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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.24 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 24/01/2010 17:27:34
Originally by: Tiberizzle It's really amazing how frequently holders of public funds are hacked and hospitalized.
Its a ****ing joke tbh :( RICKROLL ROLLEDRICK RILLROCK
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2010.01.24 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberizzle It's really amazing how frequently holders of public funds are hacked and hospitalized.
Agreed.
It seems bond and IPO owners are akin to race car drivers and are more at risk of unfortunate events happening to them.
Must be hard to buy life cover.
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |

Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Originally by: Tiberizzle It's really amazing how frequently holders of public funds are hacked and hospitalized.
Agreed.
It seems bond and IPO owners are akin to race car drivers and are more at risk of unfortunate events happening to them.
Must be hard to buy life cover.
They probably just lie at the bit where it says "Do you take part in any hazardous activities like rock climbing, skydiving, and running IPOs in Eve?" |

Sofitia Mourtos
Zanjitsu
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Proton Power Lets assume I am computer stupid, and since we are kinda on this topic. What can I do to try and prevent somthign like this happening to me, other than the obvious -
1. Good Password 2. I have Norton Anti-Virus and always keep it updated (It does find stuff here and there though that it calls virus's) 3. I use spybot as a 2nd'ary program to get rid of stuff.
Anything else?
Only use the OSX version of Eve.... not that it is any "safer" just less likely to be the target of a pw sniffer.
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Cecilia Syal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sofitia Mourtos
Only use the OSX version of Eve.... not that it is any "safer" just less likely to be the target of a pw sniffer.
totally wrong, actually most of the acct compromising is done via social engineering it out of you via spoof emails, and brute forcing into someones email, or getting password via 3rd party forums etc, your OS means very little in that case, so why even mention it, i use linux client and feel no safer than someone with windows
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Janiries Swordhand
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Posted - 2010.01.24 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Janiries Swordhand on 24/01/2010 19:40:02 Getting back on topic
Originally by: Breaker77 Edited by: Breaker77 on 24/01/2010 15:54:37
Originally by: Ray McCormack BPOs were locked down, can any shareholders confirm if there were votes to unlock them recently?
The last batch of BPOs were never locked down. Those were the ones he had purchased when he said his buyback would start sometime in January.
No unlock votes have been started on them.
The last vote was on 10/31/2009 to unlock a capital drone bay BPO.
edit: BPO
How come nobody ever asked about this? Also, he was an auditor wasn't he? Doesn't some of the clients have his email address? |

thebarry
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:07:00 -
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Just chill the **** out, ccp will fix it.
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Graic Valente
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: thebarry Just chill the **** out, ccp will fix it.
I'm very relaxed as I have no ISK on the line.
I am just curious.
Where's your evidence that CCP will "fix" this?
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thebarry
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:24:00 -
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Well, if your account is hacked and someone steals your stuff doesn't ccp do a rollback?
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: thebarry Well, if your account is hacked and someone steals your stuff doesn't ccp do a rollback?
If you only log on from say England, and then you have logons with IP addresses from the US that is good reason to believe it was a hack. If you log on from England and have other logons from elsewhere in England is it a hack or are you on vacation, business trip, ect...?
Now if all your assets get transfered to an alt on a trial or a known ISK seller then it would point towards a hack, but I'm not sure how CCP handles that exactly.
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Janiries Swordhand
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:32:00 -
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There has been cases where assets were not recovered, let me see if I can find some threads about that
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: thebarry Just chill the **** out, ccp will fix it.
At the very least Brock could give investors an update
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
Originally by: thebarry Just chill the **** out, ccp will fix it.
At the very least Brock could give investors an update
He did update his bio to reflect it
Quote: Well, I've been hacked and my assets are unrecoverable.
So, have a good life in eve and don't let the bee bite...
Sounds to me like he is just walking away from it, or EVE altogether.
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Cecilia Syal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:38:00 -
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If this was a genuine case, they can eject the stuff into space and someone pick it up, this is very hard to trace, but they "can" see from the IP# log who else was on eve at the same time to pick it up.. or even trace the unique item id #, but this takes a long time cause of the tools involved are not available to even senior gm's i think? theres so much they can trace, but i think the only time they "don't" reimburse is in cases of account sharing. both people get temp (14-30 day) to perm bans and assets are not recovered.
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thebarry
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: cosmoray
Originally by: thebarry Just chill the **** out, ccp will fix it.
At the very least Brock could give investors an update
He did update his bio to reflect it
Quote: Well, I've been hacked and my assets are unrecoverable.
So, have a good life in eve and don't let the bee bite...
Sounds to me like he is just walking away from it, or EVE altogether.
Or simply assuming the worse, for now.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:41:00 -
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If it is account sharing, how would CCP know wither it was Brock or a roomate that logged in to get rid of everything? Yeah Brock could tell them that, but what proof would he have?
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Janiries Swordhand
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77 If it is account sharing, how would CCP know wither it was Brock or a roomate that logged in to get rid of everything? Yeah Brock could tell them that, but what proof would he have?
In that case, he gets banned for life since account sharing is a no no |

