00 -
[89]
Originally by: flakeys Edited by: flakeys on 25/01/2010 20:26:58 reserving 34 bille wich makes 68 shares
34 bille send to Grendell
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Deuce Bigalo
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:00:00 -
[90]
0.5b Sent to Grendell
Good luck Varo
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:11:00 -
[91]
1,000,000,000.00 ISK sent to Grendell One Stop Bond
Mail sent in game to both Varo & Grendell as well @ time of transfer.
Want a sig made? Contact me in game. Click my sig to see samples |

Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:30:00 -
[92]
Originally by: RAW23 25 bil sent.
Mila - I'm happy to cede my 3 bil to you. Enjoy!
Varo - Stick me at the bottom of the reserve list in case of emergency. Doubt it will come to that though .
5.5B sent to Grendell
Reserve list still stands at 15B, as far as I'm concerned 3B was just thrown my way coz I have pretty hair 
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.27 13:34:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Mila Mone
Originally by: RAW23 25 bil sent.
Mila - I'm happy to cede my 3 bil to you. Enjoy!
Varo - Stick me at the bottom of the reserve list in case of emergency. Doubt it will come to that though .
5.5B sent to Grendell
Reserve list still stands at 15B, as far as I'm concerned 3B was just thrown my way coz I have pretty hair 
The hair and that beautiful facial implant.
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.01.27 14:24:00 -
[94]
1,000,000,000.00 isk sent to Grendell with subject One Stop Bond.
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Cind Moltarr
Glowing Goat The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.27 15:08:00 -
[95]
1B ISK transfered to Grendell.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.27 17:12:00 -
[96]
I'll update the confirmation list once I get back home. I am currently at work and I am unable to log into eve.
So ETA is about5 hours or so. If I think it might take longer, I will do an API pull from work.
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Josefine Eramdem
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Posted - 2010.01.27 17:25:00 -
[97]
0.5B sent to Grendell
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.27 17:39:00 -
[98]
azalea anastasia - 34b - One Stop Bond
Sorry but that is flakeys char :)
I have transfered him so azalea is my character who deals with the isk as can be verifed by most people 
Should have made my reservation under her name but used to using this character for posting.
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Phoebe Halliwel
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Posted - 2010.01.27 17:45:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Would like to reinvest current stocks, 62 @ just short of 47m per share is I think the closing valuation, which is around 2.9b.
Additional investment of 2.1b or whatever the number is to round it upto 5b.
Final One Stop share valuation is 46,954,655.21 per share, so 62 shares should be 2,911,188,623.02.
The remaining 2,088,811,376.98 has been sent to Grendell marked "One Stop Bond" with a request to transfer existing shares across.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.27 17:53:00 -
[100]
Originally by: flakeys azalea anastasia - 34b - One Stop Bond
Sorry but that is flakeys char :)
I have transfered him so azalea is my character who deals with the isk as can be verifed by most people 
Should have made my reservation under her name but used to using this character for posting.
Ok I'll edit my post to show that correctly.
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.27 18:07:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Grendell
Originally by: flakeys azalea anastasia - 34b - One Stop Bond
Sorry but that is flakeys char :)
I have transfered him so azalea is my character who deals with the isk as can be verifed by most people 
Should have made my reservation under her name but used to using this character for posting.
Ok I'll edit my post to show that correctly.
Thank you and sorry for the confusion .
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Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.27 18:17:00 -
[102]
This still up? I'd like to invest in this with one bil.
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

tehsuxOr
Poor Old Ornery nOObs
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Posted - 2010.01.27 18:27:00 -
[103]
I'd like to pass my reservation to the next person in line, I'll be selling my character and purchasing another so I'll need all the money I can get. Enjoy you luck b4st4rds!
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:09:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Grendell Edited by: Grendell on 27/01/2010 17:54:10 Total: 85b / 125b
Since you are including RAW23's 25b in the 85b, shouldn't it be: 85b / 175b or actually, once I add things up: 89.5b / 175b
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Anne Lou
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:11:00 -
[105]
1B ISK transferred to Grendell.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.27 19:37:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Grendell Edited by: Grendell on 27/01/2010 17:54:10 Total: 85b / 125b
Since you are including RAW23's 25b in the 85b, shouldn't it be: 85b / 175b or actually, once I add things up: 89.5b / 175b
Yup you're right, I'll correct that. Sorry about that, silly me has his mind on rl work lol. What am I thinking!
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 20:32:00 -
[107]
I¦ve had an eve mail from Trakinor cancelling his reservation, so there¦s another 3B there if you want it, Mila.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.27 21:01:00 -
[108]
Originally by: tehsuxOr I'd like to pass my reservation to the next person in line, I'll be selling my character and purchasing another so I'll need all the money I can get. Enjoy you luck b4st4rds!
Sorry to hear that, but good luck with your new character.
Mila, tehsuxOr¦s 1B is yours if you want it.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.01.27 21:18:00 -
[109]
2.5bn sent to Grendell [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

Krythas
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Posted - 2010.01.27 22:04:00 -
[110]
1,000,000,000ISK sent to Grendell with subject One Stop Bond
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War chylde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.27 22:12:00 -
[111]
500,000,000 isk sent to Grendell with subject One Stop Bond.
War
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.01.27 22:23:00 -
[112]
9,060,906,895.8 ISK payment sent to Grendell with subject of "One Stop Bond".
So with my 10bil bond with LoW, plus 20 shares @ 46,954,655.21 ISK each im transferring over to this that will make total value
20,000,000,000 Isk
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leona starfire
LS Trading and Production Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.27 22:33:00 -
[113]
10B isk sent
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.27 22:56:00 -
[114]
5 bil sent
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Fecilcia
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Posted - 2010.01.27 23:40:00 -
[115]
6 bil isk sent to Grendell
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.27 23:59:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Grendell on 27/01/2010 23:58:55 Confirmations.
Fecilcia 6b - One Stop Bond Sundomi Sky - 5b - One Stop Bond Leona starfire - 10b - One Stop Bond DrefsabZN - 9b - One Stop Bond War chylde - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Krythas - 1b - One Stop Bond Annabelle Horiz - 2.5b - One Stop Bond Anne Lou - 1b - One Stop Bond Phoebe Halliwel - 2,088,811,376 - One Stop Bond Josefine Eramdem - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Cind Moltarr - 1b - One Stop Bond Darth Raxis - 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone - 5.5b - One Stop Bond Taram Caldar - 1b - One Stop Bond Deuce Bigalo - 0.5b - One Stop Bond flakeys - 34b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 1b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 3b - One Stop Bond XXXX XXXXXXX - 25b - Unsecured portion from RAW23 RaTTuS - 2b - One Stop Bond Trader Hansen - 10b - One Stop Bond Sturmwolke - 1b - One Stop Bond
Total: +122.5b
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 00:30:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Varo Jan I¦ve had an eve mail from Trakinor cancelling his reservation, so there¦s another 3B there if you want it, Mila.
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: tehsuxOr I'd like to pass my reservation to the next person in line, I'll be selling my character and purchasing another so I'll need all the money I can get. Enjoy you luck b4st4rds!
Sorry to hear that, but good luck with your new character.
Mila, tehsuxOr¦s 1B is yours if you want it.
Trakinor's and tehsuxOr's reservations has been filled totalling 4B.
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Regulator6
Minmatar New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.01.28 02:12:00 -
[118]
1Bil isk sent
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Jadun
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Posted - 2010.01.28 02:12:00 -
[119]
yo ho
i still want to invest 500 mil isk into the bond. sadly i need the rest of the isk.
jadun
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Taigatoo
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Posted - 2010.01.28 03:20:00 -
[120]
2 Billion sent. "One Stop Bond"
T.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 05:54:00 -
[121]
Thanks, guys.
Just waiting on money transfers from:
Erialor Godsent ~ 1B Seline Gylen ~ 1.5B Transval ~ 2B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B Mr Bussy ~ 10B Ji Sama ~ 2B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B
On Standby Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 5B Mistyevening ~ 1B RAW23 ~ 3B
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.28 06:08:00 -
[122]
Confirmations.
Taigatoo 2b - One Stop Bond Regulator6 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone 4b - One Stop Bond Fecilcia 6b - One Stop Bond Sundomi Sky - 5b - One Stop Bond Leona starfire - 10b - One Stop Bond DrefsabZN - 9b - One Stop Bond War chylde - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Krythas - 1b - One Stop Bond Annabelle Horiz - 2.5b - One Stop Bond Anne Lou - 1b - One Stop Bond Phoebe Halliwel - 2,088,811,376 - One Stop Bond Josefine Eramdem - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Cind Moltarr - 1b - One Stop Bond Darth Raxis - 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone - 5.5b - One Stop Bond Taram Caldar - 1b - One Stop Bond Deuce Bigalo - 0.5b - One Stop Bond flakeys - 34b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 1b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 3b - One Stop Bond XXXX XXXXXXX - 25b - Unsecured portion from RAW23 RaTTuS - 2b - One Stop Bond Trader Hansen - 10b - One Stop Bond Sturmwolke - 1b - One Stop Bond
Total: +128.5b
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 06:23:00 -
[123]
The following current investors in One Stop have confirmed that shares are to be converted into bonds to the value of: Jadun ~ 0.5B Mike'P ~ 1B Murixo ~ 10B
The following current investors in One Stop have confirmed that their shares are to be converted to bonds, and they have transferred the balance owed to Grendell: Phoebe Halliwel ~ 5B DrefsabZN ~ 20B
Awaiting final confirmation from: Synseer ~ 2B
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 07:57:00 -
[124]
Ji has been in touch to say he will be transferring his 2B within a day.
I said in my opening post that Ji will be providing collateral in the form of blue chip shares valued at 25B, and that those shares will be held by a trusted third party. Ji has now confirmed that the following shares have been transferred to Bad Bobby:
17K T4U shares 5K Cosmoray bonds 3K LYII shares
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.01.28 08:49:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Varo Jan Ji has now confirmed that the following shares have been transferred to Bad Bobby:
17K T4U shares 5K Cosmoray bonds 3K LYII shares
Confirming that these shares are currently being held by one of my alts.
Congratulations on the success of your launch Varo! 
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.01.28 10:09:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Erialor Godsent on 28/01/2010 10:08:49
Originally by: Varo Jan Thanks, guys.
Just waiting on money transfers from:
Erialor Godsent ~ 1B ...
Confirming I haven't transfered any ISKs yet - home at about 17.00, will transfer then. --
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Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:04:00 -
[127]
I'd like to know if taking a part on this is still possible? might be in with 2 bils if possible.
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:23:00 -
[128]
Guys? is the one stop thing still going.. an update please.
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

