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Biffa Buttocks
Amarr Abh Empire Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.02.06 15:40:00 -
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As a fairly new player to Eve I'm finding people's reactions to the twists and turns of Bob/IT and Goons confusing. On the one hand with Bob/IT everyone came out in sympathy (even it's enemies) when it hit hard times but now with Goons hitting the dirt everyone is simply laughing and gloating about it.
My (maybe naive) conclusion is the resilience of a large alliance isn't in it's size, strength or even the friendships between it's members, it has to be it's image, i.e. how it behaves and how it is percieved by the rest of the community, it's 'brand image' if you like, am I wrong?
Btw, I'm making no judgements about IT or Goons, I've honestly had little experience of either...
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Jondar Valador
Caldari Intergalactic Crossing Core Factor
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Posted - 2010.02.06 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jondar Valador on 06/02/2010 15:50:30 I think everyone hates Goons because they can spell. I know I do.
e: spellign
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Underlaget
Caldari Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.02.06 15:52:00 -
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IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.02.06 15:58:00 -
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Assuming this isn't a troll, and you genuinely are a newbie player looking for some background, let me give you a quick dirty runthrough:
BoB used to be THE big alliance in eve, everyone knew them, everyone either respected,hated,feared them. Goonswarm got ****d by BoB when they were little, got butthurt. Goonswarm got bigger, started talking trash here on CAOD. Goonswarm disbanded BoB, goons laughing, goon allies laughing, rest of eve laughing (not a lot of people really liked BoB anyway), some ppl sympathetic and/or *****y about 'meta-gaming' etc. BoB returns as kenzoku, returns as IT. Goonswarm now holds former bob space, carebearing it up, continueing their trashtalk on CAOD. Goonswarm leadership fails at paying bills over holidays, goon sov drops in a lot of systems. By now everyone hates goons anyway so everyone (incl. and esp. IT) decides to grab Delve while it's up for grabs. Goon director supposed to fuel **** returns from holiday, founds **** hit the fan, emorages and kicks all corps. Nobody pities goons.
Basically the key differences between BoB/IT's failcascade is that BoB's was enemy induced, and Goonswarm's (the ones responsible for the former's inducement) was by their own hands (or lack thereof), which is why it is theoretically not plausible to be able to have any sympathy whatsoever for them.
All said and done though,
can't we all just be friends? __________________________________________________
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Toffles
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
WAS IT US?
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.06 16:21:00 -
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Bob/IT - Finfleet Goons - Battlestars
If you were gay who would you want to be part of?,..
hth,..
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lylaal
Caldari Onbekend.
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Posted - 2010.02.06 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
WAS IT US?
how could he have rooted for your alliance as its only a few days old
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titanstory
Amarr Section XIII Sect1on XIII
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Posted - 2010.02.06 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: titanstory on 06/02/2010 18:00:06 Edited by: titanstory on 06/02/2010 17:57:46 how many thread about it and goon will you post on caod ? (its not only for you btw)
you know what about hem ? nothing so...
stop poasting if you dont know anything ty !
Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
another it/bob alt...
Originally by: Jondar Valador Edited by: Jondar Valador on 06/02/2010 15:50:30 I think everyone hates Goons because they can spell. I know I do.
e: spellign
you know goon ? they'r good alliTs anyway and i love them. goons forever
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Ganymede21
Gallente The Fallen Angels Unit Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.02.06 17:58:00 -
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BoB played the game as they should Goons played the forums.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: titanstory Edited by: titanstory on 06/02/2010 17:57:46 how many thread about it and goon will you post on caod ? (its not only for you btw)
you know what about hem ? nothing so...
stop poasting if you dont know anything ty !
Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
another it/bob alt...
Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..
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titanstory
Amarr Section XIII Sect1on XIII
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..
hey who are you ? did you know us ? well so you know what to do :)
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:03:00 -
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i think a far more interesting difference is the responce on the forums (in common knowledge)
when bob was disbanded the forums movement was MASSIVE far far bigger than what we are seeing now for goonswarm disband.
secondly when bob was disbanded EVERYONE knew about it seemingly instantly. what we are seeing now is a much slower responce by the eve community, much larger alliances are seeing more members not knowing about goons disbanding (the obvious reason is that no one cares enough to talk about it or remind people about).
my conclusion: the end of bob was a big deal to the 0.0 scene. the end of goons was not as big a deal.
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Tector
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ganymede21 BoB played the game as they should
Getting a dev to give you highly valuable items isn't playing the game as it's meant to be played there, hoss. Goons are awful, vicious creatures, but at least we're honest about it. The former members of BoB have been denying everything for the past three years.
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TexasFire
Caldari Texas Deep Space Lone Star Defense League
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:25:00 -
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In the end game of it all this is pretty simple.
Many were envious of BoB's power and wanted to seem them beaten down.
Most players have found the Goons to be abnoxious little twerps and wanted to see them gone.
Goon wanted to ruin "You're" Game. In the end, so many wanted to kill goons. They killed themselves. They are now only relevant in the fact. They ruined the game for those that wanted to kill them.
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Darek Castigatus
Caldari Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:28:00 -
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IT/BOB/Kenzoku - Snotty Arrogant Tosswads who take things far too seriously Goonswarm - Uber annoying racist, mysoginistic forum trolls who at least sounded like they were having fun
regrettably my vote has to go to goons. Personally i think eve would be better off without the pair of them.
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VCBee 2fast2furious
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:34:00 -
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The main difference is that Goons don't feel the need to switch to an alt when they troll on CAOD.
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TexasFire
Caldari Texas Deep Space Lone Star Defense League
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious The main difference is that Goons don't feel the need to switch to an alt when they troll on CAOD.
Remind me again..... An Alt is a usless toon to use for mundane tasks and is usually pretty disposable.
Is this not what a Goon is?
See Ma...... "I GET GOONS"
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.06 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious The main difference is that Goons don't feel the need to switch to an alt when they troll on CAOD.
I can name you a lot of alts of g**ns.
Only real special of G**ns are, that the try to **** off people with RL stuff. They have mental not the abilities to split game and real world. To get psyological help from professionals would help them more then playing computer games.
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Mudzahidin
Amarr GoonFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mudzahidin on 06/02/2010 19:05:35
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..
Why would you put a comma before suspension marks, Warm Bread?
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bobIT ambition
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:10:00 -
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BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
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Killljoy
Gallente Gatehoppers Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:12:00 -
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bob/it= evil goons= *******s
sums it up
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: bobIT ambition BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
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Mudzahidin
Amarr GoonFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mudzahidin on 06/02/2010 19:17:49
Originally by: Ganymede21 BoB played the game as they should Goons played the forums.
Wow, Rroma wisdom first hand
edit: hth,..
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bobIT ambition
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
I'd be more inclined to believe you if BOB/IT weren't known eve wide for their propensity for, whoops, losing their cap fleet again and again and again, normally shortly after posting on CAOD by Molle about how uber they are.
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titanstory
Amarr Section XIII Sect1on XIII
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: bobIT ambition BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
IT op : kill and try to never loose ship goon op : loosing ship is fun, and newbs op are very hilarous..
i vote for goon op, sorry
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Killer Gandry
Caldari TerraNovae Amici Noctis
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Posted - 2010.02.06 19:59:00 -
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Saw the rise and demise of BoB and didn't care. Saw the rise and demise of Goons and didn't care.
Simply because ****s who need to metagame to actually achieve anything ingame are all the same, just that some call themselves BoB and others Goons.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: bobIT ambition BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
IT op : kill and try to never loose ship goon op : loosing ship is fun, and newbs op are very hilarous..
i vote for goon op, sorry
Its better if you do it from an alt that way it may count, agreeing with goons from a reject TCF corp isnt all that shocking,..
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Hanabi Kazan
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Hanabi Kazan on 06/02/2010 20:04:59
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
sorry dude, were pretty laid back, so pretentious *******s in our gangs don't usually have much fun.
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Brobuck
Caldari ElitistOps
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hanabi Kazan
sorry dude, were pretty laid back, so pretentious *******s in our gangs don't usually have much fun.
I enjoy them.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hanabi Kazan Edited by: Hanabi Kazan on 06/02/2010 20:04:59
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
sorry dude, were pretty laid back, so pretentious *******s in our gangs don't usually have much fun.
Yeah well I have been in both fleets and dont make it sound like you have all the fun, just because people dont spam your alarm clock ops on CAOD doesnt mean they dont happen, I guess im a fan of things being organised rather than scattered and ****ed up,..
Serious and fun doesnt matter in this game anymore, thanks to Goons those words officially lost all meaning, but for what its worth I actually dont mind alot of Goons sadly its the generic puppets that annoy me and even Goons, IT on the other hand well I am yet to find something I dislike,..
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SavageBastard
Caldari Igneus Auctorita SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: SavageBastard on 06/02/2010 20:53:52
Originally by: Biffa Buttocks As a fairly new player to Eve I'm finding people's reactions to the twists and turns of Bob/IT and Goons confusing. On the one hand with Bob/IT everyone came out in sympathy (even it's enemies) when it hit hard times but now with Goons hitting the dirt everyone is simply laughing and gloating about it.
My (maybe naive) conclusion is the resilience of a large alliance isn't in it's size, strength or even the friendships between it's members, it has to be it's image, i.e. how it behaves and how it is percieved by the rest of the community, it's 'brand image' if you like, am I wrong?
Btw, I'm making no judgements about IT or Goons, I've honestly had little experience of either...
We so badly need and want your sympathy can't you give us just a little?
Originally by: Ganymede21 BoB played the game as they should Goons played the forums.
I remember hotdropping your posts, apparently.
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rmfHorus
Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:20:00 -
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Sorry guys but the error here is compare bob to it : and bob it/ to goonswarm.
BOB where an elite alliance of the past, that have win for much time thx to theyr coordination , high quality and relatively low number compared to theyr enemy. they lost to a new tactics : swarm tactics. they tried evolve themself and bring more and more pilots but was too late.
IT are bob transformed or better adapted to theyr enemys tactics, on a shorter version. IT is a copy of goonswarm tactics simply with better numbers/quality/ and with a much more active player base.
as goonswarm defeated in the past bob, on meta tactics, now IT defeat goonswarm on theyr "swarm" tactics.
both where victim of evolution.
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Ivan Issaccs
Caldari inFluX. Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:21:00 -
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The average Goon is irritating. The average BoB member is unseen until you make the effort to **** in their shoes.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.06 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan Issaccs The average Goon is irritating. The average BoB member is unseen until you make the effort to **** in their shoes.
BoB=Goon
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Goose Hypocrisy
Caldari The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:05:00 -
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The difference between the two organizations are minimal at best, but they try hard to paint themselves as complete opposites.
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Richyp
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: rmfHorus Sorry guys but the error here is compare bob to it : and bob it/ to goonswarm.
BOB where an elite alliance of the past, that have win for much time thx to theyr coordination , high quality and relatively low number compared to theyr enemy. they lost to a new tactics : swarm tactics. they tried evolve themself and bring more and more pilots but was too late.
IT are bob transformed or better adapted to theyr enemys tactics, on a shorter version. IT is a copy of goonswarm tactics simply with better numbers/quality/ and with a much more active player base.
as goonswarm defeated in the past bob, on meta tactics, now IT defeat goonswarm on theyr "swarm" tactics.
both where victim of evolution.
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Tector
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tector on 07/02/2010 01:18:42 BoB ended because it tried to engage in the meta tactics its allies reviled, only to have the attempt backfire badly. Goonswarm ended because Goons are dumb.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2010.02.07 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: titanstory Edited by: titanstory on 06/02/2010 18:00:06 Edited by: titanstory on 06/02/2010 17:57:46 how many thread about it and goon will you post on caod ? (its not only for you btw)
you know what about hem ? nothing so...
stop poasting if you dont know anything ty !
Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
another it/bob alt...
Originally by: Jondar Valador Edited by: Jondar Valador on 06/02/2010 15:50:30 I think everyone hates Goons because they can spell. I know I do.
e: spellign
you know goon ? they'r good alliTs anyway and i love them. goons forever
Underlaget is no BoB/IT alt.
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 01:57:00 -
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Difference between the two? I was willing to kill Bob for free. Even Goon's allies would be willing to kill Goons for free.
o7 Goonie brosefs
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:11:00 -
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You're no Pandemic Legion.
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laotse
Gallente The Flying Dutchmen
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Posted - 2010.02.07 02:37:00 -
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there is no diference goons didnt fly there and it isnt also they are allaince made of air only big on paper
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Brodde Dim
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:22:00 -
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The old BoB was feared in game. And managed to get a lot of enemies. But even with a huge portion of the 0.0 alliances teaming up, they were never defeated. I suppose a lot of people was sympathetic when a bored director decided to disband the alliance because he could. Everyone would have preferred fighting til the end.
Goons on the other hand, has never achieved anything in game. They are famous for meta gaming, forum trolling, and taking credit. Well, and being many, and still failing.
I think people just expect goons to fail, and expected BoB/IT to put up a fight. I guess you could call it a brand image if you want.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brodde Dim The old BoB was feared in game. And managed to get a lot of enemies. But even with a huge portion of the 0.0 alliances teaming up, they were never defeated. I suppose a lot of people was sympathetic when a bored director decided to disband the alliance because he could. Everyone would have preferred fighting til the end.
Goons on the other hand, has never achieved anything in game. They are famous for meta gaming, forum trolling, and taking credit. Well, and being many, and still failing.
I think people just expect goons to fail, and expected BoB/IT to put up a fight. I guess you could call it a brand image if you want.
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Jessica Carnius
Minmatar Copia-WarRages Armaments Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.02.07 03:33:00 -
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The biggest difference is simply posting style and how they they recruit that's really it. They have absorbed each others play style over the past few years.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.07 06:46:00 -
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Actually the hatred for Goons started when Goons decided to mock a person who died in RL, I cant believe you people never even mentioned that, Bob dont just 'hate' people,..
I tried to find the thread initially where molle got ****ed at Goons stupid comments, I also tried to find the thread on gf.com where suas and darius say they need to spend the next few months derailing and stopping people from talking about it,..
