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Scout Ops Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:46:00 - [1] I think it would be fair and profitable for everyone. - Players would be happy and stop complaining about crashes. - CCP is not losing, I mean, its just 5 days. - EVE Online gets more subscribers as potential new players notice the service is good. my 0.02isk
Bagrista	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:48:00 - [2] Yeah, that's gonna stop everyone from whining ;) This is my annoying sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Solo Hawk	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:48:00 - [3] Players would not stop complaining, or at least would not stop flooding the forum with hundreds of thread about how the server is down. And CCP IS losing if they give out any kind of free time.
Vergris	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:49:00 - [4] yeah like that is gonna happen lol
Spc One Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:50:00 - [5] i agree.
Mr Epeen	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Scout Ops - CCP is not losing, I mean, its just 5 days. my 0.02isk 5 days at $.50 a day is $2.50 Multiply by 300,000 is $750,000 Are sure it's costing nothing? Mr Epeen
Mendel Goldman	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:52:00 - [7] Nar just roll back Dominion and give everyone their space back. This game has been unplayable since Dominion, alliances lost space and fleets coz of lag. This has been a total fail. I predict the death of EVE(tm) soon.
Shimizu Taiki Gallente CaeIum Incognitum	Posted - 2010.01.22 19:52:00 - [8] Have a look at the EULA. I'm fairly certain it gives absolutely zero guarantees about availability, and that CCP don't have to refund you or give you extra because the servers are down. Nice try though, so you get a C-. ----------------------- Yea, Tho I Walk Through The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil
Scout Ops Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.22 20:05:00 - [9] seriously not a troll thread. just take the summatory of all unprogrammed downtimes for last year (since January 2009) and reimburse it... not that hard.
jfkthesecond Caldari Interstellar War Supplies	Posted - 2010.01.22 20:38:00 - [10] i did not get my extra five days when i resubscribed as advertised
Wendi Watson	Posted - 2010.01.22 20:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Shimizu Taiki Have a look at the EULA. I'm fairly certain it gives absolutely zero guarantees about availability, and that CCP don't have to refund you or give you extra because the servers are down. Nice try though, so you get a C-. This. Section 12 of the EULA: Quote: CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.22 20:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Scout Ops - Players would be happy and stop complaining about crashes. Until the next crash or glitch. At the current rate if CCP implimented this policy we would all play free for months at a time so I am tagging this thread as a stealth whinge for broke players who have limited rl scratch and are wanting any amount of free time they can get. Originally by: Patch Notes CCP Tuxford can no longer shut down TQ on a whim.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:18:00 - [13] Ya, we all know according to the EULA, CCP can also come over to our house and make out with our girlfriends, who cares about the EULA. It's about the fact that other MMORPGs DO refund time when the game is down or unplayable for a full day or more and it is about charging your customers money for a service in which they cannot use solely because of the incompetence of the company providing the service. CCP isn't entitled to give us free playtime to compensate but they should because it is the right thing to do. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Kerfira	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:26:00 - [14] Edited by: Kerfira on 22/01/2010 21:26:09 Originally by: Scout Ops just take the summatory of all unprogrammed downtimes for last year (since January 2009) and reimburse it... not that hard. ...then subtract the amount of time gained every time the scheduled downtime finished earlier (most days the server is up within 30-40 minutes), and subtract the standard cost of a WoW expansion for every expansion. If this number is negative, bill it to all players credit cards.... Go back under your bridge little troll Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
George Mccloud Gallente Helljumpers Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:43:00 - [15] Edited by: George Mccloud on 22/01/2010 21:43:13 Originally by: Vaal Erit Ya, we all know according to the EULA, CCP can also come over to our house and make out with our girlfriends, who cares about the EULA. It's about the fact that other MMORPGs DO refund time when the game is down or unplayable for a full day or more and it is about charging your customers money for a service in which they cannot use solely because of the incompetence of the company providing the service. CCP isn't entitled to give us free playtime to compensate but they should because it is the right thing to do. Name one mmorpg which refunded gametime due to downtime and don't come with an example from years back.
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:44:00 - [16] 5 days? I was inconvenienced by about maybe 15-20 minutes last night when I couldn't play. I also remember agreeing to a EULA and a TOS when I created my Eve account. I think it says somewhere in there that service may not always be up 23/7 as we all wish that it would be. also, don't you hate those people that trick you into thinking their signature is part of their post?