Dretzle Omega
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:27:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Mistyevening Guys? is the one stop thing still going.. an update please.
Give it more than 20 minutes and you might get an answer. Not everyone is awake 24 hours a day, and even if they were, some of us have to go to the bathroom once and a while.
Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:36:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Mistyevening I'd like to know if taking a part on this is still possible? might be in with 2 bils if possible.
You¦re on the standby list for 1B. I added you after you first posted.
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Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:38:00 -
[131]
Any possibility to send me ingame mail about it.. if it's possible? Even better if the 2 bils is go.:)
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:50:00 -
[132]
Mistyevening, I¦ve sent you an Eve mail. You might want to reduce your CSPA charge. :)
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Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 16:02:00 -
[133]
replied. and set standing on 10. Solves the chat/email thing?:)
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

Mistyevening
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 17:23:00 -
[134]
I Bail. got more interesting investing options. thanks for this though.
--- "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty- |

Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.01.28 18:53:00 -
[135]
Sorry 
Forgot to pop in here and confirm that 1.000.000.000,00 ISK has been transfered  --
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:16:00 -
[136]
Thanks, Erialor.
Guys, I¦d appreciate some advice here. How long should I give people to transfer money to Grendell before I allow people on the standby list to take the reservations?
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flakeys
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:20:00 -
[137]
At least 24 hours more i would suggest.Not everyone has the ability to log in every day. Then people will have had 48 hours to transfer and checking the forums once every day when you have made a reservation on a big bond should be standard.
But in the end it is up to you.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:30:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Varo Jan Thanks, Erialor.
Guys, I¦d appreciate some advice here. How long should I give people to transfer money to Grendell before I allow people on the standby list to take the reservations?
you have posted the request on 27th 0540 morning, so I'd say up until midnight for ppl to find out plus 24 hours
which would mean up until midnight today
IMO that's more than enough for anyone who is serious about this to respond
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:35:00 -
[139]
yup id defiantly give 24 more hours that would take it to Friday night in the UK which is more than reasonable time scale, at the end of the day you snooze you loose with these kinds of things :D
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.28 20:51:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Varo Jan Edited by: Varo Jan on 28/01/2010 18:58:37 Thanks, guys.
Just waiting on money transfers from:
Seline Gylen ~ 1.5B Transval ~ 2B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B Mr Bussy ~ 10B Ji Sama ~ 2B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B
On Standby Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 5B RAW23 ~ 3B
I'm more than happy to fill remaining 17B provided all the ppl in the queque agree. This is not to enforce anything merely to assure that this project will take off one way or another.
.MM. |

RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.28 21:08:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Mila Mone
Originally by: Varo Jan Edited by: Varo Jan on 28/01/2010 18:58:37 Thanks, guys.
Just waiting on money transfers from:
Seline Gylen ~ 1.5B Transval ~ 2B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B Mr Bussy ~ 10B Ji Sama ~ 2B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B
On Standby Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 5B RAW23 ~ 3B
I'm more than happy to fill remaining 17B provided all the ppl in the queque agree. This is not to enforce anything merely to assure that this project will take off one way or another.
.MM.
I'll pay for Ji's (she can pay me back when she is back in game) as I don't think she should miss out, given her general support and provision of collateral. Anything else I'm happy to let Mila have. I'll just act as a back-stop if the total comes up short.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.28 21:12:00 -
[142]
Just an update, still sitting on roughly 130.5b.
So not missing too much, also I'm waiting on exact figures from low for the conversions. So hopefull that will happen soon.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:14:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Annabelle Horiz on 28/01/2010 22:15:28
Originally by: Varo Jan Thanks, Erialor.
Guys, I¦d appreciate some advice here. How long should I give people to transfer money to Grendell before I allow people on the standby list to take the reservations?
Might be worth sending an additional evemail to them? Don't think you will end up short however with the backing you have been given. I'd also cover the remainder if that was the difference between this going live or not. I think the standby covers the current deficit, but put me down for another 10bn on the standby list if you want extra security (tho I highly doubt it'll be needed). [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

Mikael Genexi
Gallente Product Number 3
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Posted - 2010.01.28 22:19:00 -
[144]
1B sent
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.28 23:09:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Varo Jan on 28/01/2010 23:15:14
Originally by: Mila Mone I'm more than happy to fill remaining 17B provided all the ppl in the queque agree.
Thank you very much, Mila. Ji Sama is my ex-CEO, so I¦m certain he will come through. That leaves 14B. I¦ll check with Sundomi, who is next on the reservations list after you.
Originally by: RAW23 I'll pay for Ji's
Ji had an RL emergency, but he emailed me to say he would be sending his contribution. Nevertheless, in case he can¦t do it in time, I¦ll take you up on that offer. Thankee, sir.
Originally by: Annabelle Horiz Might be worth sending an additional evemail to them? Don't think you will end up short however with the backing you have been given. I'd also cover the remainder if that was the difference between this going live or not. I think the standby covers the current deficit, but put me down for another 10bn on the standby list if you want extra security (tho I highly doubt it'll be needed).
I sent second eve mails to some people yesterday, and I¦ve now sent an eve mail to all. Thank you very much for your standby offer!
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:07:00 -
[146]
Just an update were at about 134b+
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Nadia Andriani
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:15:00 -
[147]
500,000,000 isk sent by alt Patri Andari.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.29 00:21:00 -
[148]
Confirmations.
Patri Andari 0.5b - One Stop Bond Mikael Genexi 1b - One Stop Bond Kara Roideater 2b - One Stop Bond Erialor Godsent 1b - One Stop Bond Taigatoo 2b - One Stop Bond Regulator6 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone 4b - One Stop Bond Fecilcia 6b - One Stop Bond Sundomi Sky - 5b - One Stop Bond Leona starfire - 10b - One Stop Bond DrefsabZN - 9b - One Stop Bond War chylde - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Krythas - 1b - One Stop Bond Annabelle Horiz - 2.5b - One Stop Bond Anne Lou - 1b - One Stop Bond Phoebe Halliwel - 2,088,811,376 - One Stop Bond Josefine Eramdem - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Cind Moltarr - 1b - One Stop Bond Darth Raxis - 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone - 5.5b - One Stop Bond Taram Caldar - 1b - One Stop Bond Deuce Bigalo - 0.5b - One Stop Bond flakeys - 34b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 1b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 3b - One Stop Bond XXXX XXXXXXX - 25b - Unsecured portion from RAW23 RaTTuS - 2b - One Stop Bond Trader Hansen - 10b - One Stop Bond Sturmwolke - 1b - One Stop Bond
Total: +134b
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:24:00 -
[149]
Hi Varo!
Very sorry for the delay in transfer, had a few problems accessing Eve over the past day or so.
2 bil for 4 shares sent to Grendell a few minutes ago.
Cheers!
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:22:00 -
[150]
Sorry for the delay, 2B ISK send to Grendell @ One Stop Bond
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 09:24:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 29/01/2010 09:26:55
Originally by: Mila Mone
Originally by: Varo Jan Edited by: Varo Jan on 28/01/2010 18:58:37 Thanks, guys.
Just waiting on money transfers from:
Seline Gylen ~ 1.5B Transval ~ 2B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B Mr Bussy ~ 10B Ji Sama ~ 2B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B
On Standby Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 5B RAW23 ~ 3B
I'm more than happy to fill remaining 17B provided all the ppl in the queque agree. This is not to enforce anything merely to assure that this project will take off one way or another.
.MM.
I want MOAR! 
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.29 12:03:00 -
[152]
I think I¦ve given fair notice to all subscribers, so it is time to move on. As of now, the following people have not sent cash to Grendell: Seline Gylen ~ 1.5B Mr Bussy ~ 10B
So, in order of precedence, those reservations may now be taken up by: Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 0.5B If you guys want to split it up between you in some other fashion, that¦s fine by me.
Synseer, who was first to make a reservation, and is an existing investor in One Stop, has not sent a final confirmation. Nevertheless, I am going to assume that he¦s still willing to proceed. So his 2B should be adjusted against existing holdings in One Stop.
Grendell, it looks like RAW23 sent you 2B on behalf of Ji and Ji has now paid, so that money needs returning to RAW23.
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:29:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Varo Jan
So, in order of precedence, those reservations may now be taken up by: Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 0.5B If you guys want to split it up between you in some other fashion, that¦s fine by me.
Mila what do you think? I would like to take some more but if you want em its cool :]
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:58:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Sundomi Sky
Originally by: Varo Jan
So, in order of precedence, those reservations may now be taken up by: Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 0.5B If you guys want to split it up between you in some other fashion, that¦s fine by me.
Mila what do you think? I would like to take some more but if you want em its cool :]
10.5B sent to Grendell
Sundomi - I'll leave you 0.5B from my portion, adding up your additional contribution to 1B, just enough so you can't say I'm a heartless beeotch 
.MM.
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:05:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 29/01/2010 14:05:27
Originally by: Mila Mone
Originally by: Sundomi Sky
Originally by: Varo Jan
So, in order of precedence, those reservations may now be taken up by: Mila Mone ~ 11B Sundomi Sky ~ 0.5B If you guys want to split it up between you in some other fashion, that¦s fine by me.
Mila what do you think? I would like to take some more but if you want em its cool :]
10.5B sent to Grendell
Sundomi - I'll leave you 0.5B from my portion, adding up your additional contribution to 1B, just enough so you can't say I'm a heartless beeotch 
.MM.
haha thats fair :] thanks
1bil sent to Grendel
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:34:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Erialor Godsent on 29/01/2010 14:34:17
Originally by: Sundomi Sky 1bil sent to Grendel
I hope not - unless you had dealings with him, too ofc.  --
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:41:00 -
[157]
Yay! We¦re there!
Secured Bond Holders
Current Investors in One Stop DrefsabZN ~ 20B Jadun ~ 0.5B Mike'P ~ 1B Murixo ~ 10B Phoebe Halliwel ~ 5B Synseer ~ 2B
Total 38.5B
New Investors Annabelle Horiz ~ 2.5B Anne Lou ~ 1B Cind Moltarr ~ 1B Darth Raxis ~ 1B Deuce Bigalo ~ 0.5B Erialor Godsent ~ 1B Fecilcia ~ 6B flakeys ~ 34B Ji Sama ~ 2B Josefine Eramdem ~ 0.5B Krythas ~ 1B leona starfire ~ 10B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B Mila Mone ~ 20B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B RaTTuS ~ 2B Regulator6 ~ 1B Sturmwolke ~ 1B Sundomi Sky ~ 6B Taigatoo ~ 2B Taram Caldar ~ 1B Trader Hansen ~ 10B Transval ~ 2B War chylde ~ 0.5B Xanthar Rex ~ 4B
Total 111.5B
Grand Total, Secured Bond: 150B
Unsecured Bond - RAW23: 25B
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:19:00 -
[158]
Edited by: DrefsabZN on 29/01/2010 15:22:59 Congratulation Varo on getting everything lined up though its hard to see how it wouldn't work out with the financial backing you had on offer :)
I take it you will be having the IPO officially running from the 1st of next month to make things simple, if so then I take it we should expect the first bond payments to be coming back on the 1st of march (not that I mind when they are done just wondering).
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:05:00 -
[159]
We have a lift off! Well done Varo. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:56:00 -
[160]
Varo I`ll give a confirmation here when I get back home from work. Please contact Low and get the ball rolling. I will contact him and give him confirmation that funds have been raised.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:46:00 -
[161]
  