NC disliked Bob purely because Vuk has always been jealous of Bob, since they achieved so much and Rawr didnt therefore the NC decided it was best to team up with Goons, TCF at this point was in the south chest beating making it sound like they were useful,..
After a while and after MANY failed invasions in Delve, Bob and AAA went after Goons, TCF within a month get nuked to the North (best fail ever), Goons are reduced to 10 ->> 20 systems (this was about Jan last year),..
Goons then desperately find a way to work with this and they find one of their elite members working with Haargoth in RL, at this point Haargoth has been inactive for months, he then accepts about ú2000 in RL to disband Bob, upon disbanding he then immediately goes inactive, in short Haargoth (including alts) had a total of 1 week play time in 2 years,..
Goons then buy time in their demise and have NC, KIA, ZAF, SPLOT and a **** load of other people to help them take down Bob,..
Bob may have lose its sov but loyality was still somewhat strong, it took upto June 09 before Bob decided theres no point going against 90% of Eden and fall back planning their next move,..
Bob then form as IT alliance and do exactly what was on their agenda, to take out Goons, PL and the other noobs in foutain, Delve, Querious and PB, with the help of allies such as sys-k, aaa, hun, aeturnus, blade etc,..
The battle is too easy, Goons are once again useless, PL caves incredebly fast and now delve is back in the hands of its rightful owner,..
TL;DR
Goons mock a dead person, NC likes this and makes the allies, Bob hates this and goes after them, few years later all we have learnt is NC fail, Goons no longer exist along with their crappy allies,..
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Koronos
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.02.07 07:02:00 -
[46]
lol @ thread. considered trying to explain things for historic purposes, but this is actually pretty perfect.
Originally by: rmfHorus Sorry guys but the error here is compare bob to it : and bob it/ to goonswarm
BOB where an elite alliance of the past, that have win for much time thx to theyr coordination , high quality and relatively low number compared to theyr enemy. they lost to a new tactics : swarm tactics. they tried evolve themself and bring more and more pilots but was too late.
IT are bob transformed or better adapted to theyr enemys tactics, on a shorter version. IT is a copy of goonswarm tactics simply with better numbers/quality/ and with a much more active player base.
as goonswarm defeated in the past bob, on meta tactics, now IT defeat goonswarm on theyr "swarm" tactics.
both where victim of evolution.
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Zlatorg
Caldari Sons of Viagra Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.07 07:24:00 -
[47]
Both alliances are crap and were formed simply to justify the existence of a lot of ******os that did not get laid in the previous years.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 07:50:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Underlaget IT/BOB = Respectable people on forums and in-game. GOONS = Forum trolls.
Guess who I rooted for? :)
Welcome to EVE, new player. :)
You must be very new if you actually believe what you say about BoB and IT.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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OldPueblo
Gallente DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2010.02.07 09:09:00 -
[49]
This is quite a thread.
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Nemulus
Gallente The Darkness Within
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Posted - 2010.02.07 15:57:00 -
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I would add that the main reason BoB was big news was that they were caught with CCP Dev's in their alliance early on and that has never really left them.
Whether they helped to make IT what it is now I couldn't tell you but that's why there was such big news about them imho.
Goons may have faults but I've yet to see proof that CCP funded them in anyway. Either way I don't care as every online game I have ever played had the biggest guilds/alliance/players sponsored or friends with the GM/DM/Dev team. Just life in the virtual world :).
Nem
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2010.02.07 17:19:00 -
[51]
Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: bobIT ambition BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
Compare a Goon op with an IT op then you will see a MAJOR difference,..
Its like when you are an IT op you know you are in safe hands, when you are in a Goon op you are wondering why Plague Black sounds so emo,..
IT op : kill and try to never loose ship goon op : loosing ship is fun, and newbs op are very hilarous..
i vote for goon op, sorry
explains your progress vs darkside.
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Liebe DieBombe
Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 17:32:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle words,..
Beep Beep.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.07 17:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Liebe DieBombe
Originally by: Mystic Turtle words,..
Beep Beep.
The main thing you got the signature [,..] thats what counts,..
So like I asked Darius is TE could join SOLIDRAPINGBURNED and he hasnt replied guess he takes this game serious, so I apply to Band Of Brosefs and no reply still, so I apply to PL and no reply,..
Seems like all the reject alliances dont want me,..
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Captain ULTIMATE
Amarr DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2010.02.07 19:30:00 -
[54]
Let's be honest, the biggest difference between BoB and Goons is Goons are full of fatties whereas BoB is not.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 19:35:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Captain ULTIMATE Let's be honest, the biggest difference between BoB and Goons is Goons are full of fatties whereas BoB is not.
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Schani Kratnorr
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.07 21:27:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 07/02/2010 21:27:16
Originally by: Biffa Buttocks I've honestly had little experience of either...
If you really want to know, then you would need to experience both.
Alliance mechanics Any comparison must focus on differences. Goonswarm alliance allowed more corporations than IT has or Band of Brothers did. The only disadvantage I can think of, is how coordination might have been adversely affected by the mess of "too many directors."
As it turned out however, the Goonswarm name was lost to an old alliancekiller - betrayal.
The posts... Goonfleet and their swarm adopted a certain posting style, and for that they have been despised. Band of Brothers were despised because their posting members revelled in envy. They played or asumed the role of "arrogant and evil," and for that they were despised and hated.
After claiming victory over the Evil BoB, many goons went out of their way to gloat, and appear arrogant and evil. Slowly forum sympathy for their organisation evaporated - it seems no one likes gloating... (a lesson well worth remembering.)
Why it is funny Goons falling on their asses, loosing their alliance name, their space and their assets is very amusing. It is amusing because that is exactly what a lot of people found amusing about the way Band of Brothers lost their name.
It is perhaps even more funny because people remember the goons gloating a whole lot about how 'they alone killed bob.' Subtly forgetting their allies and the fact that they did not in fact 'kill bob,' merely took space from them.
When it comes down to it, it is all semantics. We can discuss and argue forever, but perhaps the difference can be illustrated by a quote.
From an anonymous source:
Quote: I tell you it is hell being on Team Speak with Goons. They all talk **** constantly and now I have a headache!
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 22:28:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 07/02/2010 21:27:16
Originally by: Biffa Buttocks I've honestly had little experience of either...
If you really want to know, then you would need to experience both.
Alliance mechanics Any comparison must focus on differences. Goonswarm alliance allowed more corporations than IT has or Band of Brothers did. The only disadvantage I can think of, is how coordination might have been adversely affected by the mess of "too many directors."
As it turned out however, the Goonswarm name was lost to an old alliancekiller - betrayal.
The posts... Goonfleet and their swarm adopted a certain posting style, and for that they have been despised. Band of Brothers were despised because their posting members revelled in envy. They played or asumed the role of "arrogant and evil," and for that they were despised and hated.
After claiming victory over the Evil BoB, many goons went out of their way to gloat, and appear arrogant and evil. Slowly forum sympathy for their organisation evaporated - it seems no one likes gloating... (a lesson well worth remembering.)
Why it is funny Goons falling on their asses, loosing their alliance name, their space and their assets is very amusing. It is amusing because that is exactly what a lot of people found amusing about the way Band of Brothers lost their name.
It is perhaps even more funny because people remember the goons gloating a whole lot about how 'they alone killed bob.' Subtly forgetting their allies and the fact that they did not in fact 'kill bob,' merely took space from them.
When it comes down to it, it is all semantics. We can discuss and argue forever, but perhaps the difference can be illustrated by a quote.
From an anonymous source:
Quote: I tell you it is hell being on Team Speak with Goons. They all talk **** constantly and now I have a headache!
Rifters at 30km on the Jita 4-4 undock.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God
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Posted - 2010.02.07 22:58:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Rikeka on 07/02/2010 23:00:47 I like the bobbits more nowadays. They toned it down a lot in CAOD lately, kudos to them. But only a short time ago they were just like the Goons are now (that is, CAOD spamming ****s).
Well, maybe not that bad.
But to go as far as say that the bobbits are the "good guys"... Nah
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Nobani
Minmatar Merch Industrial SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.07 23:38:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr From an anonymous source:
Quote: I tell you it is hell being on Team Speak with Goons. They all talk **** constantly and now I have a headache!
I know he has a lot of alts, but DaBigRedBoat is not the entire alliance.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.07 23:40:00 -
[60]
Indeed, the historically definining traits of Goons vs Bob are:
- Goons created forum signatures to mock the death of a R/L BoB player - Bob declared war on Goons in protest as CCP didn't prevent it - Many years passed where BoB stood against huge numbers of blob enemies - Goons paid off BoB director with R/L money to disband the alliance - BoB took 6 months off to regroup as IT and attacked PL, Goons greatest allies - PL folded and retreated within 2 weeks - BoB/ IT launched offensive against Goons, Goons disbanded within 24 hours - IT claimed all Goon / PL space
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Captain ULTIMATE
Amarr DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2010.02.08 00:00:00 -
[61]
I don't recall anyone ever proving he died, sounds like a big excuse to me. I mean who brings RL death into a video game, that's just absurd. Smoske I know you're playing on a different character and laughing about this, I'm calling you out.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 00:01:00 -
[62]
Some more BoB/IT Traits
- BoB starts the capital Blob-Warfare by locking down EC-P8R, with the larges number or Players and Capitals so far, effectivly using Lag as a weapon, because it became impossible to enter the System.
- BoB attacks the former ally ASCN. supposedly because they were indeed the first to build a Titan, which the Bobbites Ego could not accept.
- War against ASCN starts. Exploiting on a level never seen before happens ingame, that turns fleet battles into turkey shootings. Gameplay mechanics like POS bowling, or shooting through POS shields while the shield is still active are introduced. Also the biggest smear campaign seen so far starts on the forum, with the goal to personally destroy the leaders of ASCN. The smear campaign and use of ingame exploits goes unchallenged by forum moderators and CCP staff. In fact the rumors that BoB had active help by CCP get new fuel.
- An EVE player named K reveals that several players inside BoB have direct connections to CCP, at the same time evidence is found that BoB members used their contacts to have a player from the events team fired, because he did not follow the "order" of a BoB directors-
- Infamous name Band of Developers is assigned to BoB. CCP admits that indeed one of their staff was cheating by handing T2 BPO to BoB. No one except the BoB fanbois believes that no other knowledge of game mechanics and upcoming changes were given to BoB firsthand.
- Use of exploits continues virtually unchallenged. using a spy and a loophole in aggression timer mechanics was used to kill the first Titans ingame.
- Still multiple alliances throw their worthless hides in front to help defend BoB/IT assets. BoD Fanbois swarm the forums in droves
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God
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Posted - 2010.02.08 00:12:00 -
[63]
Yes, seriously. Both sides suck. --------------------------
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Phoenix Skull
Caldari Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 00:30:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Phoenix Skull on 08/02/2010 00:32:37
we'll call it a draw
Monty Python- The King (BoB/IT) vs The Black Knight (Goons) on Youtube
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God
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Posted - 2010.02.08 01:10:00 -
[65]
LOL, I totally forgot about that Monty sketch. Thanks for the reminder. --------------------------
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.02.08 02:15:00 -
[66]
Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them. ---
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 03:26:00 -
[67]
You guys are not using enough words.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 03:42:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Suitonia Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.
When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..
With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..
All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..
Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..
As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,..
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Noskill McCheese
Minmatar Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.08 05:47:00 -
[69]
Where was it confirmed that haargoth pushed the button for rl money? I've been gone a few months so may have missed it. Eve-search just turns up a bunch of the february '09 hurfblurf.
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ShizukaKaze
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.08 05:58:00 -
[70]
Ah, Moskill, you just missed forum rule #1.
Anything written by Trigram's Edge is wholly inaccurate and made up. Windy also tends to spew garbage without facts backing things up.
And as for CCP not doing anything about the signature mocking someone's death...it's because it had nothing to do with CCP. As I recall it was an internal forum and not the EvE online forums themselves.
I hate BoB because they cheated. You can't erase that. Goons may try to ruin "Your" game, but that's pretty much what EvE is about. They brought tons of newbies into EvE, bring better documentation and tutorials than CCP themselves (well...for a long time anyways, haven't done NPE in a year or two) and generally enjoy the game. I always enjoyed flying with their fleets. Razor was actually pretty stifling because of all of the srs bsnss. BoB always was really "we are better." Hell...the whole thing with goons when it started was a bunch of high SP characters picking on low SP characters and chestbeating and declaring they won. Didn't wind up so good for them last year.
And I think its quite awesome and hilarious. Only goons can destroy goons. And I know they're laughing all the way back to Syndicate because they have fun in a spaceship internet game.
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Mr Dobalina
Minmatar Fraudulent Foes
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Posted - 2010.02.08 06:52:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: Suitonia Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.
When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..
With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..
All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..
Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..
As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,..
The only thing goons changed about eve was forum slang. Other alliances were blobbing, napping, stealing, metagaming, and pulling irl bs way before goons. They just didn't talk about it openly.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 07:03:00 -
[72]
My post got reported and deleted, so I think it is safe to say Goons even feel threatened by me, lol talk about taking things too serious,.. >.>
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Cadela Fria
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 07:36:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/02/2010 07:38:20
Originally by: Mr Dobalina
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: Suitonia Was BoB really that respected as alts here claim? When I started playing in Feb 2007, I remember a lot of chest-beating / smacking on CAOD from Band of Brothers. Also, the t20 incident sparked a lot of hate against them.
When I started in Oct 06, I found alot of honour crap from Bob but nothing that wasnt any different from any experienced alliance,..
With Goons it was "mock the dead", "cheat and scam", "lie and cry", with NC it was "exploit the moons", "make up lies about enemies", "**** up diplomacy in 0.0",..
All bob did was the crappy honor / pride thing which everyone else except Goons did, the T20 incident is getting really old now but if you want to mention it you would also have to mention how NC exploited for YEARS with moons minerals, how they had chinese ISK farmers as allies for 'various' reasons,..
Also mention how Goons spent over 6 months defending their "mock the dead" campaign before actually doing anything, how Goons took things way too serious and resorted to stuff in RL to achieve anything in game (not just Haargoth),..