Cecilia Syal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Cecilia Syal on 24/01/2010 23:47:33
Originally by: Breaker77 If it is account sharing, how would CCP know wither it was Brock or a roomate that logged in to get rid of everything? Yeah Brock could tell them that, but what proof would he have?
each machine has a unique MAC address and machine name that i believe is also logged each time you enter eve. (if its like OSI's server logs for Ultima Online) its somewhere in the logs so they will know, also the person who logged in & looted account who got a perm ban can petition and they'll review logs to see if it was indeed account sharing, since logs go so far back & they can see if it was a ongoing thing, "sometimes" they just give 14-90 day bans for this activity but either way no assets will be recovered |

Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:25:00 -
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Well,
I'm disappointed by the events that have occurred in the past month, especially in this thread.
Let's start with what happened; I was on a business trip at the beginning of this month and when I had returned from it, I found both of my accounts banned due to compromised security. It's taken CCP about 3 or 4 weeks to do their job and unban it. I just got back from it last week and after looking through my accounts to see if anything was missing, almost everything is missing including the Capital BPO and the research tower for the IPO. Right now, I'm waiting on another petition to CCP to see if these assets are recoverable. After reading some threads on hacked account, some people had their assets returned, some didn't. So, I'm not sure how long these types of petition takes, we'll see.
I'm surprised to see some people already calling me a scammer, especially Cosmoray (went from "Lets wait for a post from Brock" to "SCAM!" in less than 2 hours), Ji Sama following Cosmoray's cue as usual, etc. Barry's right in saying that my account was hacked and it took awhile for me to get it back. Its true that I should have posted something about it once it was unbanned but it was my hope that the petition would reverse some of the damage done. As for my in-game bio, it's just the result of my initial reaction; I mean how do you expect to react when you lost everything that you've worked hard for? I was actually glad that barry at least alerted me to that a mob was forming, ready to take me down as a scammer but I guess I'm too late.
My plan right now is to reconnect to investors and other people that I owe some blueprints to; I will need to plan in the event that CCP doesn't return my assets. I'm in the scc lounge all night answering people questions.
Closed until further notice
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 25/01/2010 00:30:10
Think you should read what i wrote again brock!
Since you made no effort to say what happened, and only thing we had to go by was your ingame bio. Where you claim that the funds and assets are unrecoverable!
I highly doubt that if you where indeed hacked, you wouldn't get reimbursed.
Anyways, I am glad to see you post here, instead of the emoragewhine message in your BIO.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:34:00 -
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Oh, my blueprint store was closed for 2-4 months because I had a large order to complete.
Closed until further notice
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:14:00 -
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Wow! Posted this thread as an info request. I must say that I'm pretty shocked to come back a few hours later and find a complete character assassination going on. I can't say I like Brock a great deal on the basis of the few posts we have aimed at each other but I'm not sure he did anything to deserve this rapid reaction. Given that we can't know when the bio was updated the insta-screams of scam seem rather premature.
@Brock - I'm glad to hear the rumours of your death were as premature as the scam calls.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Wow! Posted this thread as an info request. I must say that I'm pretty shocked to come back a few hours later and find a complete character assassination going on. I can't say I like Brock a great deal on the basis of the few posts we have aimed at each other but I'm not sure he did anything to deserve this rapid reaction. Given that we can't know when the bio was updated the insta-screams of scam seem rather premature.
@Brock - I'm glad to hear the rumours of your death were as premature as the scam calls.
Yeah, I was online when barry was talking to the hacker on your account who was saying that you had died. That was not the funnest evening in scc-lounge that I've ever had. Hope all is well and you get his sorted.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson Well,
I'm disappointed by the events that have occurred in the past month, especially in this thread.
Let's start with what happened; I was on a business trip at the beginning of this month and when I had returned from it, I found both of my accounts banned due to compromised security. It's taken CCP about 3 or 4 weeks to do their job and unban it. I just got back from it last week and after looking through my accounts to see if anything was missing, almost everything is missing including the Capital BPO and the research tower for the IPO. Right now, I'm waiting on another petition to CCP to see if these assets are recoverable. After reading some threads on hacked account, some people had their assets returned, some didn't. So, I'm not sure how long these types of petition takes, we'll see.
I'm surprised to see some people already calling me a scammer, especially Cosmoray (went from "Lets wait for a post from Brock" to "SCAM!" in less than 2 hours), Ji Sama following Cosmoray's cue as usual, etc. Barry's right in saying that my account was hacked and it took awhile for me to get it back. Its true that I should have posted something about it once it was unbanned but it was my hope that the petition would reverse some of the damage done. As for my in-game bio, it's just the result of my initial reaction; I mean how do you expect to react when you lost everything that you've worked hard for? I was actually glad that barry at least alerted me to that a mob was forming, ready to take me down as a scammer but I guess I'm too late.