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.29 20:56:00 -
[162]
I never doubted you would launch, I am proud of you my son. May the force be with you.
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:39:00 -
[163]
GRATZ VARO!
and yah i sent the 1bil to Grendell not Grendel ^^
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.01.29 23:34:00 -
[164]
Confirmations.
Sundomi Sky 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone 10.5b - One Stop Bond Ji Sama 2b - One Stop Bond Transval 2b - One Stop Bond Patri Andari 0.5b - One Stop Bond Mikael Genexi 1b - One Stop Bond Kara Roideater 2b - One Stop Bond Erialor Godsent 1b - One Stop Bond Taigatoo 2b - One Stop Bond Regulator6 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone 4b - One Stop Bond Fecilcia 6b - One Stop Bond Sundomi Sky - 5b - One Stop Bond Leona starfire - 10b - One Stop Bond DrefsabZN - 9b - One Stop Bond War chylde - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Krythas - 1b - One Stop Bond Annabelle Horiz - 2.5b - One Stop Bond Anne Lou - 1b - One Stop Bond Phoebe Halliwel - 2,088,811,376 - One Stop Bond Josefine Eramdem - 0.5b - One Stop Bond Cind Moltarr - 1b - One Stop Bond Darth Raxis - 1b - One Stop Bond Mila Mone - 5.5b - One Stop Bond Taram Caldar - 1b - One Stop Bond Deuce Bigalo - 0.5b - One Stop Bond flakeys - 34b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 1b - One Stop Bond Xanthar Rex - 3b - One Stop Bond XXXX XXXXXXX - 25b - Unsecured portion from RAW23 RaTTuS - 2b - One Stop Bond Trader Hansen - 10b - One Stop Bond Sturmwolke - 1b - One Stop Bond
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.01.30 11:30:00 -
[165]
Thank you all for your good wishes. :)
LoW and I hope to complete the transfer of assets and handover this weekend.
Originally by: DrefsabZN I take it you will be having the IPO officially running from the 1st of next month to make things simple, if so then I take it we should expect the first bond payments to be coming back on the 1st of march.
Interest payments will be made at the end of February.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari One Stop Mining Shop One Stop Research
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Posted - 2010.01.31 19:07:00 -
[166]
I am prepping the last of the items for transfer now. Soona s Varo logs back on everything should be completed. All current business contracts have been notified of the new owner. Expect to close transfer by COB today.
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SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:25:00 -
[167]
Confirming I received 333 shares in One Stop Mining Shop.
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LadyOfWrath
Caldari One Stop Mining Shop One Stop Research
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Posted - 2010.01.31 23:23:00 -
[168]
All assets have been transferred at this time. ISK has been transferred to me for final purchases. Will be issuing final payouts to investors over the next hour.
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Drab Cane
Carbenadium Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.01 00:59:00 -
[169]
Received payout of 281,727,931.31 ISK for 6 shares.
Roughly 46,954,655.22 ISK / share.
Thank you, LoW, for doing such an excellent job with the One-Stop businesses. Best wishes to you in all your in-game and RL ventures.
Varo Jan, best of luck to you as you take over the businesses.
-----------------------------------------------
- Who Dares, Wins
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Graic Valente
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Posted - 2010.02.01 01:10:00 -
[170]
Best of luck to all concerned!
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.02.01 01:54:00 -
[171]
Confirming the transfer went smoothly, and I will be remaining CEO and majority shareholder until investors are paid.
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.01 13:42:00 -
[172]
2 questions; What do I do if I need to sell my bonds? I assume Grendell handles it, do I just post here?
Also, Varo, When are you getting a cool sig like LoW's?
Thank you
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.01 14:00:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Darth Raxis What do I do if I need to sell my bonds? I assume Grendell handles it, do I just post here?
Yes, you¦re right, Darth. Quoting my opening post: You are free to trade these bonds, but all trades must be done through Grendell. All trades must be confirmed in this thread in order to ensure payment of interest to the right holder of the bonds.
Quote: Also, Varo, When are you getting a cool sig like LoW's?
*g* Have to confess I never look at sigs, most are naff and take up too much space. But yeah, LoW¦s is cool. Tell you what, I¦ll think about getting one when I¦ve repaid the bond. For now I¦m looking at ways to save money, not spend it.
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.01 16:18:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Darth Raxis What do I do if I need to sell my bonds? I assume Grendell handles it, do I just post here?
Yes, you¦re right, Darth. Quoting my opening post: You are free to trade these bonds, but all trades must be done through Grendell. All trades must be confirmed in this thread in order to ensure payment of interest to the right holder of the bonds.
Quote: Also, Varo, When are you getting a cool sig like LoW's?
*g* Have to confess I never look at sigs, most are naff and take up too much space. But yeah, LoW¦s is cool. Tell you what, I¦ll think about getting one when I¦ve repaid the bond. For now I¦m looking at ways to save money, not spend it.
Well, my entire investment was based on you having a decent sig. As this does not look like it will happen any time soon, I guess I need to sell my 2 bonds. Or maybe I just need the money for something else that came up. Anyway, if someone is interested in my 2 bonds post here or contact me in game tonight.
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.02.01 16:22:00 -
[175]
Edited by: Erialor Godsent on 01/02/2010 16:22:55
Originally by: Darth Raxis Well, my entire investment was based on you having a decent sig. As this does not look like it will happen any time soon, I guess I need to sell my 2 bonds. Or maybe I just need the money for something else that came up. Anyway, if someone is interested in my 2 bonds post here or contact me in game tonight.
If payment can wait till the weekend I'm very interested in buying both bonds (1bill) - I only have about 500mill in liquid ISK atm. so if you're looking for a transfer right now I could only buy a single bond.
I'd still be interested in one bond (500mill) if you have a buyer for the other half before the weekend ;) --
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.01 16:53:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Erialor Godsent Edited by: Erialor Godsent on 01/02/2010 16:22:55
Originally by: Darth Raxis Well, my entire investment was based on you having a decent sig. As this does not look like it will happen any time soon, I guess I need to sell my 2 bonds. Or maybe I just need the money for something else that came up. Anyway, if someone is interested in my 2 bonds post here or contact me in game tonight.
If payment can wait till the weekend I'm very interested in buying both bonds (1bill) - I only have about 500mill in liquid ISK atm. so if you're looking for a transfer right now I could only buy a single bond.
I'd still be interested in one bond (500mill) if you have a buyer for the other half before the weekend ;)
No worries, not sure how Grendell wants to do it, but we can move forward with the purchase of one now. I would like to sell the other as soon as possible, but if no buyer before the weekend then of course it is yours as well.
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.02.01 17:06:00 -
[177]
EVE-mailed Grendell pointing him to the thread :)
I'd be happy to buy one now - and should no other buyer turn up before the weekend (sunday - preferably) - I'd be happy to buy the other bond too --
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.01 17:31:00 -
[178]
Grendell, let me know if you need an in game response from me, but for now I am confirming an authorization to sell 1 bond for 500 mil to Erialor Godsent.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.02.01 17:40:00 -
[179]
I will take the other one, isk can be transferred 1am GMT, or sooner if you will insist.
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.01 18:32:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Mila Mone I will take the other one, isk can be transferred 1am GMT, or sooner if you will insist.
Sounds good to me, and 1am gmt is fine. Both bonds are sold pending Grendell.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.02.01 20:03:00 -
[181]
Hello gents, the buyers should send me the isk for the purchase with the reason "One Stop Transfer". The isk will then be forwarded to the seller once the Bond owner list is updated and I have made contact with Varo.
Grendell
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.02.01 21:22:00 -
[182]
500.000.000,00 ISK tranfered - One Stop Transfer --
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.02.02 00:38:00 -
[183]
500mill sent to Grendell |