As I said feel free to post about the 'T20' crap but then dont forget to mention about everything else that happened in EvE, also getting 3 BPO spawed doesnt provide skill,..
The only thing goons changed about eve was forum slang. Other alliances were blobbing, napping, stealing, metagaming, and pulling irl bs way before goons. They just didn't talk about it openly.
So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain. Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..
There really is no excuse...so..well?
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Mr Dobalina
Minmatar Fraudulent Foes
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Posted - 2010.02.08 08:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Cadela Fria
So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain. Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..
There really is no excuse...so..well?
I didn't say anywhere that I thought it was ok, only that it was going on before goons and a complex reality of .0 politics.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 10:08:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/02/2010 10:14:40 Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/02/2010 10:12:31
Originally by: Mr Dobalina
Originally by: Cadela Fria
So are you saying, excluding minor details, that as long as you talk about it openly...its okay? I'm not trying to justify any past incidents by BoB or anyone related to them in regards to doing similar things. You are however suggesting that this sort of behaviour is acceptable based on the premise of "They did it too!", nevermind actually jeopardizing innocent people's real jobs, giving them real stress and real emotional pain. Why? Because its the latest rage in internetz humour and "fun"..
There really is no excuse...so..well?
I didn't say anywhere that I thought it was ok, only that it was going on before goons and a complex reality of .0 politics.
Fine, Ok...I acknowledge that what you said does in fact not say anywhere that its OK. However please stop to consider that this is in fact largely whats going on as far as the Goons are concerned. The excuse (if you can call it that) they provide now and again, is based on the past events of BoB to some degree and/or people related to them in some way.
Now as far as their (Goons) "obsessed about BoB and their antics" goes and mimicing it..nobody cares beyond that of finding it slightly pathetic and annoying (but sometimes funny) to listen to now and again, so go nuts. Heck even the part about remarking on Molle's RL occupation of repair airconditioners and radiators (or whatever it is specifically he does)..by all means if it makes their day. Again, beyond finding it slightly pathetic and annoying to listen to, nobody really cares.
However as soon as you start dragging innocent people and their REAL LIFE jobs into the scope of your malicious and obnoxious behaviour..as soon as you start giving people real stress (panicking over losing your ship isn't stress in this context) and harassing people in REAL LIFE...throwing around accusations, calling their work, making death threats (mind you, death threats are something I don't take very personal...people overreact all the time and say stupid stuff) and in some cases (apparently unbeknownst to me personally..If it never happened, then ignore the remark I made about it)making fun of deceased people. Thats when I, personally, have a problem with it.
For all the ad nauseum tongue-in-cheek 'o snap' remarks, I doubt many have really considered it morally wrong or otherwise something that affects them personally..its certainly fine to do all that repetitive nonsense by most people I know, myself included. So post all the troll threads you want, scam and lie all you want, infiltrate with spies all you want, remark on "ye olde bob" all you want. Obsess as much as you want over the past of EVE and the people in it...its when RL enters the picture it has to stop (EDIT) and "They did it too!" is not an excuse, pure and simple.
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 12:21:00 -
[76]
When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271
When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.
Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 12:44:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Rebellion When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271
When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.
Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399
Tbh it doesnt really matter what you post the brainwashed are still going to blindly follow their queen bee, fortunately most Goons are less than 1 year old (in game and most likely RL) so I guess they see what Bob/IT are all about,..
To goons that looks that arrogance, to normal people that looks like honour and respect,.. ;)
Anyway to quote Fitz, glory to age of Goons death, the worst alliance in EvE history to be dead, now 0.0 can actually be 'real' again,..
Also this just in 85% of remaining Goonies left for STO LOL!!,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
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ExhumeToConsume
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 12:49:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Rebellion When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271
When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.
Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399
I, too, am looking forward to all the internet spaceship ~~goodfights~~ that will spring up in the Eve universe now that the all-conquering white knights of the IT Alliance are in charge of Delve (and Fountain, bonus).
Let the third age of Molledom commence and cover the land with honey and exotic dancers. |
Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 12:56:00 -
[79]
Originally by: ExhumeToConsume
Originally by: Rebellion When we were at the top for years, the playerbase got massive wars, epic conflicts, great drama. I said this before: http://eve-search.com/thread/442752/page/10#271
When we regrouped for 6 months and the Goons were the self-proclaimed top, the playerbase got spam.
Those that have been fighting with us all these years still see us as this: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=356399
I, too, am looking forward to all the internet spaceship ~~goodfights~~ that will spring up in the Eve universe now that the all-conquering white knights of the IT Alliance are in charge of Delve (and Fountain, bonus).
Let the third age of Molledom commence and cover the land with honey and exotic dancers.
Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.> --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Killer Gandry
Caldari TerraNovae Amici Noctis
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:10:00 -
[80]
I am laughing my ass off when I read Goons and BoB/IT replies in this tread, and also when I read the alts that post like mad, both sides trying to create a network around them of people who will choose their sides.
One side saying that the other side cheated and was too overzealous in their approach towards the game. Not that they themselves played it that fair and weren't overzealous in their approach towards the game.
The other side calling the one side little kids, unfair chestbeaters, metagamers etc. Not that they themselves are that mature, play it fair and dont metagame.
If you look closely at it you will hardly see any noticeable differences between the 2 groups. Both nothing else then bullies of the block and blaming the other one to use tactics they themselves use aswel.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:17:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Killer Gandry I am laughing my ass off when I read Goons and BoB/IT replies in this tread, and also when I read the alts that post like mad, both sides trying to create a network around them of people who will choose their sides.
One side saying that the other side cheated and was too overzealous in their approach towards the game. Not that they themselves played it that fair and weren't overzealous in their approach towards the game.
The other side calling the one side little kids, unfair chestbeaters, metagamers etc. Not that they themselves are that mature, play it fair and dont metagame.
If you look closely at it you will hardly see any noticeable differences between the 2 groups. Both nothing else then bullies of the block and blaming the other one to use tactics they themselves use aswel.
This is our RP I guess, no difference to when RL politics gets anal, all in all its fun ****, but I am 100% unbiased in my comments and only speak what is true, Goons have to read from a script,..
Vote Sarah Palin 2012,.. Ooops wrong forum,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
ExhumeToConsume
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:30:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.>
EDIT; Oh and IT only have delve because you guys got beat so fast, the agenda was to have NOL- by 5th Feb not everything, seriously you guys could have at least stayed til March,..
Confirming that Goons care for nothing more than their internet spaceships credibility. To demonstrate this, I will offer to reimburse anyone who lost a cap ship to Goons in the last 6 months. All that is required is a small logistics/administration fee of 250 million isk to be paid into my account. I'm sure you'll realise that this small sum pales into insignificance when compared to the cost of a cap ship.
I trust that those who hate us will soon marvel at such generosity and our e-honour can be restored to its former glory. |
Doctor Penguin
Amarr Sacred Templars Black Swan.
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Posted - 2010.02.08 13:34:00 -
[83]
"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 14:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: ExhumeToConsume
Originally by: Mystic Turtle Because when Goons were in Delve things were different,.. >.>
EDIT; Oh and IT only have delve because you guys got beat so fast, the agenda was to have NOL- by 5th Feb not everything, seriously you guys could have at least stayed til March,..
Confirming that Goons care for nothing more than their internet spaceships credibility.
Thanks for the confirmation,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Nemulus
Gallente The Darkness Within
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Posted - 2010.02.08 14:24:00 -
[85]
I'm going to answer the orginal question of this thread. The subtle differences between BoB and Goons. From what I have seen ingame and now in this thread and CAOD generally........
Lol there is no difference at all they do the same things in a different way but it adds up to the same. I'll add its just the same in all Online games don't hate them for it people change when they get power even air condition maintenance guys it seems ~:P.
Lets just play the game its still good and goes round in circles, 6 months from now IT will be in ruin and new Goons (BoB) will be top of the foodchain or maybe another coalition of 20 alliances lol.
Nem
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.08 14:43:00 -
[86]
the main difference
Goonswarm won its victories without CCPs help ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
VCBee 2fast2furious
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 15:22:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Doctor Penguin "Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.
confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.08 15:26:00 -
[88]
Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious
Originally by: Doctor Penguin "Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.
confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone
Well tbh CAOD is dead much like your alliance, you guys didnt really post until Mittani ordered you to, I welcome all spam and trolling but its been pretty dead around here, ah well we still have lolz on gf.com how you guys are going to get revenge,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Jaggath
Caldari Spacebattles.com Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.02.08 16:55:00 -
[89]
Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..
hey who are you ? did you know us ? well so you know what to do :)
Surrender like all good Frenchmen should right?
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Larsonist
Amarr Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.02.08 18:01:00 -
[90]
Quote: I don't recall anyone ever proving he died, sounds like a big excuse to me. I mean who brings RL death into a video game, that's just absurd. Smoske I know you're playing on a different character and laughing about this, I'm calling you out.
pointless statement.
Buh bye goons |
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Kimi PewPew
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 18:33:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Originally by: VCBee 2fast2furious
Originally by: Doctor Penguin "Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Pretty much the Goon effect on this forum. GB2SA. All I'm hoping is that this forum will be less full of idiots with Goons out of the way.
confirming that we're never going to post again because our internet regions are gone
Well tbh CAOD is dead much like your alliance, you guys didnt really post until Mittani ordered you to, I welcome all spam and trolling but its been pretty dead around here, ah well we still have lolz on gf.com how you guys are going to get revenge,..
It's true I am both one year old in real life (irl) and in game (irl) and I was ordered to post (irl) by THE MITTANI (irl) I'm also dead (irl)
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Itzena
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 19:25:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle My post got reported and deleted, so I think it is safe to say Goons even feel threatened by me, lol talk about taking things too serious,.. >.>
Nah, it's just that your posting is so terrible even the mods hate it.
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Rooman
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 19:42:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Tobruk the main difference
Goonswarm won its victories without CCPs help
Confirming we only kicked you out of Fountain with Devhax intervention
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 20:35:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Emrod on 08/02/2010 20:36:55
Originally by: Jaggath
Originally by: titanstory
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
Sect1on XIII, seriously you got to be kidding me so glad you guys died in the purge last month,..
hey who are you ? did you know us ? well so you know what to do :)
Surrender like all good Frenchmen should right?
Say the racist biggot.
I guess you dont know nothing about Leo Major huh. Go do your homework and made a little reseach about him, he is a quebecker from the world war 2 era. Yes a french speaking person...you know...the kind of peoples you hate. This guy will made you change your statement about how frenchmen surrender... and you will reconsider it in a different perspective...like how hundreds of germans soldiers surrender to a sole man.
K thx bye.
COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!! |
Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 21:09:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 08/02/2010 21:12:41
The subtle difference between IT and Goons?
BoB/IT owns a lot of space and are rich while Goon are broke and homeless BoB/It allies owns a lot of space and are rich while Goon allies are broke and homeless
BoB/IT wtfbbqpwned Goon pet, PL and thier pet SOT and reduced NC to 10 systems in MAX Goon, just stop disbanding alliances
BoB/IT do not **** post, they use cool alts :) Goon measure there leetness by their ****posting and trolled there own CEO to death, honest
BoB use forums to communicate Goons are F5, bashing forum addicts, with their ômemesö and ôpoastingö count, game is secondary
BoB/IT are cool people Goons are not
EDIT oooh sniper
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 21:27:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 21:35:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
well paying money to play EvE and then spending all your time trolling COAD and the numerous other EvE related forums is bad. You need 100 good ôpoastö to join Goons and your ex CEO Khartoon was selected due to his forum activity. Guys, play the game. It is A game.
PS how is Phreeze doing in Goons these day.
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Hallax
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.02.08 22:13:00 -
[98]
When I joined EVE on my first character back in 2005, I remember BoB being big, bad, and brash. Back then, and still today, they seem like a bunch of Molle-brainwashed uberplayers. Eventually they became too big to fail and, just like Goldman Sachs, got dev-help (!!!) which to this day I don't think the Goons have ever had. That, to me, will always be a gigantic black mark on their alliance history. I can't believe people have forgotten that.
BoB/Ren/IT's treatment of regional pets has also been a source of constant derisiveness for me. The stories I have heard from both sides of the coin confirm this.
This is a game, and it should be up to the player on how 'serious' they want to be. If IT and crew want to uberpwn the galaxy - let them. Forum trolling aside, it was nice to see GS be a foil to them for a couple of years or so. I was definitely rooting for them when they invaded Delve before, and I will be rooting for anyone who wants to take IT on in the future. It does look like the back of GoonSwarm has broken, though.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 22:41:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Hallax and, just like Goldman Sachs, got dev-help (!!!)
top BoB/It characters have special dev EvE clients,
they type the tithe key then type
player.additem apocalypse "2"
and this spawn 2 apoc fully fitted. These are special dev ships which has a higher . . . everything. It a beautiful thing.
They can also spawn isk with player.additem isk "20000000"
true, you read it on COAD
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Navtiqes
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 22:55:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Navtiqes on 08/02/2010 22:55:44
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
well paying money to play EvE and then spending all your time trolling COAD and the numerous other EvE related forums is bad.
Yeah, that sub fee is really burning a hole in my pocket. Get a haircut, get a job. |
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.08 23:45:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
well paying money to play EvE and then spending all your time trolling COAD and the numerous other EvE related forums is bad.
It's worth paying two packs of cigarettes a month so I can troll sperglords who play internet spaceships.
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FatFreddy
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.08 23:59:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Hallax and, just like Goldman Sachs, got dev-help (!!!)
top BoB/It characters have special dev EvE clients,
they type the tithe key then type
player.additem apocalypse "2"
and this spawn 2 apoc fully fitted. These are special dev ships which has a higher . . . everything. It a beautiful thing.
It also has a longer . . . everything.
scnr
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lord khnrageX
Amarr Socialites Of The Crazy Horse Saloon
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Posted - 2010.02.09 00:42:00 -
[103]
The difference isnt subtle. IT actually acheived something. Goons had to use mass warfare and get so many allies to even fight well. Right after Goons killed BoB they started becoming all the things BoB supposidly was. They troll CAOD and crap and act all tough. Then they become so inactive to the point when their allies in the NC get attacked they dont do much. They react a little towards the end when PL and SOT are dieing and put up a little fight when delve was invaded. IT helped its allies. IT doesnt troll CAOD. IT defends it space and stays active. That can be proved in their early days when they where disbanded and how they swept up new territory as IT.