My plan right now is to reconnect to investors and other people that I owe some blueprints to; I will need to plan in the event that CCP doesn't return my assets. I'm in the scc lounge all night answering people questions.
Problem is that so many people read your BIO and don't see any posts from you that it looks more likely to be a SCAM than not, especially after Xabier quoted "thanks for all the fish" in his bio or Manalapan did the same for DBANK plus others.
Everyone would have given you pass, all it would have taken was a post instead there was a huge circle of rumors for a few weeks.
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Vasta Magna
Yarex Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:39:00 -
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Sorry to hear about your troubles. I can't imagine the annoyance of waiting on CCP's mercy for the return of major assets. I'd be climbing the walls in the meantime.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Brock Nelson on 25/01/2010 01:40:22 Cosmo, there hasn't been any threads (at least that I have read so far) started in the past few weeks regarding my disappearance. Why did you go from lets wait for brock's post to being one of the scam! mob in less than 2 hours.
I was disappointed by you especially because I would've figured that you would be one of those people who wants to wait for the facts. No facts came in, just pure speculations. Yeah there's no excuse for me to try to wait out the whole thing but there's no excuse for you running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
Closed until further notice
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 25/01/2010 01:40:22 Cosmo, there hasn't been any threads (at least that I have read so far) started in the past few weeks regarding my disappearance. Why did you go from lets wait for brock's post to being one of the scam! mob in less than 2 hours.
I was disappointed by you especially because I would've figured that you would be one of those people who wants to wait for the facts. No facts came in, just pure speculations. Yeah there's no excuse for me to try to wait out the whole thing but there's no excuse for you running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
To be fair, your "facts" still don't actually prove anything except that you have a pretty decent story to delay this even further.
That only assumes that you actually are up to no good.
It certainly would be convenient for you to come back again a week from now and say "CCP said they can't give any of it back." and just slowly drag the repayment process on until people finally accept it to just be a complete loss and forget about it all.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 25/01/2010 01:40:22 Cosmo, there hasn't been any threads (at least that I have read so far) started in the past few weeks regarding my disappearance. Why did you go from lets wait for brock's post to being one of the scam! mob in less than 2 hours.
I was disappointed by you especially because I would've figured that you would be one of those people who wants to wait for the facts. No facts came in, just pure speculations. Yeah there's no excuse for me to try to wait out the whole thing but there's no excuse for you running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
I think the problem was that TheBarry came into SCC-lounge a few weeks ago saying that someone had come on to your account and said you had been in a car crash. No wanted to do or say anything because that is a terrible thing.
Then we hear that you are back, then people read your BIO.
It becomes a NOT very convincing set of events, and looks like a SCAM. Thats probably why there have been jokes that running an IPO in Eve is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world!
I jumped in (sorry about jumping to fast, my bad), but if there is a major problem you need to post and not make bad jokes on the BIO, especially if your corp/alliance friends know what is going on.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:48:00 -
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True but don't you think that I should at least get something in? How would you feel if you were well known, have lots of asset and were having fun in this game until a hacker comes along? Everything's gone, everyone's chewed and spit you out
Closed until further notice
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.01.25 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 25/01/2010 01:40:22 Cosmo, there hasn't been any threads (at least that I have read so far) started in the past few weeks regarding my disappearance. Why did you go from lets wait for brock's post to being one of the scam! mob in less than 2 hours.
I was disappointed by you especially because I would've figured that you would be one of those people who wants to wait for the facts. No facts came in, just pure speculations. Yeah there's no excuse for me to try to wait out the whole thing but there's no excuse for you running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
To be fair, your "facts" still don't actually prove anything except that you have a pretty decent story to delay this even further.
That only assumes that you actually are up to no good.
It certainly would be convenient for you to come back again a week from now and say "CCP said they can't give any of it back." and just slowly drag the repayment process on until people finally accept it to just be a complete loss and forget about it all.
Not sure why that would be convenient. Brock would still be dead to the business world if he didn't do something like promise to grind lvl 4s until all investors were repaid.
Speaking of which, how's your project coming along?
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