Nottan Alty
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Posted - 2010.02.02 01:17:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Nottan Alty on 02/02/2010 01:17:38
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.02 02:06:00 -
[185]
List update to reflect Darth¦s sale.
Secured Bond Holders Annabelle Horiz ~ 2.5B Anne Lou ~ 1B Cind Moltarr ~ 1B Deuce Bigalo ~ 0.5B DrefsabZN ~ 20B Erialor Godsent ~ 1.5B Fecilcia ~ 6B flakeys ~ 34B Jadun ~ 0.5B Ji Sama ~ 2B Josefine Eramdem ~ 0.5B Krythas ~ 1B leona starfire ~ 10B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B Mike'P ~ 1B Mila Mone ~ 20.5B Murixo ~ 10B Patri Andari ~ 0.5B Phoebe Halliwel ~ 5B RaTTuS ~ 2B Regulator6 ~ 1B Sturmwolke ~ 1B Sundomi Sky ~ 6B Taigatoo ~ 2B Taram Caldar ~ 1B Trader Hansen ~ 10B Transval ~ 2B Synseer ~ 2B War chylde ~ 0.5B Xanthar Rex ~ 4B
Total Secured Bond: 150B
Unsecured Bond - RAW23: 25B
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.02 02:53:00 -
[186]
Have not received the isk yet. Will post when I do.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.02.02 04:03:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Darth Raxis Have not received the isk yet. Will post when I do.
*Blink Blink* You have isk!
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Darth Raxis
Gallente 2Phat 2Phail
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Posted - 2010.02.02 11:22:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Grendell
Originally by: Darth Raxis Have not received the isk yet. Will post when I do.
*Blink Blink* You have isk!
Thank you Grendell! Isk received.
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.02.02 11:22:00 -
[189]
Damnit i always check the forums to late to miss these deals :[ I want MOAR shares ;p
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Regulator6
Minmatar New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.02.02 23:23:00 -
[190]
I too am interested in Moar shares... so if anyone wants to sell some eve mail me in game.
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Sundomi Sky
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services Primary.
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Posted - 2010.02.05 13:25:00 -
[191]
Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 05/02/2010 13:26:12 5 bil sent to Grendell
Buying unsecure bonds from Raw23
Edit: If anyone is wanting to sell their bonds contact me 
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.05 13:50:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Sundomi Sky Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 05/02/2010 13:26:12 5 bil sent to Grendell
Buying unsecure bonds from Raw23
Edit: If anyone is wanting to sell their bonds contact me 
Grendell - Please transfer 5 bil of my bonds to Sundomi.
Many thanks.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.02.05 14:15:00 -
[193]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Sundomi Sky Edited by: Sundomi Sky on 05/02/2010 13:26:12 5 bil sent to Grendell
Buying unsecure bonds from Raw23
Edit: If anyone is wanting to sell their bonds contact me 
Grendell - Please transfer 5 bil of my bonds to Sundomi.
Many thanks.
All done, spoke to Varo he will update the owner list.
Grendell
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.05 14:48:00 -
[194]
Post 185 updated to reflect transfer of 5B unsecured from RAW23 to Sundomi Sky.
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Phoebe Halliwel
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:18:00 -
[195]
Varo - I am passing my 5b in bonds to Bad Bobby to be held as collateral for a loan. Please could you update your records to show the transfer & ensure all dividends are paid to him. We'll post once the agreement is complete to transfer the bonds back. Hope this is acceptable.
Thanks
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:20:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Varo - I am passing my 5b in bonds to Bad Bobby to be held as collateral for a loan. Please could you update your records to show the transfer & ensure all dividends are paid to him. We'll post once the agreement is complete to transfer the bonds back. Hope this is acceptable.
Thanks
Confirming this. Send me the divs and I'll deduct them from Phoebe's interest payments.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:25:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Varo - I am passing my 5b in bonds to Bad Bobby to be held as collateral for a loan. Please could you update your records to show the transfer & ensure all dividends are paid to him. We'll post once the agreement is complete to transfer the bonds back. Hope this is acceptable.
Thanks
Confirming this. Send me the divs and I'll deduct them from Phoebe's interest payments.
My records have been updated to reflect this. Interest payments will be made to Bad Bobby, until both Phoebe and BB advise me otherwise.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.14 16:40:00 -
[198]
Post 185 updated to reflect this:
I confirm that in the event of a default, scam, or hit by a bus scenario, ownership of One Stop Buyout unsecured bonds will be transferred from RAW23 to the investors in "RAW Materials Insurance Fraud" bonds on an ISK for ISK basis.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.14 17:15:00 -
[199]
Thanks Varo.
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Taram Caldar
Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.19 05:55:00 -
[200]
Athena Tarsis has agreed to purchase my 2 bonds (1bil total)
Market Alerts Mailing List
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.02.19 06:16:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Athena Tarsis on 19/02/2010 06:29:17 As per our discussion in another thread, I am posting my intent to purchase two bonds from Taram Caldar at a price of 500M each.
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.02.19 06:44:00 -
[202]
1b sent to Grendell
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Hostile Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.19 16:48:00 -
[203]
any opp left to get in to this investment? www.garia.net |

RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.19 17:00:00 -
[204]
Edited by: RAW23 on 19/02/2010 17:05:13 Edited by: RAW23 on 19/02/2010 17:04:04
Originally by: Garia666 any opp left to get in to this investment?
I have up to 5 bil of unsecured bonds I would be willing to part with if you can offer me more than their face value.
Edit - The sale would have to take place after the first interest payment comes through .
Edit 2 - @ my investors. Cash from this sale would replace the bonds being held as collateral.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.02.19 19:29:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Athena Tarsis 1b sent to Grendell
Confirmed and transfered to Taram Caldar. Varo has been mailed and will update the list shortly.
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Taram Caldar
Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.19 19:50:00 -
[206]
Isk received.
Market Alerts Mailing List
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.19 20:08:00 -
[207]
Post 185 updated to reflect the sale of 1B worth of secured bonds by Taram Caldar to Athena Tarsis.
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Sundomi Sky
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:03:00 -
[208]
when is the first interest payment due?
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:31:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Varo Jan Thank you all for your good wishes. :)
LoW and I hope to complete the transfer of assets and handover this weekend.
Originally by: DrefsabZN I take it you will be having the IPO officially running from the 1st of next month to make things simple, if so then I take it we should expect the first bond payments to be coming back on the 1st of march.
Interest payments will be made at the end of February.
Sundomi, I¦ll be making payments on 28 Feb, and on the last day of the month thereafter.
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Sundomi Sky
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.02.25 23:56:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Varo Jan Thank you all for your good wishes. :)
LoW and I hope to complete the transfer of assets and handover this weekend.
Originally by: DrefsabZN I take it you will be having the IPO officially running from the 1st of next month to make things simple, if so then I take it we should expect the first bond payments to be coming back on the 1st of march.
Interest payments will be made at the end of February.
Sundomi, I¦ll be making payments on 28 Feb, and on the last day of the month thereafter.
ah ok cool thanks
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.28 07:37:00 -
[211]
The first monthly interest payments on the secured and unsecured bonds have been made.
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2010.02.28 07:43:00 -
[212]
Confirming receipt - thanks... --
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.28 08:39:00 -
[213]
Thx for your contribution to my newly found isksink 
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.02.28 10:10:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Phoebe Halliwel Varo - I am passing my 5b in bonds to Bad Bobby to be held as collateral for a loan. Please could you update your records to show the transfer & ensure all dividends are paid to him. We'll post once the agreement is complete to transfer the bonds back. Hope this is acceptable.
Thanks
Confirming this. Send me these divs and I'll deduct them from Phoebe's interest payments.
Sorry to mess you around, but may I request that the divs are sent to Mornington Crescent rather than Bad Bobby, that way I've got all of Phoebe's dividends going to one wallet which simplifies administration.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.02.28 10:36:00 -
[215]
Isk received. Many thanks!
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.02.28 14:34:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Bad Bobby Sorry to mess you around, but may I request that the divs are sent to Mornington Crescent.
No problem. I¦ll amend my records. Damn, that name brings back some old memories. :)
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Taigatoo
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Posted - 2010.02.28 16:41:00 -
[217]
ISK received, thank you.
-T.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.02.28 17:15:00 -
[218]
Isk received. Many thanks, .MM.
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Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.02.28 17:30:00 -
[219]
WTS 20.5B worth of the secured portion of the bond
- first come first served - post here how much you want - remember trades are done through Grendell so don't send any isk to me - only send isk after I will give you go ahead
- I'm reserving 5B worth of the bonds for Sundomi Sky - you have 24 hrs for snapping them up, otherwise I will release them for public, so no excuses!!!
.MM.
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Commercant Epique
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Posted - 2010.02.28 19:46:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Commercant Epique on 28/02/2010 19:51:01 Edit: I do believe I was thinking of the Ship Rep shares my apologies!
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.03.01 01:47:00 -
[221]
Confirming receipt.
Also MM I posted in your other thread reserving 1.5 billion in your offered bonds.
Thanks
Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan |

Mila Mone
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Posted - 2010.03.01 01:55:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Patri Andari Confirming receipt.
Also MM I posted in your other thread reserving 1.5 billion in your offered bonds.
Thanks
please send iskies to Grendell
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.01 02:29:00 -
[223]
1b isk receive from "Trayjan" and Transfered to "Mila Mone"
Varo has been mailed.
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.03.01 03:26:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Patri Andari on 01/03/2010 03:27:07 1.5 Billion isk sent to Grendell to purchase 3 bonds offered by Mila Mone.
edit: correction of amount Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.01 03:35:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Patri Andari Edited by: Patri Andari on 01/03/2010 03:27:07 1.5 Billion isk sent to Grendell to purchase 3 bonds offered by Mila Mone.
edit: correction of amount
1.5b isk receive from "Patari Andari" and Transfered to "Mila Mone"
Varo has been mailed.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.01 03:50:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Varo Jan The first monthly interest payments on the secured and unsecured bonds have been made.
Confirming receipt of monthly payment.
Nice one Varo
Cheers!
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 08:42:00 -
[227]
I have send 4 bille to grendell for 8 shares of mila mone.
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Trader Hansen
Scord Resources I Like Ponies Club
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Posted - 2010.03.01 09:19:00 -
[228]
Request and payment made for 5 bil of Mila Mone shares.
F**king CCP remove the F**king 5 minute post limit. FFS.
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Taram Caldar
Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.01 13:15:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Trader Hansen Request and payment made for 5 bil of Mila Mone shares.
F**king CCP remove the F**king 5 minute post limit. FFS.
Logout - Login - Timer resets.
Enjoy
Market Alerts Mailing List
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.01 15:57:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Trader Hansen Request and payment made for 5 bil of Mila Mone shares.
Transfer will be complete when I get home from work.
Originally by: flakeys I have send 4 bille to grendell for 8 shares of mila mone.
Transfer will be complete when I get home from work.
Grendell
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.03.01 16:59:00 -
[231]
Confirming receipt of dividend.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.03 02:23:00 -
[232]
Secured Bond Holders Annabelle Horiz ~ 2.5B Anne Lou ~ 1B Athena Tarsis ~ 1B Cind Moltarr ~ 1B Deuce Bigalo ~ 0.5B DrefsabZN ~ 20B Erialor Godsent ~ 1.5B Fecilcia ~ 10B flakeys ~ 38B Jadun ~ 0.5B Ji Sama ~ 2B Josefine Eramdem ~ 0.5B Krythas ~ 1B leona starfire ~ 10B Mikael Genexi ~ 1B Mike'P ~ 1B Murixo ~ 10B Patri Andari ~ 2B Phoebe Halliwel ~ 5B - Held as collateral for a loan by Bad Bobby. Interest payments to be made to BB¦s character, Mornington Crescent. RaTTuS ~ 2B Regulator6 ~ 1B Ren Mazuo ~ 3B Shionomo ~ 1B Sturmwolke ~ 1B Sundomi Sky ~ 6B Synseer ~ 2B Taigatoo ~ 2B Trader Hansen ~ 15B Transval ~ 2B Trayjan ~ 1B War chylde ~ 0.5B Wieting Foyu ~ 1B Xanthar Rex ~ 4B
Total Secured Bond: 150B
Unsecured Bond RAW23 ~ 20B - In the event of a default, scam, or hit by a bus scenario, ownership of these bonds will be transferred to the investors in "RAW Materials Insurance Fraud" bonds on an ISK for ISK basis. Krythas is the effective owner of 1B of these bonds. Final transfer to be effected when the RAW Materials Insurance Fraud bond closes.
Sundomi Sky ~ 5B
Total Unsecured Bond: 25B
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Sundomi Sky
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.03.06 08:39:00 -
[233]
I have not received my dividend. 
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flakeys
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.06 08:59:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Sundomi Sky I have not received my dividend. 
Send a mail to grendell/varo about it and be precise if it is about both your investments or only the secured/unsecured one.I'm sure it'll be corrected asap .
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.06 09:06:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Sundomi Sky I have not received my dividend. 
Sundomi, I just checked One Stop Mining corporate account transfers and both bond interest payments were made to you on 28/02/10 at 07:07 and 07:08. Could you recheck your wallet, please?
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Sundomi Sky
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.03.06 14:31:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Sundomi Sky I have not received my dividend. 
Sundomi, I just checked One Stop Mining corporate account transfers and both bond interest payments were made to you on 28/02/10 at 07:07 and 07:08. Could you recheck your wallet, please?
Ah there they are my apologies  I didn't know they would show up as "Corporation Account Withdraw" i was looking for "Player Donation"
Sorry about that
Confirming my dividend was paid
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:17:00 -
[237]
Edited by: RAW23 on 06/03/2010 22:17:11 11.5 bil of my unsecured bonds sold to Annabelle Horiz.
Grendell - please hold on to the cash until next Saturday. I will send you cookies as a token of my appreciation for your admin work.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:31:00 -
[238]
No wonder I couldn't find the thread, you'd bumped it!
Grendell - confirming purchase of 11.5bn ISK of One Stop shares from RAW23. I have sent the cash to you, awaiting transfer of the bonds next week as RAW says. [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.06 23:26:00 -
[239]
ok and ok.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:51:00 -
[240]
Grendell - all investors who opted to cash out from my secured bond have now received their investments. All remaining investors have explicitly opted to roll their investments over into my new unsecured bond so please feel free to complete the transfer of the bonds and isk you are holding at your convenience. If you would like my api details to confirm that the payments have all been made that can certainly be done and may be quicker than waiting for them all to post their confirmations (I suspect some may not follow the forums as devotedly as others).
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War chylde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:58:00 -
[241]
I am selling my one share to Trayjan. As soon as Grendell is available that is.
War
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Trayjan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.13 01:01:00 -
[242]
500M sent to Grendell. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.13 02:58:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Trayjan 500M sent to Grendell.
Will be processed shortly.
Originally by: RAW23 Grendell - all investors who opted to cash out from my secured bond have now received their investments. All remaining investors have explicitly opted to roll their investments over into my new unsecured bond so please feel free to complete the transfer of the bonds and isk you are holding at your convenience. If you would like my api details to confirm that the payments have all been made that can certainly be done and may be quicker than waiting for them all to post their confirmations (I suspect some may not follow the forums as devotedly as others).
Not to sound like a stiff but, if you could mail me your api info it would be greatly appreciated, as well as a link to the thread.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.03.13 03:31:00 -
[244]
Originally by: War chylde I am selling my one share to Trayjan. As soon as Grendell is available that is.
War
Done. Varo plz update.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.14 03:23:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Grendell
Not to sound like a stiff but, if you could mail me your api info it would be greatly appreciated, as well as a link to the thread.
All sent.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.14 19:14:00 -
[246]
Confirming isk received for the transfer of bonds to Annabelle Horiz. Thank you!
Also confirming, as requested, that 1 bil of bonds should also be transferred to Krythas.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.15 01:31:00 -
[247]
Investor list for secured and unsecured bonds updated in post 232.
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Krythas
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Posted - 2010.03.16 12:47:00 -
[248]
Originally by: RAW23 Confirming isk received for the transfer of bonds to Annabelle Horiz. Thank you!
Also confirming, as requested, that 1 bil of bonds should also be transferred to Krythas.
Thanks.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.01 00:03:00 -
[249]
March interest payments on the secured and unsecured bonds have been made.
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Taigatoo
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Posted - 2010.04.01 01:24:00 -
[250]
ISK received, thank you.
-T.
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Marcus Baltar
Savaran Zhayedan Spah
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Posted - 2010.04.01 09:27:00 -
[251]
Varo Jan, could you give an update on how this is going; (Apologies if I missed them, please could you provides links then).
Thanks. --
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.01 12:26:00 -
[252]
Unfortunately, Magnu has had to back out due to RL priorities, so I'll be preparing the accounts myself.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.01 12:42:00 -
[253]
received payment , thanks varo.
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Krythas
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Posted - 2010.04.01 21:46:00 -
[254]
payment received, thanks.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.02 02:18:00 -
[255]
Payment received,
Cheers!
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.03 17:29:00 -
[256]
A couple of announcements.
Digital Jedi, an investor in the old One Stop, has provided me with an unsecured 5% loan of twenty billion ISK. The first interest payment was made on 31st March. Total interest due at the end of each month now amounts to 8.25B.
I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:01:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Varo Jan
I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Confirming this. I need to get some rl work done in the next few months so I have decided to outsource the sales arm of my operation. I'll be paying Varo 250mil/day to sell what I produce (at the moment, about 10bil worth of goods per day) and this will mean that I can both cut my keyboard time by over 50% and spend more time getting the production lines running at maximum efficiency as POS time is more easily managed than trading time. I will also be looking to expand on this arrangement with Varo in the future as I expand production.
On another note, I'm looking to sell my remaining 7.5bil of unsecured One Stop shares at face value in order to help fund my expansion.
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Murixo
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.03 18:33:00 -
[258]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Varo Jan
I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Confirming this. I need to get some rl work done in the next few months so I have decided to outsource the sales arm of my operation. I'll be paying Varo 250mil/day to sell what I produce (at the moment, about 10bil worth of goods per day) and this will mean that I can both cut my keyboard time by over 50% and spend more time getting the production lines running at maximum efficiency as POS time is more easily managed than trading time. I will also be looking to expand on this arrangement with Varo in the future as I expand production.
On another note, I'm looking to sell my remaining 7.5bil of unsecured One Stop shares at face value in order to help fund my expansion.
I'll take the lot if you can wait until Monday?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.03 19:17:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Murixo
Originally by: RAW23
On another note, I'm looking to sell my remaining 7.5bil of unsecured One Stop shares at face value in order to help fund my expansion.
I'll take the lot if you can wait until Monday?
No probs. Send the isk through to Grendell whenever you are ready.
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Murixo
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.04 17:46:00 -
[260]
7.5b sent to Grendell for the purchase of RAW23's remaining unsecured bonds. Will be selling them again in 3/4 months, so keep your eyes open! |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.04.04 17:47:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Murixo 7.5b sent to Grendell for the purchase of RAW23's remaining unsecured bonds. Will be selling them again in 3/4 months, so keep your eyes open!
Confirmed, and transfer complete. Varo will have the list updated asap. |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.04 18:39:00 -
[262]
Investor list for secured and unsecured bonds updated in post 232.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.04 18:56:00 -
[263]
Received. Thanks.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.04.06 21:02:00 -
[264]
3b sent to Ren Mazuo for the sale of his 6 shares.
The 6 bonds will be held by....me.
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Ren Mazuo
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Posted - 2010.04.07 06:00:00 -
[265]
isk received. thank you for your business sir, looking forward on working with you in the future 
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:07:00 -
[266]
Investor list for secured and unsecured bonds updated in post 232.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Amsen Innovations
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Posted - 2010.04.07 13:07:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Varo Jan Investor list for secured and unsecured bonds updated in post 232.
Sorry, I just really like creating hyperlinks.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 09:06:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Varo Jan I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.04.10 09:27:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Ray McCormack Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.
this.
Quote: Surplus profits will be left in the business to build up a cash reserve to cover three months interest payments.
Could you give the public a quote on the current state of this cash reserve?
Currently your ability to make interest payments seems to rely on one single customer (8.25b in monthly interest obligations opposed to 8b in profits from One Stop's core business). While RAW is far too nice to let you down on this agreement even if his RL would suddenly get less busy, this is bad style and sounds - depending on the state of the above mentioned cash reserve - rather risky.
Quote: The businesses currently generate profits in excess of ten billion ISK monthly. That provides adequate cover for bond interest payments.
Maybe I did miss one of your updates - but why has the situation of the One Stop core business deteriorated so much since you took over management?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.10 09:35:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.