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Van PokerAlho
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.09 03:04:00 -
[104]
Originally by: bobIT ambition BOB/IT - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as Sys K, Linguini Romania, BLAST, Aternus, -A-, AAA Citizens, UK etc etc. Took space.
Goons - Recruited thousands of pubbies with only the faintest grasp of how to play eve, followed by an army of sycophantic pets such as ZAF, KIA, PL, NC. Took space.
I fail to see much difference, maybe differing degrees of terribleness.
NOT wise words, this are words of someone who opened is eyes for the first time just to find out that is blind.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 03:55:00 -
[105]
The main difference is what we will see in the next year, when Bob had nothing they managed to return to 0.0 flawlessly and purge a **** load of ****ty and strong alliances on the way,..
Goons who are again OPENLY recruiting (like they initially did) will most likely in a years time grief someone but even when goons were at their strongest they couldnt handle Atlas, AAA, Tri, IT or Sys-k, now that they have lost every ally what will Goons do,..
Oh thats right saying generic crap on CAOD, well until Goons say something original of their own free will, I will go on C&P at least there, people are creative,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 04:31:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 09/02/2010 04:34:46
Originally by: Mystic Turtle The main difference is what we will see in the next year, when Bob had nothing they managed to return to 0.0 flawlessly and purge a **** load of ****ty and strong alliances on the way,..
Goons who are again OPENLY recruiting (like they initially did) will most likely in a years time grief someone but even when goons were at their strongest they couldnt handle Atlas, AAA, Tri, IT or Sys-k, now that they have lost every ally what will Goons do,..
Oh thats right saying generic crap on CAOD, well until Goons say something original of their own free will, I will go on C&P at least there, people are creative,..
When we started edging into 0.0 in 2006, there was about one in fifty who could fly a capital. We're better off now than we were then, and we're actually having fun again. God knows the only thing I was doing prior to this other than ops was probing out plexes and killing officer/faction rats, which is something I can still do wherever I want so long as I exercise caution and patience. Our capital pilots are still in the game, and capital pilots in sufficient numbers are valuable.
I personally think 0.0 is going to stagnate and people are going to complain about how boring it is, but there's also the potential for massive infighting. I'm sure no one's forgotten Molle's old "ultimate goal to rule over all of 0.0" (or rule *over* those who are *in* 0.0) and now that we're out of the picture for a decent amount of time, it makes everyone a potential target after a recuperation period. The new race is going to be for supercapital numbers, and this is a race AAA and the north have a big head start in. R64 wealth aside, their CSAAs just recently started pumping out new ships - everyone else's have been running. I kind of find some hilarity in an EVE universe with 1000+ titans and even more motherships, and there's really nothing to stop it from happening now.
TL;DR: We've been screwed over before, we'll certainly get screwed over again (lol **** goons). We're also still playing, and no one can be invincible forever.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 04:56:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 09/02/2010 05:00:10
Quote: When we started edging into 0.0 in 2006, there was about one in fifty who could fly a capital.
Which is why you blued everyone even when you almost failed in Syndicate you allies saved your arse,..
Quote: We're better off now than we were then, and we're actually having fun again.
Yes yes yes, 'fun', we all know in this game by default IF Goons are doing something it is FUN, but if an enemy of Goons is doing something by default it is 'serious', do you ******s even know how stupid you sound when you use those words,..
Mittani ABUSED the word 'fun' to manipulate you, when in fact EVERYONE who is playing ANY game or in a guild, corp, team, alliance is being serious AND is having fun,..
Quote:
God knows the only thing I was doing prior to this was probing out plexes and killing officer/faction rats, which is something I can still do wherever I want so long as I exercise caution and patience.
So whats your point?,.. What exactly will Goons do now that people havent already seen, creativity would get you guys far and open recruiting will just have history repeat itself, so much for Mittanis 'new serious direction',..
Quote:
Our capital pilots are still in the game, and capital pilots in sufficient numbers are valuable.
Thanks that really explains alot,.. <sigh>
Quote: I personally think 0.0 is going to stagnate and people are going to complain about how boring it is, but there's also the potential for massive infighting.
Theres always inner strife EVERYWHERE, but in case you hadnt noticed all ex bob corps returned to form under a new banner they get along very nicely and are loyal, just get a spy in IT and you will see what I mean but I guess your overlords dont want you to know how IT are,..
Quote:
I'm sure no one's forgotten Molle's old "ultimate goal to rule over all of 0.0" (or rule *over* those who are *in* 0.0) and now that we're out of the picture for a decent amount of time, it makes everyone a potential target after a recuperation period. The new race is going to be for supercapital numbers, and this is a race AAA and the north have a big head start in.
Molle doesnt want all of 0.0, IT isnt into dictatorship and never has been, Molle just seems to excel at fleet warfare but so do many others, or have you forgotton what they gained in the past 2 months,..
But again no, IT dont want ALL of 0.0 can you imagine the upkeep,..
Quote:
R64 wealth aside, their CSAAs just recently started pumping out new ships - everyone else's have been running. I kind of find some hilarity in an EVE universe with 1000+ titans and even more motherships, and there's really nothing to stop it from happening now.
I would like some consistancy in your future replies, 'R64 aside' :S you were just talking about Molle where did R64s come into this,.. :/
Also stop what from happening,.. :S:S
Quote:
TL;DR: We've been screwed over before, we'll certainly get screwed over again (lol **** goons). We're also still playing, and no one can be invincible forever.
/CAOD Prop Off
I think I speak for everyone in 0.0 when I say I hope you guys recover and be complete ****s IN GAME and not on forums and start a NEW raging war with any strategy you seem fit.
/CAOD Prop On
No one will ever allow you rejects back in their space, where you go your enemies will follow,..
The idea is to break down in smaller corps manage differently then join back as a big alliance but if Goons wish to have their alliance run by the same 3 ******s AGAIN then I am sure they will share the same fate,..
This isnt about loyality you can still be part of the same alliance only this time actually have a say or maybe you enjoy your leaders ****ing you up all the time,..
The reason Majority of the 0.0 alliances succeed is BECAUSE they have multiple leaders, Goons have Mittani, Darius INACTIVE and xttz I mean wtf,..
TL;DR
Trial accounts wont help you again,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 05:13:00 -
[108]
We enjoy ****ting up CAOD because you do things like reply to forum posts line by line thinking it intimidates people.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 05:23:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar We enjoy ****ting up CAOD because you do things like reply to forum posts line by line thinking it intimidates people.
'We enjoy ****ting up CAOD', Kayl Brainhar - The voice of Goons,..
You do it because you are ordered, do you have any idea how many "**** up local / forums / c&p" threads have been made by your overlords,..
You guys actually thought spam would get you far,.. lol
Best thing is we WANT Goons to keep '****ting' up CAOD, this way new people to forums / game will know how clichT you guys are,..
I would say you guys are entertaining but I only compliment those that have achieved something in or out of game,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 05:32:00 -
[110]
I love how one person's posts are always conveniently served up as evidence of groupthink. I'd refute your post but I've yet to snort liquid cheese and put mustard in my eye like our Supreme Dictator Darius JOHNSON did. You know, since we all follow our overlords' examples.
You're an imbecile and you're really bad at trying to make people sperg out.
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Schani Kratnorr
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:05:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Goon You're an imbecile and you're really bad at trying to make people sperg out.
This one goon post encapsulates the difference between EVE players and the goon infestation.
(goons need not reply. I use CAOD cleaner to rid myself of their spam.)
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:11:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Originally by: Goon You're an imbecile and you're really bad at trying to make people sperg out.
This one goon post encapsulates the difference between EVE players and the goon infestation.
(goons need not reply. I use CAOD cleaner to rid myself of their spam.)
You use CAOD cleaner yet replied...you know what, never mind.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:21:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar I love how one person's posts are always conveniently served up as evidence of groupthink. I'd refute your post but I've yet to snort liquid cheese and put mustard in my eye like our Supreme Dictator Darius JOHNSON did. You know, since we all follow our overlords' examples.
You're an imbecile and you're really bad at trying to make people sperg out.
Darius may hold a title but has never contributed to Goons, all mittens did was say crap and well yeh take credit for everything, Suas led Goons but your leaders ignored his work, who really has done anything to benefit Goons?,..
Even when dbrb started to go inactive you needed to get emo plague black and phreeze to manage a 5k+ alliance, this in addition to your past mistakes are enough proof that Goons fail at doing anything themselves yet it is amazing how you are all so easily following people who havent contributed at all,..
Calling you guys terrible is an understatement, when Bob left 49- majority remained loyal Goons instead abandoned its ~brosefs~, Goons started losing members as soon as Fountain collapsed I guess those people knew who were going to get crushed next,..
You donÆt enjoy ****ting CAOD, you just have no future therefore you can only **** up CAOD to feel relevant, we can hope for Goons to recover but with the current ***s running the show that day will never come,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:32:00 -
[114]
It's nice that this forum has zero moderation, it gives bitter alts a chance to compete with us.
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Schani Kratnorr
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 06:35:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Goon You use CAOD cleaner yet replied...you know what, never mind.
Yes. I turn it off when engaging in my favorite pastime... Reporting goonposts while making ISK. I can easily turn it back on if they (you) start posting.
This thread is (was) about the difference between IT and Goons. Your rude post was a perfect example of that difference. I did report this entire thread as having "run its course," though I normally dont reply/post in threads/posts I report.
If you feel you have anything to add to the "IT - Goon comparison," by all means do so. Try not to take it personal when people like myself use your insulting posts as examples of why everyone should use CAOD cleaner.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 07:01:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Kushmir It's nice that this forum has zero moderation, it gives bitter alts a chance to compete with us.
Like anyone could destroy Trigrams Edge, many have tried all have failed,.. ;)
But since IT have killed Goons I think I will take that 'break' on CAOD that I always wanted, I think I will be back when Goons pay Molle to disband IT,..
Until MAX Mk II cya,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
SavageBastard
Caldari Igneus Auctorita SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 07:18:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle
You donÆt enjoy ****ting CAOD, you just have no future therefore you can only **** up CAOD to feel relevant, we can hope for Goons to recover but with the current ***s running the show that day will never come,..
It's true. Darius has never provided any leadership which is why, as a last resort, we have fallen to posting on CAOD. I know you all aren't used to seeing Goon posts here, as we are usually a quiet bunch that stick to our own private hookup site but with no future for us in the game...well here we are.
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Kimi PewPew
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 08:56:00 -
[118]
It's all true. The infighting, the desperation, and the fear of the future. It is almost palpable. We are a shattered alliance with no direction. The only thing we have... All we have left are our posts. They define us. Shape us. It gives us... Purpose. We've lost EVE, we musn't lose the forums.
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SirMolle
Amarr Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 11:05:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle random stuff Quote:
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
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Mystic Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.02.09 11:31:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 09/02/2010 11:32:14
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Mystic Turtle random stuff
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
Yeah I know I took things way too far, I will stop posting, but in my defence I was somewhat branded an IT / Tri / Solar / Atlas alt not by my own choice, but I went too far with my own ambition I guess,..
I was planning to stop posting anyway and I sincerely apologise if any of my 'delibrate' comments / posts made me seem like I had any affiliation with IT / Tri / Atlas / AAA etc I have no affiliation what so ever with ANY corp / alliance / powerbloc I have commented on and my comments were solely for my own personal game,..
Saying that if I do post again it will not be on any alt and it will be bull**** free,.. --
I dont speak for IT, Goons, Bob, NC, AAA, Atlas, Tri, Solar, WI PL, SoT, ZAF, lolKIA, CVA, Sys-k OR any of the other people / alliances I have commented on,..
IT killed Goons thats all,.. |
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Biffa Buttocks
Amarr Abh Empire Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.02.09 11:59:00 -
[121]
Thanks, (was no Troll BladeRunner) appreciate some of the great replies and the time people took to post and try to help.
It does clarify a few things for me, regards the differences and the not so 'difference' and hopefully useful to other more recent members of the community who maybe were not so aware of some of the 'history'.
Agreed, I think this thread has run it's course, thanks again.
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Doddy
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 13:16:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
game is secondary
How is this a bad thing?
well paying money to play EvE and then spending all your time trolling COAD and the numerous other EvE related forums is bad.
You do realise the entire goon culture is based on paying money to post on forums right? Your post was a bigger victory for them than winning a mid sized fleet engagement.
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Doddy
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 13:23:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Hallax
BoB/Ren/IT's treatment of regional pets has also been a source of constant derisiveness for me. The stories I have heard from both sides of the coin confirm this.
I am both sides of the coin and a I can confirm i treat myself very, very badly.
Also who r Ren and IT have regional pets? I should probably log in tbh.
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Raynar Alcohol
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 13:50:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Raynar Alcohol on 09/02/2010 13:50:05
Originally by: Doddy I should probably log in tbh.
Yes you should, you are even less online than me and thats nearly impossible -- Computer games dont affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music |
bobIT ambition
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.02.09 13:58:00 -
[125]
Trigrams Edge owned by SirMolle. Pure win.
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RifterDrifter
Minmatar They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.02.09 15:29:00 -
[126]
Originally by: SirMolle
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
Sure brah, totally unlike your bunch of morons who would never use forumalts for propaganda, right? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1002/forumwarriors1.jpg
Or use trialaccounts to attack hostile posses, because you would never hide behind alts. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1002/trials1.jpg _______________________________________________
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Komi Toran
Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.02.09 16:04:00 -
[127]
My impression of the difference to between the fall of BoB and the fall of Goons is that it has nothing to do with love or hate for any of the alliances, but rather the state of Eve when these things took place.
Just before BoB fell, 0.0 was pretty darn stable. The conflict between BoB and Goons had the feel of an eternal war, and few expected 0.0 to be strategically different a month or six down the road. Thus, the collapse of BoB was huge, as it was a singular event that represented the end of an era in Eve.