JitPC	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:51:00 - [17] How does a couple 30 minute downtimes = 5 days? Read the contract you agreed to
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:54:00 - [18] Originally by: George Mccloud Edited by: George Mccloud on 22/01/2010 21:43:13 Originally by: Vaal Erit Ya, we all know according to the EULA, CCP can also come over to our house and make out with our girlfriends, who cares about the EULA. It's about the fact that other MMORPGs DO refund time when the game is down or unplayable for a full day or more and it is about charging your customers money for a service in which they cannot use solely because of the incompetence of the company providing the service. CCP isn't entitled to give us free playtime to compensate but they should because it is the right thing to do. Name one mmorpg which refunded gametime due to downtime and don't come with an example from years back. Not necessarily gametime, but EverQuest has tried to make nice with unscheduled downtime by giving out "Experience boost weekends" where exp is increased for a few days, which could be considered roughly equivalent to extra time. It has mostly resulted in every little thing SoE does being answered with "We want a bonus exp weekend" though, CCP doing something similar would therefore not be reccomended.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Magnus Orin don't you hate those people that trick you into thinking their signature is part of their post? Yes, yes I do. Originally by: Akita T this whole game is just me playing with myself
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2010.01.22 21:57:00 - [20] Originally by: George Mccloud Edited by: George Mccloud on 22/01/2010 21:43:13 Originally by: Vaal Erit Ya, we all know according to the EULA, CCP can also come over to our house and make out with our girlfriends, who cares about the EULA. It's about the fact that other MMORPGs DO refund time when the game is down or unplayable for a full day or more and it is about charging your customers money for a service in which they cannot use solely because of the incompetence of the company providing the service. CCP isn't entitled to give us free playtime to compensate but they should because it is the right thing to do. Name one mmorpg which refunded gametime due to downtime and don't come with an example from years back. World of Warcraft does from time to time offer 1 free day, but only in times of extreme server unreliability long periods of downtime (10-15 hours+) In the entire time I played that fail of a game, (for about 2-3 years) I received a 1 day credit to my account twice. It's rare, but it's not unheard of. also, don't you hate those people that trick you into thinking their signature is part of their post?
Syringe Incura	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:05:00 - [21] Not supported. They just gave you a free game expansion. Considering a) that CCP has to deal with a monster of an application, there's bound to be some patch instability b) CCP has made major leaps and bounds in patch stability over the past 4 to 5 years. Be happy with what you have mate. --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question.
Kerfira	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:12:00 - [22] Edited by: Kerfira on 22/01/2010 22:14:18 Originally by: Mr Epeen Originally by: Scout Ops - CCP is not losing, I mean, its just 5 days. my 0.02isk 5 days at $.50 a day is $2.50 Multiply by 300,000 is $750,000 Are sure it's costing nothing? It's the great logic of the whiner.... "The Game is not working well! Let's deprive CCP of funds so they can fix the bugs!" Ehhh.... What??? We're obviously dealing with smart people here.... Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:23:00 - [23] Originally by: George Mccloud Name one mmorpg which refunded gametime due to downtime... EVE Online Originally by: George Mccloud ...and don't come with an example from years back. Well, then I don't have an example. It might be 4 years ago when CCP gave out 1 free day of gametime due to a phase of frequent instabilities. But those were longer and more annoying phases than nowadays.
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:31:00 - [24] OP makes the massive mistake thinking he's speaking for all players, personally I don't CARE about being given some free days, I actually couldn't care any less. What I WANT is a game that runs smoothly. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service
Sumelar	Posted - 2010.01.22 22:43:00 - [25] Totally unnecessary, players just need to realize that things can't be fixed by a flip of a switch. I'm really ashamed that the only thing my generation can really be recognized for its an incredible lack of patience.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.01.22 23:18:00 - [26] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 22/01/2010 23:18:40 Originally by: Sumelar Totally unnecessary, players just need to realize that things can't be fixed by a flip of a switch. I'm really ashamed that the only thing my generation can really be recognized for its an incredible lack of patience. most kids who grow up today thinks their parents are being horrible towards them if they are not given jeans to 500 dollar each or the latest iPhone to 700! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Darth Skorpius Crystalline INC THE-FEDERATION	Posted - 2010.01.22 23:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Darth Skorpius on 22/01/2010 23:23:56 Originally by: George Mccloud Edited by: George Mccloud on 22/01/2010 21:43:13 Originally by: Vaal Erit Ya, we all know according to the EULA, CCP can also come over to our house and make out with our girlfriends, who cares about the EULA. It's about the fact that other MMORPGs DO refund time when the game is down or unplayable for a full day or more and it is about charging your customers money for a service in which they cannot use solely because of the incompetence of the company providing the service. CCP isn't entitled to give us free playtime to compensate but they should because it is the right thing to do. Name one mmorpg which refunded gametime due to downtime and don't come with an example from years back. lord of the rings online, 2 years ago when they screwed up deployment of new server hardware and software that resulted in the game being down for 2 days. they gave everyone 1 day free gametime, and some ingame items. also applied to ddo and ac1 as all of turbines games were effected. the irony of that screwup is that the upgrades were being implemented to decrease future downtimes ____________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG
Cipher Jones	Posted - 2010.01.22 23:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Mr Epeen Originally by: Scout Ops - CCP is not losing, I mean, its just 5 days. my 0.02isk 5 days at $.50 a day is $2.50 Multiply by 300,000 is $750,000 Are sure it's costing nothing? Mr Epeen Yes, and if they were pulling in 3/4 mil every 5 days there wouldnt be server issues.
Hooded Hauler	Posted - 2010.01.22 23:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Mr Epeen Originally by: Scout Ops - CCP is not losing, I mean, its just 5 days. my 0.02isk 5 days at $.50 a day is $2.50 Multiply by 300,000 is $750,000 Are sure it's costing nothing? Mr Epeen Yes, and if they were pulling in 3/4 mil every 5 days there wouldnt be server issues. You do realise they do pull in the above amount, right? It's just that CCP wouldn't be a business if you saw $750k of improvements every 5 days
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.23 01:24:00 - [30] 5 days? WAAAAAH make it at least 7 so then we can play for a weekend. 7 days? WAAAAAH make it at least 14 incase we're busy that week. etc

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