Can't hack it in your own threads so you have them locked and take a holiday by trying to **** on someone else's? There's the attitude we've come to know and love!
Now, since your here, any chance you'll answer some EBANK questions?
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.04.10 09:56:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.
Good deals signed with my friends and close associates has been the cornerstone of my businesses. Building good relationships and making isk for both yourself and your friends is just good practice. I don't think there is any reason to exclude RAW as a valid client for Varo.
However, I am suprised to read how low One-Stop's income was. My experience of the same type of business has shown it to be one of the highest returning endeavours available for the effort required.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 10:24:00 -
[272]
Quote:
Maybe I did miss one of your updates - but why has the situation of the One Stop core business deteriorated so much since you took over management?
Because LOW is a very, very, very good business man/woman and know how to invent new opportunities, grow them to success, tend to them till their maturity and then offload them to someone else once they grow stale.
- Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Bad Bobby
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2010.04.10 10:43:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha tend to them till their maturity and then offload them to someone else once they grow stale.
This much was obvious, I think LOW actually said this was specifically their approach with their businesses in at least one MD thread. I just assumed it was still yielding over 10% when it was sold.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 13:13:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Bad Bobby Good deals signed with my friends and close associates has been the cornerstone of my businesses. Building good relationships and making isk for both yourself and your friends is just good practice. I don't think there is any reason to exclude RAW as a valid client for Varo.
Well, let's not get crazy, of course I'm not implying that. But as it stands the business is unable to meet interest payments let alone reduce the outstanding debt, and Varo has fallen well short of the target he set himself - which leads us to question any other estimates he has set.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.10 13:29:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Bad Bobby Good deals signed with my friends and close associates has been the cornerstone of my businesses. Building good relationships and making isk for both yourself and your friends is just good practice. I don't think there is any reason to exclude RAW as a valid client for Varo.
Well, let's not get crazy, of course I'm not implying that. But as it stands the business is unable to meet interest payments let alone reduce the outstanding debt, and Varo has fallen well short of the target he set himself - which leads us to question any other estimates he has set.
I think everyone may be extrapolating a little too much from Varo's statement that he had met the 15bil/month target he had set himself for the first year. All interest payments have been met so far and all were met before Varo and I arranged our agreement, so I'm not sure where the figures claiming he is unable to meet his interest payments are coming from.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.10 13:55:00 -
[276]
Edited by: cosmoray on 10/04/2010 13:57:30 If all targets are being met and interest payments being made why has Varo taken out a 20B unsecured loan at 5%.
When can the public expect the accounts Varo promised on April 1st?
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 17:10:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.
It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.04.10 17:30:00 -
[278]
Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 10/04/2010 17:31:58
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan I will be selling a range of products on behalf of RAW23 for a fixed fee amounting to some 7B per month. As a result, I expect net profits from all activities in One Stop to exceed 15B from this month onwards - which is the first target I set myself when I took over One Stop two months ago.
Excluding this windfall from your bestest buddy, it appears you fall well short of your target as well as interest payments.
It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
If your reply is meant to say that with "net profits" you refer to profits after deduction of interest payments, much of my post above is pointless (as are the following posts by Bad Bobby & VV).
If not, I am afraid that I fail at reading comprehension, too 
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 17:45:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Quote: Surplus profits will be left in the business to build up a cash reserve to cover three months interest payments.
Could you give the public a quote on the current state of this cash reserve?
Reserves fluctuate. No doubt you are well aware that building an interest reserve will not be done overnight.
Quote: Currently your ability to make interest payments seems to rely on one single customer (8.25b in monthly interest obligations opposed to 8b in profits from One Stop's core business).
The agreement with RAW23 came into force earlier this month. It therefore follows that interest payments of 7.25B in February and 8.25B in March were not made courtesy of RAW23, wouldn't you agree?
You may have misread my earlier statement. I said I expect profits to exceed 15B, my target. I did not say they would equal 15B. Please note also that I said that income from the agreement with RAW23 would amount to "some 7B per month."
Quote: While RAW is far too nice to let you down on this agreement even if his RL would suddenly get less busy, this is bad style and sounds - depending on the state of the above mentioned cash reserve - rather risky.
Perhaps you'd like to retract that statement now?
Quote:
Quote: The businesses currently generate profits in excess of ten billion ISK monthly. That provides adequate cover for bond interest payments.
Maybe I did miss one of your updates - but why has the situation of the One Stop core business deteriorated so much since you took over management?
The situation has improved. Income from research fees is up. More corporations have joined the alliance. More kits were sold in March. Characters have received additional training, allowing them to increase their contributions to the business. Three more characters have been brought into the business. Unutilised assets have been put to work.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 18:01:00 -
[280]
Originally by: cosmoray If all targets are being met and interest payments being made why has Varo taken out a 20B unsecured loan at 5%.
Digital Jedi offered me 37B. I was tempted to borrow the lot as it would have allowed me to implement various expansion plans sooner. I chose not to, deeming it more prudent to put a lesser sum to work.
DJ did not require me to post an announcement as a precondition. I mailed him after he had transferred the money to me, and suggested it. So take the announcement as a courtesy to inform you of my total liability to members of the community.
Quote: When can the public expect the accounts Varo promised on April 1st?
The accounts are being provided as a courtesy too, unlike other bond offerings such as yours. Magnu had to withdraw, so I am producing the accounts myself. You can expect them when they have been prepared to my highly picky satisfaction.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.10 18:07:00 -
[281]
Edited by: cosmoray on 10/04/2010 18:07:48 You chose to provide public accounts. I never stated I would provide public financials. I only agreed to pay dividends (have done so since June 2008).
At present I have 40B unsecured bond. Varo has 45B unsecured and 125B secured.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 18:08:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Quote:
Maybe I did miss one of your updates - but why has the situation of the One Stop core business deteriorated so much since you took over management?
Because LOW is a very, very, very good business man/woman and know how to invent new opportunities, grow them to success, tend to them till their maturity and then offload them to someone else once they grow stale.
You are an auditor, right? Then learn not to make unsubstantiated accusations. In other words, don't jump on a bandwagon and talk out of your arse. Check your facts first. Then check again. Free advice.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 18:14:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Varo Jan It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
I see nothing to suggest I do.
The profit from the business you purchased has fallen short of meeting the required interest payments for the bond that was raised to purchase it, it has also fallen well short of the target you set yourself.
That equates to failure.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 19:23:00 -
[284]
Originally by: cosmoray You chose to provide public accounts. I never stated I would provide public financials. I only agreed to pay dividends (have done so since June 2008).
Why are you stating the obvious?
Quote: At present I have 40B unsecured bond. Varo has 45B unsecured and 125B secured.
And what's the point here? Apart from demonstrating you can't read. I have 150B outstanding in secured loans.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 20:03:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
I see nothing to suggest I do.
The profit from the business you purchased has fallen short of meeting the required interest payments for the bond that was raised to purchase it, it has also fallen well short of the target you set yourself.
That equates to failure.
Remember the Foghorn Leghorn cartoons? They don't make them like that any more. One of my favourite quotes is, "That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver." It applies to you perfectly.
One Stop is running fine, tyvm. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 20:24:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Varo Jan One Stop is running fine, tyvm. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
Care to explain how, when you're looking at 8b+ interest and only reportedly making 8b? Surely you expect the business you bought to pay for itself? Unless your mates must step up and save you every time?
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 20:33:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Varo Jan Why are you stating the obvious?
Originally by: Varo Jan And what's the point here?
Doing a good part on playing the Ray role?
This is your business and reputation, not ours. Unless you don't care any longer? Or did you ever?
(PS, I don't.)
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Ms ElectricFeel
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.10 21:02:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
I see nothing to suggest I do.
The profit from the business you purchased has fallen short of meeting the required interest payments for the bond that was raised to purchase it, it has also fallen well short of the target you set yourself.
That equates to failure.
LOL; just look at your shady accounting methods Ray. How can someone who CONSTANTLY fails at partly/mainly running Ebank say someone else is failing?
You make a good point. The profits are paying the interest payments. BUT, at least retained earnings aren't RED for this business. You are trolling for the sake of trolling, when your methods of preparing user information in regards to Ebank's financials are BOOKED. IMO, you have no room to talk.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 21:13:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Ms ElectricFeel
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
I see nothing to suggest I do.
The profit from the business you purchased has fallen short of meeting the required interest payments for the bond that was raised to purchase it, it has also fallen well short of the target you set yourself.
That equates to failure.
LOL; just look at your shady accounting methods Ray. How can someone who CONSTANTLY fails at partly/mainly running Ebank say someone else is failing?
You make a good point. The profits are paying the interest payments. BUT, at least retained earnings aren't RED for this business. You are trolling for the sake of trolling, when your methods of preparing user information in regards to Ebank's financials are BOOKED. IMO, you have no room to talk.
Doesn't mean he can't drop by and call on someone else...
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.04.10 21:26:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Ms ElectricFeel
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan It appears you fall well short in reading comprehension and maths. Little surprise there.
I see nothing to suggest I do.
The profit from the business you purchased has fallen short of meeting the required interest payments for the bond that was raised to purchase it, it has also fallen well short of the target you set yourself.
That equates to failure.
LOL; just look at your shady accounting methods Ray. How can someone who CONSTANTLY fails at partly/mainly running Ebank say someone else is failing?
You make a good point. The profits are paying the interest payments. BUT, at least retained earnings aren't RED for this business. You are trolling for the sake of trolling, when your methods of preparing user information in regards to Ebank's financials are BOOKED. IMO, you have no room to talk.
Doesn't mean he can't drop by and call on someone else...
¿
It sure does ring hollow when known scammers and failed managers, tries to point their dirty fingers at others, but you are completely right, it is the argument that is valid, not the person presenting it.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.04.10 21:46:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Brock Nelson Doesn't mean he can't drop by and call on someone else...
¿
It sure does ring hollow when known scammers and failed managers, tries to point their dirty fingers at others, but you are completely right, it is the argument that is valid, not the person presenting it.
Usually those who get called use "haha! I don't think anybody's who's a scammer or failed manager should be calling on me" as an excuse
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.04.10 22:21:00 -
[292]
Yep you are right, in the future you can just point them towards This
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.04.10 22:34:00 -
[293]
If I understand this correctly, some people are concerned that the core business is bringing in less profits than expected, but not so much less that the interest payments are in danger (that is, profits exceed interest payments, even if not by much). Varo has secured a deal (which may or may not be considered part of the core business), the profits of which will be added to existing profits.
If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:13:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Estel Arador If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
They seem upset that Varo has friendships and connections which allow him to continue running One Stop even in the face of a drop in core business profits.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:19:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 10/04/2010 23:23:24
Quote:
You are an auditor, right? Then learn not to make unsubstantiated accusations
You also are an auditor, who pictured what initially was a jump in the unknown as the safest thing ever, but let's pass over this.
Because I quote someone else does not mean I read their post as holy truth, nor that I wanted to state what those directly above or below my post did.
I do not have so GREAT issues at you working to pay interests, it's your choice to work hard to make someone else's pockets large like a mountain.
What I think is just that: LOW indeed had good nose to dump this huge operation, I am actually half waiting for Bad Bobby to do the same with his. It's how long since the last big IPO / bond (and even not so big IPO) resulted in a shining success, ROI galore and champagne? There's PP and who else?
As partial excuse of other posters tossing wrong numbers (but it's their choice not mine): It's quite hard to follow this long soap opera starring mirrors climbing and changing financial statements and agreements scattered thru the various pages. It's kind of tradition to keep the first OP updated with the last changes and vastly lesser operations (I talk of <= 10B bonds) regularly posted performance audits by third and neutral parties.
What I can more or less see is this:
You are out 150B (plus eventually other, but hair splitting is not necessary here) and basically staying afloat with the interests (correct with the right figures, I CBA grepping the whole novel to find the changes of the changes).
Now, I, a newb, a poor random idiot, with an huge 300M initial investment am making up to 3B a month of interest-free pure cash. I also have proof that *mining ice* with 3 alts (can find something more AFK?) anyone with cheap pilots can make up to 3B a month, interests free and scalable. And again, the investment is about 100M per fitted ship *buying off sell orders*
Now, where do you position this operation's profitability vs initial investment to simple idiocy operations leading to clean 3B of effortless cash, every month? How do you compare this operation setup vs setting 3 mackinaws up? How do you compare the very mention of how the lowest income, most dissed and taken as example of crap, most modest job of all (mining ice) can easily scale up and compete with the huge giant?
150B : 300M = X : 3B
Is the resulting X a GREAT deal or was LOW SMART?
- Auditing & consulting
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tehsuxOr
Poor Old Ornery nOObs
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Posted - 2010.04.11 00:54:00 -
[296]