Goons, however, disbanded at a time when 0.0 was/is burning. PL had fallen and Goons were already being pressed by IT, NC was fighting back an invasion from TRI while Geminate fell to Atlas, and CVA got it in their heads to move on -A-. And all of this was occurring under a brand-spanking new sov system that was designed to open 0.0 up for new alliances. In this context, Goons falling does not represent anything earth-shattering in Eve. It's the effect of the balance shifting, not the cause.
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Statzicorrus Flux
Caldari Whiskey Loners The Ancients.
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Posted - 2010.02.09 16:55:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Statzicorrus Flux on 09/02/2010 16:56:23 What the response to this topic essentially prooves is the simple fact that so much propoganda and rumour surrounds BoB and GoonSwarm that NOBODY really knows what happened. BoB rose, rumours about BoB become rife, BoB fall. Goons rise, rumours about Goons become rife, Goons fall. This has happenend before. It will happen many times over.
Accusing each other of being alts, forum trolling, bickering over which of two alliances who no-one liked in their time of strength are morally good, is their really any point? In reality people will dislike whoever is in power regardless of their virtue as a group.
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NightCrawler 85
Minmatar Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.02.09 17:46:00 -
[129]
I know i shouldent post in CAOD but since this is actually one of the more intersting threads i have seen here in a long time i will take the chanse.
Now please note before i say anything that im not a fan of either Goons or Bob,but given the choise in the past,i have aligned my self with Goons.
Now Bob...I have never disagreed that Bob were good at what they were doing.They knew how to play the game. Ofc it helped that they unlike anyone else were willing to let MC use their space. Im sure that a lot of alliances at a later point regretted saying no to this. But them beeing as good as they were also caused some issues. They became selfish,and looked at them selfes as Gods. Im sure you can still find Molles old interview were he states that their main goal is to take all of 0.0. Well...im sure this is actually what they wanted,and then we would have to spend more time kissing their feets then we already have done. Im sorry but i dont like it when people think that you "have" to like them because they look at them selfes as something better then you (even if that is the case). Exept this..Their obvius lack of caring about renters or allies.This is why they lost so much of their support during the New Eden War. Even MC became fed up with how they acted,and saw which way things were going after they started to mass kick allies.
Now to Goons. I wont lie and say that you guys have made life hell for more then one EVE player. You have certanly made a reputation were everyone know to avoid you as much as they possibly can and gotten settled with the fact that there is no decent Goon members. Making fun of a highly respected eve player that died in real life just because he was in Bob is low. Jumping into random RIP threads and claim your related and that people should donate ISK to you to accomplish a goal said person had ingame... There is a limit. But i also do realize that out of the thousands of members you guys had running trough,there will be *******s with no respect. The same can be seen here on the forums. You will see a certain amount of Goon members post ****,but the only reason its a higher amount of them then others,is because they have/had 10 times the amounts of people.
But,i have seen Goons work,and i have seen Bob work. They both have accomplished some great things,and both of them have a rather..dodgy (sp) past.
As a few examples: Bob T20 (who can forget) Endless bragging on the forums whenever forum bans are lifted (especially when they killed the first Titan while it was offline) Treating its pets badly and with a complete lack of respect And ofc the whole mess with POS bowling which was completely legit as long as Bob did it but was banned when Goons did the same thing.
Goons No respect for anyone outside their communety Abusing noobs that dont know better then to listen to a Goon. Making fun of people who have died in real life knowing it will hurt peoples feelings when they cant find some better way to smack talk. Spamming the forums with junk and frustrating both the readers and the poor mods. Making life miserable for any empire miners (Ok..even as a carebear i can see the fun in this event) In general just makes life a hell for anyone around.
But,on a personal scale,having talked with both Goons and Bob members in private,i have to admit that Goons are way nicer to be around,and you know you can atleast joke around them. With Bob it all becomes "im so awesome" it seems... Im sorry to see two bigg alliances go,and even if they have reformed under new names i will always remember them as one of the main reason i started to get interested in politics...So..Thank you to the both of you for some great times,and hopefully now i can stop tearing my hair out since (in my opinion) the war that started so many years ago,are finally over.
PS. To those of you who pointed out that Bob have Devs in the alliance.Im sure that 90% of the bigger alliances out there has atleast ONE :)
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Douglas Pearce
Caldari Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:06:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 09/02/2010 11:32:14
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Mystic Turtle random stuff
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
Yeah I know I took things way too far, I will stop posting, but in my defence I was somewhat branded an IT / Tri / Solar / Atlas alt not by my own choice, but I went too far with my own ambition I guess,..
I was planning to stop posting anyway and I sincerely apologise if any of my 'delibrate' comments / posts made me seem like I had any affiliation with IT / Tri / Atlas / AAA etc I have no affiliation what so ever with ANY corp / alliance / powerbloc I have commented on and my comments were solely for my own personal game,..
Saying that if I do post again it will not be on any alt and it will be bull**** free,..
boohooohooohooo
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:14:00 -
[131]
Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 09/02/2010 19:14:18
Originally by: Mystic Turtle Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 09/02/2010 11:32:14
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Mystic Turtle random stuff
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
Yeah I know I took things way too far, I will stop posting, but in my defence I was somewhat branded an IT / Tri / Solar / Atlas alt not by my own choice, but I went too far with my own ambition I guess,..
I was planning to stop posting anyway and I sincerely apologise if any of my 'delibrate' comments / posts made me seem like I had any affiliation with IT / Tri / Atlas / AAA etc I have no affiliation what so ever with ANY corp / alliance / powerbloc I have commented on and my comments were solely for my own personal game,..
Saying that if I do post again it will not be on any alt and it will be bull**** free,..
Since quoting Youtube links to "burn" people seems to be the "new thing" on CAOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-FRRagAxY
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Nobani
Minmatar Merch Industrial SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 19:34:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Mystic Turtle Edited by: Mystic Turtle on 09/02/2010 11:32:14
Originally by: SirMolle
Originally by: Mystic Turtle random stuff
Until you have the balls to not hide behind some silly alt, i would stop posting all together.
Alts has never had a say in what we do, or will do, or how we think.
People trying to be clever and hiding behind alts, is just.. weak. Thank your for staying the f away from anything that has to do with us, you are *not* speaking on our behalf, and you never will.
Be a man, and use your main, or put a sock in it.
Yeah I know I took things way too far, I will stop posting, but in my defence I was somewhat branded an IT / Tri / Solar / Atlas alt not by my own choice, but I went too far with my own ambition I guess,..
I was planning to stop posting anyway and I sincerely apologise if any of my 'delibrate' comments / posts made me seem like I had any affiliation with IT / Tri / Atlas / AAA etc I have no affiliation what so ever with ANY corp / alliance / powerbloc I have commented on and my comments were solely for my own personal game,..
Saying that if I do post again it will not be on any alt and it will be bull**** free,..
You might want to back up a bit. You're getting some brown on your nose.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.09 21:06:00 -
[133]
Guys how is the Mittani, the Goons very own spymaster, licenced to post.
I think he really wanted to lord over the Goons just before kartoon returned. How did that go?
Who is the man in charge?
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.09 22:55:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 09/02/2010 22:56:06
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Guys how is the Mittani, the Goons very own spymaster, licenced to post.
I think he really wanted to lord over the Goons just before kartoon returned. How did that go?
Who is the man in charge?
Actually, Mittani is/was a horrible CEO - he's usually the first to admit that. But when the **** hit the fan he was really the only person coordinating anything. So despite past horrible-ness, he stepped up. But don't let that get in the way of your blind hatred and misinformation.
As for who's in charge - it's a guy who snorts liquid cheese and puts mustard in his eye. We're so lucky.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.10 01:19:00 -
[135]
Kayl I don't think it's blind hatred that you are witnessing here, I think its more of a clear understanding by most that goons never had anything to offer the game. Goons only showed themselves to be a group of angry nerds on a ingame rampage after the ghosts of BoB past. After Hags button click NC/PL capitalized on your rage numbers by using you as a weapon against a BoB. Once NC/PL got thier revenge they tossed you aside and wanted nothing more to do with you...
The best thing that could have ever happened to BoB was the disband. Its not often you get to build a 5,000 man Alliance from the ground up using lessons learned from past mistakes, the chance to incorporate new game mechanics, and the pick of almost any region as your foundation.
Solardrkerdamsolerdrkenbanana will never be anything more than a bunch of rage filled nerds huddled together looking for someone to vent thier RL frustration on......good luck with that.... . Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 02:02:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Snot Shot Solardrkerdamsolerdrkenbanana will never be anything more than a bunch of rage filled nerds huddled together looking for someone to vent thier RL frustration on......good luck with that....
I thought Privateers already had this perfected.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 03:21:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Snot Shot Kayl I don't think it's blind hatred that you are witnessing here, I think its more of a clear understanding by most that goons never had anything to offer the game. Goons only showed themselves to be a group of angry nerds on a ingame rampage after the ghosts of BoB past. After Hags button click NC/PL capitalized on your rage numbers by using you as a weapon against a BoB. Once NC/PL got thier revenge they tossed you aside and wanted nothing more to do with you...
The best thing that could have ever happened to BoB was the disband. Its not often you get to build a 5,000 man Alliance from the ground up using lessons learned from past mistakes, the chance to incorporate new game mechanics, and the pick of almost any region as your foundation.
Solardrkerdamsolerdrkenbanana will never be anything more than a bunch of rage filled nerds huddled together looking for someone to vent thier RL frustration on......good luck with that.... .
OH NOES MY MORALE!!!
seriously this is a pretty weak effort
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Shade Millith
Caldari International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.02.10 08:31:00 -
[138]
Goons, IT
IT, Goons
Different faeces, similar smell. One has a hint of "stick up the arse, better than thou", and the other has a waft of "****posting" (though TBH, this is hardly a Goon only thing. IT members are just as likely to stink up a thread)
Goons just seem to have more fun doing it --------------------------------------------
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Ivan Shenovich
Caldari Igneus Auctorita SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 08:32:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Darek Castigatus IT/BOB/Kenzoku - Snotty Arrogant Tosswads who take things far too seriously Goonswarm - Uber annoying racist, mysoginistic forum trolls who at least sounded like they were having fun
regrettably my vote has to go to goons. Personally i think eve would be better off without the pair of them.
Pretty much emptyquoting this. Goons are terrible, IT is somehow worse and as a rank and file goon I am bewildered as to how they can be worse. We lost Delve because CCP changed the Sov system to something that required competent management, and no other reason. :D
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.10 08:40:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Shade Millith Goons, IT
IT, Goons
Different faeces, similar smell. One has a hint of "stick up the arse, better than thou", and the other has a waft of "****posting" (though TBH, this is hardly a Goon only thing. IT members are just as likely to stink up a thread)
Goons just seem to have more fun doing it
That's the big difference, Goons play the forums, IT play the actul game. Did you know that you have to pay to join there Goons forum, before you can join there in-game goons corp. Its all about the "clever" posting with goons
Which is why when Bob got disbanded they reform as the most powerful alliance in Eve (regular 200 man cap fleets) When goons get disbanded, they go to syndicate. Jita would have been better imo.
Biggest mistake was Mittani ordering a withdrawal instead of a full regroup when sov fell. Could have been a hero instead of a zero.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 08:59:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Shade Millith Goons, IT
IT, Goons
Different faeces, similar smell. One has a hint of "stick up the arse, better than thou", and the other has a waft of "****posting" (though TBH, this is hardly a Goon only thing. IT members are just as likely to stink up a thread)
Goons just seem to have more fun doing it
That's the big difference, Goons play the forums, IT play the actul game. Did you know that you have to pay to join there Goons forum, before you can join there in-game goons corp. Its all about the "clever" posting with goons
Which is why when Bob got disbanded they reform as the most powerful alliance in Eve (regular 200 man cap fleets) When goons get disbanded, they go to syndicate. Jita would have been better imo.
Biggest mistake was Mittani ordering a withdrawal instead of a full regroup when sov fell. Could have been a hero instead of a zero.
We don't "pay" to use GF.com. Most members have a somethingawful.com account, which is 10 bucks. Goonfleet doesn't get that cash, a greedy guy named Richard Kyanka does. If you get sponsored into GF, you don't have to be an SA member. The only time we "pay" for GF.com is when SOLODRAKBAN tells us he needs money to maintain them, and participation in any server drive is always optional.
Your stunning armchair general advice aside, Delve's key system is NOL and the constellation it's in, and between NOL and J-L, those were both of our market hubs/bases. Staying would've meant losing untold billions of member personal wealth on top of the massive **** goons Kart pulled when he got back (which would've made any losses incurred unreimbursable). Losing personal wealth causes people to leave games. So rather than a straight crippling headshot, leaving Delve was a bullet to the kneecap.
And IT had a decent adjustment period as well post-Haargoth. The way you type it makes it sound like the 6-8 months it took them to reform and take space happened in a week. And the reason we went to Syndicate is because if you let us loose on Empire and call it a "home," we'll get bored. We still lose people on ops in Empire when 0.0 natives open fire on hostiles because they don't remember the CONCORD or sentry gun rules.
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Ivan Shenovich
Caldari Igneus Auctorita SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.10 08:59:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Shade Millith Goons, IT
IT, Goons
Different faeces, similar smell. One has a hint of "stick up the arse, better than thou", and the other has a waft of "****posting" (though TBH, this is hardly a Goon only thing. IT members are just as likely to stink up a thread)
Goons just seem to have more fun doing it
That's the big difference, Goons play the forums, IT play the actul game. Did you know that you have to pay to join there Goons forum, before you can join there in-game goons corp. Its all about the "clever" posting with goons
Which is why when Bob got disbanded they reform as the most powerful alliance in Eve (regular 200 man cap fleets) When goons get disbanded, they go to syndicate. Jita would have been better imo.
Biggest mistake was Mittani ordering a withdrawal instead of a full regroup when sov fell. Could have been a hero instead of a zero.
-wrong -wrong -Goons are lazy. No secret here.
IT alt spotted, thanks for the out.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.10 10:06:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Tobruk old, bitter and pathetic whine
Some ppl never change.
I remember when goons invaded cloud ring, after a long build-up in syndicate. Their first attempt to claim non-npc space. Everybody laughed at their effort. I said already then that they would grow a decent opponent in a year or so. Shortly after they joined as meat shield for RA and grew bigger. Around this "age" i used to think Goons were fun at most parts,(except the mocking of a rl dead person).
The former BoB wasnt particularly popular from the northern perspective. Mostly due to getting beaten everytime they came to the north. Each time a BoB freighter was spotted everybody screamed like a bunch of pussies. Everybody yelled metagaming and cheating at them, when in fact we (i was part of north at that time) did exactly the same as them most of the time. That included pos bowling, obtaining pos passwords, the logoffski aggro and gank etc etc. Anyone claiming we didnt, was either a) not there, or b) full of ****.
At that time BoB was less popular than ever (as i remember it) and then the T20 affair came up. I wasnt in bob at that time, but up north. A few bpo's (of no big value in the larger scale)was spawned by t20 and given to Bob iircc (funny thing is that even with that the north prolly had a higher amount of t2 bpo compared to bob). The enemies of BoB used this for what it was worth to smear their worst and most feared enemy. This was their chance to weaken BoBs strenght. The propaganda was crazy and suddenly everyone and their kitchen sink hated bob.
To cut it down a bit (being out of the north vs south loop for a while). First invasion of delve failed horribly. Goons slowly became what BoB used to be on the forums (and hated for it), and when BoB finally fell (again metagaming, as much as bob did back in the day) everybody gloated. Especially goons and Rzr (mostly goons) turned into everything they hated BoB for. It was terrible to see what i used to align with turn into such ass wipes.
And now ppl are surprised that the former bob crew is gloating back. The difference lies in the fact that after reforming IT Alliance has used pure tactics with no metaganming during the purging of fountain and delve, whilst the enemies has used their old tactics with smack, failed propaganda and hurley'ing their own ppl. You can claim that the tcu bug was a deliberate attempt, but it wasnt. As much as we can claim you deliberatly timed yours tocome out during downtime and reset.
PL failed horribly and Goons just failed.
Long story short. Goons turned into what BoB used to be, and former BoB reformed into something better.
And still some ppl whine about T20; read Tobruk, but then again he always whine on caod.
The timelines might be a bit off, but the essence is how i recall it from what used to be my perspective.
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Shade Millith
Caldari International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.02.10 10:34:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane That's the big difference, Goons play the forums, IT play the actul game.
BOB had a habit of playing the forums too. I remember several longwinded egotistical speaches by Molle/BOB. Personally I'd prefer the Goons ****posting. At least sometimes it's amusing.
Quote: Did you know that you have to pay to join there Goons forum, before you can join there in-game goons corp. Its all about the "clever" posting with goons
I thought it was common knowlage. You have to be an ACTUAL Goon from SomethingAwful.com to get into Goonfleet. Makes sense
Quote: Which is why when Bob got disbanded they reform as the most powerful alliance in Eve (regular 200 man cap fleets) When goons get disbanded, they go to syndicate. Jita would have been better imo.
Bob fought for a while then left to empire, and nobody heard a peep from them for 6 months. You make it sound like Bob sprung back up after 2 weeks
Goons have been disbanded for a total of a week, so no **** they haven't made a "Glorious comeback". Bob one week after being disbanded were trying to have Kenzoku renamed, while they lost sov left and right --------------------------------------------
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Anton Halas
Caldari Brotherhood of endless torment
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Posted - 2010.02.10 18:04:00 -
[145]
Goons were nasty toons.They put there nose in everyone else business.Goons like to talk trash.The true goon came out when sov droped.They ran for the hills.No fight in them.That is the true goon.Only get in a fights when your jumping on. example IRC/ED -RA drone wars. Goons had 104 corps and over 5,500 toons. were are they?GONE.It was like a neighborhood of thugs that scattered when the muscle came in.keep your eyes out.goons will be in jita killing noobs.lol
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.11 01:20:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Le Cardinal hard to comprehend English.
none of what you said changes what I said. goons won without ccps help, you never have.
ccp beat us for you by patching the game. its why you didn't invade until a week before dominion and stuck to lowsec before then. the one time you did leave low sec you lost 120 dreads and then lost every subsequent capital engagement with PL except y2 which ccp has now admitted was caused by a bug.
goons beat goons by falling victim to their own stupidity and ccps new patch mechanics.
oh yea and all this stuff too:
BOBreloaded
titan pos bumping
aurora
msn
cynojamer/titan over load
titan memorial special treatment
killing titans with aggro
running broken missions with freighters and titan bridges
broken trusec running
broken 10/10 plexrunning
Pos Ferrogel expoliting
pre patch GM tipoffs
Kugu ban
unique ship awards
gross favortisim in allaince tournament prize values.
on and on and on
It took all of us to beat BOB but we beat you fair and square. BOB has, in any incarnation, yet to win a single fight without CCPs assistance. Often its taken mass outcries to stop them from giving you support (BOB reloaded). In my mind thats the biggest difference between BOB and GoonSwarm.
you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter and I have been playing this game since 03 - but the only thing pathetic is cheating at video game. I'd also add that it is unfair to cast all former BOB players as guilty for the T20 thing (and the other stuff too) you have some quality members, but thats about it. ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 01:48:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Tobruk ****
U mad? Too bad.
The truth will set you free
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Le Cardinal hard to comprehend English.
none of what you said changes what I said. goons won without ccps help, you never have.
ccp beat us for you by patching the game. its why you didn't invade until a week before dominion and stuck to lowsec before then. the one time you did leave low sec you lost 120 dreads and then lost every subsequent capital engagement with PL except y2 which ccp has now admitted was caused by a bug.
goons beat goons by falling victim to their own stupidity and ccps new patch mechanics.
oh yea and all this stuff too:
BOBreloaded
titan pos bumping
aurora
msn
cynojamer/titan over load
titan memorial special treatment
killing titans with aggro
running broken missions with freighters and titan bridges
broken trusec running
broken 10/10 plexrunning
Pos Ferrogel expoliting
pre patch GM tipoffs
Kugu ban
unique ship awards
gross favortisim in allaince tournament prize values.
on and on and on
It took all of us to beat BOB but we beat you fair and square. BOB has, in any incarnation, yet to win a single fight without CCPs assistance. Often its taken mass outcries to stop them from giving you support (BOB reloaded). In my mind thats the biggest difference between BOB and GoonSwarm.
you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter and I have been playing this game since 03 - but the only thing pathetic is cheating at video game. I'd also add that it is unfair to cast all former BOB players as guilty for the T20 thing (and the other stuff too) you have some quality members, but thats about it.
You seem pretty mad. It's just a stupid game, don't take it too seriously.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 03:56:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Tobruk Whaaaaa!!! CCP took away the "I Win Button" and the only thing that made PL relevant...
Go back to your hole in low sec now!!! SOLABDAKENBLABOBANANA will call you soon to lead them again.....
btw.....nice job getting tossed out of Fountain like a rag doll.. . Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.11 04:08:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Tobruk Whaaaaa!!! CCP took away the "I Win Button" and the only thing that made PL relevant...
Go back to your hole in low sec now!!! SOLABDAKENBLABOBANANA will call you soon to lead them again.....
btw.....nice job getting tossed out of Fountain like a rag doll.. .
And i thought i was mad... ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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Cubana69
Minmatar New European Regiment Muppets Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 05:13:00 -
[151]
The only relevant fact about goons beeing gone:
Quote: They ruined the game for those that wanted to kill them.
Was a sad day. Enjoyed farming them tho.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:01:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Le Cardinal on 11/02/2010 08:02:16
Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Le Cardinal hard to comprehend English.
stuff
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:20:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
This is the link to the t20 incident that was proven to be true. Please show me some proof that any alliance other than BoB (IT Alliance) has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:28:00 -
[154]
Well, this whole incident has proven one thing pretty conclusively - everyone who ever unironically ever uttered the phrase "Devswarm" as justification of their past losses against us is a complete and utter fool.
Also, over/under on the dissolution of the CSM, the "reassigning" of Arkanen, the firing of Stoffer nee Soundwave, the return of Aurora, and a prompt "re-assessment" of R64 values, anyone? Taking bets.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:46:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
This is the link to the t20 incident that was proven to be true. Please show me some proof that any alliance other than BoB (IT Alliance) has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
If you look at my first post you will see i brought that up. It was proven true, but it was proven true that t20 broke the eula, not anyone else. If CCP had proof that single individuals in BoB broke the eula then they would have been banned. As far as i recall that didnt happen. Regardless of that, i think the t20 discussion is history. Its a boring discussion cause its been brought up a thousand times. And people like Tobruk still use it. Each time i see the name T20 i wanna throw up. We are IT Alliance now and see my first post for my point of view on that matter. Oh and 1 more thing. As for your request for proof. My point exactly. T20 broke the rules. Not BoB. I cannot prove that any other alliance have broke the eula as much as you cant prove that anyone but T20 did it.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 08:54:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Way to go with attacking my english skills. Not everyone here is native-english speaking. I guess it just proves my point that you sir are a complete and utterly whiner on this forum.
As for you arguments. You sound awfully mad. They are history. All those you listed can probably be used against every major alliance in this game, or against single individuals within them.If you think PL, NC or any entity has done otherwise then you are blinded by your bitterness or just plain ignorant. You chose which one.
Now tell me, was this english good enough for you?
edit: fail quoting
This is the link to the t20 incident that was proven to be true. Please show me some proof that any alliance other than BoB (IT Alliance) has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
If you look at my first post you will see i brought that up. It was proven true, but it was proven true that t20 broke the eula, not anyone else. If CCP had proof that single individuals in BoB broke the eula then they would have been banned. As far as i recall that didnt happen. Regardless of that, i think the t20 discussion is history. Its a boring discussion cause its been brought up a thousand times. And people like Tobruk still use it. Each time i see the name T20 i wanna throw up. We are IT Alliance now and see my first post for my point of view on that matter. Oh and 1 more thing. As for your request for proof. My point exactly. T20 broke the rules. Not BoB. I cannot prove that any other alliance have broke the eula as much as you cant prove that anyone but T20 did it.
You are part of a corporation that was a major player in Band of Brothers, nobody in this game will ever forget that your alliance had direct developer support. Nobody cares what you call your current incarnation, you will always be remembered as Band of Brothers, an alliance led by cheaters and hypocrites.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.11 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 11/02/2010 09:22:41 Actually, the T20 case is pretty good example of how to conduct a strawman defense. You put out a mea culpa, confess to minor yet still illegal things, an example being the "the BPOs weren't even all that good" line that I've seen many times from former BoB/Kenny/IT vets, get people to focus on that since it's a concrete piece of information, and brush the dirtier stuff under the rug for eternity and let time make it deniable urban legend (such as the RP events of old where an NPC faction like Serpentis would "invade" Delve in officer and deadspace-fitted ships, and almost no place else - the single time a Nyx got caught in the wrong part of Syndicate being an exception).
The "dirty" part of the T20 scandal that never really got much attention (apart from the "Band of Developers" knock), via misdirection of attention again, was that if he spawned them for his own profit, that's one thing. But given that they were spawned for the use of RKK/BoB, there had to be suspicion or outright knowledge of his Dev status to, at the very least, RKK's CEO if not as high as Molle himself (MSN/Batphone, lol). Let's face it - if you cheat, and you know you can get away with it, you're *going* to brag about it - developer or not, it's a guy playing an MMO - people want to be or appear "important." But again, falling on the sword, admitting to wrongdoing, coupled with the opaqueness of operation of CCP at the time, makes the attention fall on the admitted guilty party, and makes everyone else involved able to wag their fingers ceremoniously and claim they never had a clue that some guy who managed to win the T2 BPO lottery a minimum of six times was a Dev.
Of course, even if there was evidence, I'm sure the logs would've shown nothing.
Also, to any devs that might be reading this thread, is NOL's station ID still "itsminebeyotches" instead of a random alphanumeric ID?
TL;DR version: T20's confession was a very nicely handled event that effectively mitigated all the potentially more scandalous now-urban-legend stuff BoB got/may have gotten in the days before anyone really gave a damn behind a thick screen of "no one's gonna say ****."
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Estios
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 11:00:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Le Cardinal hard to comprehend English.
none of what you said changes what I said. goons won without ccps help, you never have.
ccp beat us for you by patching the game. its why you didn't invade until a week before dominion and stuck to lowsec before then. the one time you did leave low sec you lost 120 dreads and then lost every subsequent capital engagement with PL except y2 which ccp has now admitted was caused by a bug.
goons beat goons by falling victim to their own stupidity and ccps new patch mechanics.
oh yea and all this stuff too:
BOBreloaded
titan pos bumping
aurora
msn
cynojamer/titan over load
titan memorial special treatment
killing titans with aggro
running broken missions with freighters and titan bridges
broken trusec running
broken 10/10 plexrunning
Pos Ferrogel expoliting
pre patch GM tipoffs
Kugu ban
unique ship awards
gross favortisim in allaince tournament prize values.
on and on and on
It took all of us to beat BOB but we beat you fair and square. BOB has, in any incarnation, yet to win a single fight without CCPs assistance. Often its taken mass outcries to stop them from giving you support (BOB reloaded). In my mind thats the biggest difference between BOB and GoonSwarm.
you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter and I have been playing this game since 03 - but the only thing pathetic is cheating at video game. I'd also add that it is unfair to cast all former BOB players as guilty for the T20 thing (and the other stuff too) you have some quality members, but thats about it.
dude, this post is pretty epically bad, like REALLY bad. The original BoB won almost EVERY engagement and you know this because early BoB was the same players who schooled you and your corp countless times when you were CA hangers on (many moons after CA was any good) still bleating on about the dark lord.
Do you REALLY think CCP invest their time to change a game with a subscription base of hundreds of thousands to suit a few hundred players?