Ok so if one month is bad that means sure failure? What is wrong with you people? Every market in eve has fluctuation, I'd say it's safe to say this one is no exception to that rule.
Chill out...
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.11 01:59:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Estel Arador If I understand this correctly, some people are concerned that the core business is bringing in less profits than expected, but not so much less that the interest payments are in danger (that is, profits exceed interest payments, even if not by much). Varo has secured a deal (which may or may not be considered part of the core business), the profits of which will be added to existing profits.
If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
Here are some facts: 1. I took over One Stop on 1st Feb 2. Interest payments amounting to 7.25B for Feb were paid on the due date. 3. Interest payments amounting to 8.25B for Mar were paid on the due date. 4. A sales agreement with RAW23 was reached early in April. Said agreement will net me in excess of 7B per calendar month. 5. I have not yet released accounts for One Stop - so nobody is in a position to claim that profits were less or more than expected.
There is no problem.
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tehsuxOr
Poor Old Ornery nOObs
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Posted - 2010.04.11 02:17:00 -
[298]
Edited by: tehsuxOr on 11/04/2010 02:21:01
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Estel Arador If I understand this correctly, some people are concerned that the core business is bringing in less profits than expected, but not so much less that the interest payments are in danger (that is, profits exceed interest payments, even if not by much). Varo has secured a deal (which may or may not be considered part of the core business), the profits of which will be added to existing profits.
If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
Here are some facts: 1. I took over One Stop on 1st Feb 2. Interest payments amounting to 7.25B for Feb were paid on the due date. 3. Interest payments amounting to 8.25B for Mar were paid on the due date. 4. A sales agreement with RAW23 was reached early in April. Said agreement will net me in excess of 7B per calendar month. 5. I have not yet released accounts for One Stop - so nobody is in a position to claim that profits were less or more than expected.
There is no problem.
What he said.
Edit
To the OP, keep doing ur thing, let the flamers do what they do best and flame...
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.11 02:26:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Tome on how smart he is to make 3B with 3 Mackinaws.
Well go you. Whatever floats your boat. This game has room for all styles of play. If you find ice mining fun - who am I to criticise?
Personally, I find running a 175B IPO - and other activities on the side - more exciting, interesting, intellectually stimulating, challenging. Enough adjectives for you?
Oops - I forgot one: rewarding. And I do not mean adding 0.01 ISK to my wallet.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.11 07:21:00 -
[300]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 11/04/2010 07:22:11
Quote:
Well go you. Whatever floats your boat. This game has room for all styles of play. If you find ice mining fun - who am I to criticise?
Same as what I said:
Quote:
I do not have so GREAT issues at you working to pay interests, it's your choice to work hard to make someone else's pockets large like a mountain.
but you missed the point, twice.
In fact I was commenting about how LOW has been a smart manager, not about how you like to use your time.
Edit: the tome was just to support that. - Auditing & consulting
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:06:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan One Stop is running fine, tyvm. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
Care to explain how, when you're looking at 8b+ interest and only reportedly making 8b? Surely you expect the business you bought to pay for itself? Unless your mates must step up and save you every time?
Ok - now I understand why you couldn't grasp the rather basic meaning of my questions about EBANK. You clearly do have genuine problems with reading comprehension. You have repeated yourself three times now, making a point that has no connection to reality. Varo has clarified the language you might have initially misunderstood, yet you keep covering the same ground.
Can you at least try to substantiate one of your statements? Any one would be fine. Can you point me to a post that states that One Stop only makes 8 bil a month (hint: in the post where Varo mentions 15bil, the key word is "exceed")? Can you provide any evidence that the business is not able to pay for itself? Can you support your statement that Varo needed "saving" when I contacted him out of the blue and asked him if he would be willing to take on the sales side of my business so I could free up some time?
Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:16:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Varo Jan 5. I have not yet released accounts for One Stop - so nobody is in a position to claim that profits were less or more than expected.
I guess we'll wait till then to see what happens, but your statement regarding the 15b could only be interpreted one way.
Originally by: RAW23 Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
Nice attempt to try and make this about me; but as you can see I'm not the only one that had an issue with what Varo posted.
I can also talk semantics about wordplay, "exceed 15b" or "exceed 100b"; guess there's no difference if we play it the way you two want to. "15b" was used for a reason, and logical deduction took us to 8b profit.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:25:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Ray McCormack "15b" was used for a reason, and logical deduction took us to 8b profit.
...or 14.999b profit.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.04.11 16:56:00 -
[304]
Edited by: RAW23 on 11/04/2010 16:57:15
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Varo Jan 5. I have not yet released accounts for One Stop - so nobody is in a position to claim that profits were less or more than expected.
I guess we'll wait till then to see what happens, but your statement regarding the 15b could only be interpreted one way.
Originally by: RAW23 Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
Nice attempt to try and make this about me; but as you can see I'm not the only one that had an issue with what Varo posted.
I can also talk semantics about wordplay, "exceed 15b" or "exceed 100b"; guess there's no difference if we play it the way you two want to. "15b" was used for a reason, and logical deduction took us to 8b profit.
Ray, your comments make little sense and show that you do, in fact, have little grasp of semantics. Varo set himself a target of 15bil a month. He then announced that with a new 7bil income stream he will, for the first time, exceed that target this month. That means he was earning less than 15bil before. It does not mean he was only earning 8bil before. You are right that "15bil" was used for a reason; it was used because that was the target he had set and that he was announcing breaking. Your suggestion that "it can only be taken one way", with that way being a statement that One Stop was only earning 8bil is simply incorrect. Not only can it be taken in other ways but also it should not be understood the way you insist on reading it. That you persist in reading it in this way even after Varo has clarified his meaning is, sadly, unsurprising.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 17:48:00 -
[305]
It's okay, everyone knows I'm an idiot. Varo can prove me wrong when he publishes his financials.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.04.11 17:51:00 -
[306]
Im teh boss
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Dzil
Caldari SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.04.12 18:17:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Ray McCormack It's okay, everyone knows I'm an idiot. Varo can prove me wrong when he publishes his financials.
Are you assuming he needs to prove you wrong?
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.29 21:06:00 -
[308]
April interest payments on the secured bond, the unsecured bond, and the private loan have been made.
Investors should be aware that LadyOfWrath's account is currently inactive. The other two trustees in One Stop, Grendell and SetrakDark, are aware of the situation.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.30 02:34:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Varo Jan April interest payments on the secured bond, the unsecured bond, and the private loan have been made.
Investors should be aware that LadyOfWrath's account is currently inactive. The other two trustees in One Stop, Grendell and SetrakDark, are aware of the situation.
Payment received with thanks.
Nice one Varo
Cheers!
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.04.30 06:24:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Varo Jan April interest payments on the secured bond, the unsecured bond, and the private loan have been made.
Investors should be aware that LadyOfWrath's account is currently inactive. The other two trustees in One Stop, Grendell and SetrakDark, are aware of the situation.
Confirming that LOW's is very busy in rl right now, I've spoken to him via telephone a few times just checking in, so he's alive just very busy.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.04.30 13:10:00 -
[311]
For me Varo Jan's financial's are his business provided that the bond payments are met in a timely manner (as they have been from the moment he started). Then Im happy, sure that may not be enough for some people but the way I see it is that if it all goes wrong then there's liquidation as an option but for every payment Im better off.
This is the perfect investment for me as like LoW my personal life is stupidly busy and I don't have the time to play so having a passive income from investment is exactly what I want :)
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.01 18:20:00 -
[312]
Thanks for payment and keeping us up to date.
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Deuce Bigalo
Minmatar Hephaestus Industries LTD
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:56:00 -
[313]
I would like to sell my 1 Share I purchased at 500m. Contact me if interested.
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Murixo
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.04 21:55:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Deuce Bigalo I would like to sell my 1 Share I purchased at 500m. Contact me if interested.
I'll have it.
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Deuce Bigalo
Minmatar Hephaestus Industries LTD
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Posted - 2010.05.05 10:39:00 -
[315]
I'll sell it to you at 500m. Not looking to make a profit. Transfer isk and I'll post here for Varo to Adjust share holders list.
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Deuce Bigalo
Minmatar Hephaestus Industries LTD
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Posted - 2010.05.05 14:31:00 -
[316]
Isk Received. Varo Jan, can you plz transfer my 1 share to Murixo. Thanx.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.05 15:41:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Deuce Bigalo Isk Received. Varo Jan, can you plz transfer my 1 share to Murixo. Thanx.
Transfers are normally done via Grendell. Nevertheless, I'll amend my list of bondholders once Murixo confirms he sent you the money.
Thank you for investing in my bond, Deuce.
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Murixo
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.05 15:52:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Deuce Bigalo Isk Received. Varo Jan, can you plz transfer my 1 share to Murixo. Thanx.
Transfers are normally done via Grendell. Nevertheless, I'll amend my list of bondholders once Murixo confirms he sent you the money.
Thank you for investing in my bond, Deuce.
ISK sent. Was going to use Grendell but everything had been sorted apparently!
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.05 18:24:00 -
[319]
Investor list for secured and unsecured bonds updated in post 232.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.05.30 19:10:00 -
[320]
Received payment , thanks again varo punctual as allways 
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.30 19:13:00 -
[321]
May interest payments on the secured bond, the unsecured bond, and the private loan have been made.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 09:19:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Estel Arador If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
They seem upset that Varo has friendships and connections which allow him to continue running One Stop even in the face of a drop in core business profits.
Instead of being a smart-mouth on the forums how about replying to the thread on the EBANK forums concerning your now defaulted loan? Three months is long enough to wait for a response from you and you've now joined the illustrious crowd of previous employees that have scammed. Congratulations.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.05 09:35:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Packtu'sa
Originally by: Estel Arador If that's the case, what's the problem exactly?
They seem upset that Varo has friendships and connections which allow him to continue running One Stop even in the face of a drop in core business profits.
Instead of being a smart-mouth on the forums how about replying to the thread on the EBANK forums concerning your now defaulted loan? Three months is long enough to wait for a response from you and you've now joined the illustrious crowd of previous employees that have scammed. Congratulations.
Since you bring this to the public forum in an unrelated thread i feel encouraged to ask you when this loan was handed out and if it was fully collateralised loan since i believe that was the rule ebank set out when redevelopment came of Ebank under your wing.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 10:14:00 -
[324]
Originally by: flakeys unrelated thread
Yah, apologies to Varo Jan for that; but it doesn't really deserve its own thread. Feel free to ask any and all questions in the thread, which contains more information on the default.
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.05 10:16:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: flakeys unrelated thread
Yah, apologies to Varo Jan for that; but it doesn't really deserve its own thread. Feel free to ask any and all questions in the thread, which contains more information on the default.
Thank you
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
No apology necessary.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.06.16 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 16/06/2010 15:33:09
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: RAW23 Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
No apology necessary.
I was waiting for that.
Now, whilst I don't want to start a fight, I would be interested to know which of your statements you think has been vindicated by the figures that have just been released. The claim that One Stop didn't make enough to cover interest payments up to the date of your post without the money from me?
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 I'm having trouble understanding the accounts.
Varo and cosmo discuss it in the financials thread, we don't really need to go into it any further.
But you do raise an interesting point, financials in EVE need to be presented in a much simpler format. While I accept they're a requirement for any business venture, I don't believe they need quite the effort that Varo has put in, nor the complications that arise from going into such detail as proposed by him and Hexxx.
Sure, go for it if that's what gets your goose, but I think its overkill to set such complicated, detailed financials as any sort of standard.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.16 16:15:00 -
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@ RAW23 and Ray: Would you do me a favour, please, and take your discussion to the OS Financial Statements thread - if you intend to continue it.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.06.16 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: RAW23 Of course you can't. Your posts attacking other people's businesses are as empty of useful substance as are your posts defending the businesses that you run.
No apology necessary.
Ok - you're right. It appears that no apology is necessary. Profits + transfers > interest payments.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack
But you do raise an interesting point, financials in EVE need to be presented in a much simpler format. While I accept they're a requirement for any business venture, I don't believe they need quite the effort that Varo has put in, nor the complications that arise from going into such detail as proposed by him and Hexxx.
I think the answer to this is going to be tools...not tools to pull API data and make simple charts, but tools that automatically produce much of the financial report AND point out to the person preparing the reports where manual adjustments may need to be made.
This isn't the first time I've said we need better accounting tools, and it's no secret I'm working on solving this challenge myself...there is a clear need I think and I encourage anyone crazy enough to try and take a shot at creating a solution.
That said....once we solve the problem, the second immediate problem is...how the hell do we read this stuff? What good is all this great reporting if the average investor can't make heads or tails of it?
That's the next challenge. My initial thoughts are...agree and stick to a common format and a common reporting language. For example, OS is using FIFO as a method for calculating profit...I would put forward that all "next gen" financial reporting in MD uses this same method for measuring profit. Projects Blog |