U mad !!, a lot.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 11:51:00 -
[159]
Tobruk:
oh yea and all this stuff too:
BOBreloaded - agree, hasty decision by gms. Might have happened with any entity. Never happened in eve where it had such an impact on map. + there was lots of confusion about how it happened.
titan pos bumping - hahah. Like they were unique. I saw NC do exactly the same. Ive seen PL do it countless of times. Stop riding on your shiny white horse.
aurora - Not sure what you refer to.
msn - If you refer to being in touch with GMs or DEVs im sure there are tons of ppl that have them on msn. Natural thing when you know people in reallife. I have a senior developer of another game on msn. Gosh, never thought that would make me a cheater.
cynojamer/titan over load : PL
titan memorial special treatment: If you refer to Cyvoks titan it was the first titan ever killed in eve, so it was in fact a historical moment and bob wasnt the only one asking for it.
killing titans with aggro - Within gamemechanics. Like noone ever does that.
running broken missions with freighters and titan bridges - You must refer to the trading thingy. Where they bought stuff in curse and sold in venal. In addition they used titan bridges Now that was something never ever seen in eve neither before or after. Oh wait...
broken trusec running - eh?
broken 10/10 plexrunning - haha. BoB was without doubt the only ones farmin 10/10s.
Pos Ferrogel expoliting - If you werent so blinded by your hatred of BoB you would be able to remember that only a few were banned from that incident and they were in an entirely different alliance.
pre patch GM tipoffs - proof or stfu.
Kugu ban - good riddance. With the kind of info hes achieved and with the kind of methods hes used there is no doubt in my mind that hes been hacking sites. And that is a crime.
unique ship awards - PL, mimir for one. Probably name others too if i could bother. Selective memory much?
gross favortisim in allaince tournament prize values - right... PL
on and on and on - Oh come on. More stuff please.
"It took all of us to beat BOB but we beat you fair and square" - hahahah, took you just as much metagaming as anyone else. "BOB has, in any incarnation, yet to win a single fight without CCPs assistance" - laffo. Selective memory much. I remember a time when everyone ran when bob came. Until numbers proved more than skills.
"you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter and I have been playing this game since 03" - Oh ive been playing this game since beginning of -04. Im not bitter. Its a videogame after all, and if you cease having fun its better to quit.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.11 16:58:00 -
[160]
The thing I love best about this thread is how Goonies and PL are frantically trying to jump start the old ôBoB=Badö propaganda machineà. BoB is gone and you guys are still acting like video game **** victims stuck in your own emotional prisons. WhatÆs it going to take for that door to swing open and finally set you free?..
Tobruk, I think ~mad was what you were way back in 04 or 05àà. at this point it looks like you are actually just furious over getting stomped on by the old BoB and still chasing their ghost. You might want to let it go or move on to another gameà..just sayin..
Just remember, PL was only ever allowed to play with the ôbig boysö because of the AOE DD and goonies were only ever allowed to play in 0.0 when otehr Alliances carried them. Otherwise the two alliances are as useless as **** on a bullàà .
Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
BAM!! HEAD SHOT!!! |
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Itzena
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 00:49:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Snot Shot Otherwise the two alliances are as useless as **** on a bullàà
If ever a sentence demanded a MLYP it's this one.
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Khara Kleib
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:08:00 -
[162]
you just jealous you dont wake up everyday with a free t2 bpo, like all IT members do, even cyno alts.
t20 lives
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 01:56:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Khara Kleib t20 lives
Of course he does. As I recall he wasn't even fired, he just quit later on. For all anyone knows he's still around under a new dev name and no one would be the wiser.
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PHPR Freighter
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:37:00 -
[164]
I was in Lotka Volterra when RSF had assualted them. I have seen alot in my days. Lotka Volterra was aided by BoB, RISE, etc etc near the end when 1k+ pilots were swarming JV1. Since then I have asked all the corps/alliances if I can go shoot goons, blue or not. because I flat out hated them.
I will always root for BoB/Kenny/IT.. red or not. -------- I am Anti-Macro, I am Anti-Roadkill, I am Anti-Asshats. This is just personal standings, not those of any corps or alliances I may join.
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Forum Superhero
Caldari Echo Roaming Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.12 02:51:00 -
[165]
Biffa. You have it all wrong, mate. When Band of Brothers/KenZoku was originally defeated by the entire game of EVE Online, everyone laughed and mocked them. Everyone was expecting the Goons to fail. The difference is BoB fell 20x harder than the more recent Goonie failurism. At least they admitted they were horrible.
IT Alliance still denies they fail even though all they are is a failblob.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 03:03:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Forum Superhero Biffa. You have it all wrong, mate. When Band of Brothers/KenZoku was originally defeated by the entire game of EVE Online, everyone laughed and mocked them. Everyone was expecting the Goons to fail. The difference is BoB fell 20x harder than the more recent Goonie failurism. At least they admitted they were horrible.
IT Alliance still denies they fail even though all they are is a failblob.
Pretty much this. EVE is basically one giant cycle of failure. Inevitably failure catches up with you, either by apathy (PL) or incompetence (BoB and us). Then it's just a matter of who's capable of capitalizing on said failure the quickest.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 04:20:00 -
[167]
Originally by: PHPR Freighter I was in Lotka Volterra when RSF had assualted them. I have seen alot in my days. Lotka Volterra was aided by BoB, RISE, etc etc near the end when 1k+ pilots were swarming JV1. Since then I have asked all the corps/alliances if I can go shoot goons, blue or not. because I flat out hated them.
I will always root for BoB/Kenny/IT.. red or not.
You appear to be an NC pet. http://standings.morsus-mihi.org/
Also, how can you rent from ME?
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Tayler Derden
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.12 07:57:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 08:06:26 Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 08:05:59 Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 07:58:15
Originally by: Le Cardinal
T20 broke the rules. Not BoB. I cannot prove that any other alliance have broke the eula as much as you cant prove that anyone but T20 did it.
sounds like you dont want this bpo's anyway
oh and by the look on kartoon final post i thought he disbanding goons becouse he sick of ******ed people, while molle only took space becouse he recruited lots of ******ed people here come the difference
edit: lol didnt post for ages, still got old sig
btw you know what? i really feel sorry for molle and his band of clowns their dream was to kill ebil goons with own hands but all they got is nerfed delve
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 08:28:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Tayler Derden Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 08:06:26 Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 08:05:59 Edited by: Tayler Derden on 12/02/2010 07:58:15
Originally by: Le Cardinal
T20 broke the rules. Not BoB. I cannot prove that any other alliance have broke the eula as much as you cant prove that anyone but T20 did it.
sounds like you dont want this bpo's anyway
oh and by the look on kartoon final post i thought he disbanding goons becouse he sick of ******ed people, while molle only took space becouse he recruited lots of ******ed people here come the difference
edit: lol didnt post for ages, still got old sig
btw you know what? i really feel sorry for molle and his band of clowns their dream was to kill ebil goons with own hands but all they got is nerfed delve
The funny part is that even tho our gimmick is clowns, PL and Goons ended up like one. All the smack your alliance mates managed to spew on the forum completely backfired.
But regardless of our disagreement, we hold delve and fountain with help of dedication and good allies.
You dont.
Id love to discuss this further, but we will probably never agree anyways so its just a waste of time :)
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Tayler Derden
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.12 10:00:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Le Cardinal
The funny part is that even tho our gimmick is clowns, PL and Goons ended up like one. All the smack your alliance mates managed to spew on the forum completely backfired.
You see, Molle should clean us out of Fountain about year and a half ago but he sent GBC. GBC got slaughtered (i think twice), we made insane ammount of money and got a headshot on his alliance. Im pretty sure its not us who are clowns here
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Buxaroo
Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:00:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Tayler Derden
Originally by: Le Cardinal
The funny part is that even tho our gimmick is clowns, PL and Goons ended up like one. All the smack your alliance mates managed to spew on the forum completely backfired.
You see, Molle should clean us out of Fountain about year and a half ago but he sent GBC. GBC got slaughtered (i think twice), we made insane ammount of money and got a headshot on his alliance. Im pretty sure its not us who are clowns here
You know who PL and goons remind me of? That restaurant owner in "Coming to America" who was ripping off McDonalds by modeling his eatery to match McD's so he didn't have to pay the rightful owners of the franchise.
Well, Ronald McDonald just came a knockin'. But this time the impostor shot himself in the foot before 'ole Ronnie was able to stick his foot up his ass. So who is the real clown here?
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Rooman
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:28:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Tobruk -snip- emo stuff - snip - you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter
never stop posting, you are like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. You are right about one thing, you sure are one butthurt emo bitter sook
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bobIT ambition
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.02.12 11:51:00 -
[173]
So much anger
Listen PL are better at PVP, IT better at sov warfare and politics. I would've thought that as PL just want :goodfights: and IT want to hold space everyone would now be happy. Why all this bitterness?
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 12:33:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Buxaroo
Originally by: Tayler Derden
Originally by: Le Cardinal
The funny part is that even tho our gimmick is clowns, PL and Goons ended up like one. All the smack your alliance mates managed to spew on the forum completely backfired.
You see, Molle should clean us out of Fountain about year and a half ago but he sent GBC. GBC got slaughtered (i think twice), we made insane ammount of money and got a headshot on his alliance. Im pretty sure its not us who are clowns here
You know who PL and goons remind me of? That restaurant owner in "Coming to America" who was ripping off McDonalds by modeling his eatery to match McD's so he didn't have to pay the rightful owners of the franchise.
Well, Ronald McDonald just came a knockin'. But this time the impostor shot himself in the foot before 'ole Ronnie was able to stick his foot up his ass. So who is the real clown here?
All of you.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:47:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Buxaroo You know who PL and goons remind me of? That restaurant owner in "Coming to America" who was ripping off McDonalds by modeling his eatery to match McD's so he didn't have to pay the rightful owners of the franchise.
Well, Ronald McDonald just came a knockin'. But this time the impostor shot himself in the foot before 'ole Ronnie was able to stick his foot up his ass. So who is the real clown here?
This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
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Buxaroo
Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 19:57:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Buxaroo on 12/02/2010 19:58:33
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Nah, Molle doesn't have to kick us cus of my horrible poasting, he can just wait for us to forget to put the isk in the right wallet and let us drop sov in half the systems.
ps, I'll take horrible posting and actually playing the game than gr8t posting and being horrible at the game any day just sayin'
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 20:47:00 -
[177]
Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 20:47:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:50:02 Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:49:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Sorry guys, only sov holding alliances are allowed to post comment here.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
and you too, no sov, no posting here. Posting here is for the big boys only, not for every minor empire corps.
especially those with silly alliance names
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 12/02/2010 20:55:53
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:50:02 Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:49:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Sorry guys, only sov holding alliances are allowed to post comment here.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
and you too, no sov, no posting here. Posting here is for the big boys only, not for every minor empire corps.
especially those with silly alliance names
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Elysium_Alliance
Stones. Glass houses. Yadda yadda yadda, etc, etc, etc.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 21:19:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 21:20:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 12/02/2010 20:55:53
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:50:02 Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:49:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Sorry guys, only sov holding alliances are allowed to post comment here.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
and you too, no sov, no posting here. Posting here is for the big boys only, not for every minor empire corps.
especially those with silly alliance names
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Elysium_Alliance
Stones. Glass houses. Yadda yadda yadda, etc, etc, etc.
dude you do not have to reply to every post. If you log in to game more often, and have had as much activity in-game as you have posting, you corp wont be as terrible as it is.
Real edit : you suck
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 21:21:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 21:20:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Edited by: Kayl Breinhar on 12/02/2010 20:55:53
Originally by: Kaigon Jane Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:50:02 Edited by: Kaigon Jane on 12/02/2010 20:49:24
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar This is the most horrible post I have ever read in the history of CAOD. This is even worse than Llondon's Fallout Boy post.
I don't know whether to congratulate you for your nefarious achievement or feel true shame for your corp. If I were Molle I'd kick Maverick Navy from IT simply because of this horrible post. I guess you're IT's Battlestars.
Sorry guys, only sov holding alliances are allowed to post comment here.
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Or he can just make you pets. Might explain why MVN has no outposts while Dark-Rising, The Executives, ANZAC, x13, Nex Exercitus, and ZERO do. Enjoy paying the rent.
and you too, no sov, no posting here. Posting here is for the big boys only, not for every minor empire corps.
especially those with silly alliance names
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Elysium_Alliance
Stones. Glass houses. Yadda yadda yadda, etc, etc, etc.
dude you do not have to reply to every post. If you log in to game more often, and have had as much activity in-game as you have posting, you corp wont be as terrible as it is.
Real edit : you suck
Never stop posting.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 21:36:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Kushmir Never stop posting.
are you Kayl Breinhar (Bendover) boyfriend? You don't have to defend him. Get a room and sov. then come back
You suck
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:04:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir Never stop posting.
are you Kayl Breinhar (Bendover) boyfriend? You don't have to defend him. Get a room and sov. then come back
You suck
1/10 try again
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:19:00 -
[184]
It's common knowledge that we're all gay in Goonswarm SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO[LODRA].
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:21:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Kushmir Never stop posting.
are you Kayl Breinhar (Bendover) boyfriend? You don't have to defend him. Get a room and sov. then come back
You suck
1/10 try again
Does my posting indicate in anyway that I give a flying f*** over whatever score you give me? You are truly a sad person. i suppose thats will make this post a 1/10 again like I give a . . . .
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:26:00 -
[186]
So let's recap...
Kaigon started with a "no sov, no post" attempt...then lapsed into the trusty middle school favorite of "what are you, his boyfriend" troll (which is proven to be wholly ineffective against Goons due to our collective love of ****), and now, after four posts where he's tried his best to get a sperg-out, he faceplants with the "feh, like I *care* what you think of what I post" reply.
Golfclap for Kaigon, everyone!
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:28:00 -
[187]
This thread surely delivers. The only thing that's missing is Fred0's honor and integrity speech.
The truth will set you free
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:38:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Metal Dude This thread surely delivers. The only thing that's missing is Fred0's honor and integrity speech.
This is a p. good thread, I agree. So what's it like getting your ass tongued by guys like Snotty and Kaigon here, all of them hoping that some day you'll give them a baby wipe, reacharound, and docking rights?