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.20 23:42:00 -
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I have accepted an offer from Grendell to refinance the secured bond (150B) and the unsecured bond (25B) at more favourable interest rates. Actions will be as follows:
1. On 30th June I will pay June interest to all secured and unsecured bond holders. 2. On 30th June Grendell will repay capital to all secured and unsecured bond holders. 3. Ji Sama will be released from his commitment to provide 25B in shares as collateral on the secured bond.
I'd like to thank all bond holders, past and current, for their faith in investing in what was my first bond offering. I'm very grateful to you.
My thanks also go to RAW23 and Ji for going the extra mile for me and sticking their necks out. :)
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.06.20 23:47:00 -
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Posting to confirm the above post.
Grendell
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.21 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan I'd like to thank all bond holders, past and current, for their faith in investing in what was my first bond offering. I'm very grateful to you.
I'd add LOW in the credits roll. Investors "faith" has been heavily influenced by LOW credibility in his choosing you. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.21 07:22:00 -
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Thanks for a verry good investment and good luck on your future with one stop varo.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.21 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I'd add LOW in the credits roll. Investors "faith" has been heavily influenced by LOW credibility in his choosing you.
This isn't the Oscars, and since when did you become a mind reader of 40+ investors?
Take it for what it was - a simple thank you.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.21 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys Thanks for a verry good investment and good luck on your future with one stop varo.
You're very welcome, sir. You made the single largest reservation and subsequently increased it. I'm delighted it turned out well for you. If and when I raise a new offering, I hope you will still be interested in investing.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.06.21 10:39:00 -
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Thanks for the ride, it had been my pleasure.
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Krythas
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Posted - 2010.06.22 01:46:00 -
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June interest payment received.
Congrats on the refinancing.
10/10 - would invest again.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.06.22 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Varo Jan on 22/06/2010 01:56:05 It has been an exceptional month for One Stop. Sales so far exceed 15 billion, and there's still more than a week to go to month end.
So I decided to pay June interest on the secured and unsecured bonds early. That has just been done.
Please bear in mind that your capital will be returned to you by Grendell on 30th June.
Edit: Thanks, Krythas. :) Investors in the One Stop buyout bonds will certainly be given preference in any future offerings of mine.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.06.22 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan Edited by: Varo Jan on 22/06/2010 01:56:05 It has been an exceptional month for One Stop. Sales so far exceed 15 billion, and there's still more than a week to go to month end.
So I decided to pay June interest on the secured and unsecured bonds early. That has just been done.
Please bear in mind that your capital will be returned to you by Grendell on 30th June.
Edit: Thanks, Krythas. :) Investors in the One Stop buyout bonds will certainly be given preference in any future offerings of mine.
If you like I can proceed with the buyout early. Mail me the list in-game please.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.22 06:20:00 -
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Confirming receipt of monthly payment.
Well done Varo, it's been a pleasure doing business with you.
Good luck for the future and as an above poster said "10/10, would invest again."
Cheers!
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.22 08:46:00 -
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I got the June payments  Cool and dandy --
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Murixo
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 09:35:00 -
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Thanks very much Varo! You and LoW made me a lot of money off a small initial investment. But damn you for ending this ;) I need to find someone else to take the capital now!
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.22 11:11:00 -
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And here i was thinking :'Damn i had a good sales daY ' when the login screen showed 1.5bille more then what i logged off too 
Thanks for the ride again varo and also my thank goes to grendell.Both of you good luck wth the future of one stop.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.06.22 12:16:00 -
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Yup have to say im very pleased with how you guys ran things :) Its been a pleasure doing business with you, now just need to find something else to invest in :P
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.06.22 18:27:00 -
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I know I was only a small investor here (2 bonds), but it was a good investment.
Hopefully I can find something similarly dependable soon! --
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.06.30 15:09:00 -
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Just a reminder today I will be cashing bond holders out. It will be done this evening when I get home from work. Thank you for your patience.
Grendell ♥
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.06.30 19:04:00 -
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Buyout completed.
Grendell ♥
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DrefsabZN
Caldari Rage For Order
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Posted - 2010.06.30 19:19:00 -
[350]
Confirming payment of 20,000,000,000.00 ISK thank you very much guys, pleasure doing business with you and I will be more than happy to invest in you guys again at a later date if needed.
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Athena Tarsis
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2010.07.01 01:10:00 -
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Confirming payout of my capital investment of 1b ISK.
Thanks for the fun! I'd be happy to look at any future investment opportunities you guys cook up. --
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Krythas
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Posted - 2010.07.01 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Tarsis Confirming payout of my capital investment
Thanks for the fun! I'd be happy to look at any future investment opportunities you guys cook up.
<aol>me too !</aol>
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.07.01 05:08:00 -
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Confirming 1 bil returned. Good luck both. I'll be happy to invest again if there are any future public offerings open. Thanks. |

Trader Hansen
Scord Resources I Like Ponies Club
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Posted - 2010.07.01 07:48:00 -
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15b received. Guess I'll have to start making my own ISK again. :(
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flakeys
DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.01 18:22:00 -
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Confirming receipt of investment and as said thanks a lot and i wish you the best on your future with one stop.
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Taigatoo
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:15:00 -
[356]
Confirming reception of principal (2B ISK).
I must say that this whole bond has been managed exemplary well.
Would invest again.
-T.
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Transval
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.02 04:11:00 -
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Checking in to confirm receipt of initial investment in full.
Many thanks Varo, pleasure doing business with you.
All the best
Cheers!
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.02 08:56:00 -
[358]
Capital investment received back Thanks --
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:42:00 -
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For the record, July interest on the secured and unsecured bonds has been paid to Grendell.
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