And people wonder why we scammed j4g pubbies and went out of our way to be reviled. =/
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Gummeladi
Caldari Haita de lupi Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.02.12 22:55:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:04:13 This topic is about IT alliance and ... who are the others? Who are goons? If they're just a piece of history, just let them rip and start a thread about current Eve policy,conflicts,wars and generally, about enteties that still exists. Imo Goonswarm IS just an insignificant name in Eve. Who gives a ... buck about who they were?! So, as an answer to the thread question, IT IS one of the strongest alliance in game which occupied pretty quickly vast regions of 0.0 space, while Goonswarm WERE one of the biggest alliances in Eve that failed at preserving its vast region of 0.0 space and now they no longer exist and therefore they are of no interest to this portion of forums called CAOD.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:12:00 -
[190]
Because as much as you'd like this to be a forum resembling the White House Situation Room, at its core EVE's still just an MMO. And MMO players like to brag and gloat when something bad happens to people they don't like. So while you might be fantasizing about playing Henry Kissinger in Space, really all that anyone's interested in is getting shiny stuff and doing the metaphysical forum equivalent of teabagging someone in Halo.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:14:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Gummeladi Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:04:13 This topic is about IT alliance and ... who are the others? Who are goons? If they're just a piece of history, just let them rip and start a thread about current Eve policy,conflicts,wars and generally, about enteties that still exists. Imo Goonswarm IS just an insignificant name in Eve. Who gives a ... buck about who they were?! So, as an answer to the thread question, IT IS one of the strongest alliance in game which occupied pretty quickly vast regions of 0.0 space, while Goonswarm WERE one of the biggest alliances in Eve that failed at preserving its vast region of 0.0 space and now they no longer exist and therefore they are of no interest to this portion of forums called CAOD.
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart.
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Gummeladi
Caldari Haita de lupi Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:22:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:22:32
Originally by: Kushmir
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart. [8)
I suggest you start a thread about the subtle difference between IT Alliance and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO Also I'd be much interested in finding out how the two enteties named above are and will influence the 0.0 state of affairs...
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:35:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Gummeladi Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:22:32
Originally by: Kushmir
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart. [8)
I suggest you start a thread about the subtle difference between IT Alliance and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO Also I'd be much interested in finding out how the two enteties named above are and will influence the 0.0 state of affairs...
Oh no, he went after the state of our space empire, I am so ashamed. :cripes:
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:43:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Gummeladi Edited by: Gummeladi on 12/02/2010 23:22:32
Originally by: Kushmir
Well done, you correctly identified that Goonswarm, as an alliance, is now dead. I'm impressed, I didn't know Romanians were so smart. [8)
I suggest you start a thread about the subtle difference between IT Alliance and SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO Also I'd be much interested in finding out how the two enteties named above are and will influence the 0.0 state of affairs...
Oh no, he went after the state of our space empire, I am so ashamed. :cripes:
Indeed. My epeen is now an innie.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:02:00 -
[195]
Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 00:02:01 It's pretty amusing to see how anxious Goons / SOLOGANGBANGSOLO guys are in this thread. They bleated for years about how much they wanted a one one one fight vs BoB / IT and when it came they disbanded within 4 hours.
There's not really much left to discuss, unless you decide to play bull**** bingo and see how many times former goons can post repeatedly to remind us just how 'chill' they are about it all and just how hard they claim to be loling. While their CEO rage disbands. While their lead FC writes threatmail to CCP about the fact he'll quit unless CCP rollback the decision.
I can't think of any other alliance (including Hydra) that only took 4 hours to fold. Maybe when GS finally reform they can be [ORIGAMI]
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Daedhead
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:07:00 -
[196]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 00:02:01 one one one fight vs BoB / IT and when it came they disbanded within 4 hours.
I'm glad we agree Windy, I too think the entire South are part of IT.
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Airborne Ninja
Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:08:00 -
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 00:16:56
Originally by: Daedhead
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 00:02:01 one one one fight vs BoB / IT and when it came they disbanded within 4 hours.
I'm glad we agree Windy, I too think the entire South are part of IT.
You folded before anyone even fired a shot. Only one alliance came looking for you, and you fled within hours. Not sure what point you're making? In fact now I think of it I can't think of any other alliance the surrendered before a war even started. Even the smallest alliances put up some kind of fight.
I'm fairly sure Goonswarm were the first to surrender on the first day that their space came under attack. Can anyone think of any other alliances that collapsed so fast?
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Airborne Ninja
Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:20:00 -
[199]
Apparently the war for Delve started the day we lost sov.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:24:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Airborne Ninja Apparently the war for Delve started the day we lost sov.
Delve has been fought over many times. PL and NC were the primary attackers previously, then Goons paid a BoB member R/L money to disband the alliance.
The most recent contest was the only time that Bob / IT went head on for Goons. Goons had all of their caps and primary fighting force located in Delve, and IT obviously had nothing there. You surrendered within four hours.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:27:00 -
[201]
Sort of hard to mount a proper defense when there's no one upstairs and no one can access the alliance wallet due to paranoia of what happened to BoB happening to us (lol). But seeing as defending with no high-level administration present (and ultimately a CEO that claimed he was going to go **** goons anyway) would've been suicide (no one to pay), I can see why you're clinging to the idea that that's what we should've done. At least the way we did it the bulk of Joe Everygoon's personal isk wealth wasn't impacted tremendously.
But hey, don't let that **** up ya argument none.
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Zarak1 Kenpach1
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:28:00 -
[202]
Schadenfreude, I laughed at them all.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:30:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Sort of hard to mount a proper defense when there's no one upstairs and no one can access the alliance wallet due to paranoia of what happened to BoB happening to us (lol). But seeing as defending with no high-level administration present (and ultimately a CEO that claimed he was going to go **** goons anyway) would've been suicide (no one to pay), I can see why you're clinging to the idea that that's what we should've done. At least the way we did it the bulk of Joe Everygoon's personal isk wealth wasn't impacted tremendously.
But hey, don't let that **** up ya argument none.
I entirely agree. my friend. I was simply pointing out that it's the first time any alliance has ever folded before IT/BoB even fired a shot.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Airborne Ninja
Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:34:00 -
[204]
shots were fired hth
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Daylen Drazzi
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Daylen Drazzi on 13/02/2010 00:41:10
Originally by: General Windypops I entirely agree. my friend. I was simply pointing out that it's the first time any alliance has ever folded before IT/BoB even fired a shot.
Wow, ignorant AND full of **** - this post is full of win! "Ya see us Goons neva lose, If we'r dead, we'r dead so nobody cares, If'n we win we'v won, so's only we cares If'n we run away we always come back later so Goons neva lose ya see?" |
Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.13 00:52:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Airborne Ninja Apparently the war for Delve started the day we lost sov.
See, IÆll have to school you on what happening in game since you solokrapforaname guys play forums rather than the game.
iT had finished with Fountain region and started the attack on Delve high end moons and in particular M0- system. Then the Goons did not pay bills so sov was dropped and Delve was a free for all, level playing field with home advantage for goons.
Without sov to protect the Goon, IT duffed up goons big time, I mean really badly mauled Goons while Goon allies all kept quiet hoping IT wonÆt notice them cowering in the corner.
Goons cried to the CEO for not using game mechanics to protect them from the nasty IT, Goons CEO knew its membership was full of ******s and went off to play with new missus while goons still think they are relevant.
Go quote some "memes"
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 01:14:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Airborne Ninja Apparently the war for Delve started the day we lost sov.
See, IÆll have to school you on what happening in game since you solokrapforaname guys play forums rather than the game.
iT had finished with Fountain region and started the attack on Delve high end moons and in particular M0- system. Then the Goons did not pay bills so sov was dropped and Delve was a free for all, level playing field with home advantage for goons.
Without sov to protect the Goon, IT duffed up goons big time, I mean really badly mauled Goons while Goon allies all kept quiet hoping IT wonÆt notice them cowering in the corner.
Goons cried to the CEO for not using game mechanics to protect them from the nasty IT, Goons CEO knew its membership was full of ******s and went off to play with new missus while goons still think they are relevant.
Go quote some "memes"
I bet you are one of those people who think Bush was behind 9/11 or that the Holocaust didn't happen.
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Schani Kratnorr
Amarr x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.13 06:14:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Goontard has actually done anything dishonorable ingame.
Try asking around for the story about the very first Miner II Blueprints...
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 07:48:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Bitter Juggalo
Try asking around for the story about the very first Miner II Blueprints...
Go on, I'm dying here. Please, reveal to all of caod about just how mean and evil those goonies are.
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.13 07:58:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Rooman
Originally by: Tobruk -snip- emo stuff - snip - you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter
never stop posting, you are like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. You are right about one thing, you sure are one butthurt emo bitter sook
Congrats Sir Molle you finally got back your space. I hope it was worth the price ^ ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.13 08:03:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Rooman
Originally by: Tobruk -snip- emo stuff - snip - you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter
never stop posting, you are like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. You are right about one thing, you sure are one butthurt emo bitter sook
Congrats Sir Molle you finally got back your space. I hope it was worth the price ^
Yeah the lost dread have already been reimbursed
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 08:34:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Kaigon Jane
Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Rooman
Originally by: Tobruk -snip- emo stuff - snip - you can call me whatever you want - you are certainly right about me being bitter
never stop posting, you are like herpes, the gift that keeps on giving. You are right about one thing, you sure are one butthurt emo bitter sook
Congrats Sir Molle you finally got back your space. I hope it was worth the price ^
Yeah the lost dread have already been reimbursed
He's implying that Molle paid the price of reducing his once proud ELITE PVP ALLIANCE to a carebear bloated monstrosity to achieve his "revenge".
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 09:06:31
Originally by: Kushmir
He's implying that Molle paid the price of reducing his once proud ELITE PVP ALLIANCE to a carebear bloated monstrosity to achieve his "revenge".
Since the 'price' is having defeated PL decisively and effectively (including claiming the record for the largest loss inflicted on any enemy in the history of the game), swiftly followed by wiping Goons off the map within 4 hours and reclaiming 2 of the best region in the game... I don't think Molle's going to be beating himself up too much, buddy.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops ... I don't think Molle's going to be beating himself up too much, buddy.
hmm not sure about that. The 'price' of victory may have Molle beating himself up in all the wrong ways
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Shamad Conde
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:43:00 -
[215]
Firstly, I would like to thank goons/pl/sot for giving us all the regions they did not want. Thank you for all the wealth Secondly, I can't express enough regret that this operation lasted so short Thirdly, Tobruk, your allies came (when they actually bothered to) in stealth bombers to defend your space, you need to breathe and relax, the war is over. Re-think your strategy.
Quote:
He's implying that Molle paid the price of reducing his once proud ELITE PVP ALLIANCE to a carebear bloated monstrosity to achieve his "revenge".
How small should an alliance be to take on Goons/Nc/PL/SOT/Cry Havoc/Rebellion?
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:54:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Shamad Conde
How small should an alliance be to take on Goons/Nc/PL/SOT/Cry Havoc/Rebellion?
You forgot ZAF.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.13 19:14:00 -
[217]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 09:06:31
Originally by: Kushmir
He's implying that Molle paid the price of reducing his once proud ELITE PVP ALLIANCE to a carebear bloated monstrosity to achieve his "revenge".
(including claiming the record for the largest loss inflicted on any enemy in the history of the game)
Boasting about that is like boasting about winning the 100m sprint, where the rest of the competitors were chained to the starting blocks.
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Plague Black
Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.02.13 19:49:00 -
[218]
Test 1, 2, 3.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 20:18:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Plague Black Test 1, 2, 3.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who will be marginally surprised to know that Plague Black can count up to three.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.13 22:12:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Tobruk on 13/02/2010 22:13:01
Originally by: Shamad Conde Re-think your strategy.
All I need is a patch specifically tailored by ccp to nerf your alliances play style but they wont answer my eve-mails.
maybe you can give me their MSN/personal email/ phone #?
Quote: Tobruk, your allies came (when they actually bothered to) in stealth bombers to defend your space
So your admitting that PL alone beat you, a 4k man alliance, in every fight except one where we couldn't actually play.
Quote: How small should an alliance be to take on Goons/Nc/PL/SOT/Cry Havoc/Rebellion?
or are you saying that you couldn't win without ANZAC, BLAST, and the maverick navy?
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 22:36:00 -
[221]
Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 22:38:47
Originally by: Tobruk All I need is a patch specifically tailored by ccp to nerf your alliances play style but they wont answer my eve-mails.
Are you honestly trying to claim that it's deeply unfair that you only knew one way to win, used it incessantly, then were incapable of adapting when the mechanics changed?
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente Copia-WarRages Armaments Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.02.13 22:40:00 -
[222]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 00:08:44
It's pretty amusing to see how anxious Goons / SOLOGANGBANGSOLO guys are in this thread. They bleated for years about how much they wanted a one on one fight vs BoB / IT and when it came they disbanded within 4 hours.
It wasn't a one on one fight, AAA, nearly all of the south save atlas and CVA were on one side verse them. Of course that is the way things are, but it isn't inspiring heroics, demonstrating about how IT has any more class then goons. |
General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.13 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 22:44:14 Goons folded in 4 hours of losing sov what are you talking about? You seem to be suggesting they made some kind of great last stand? They gave up before a shot was even fired.
Interesting that you suggest CVA was allied with Goons though.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.13 23:55:00 -
[224]
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 22:38:47
Originally by: Tobruk All I need is a patch specifically tailored by ccp to nerf your alliances play style but they wont answer my eve-mails.
Are you honestly trying to claim that it's deeply unfair that you only knew one way to win, used it incessantly, then were incapable of adapting when the mechanics changed?
in the eve chess game every move has many counters. We are a small alliance our counter to 4k man blob was the AOE dd - even with that gone we adapted using titans super tanked bs and carriers to counter (and quite successfully).
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
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Kaigon Jane
Caldari LaughingGirls.jpg Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
wolfpax?
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Onyc Noziroh
Caldari Altless Green Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
Funny, the blob did not bother you when you NAPed 3/4 of EVE to blob LV, KOS, FIX, BoB, Atlas, AAA, but when other adapted the same tactic to counter your blob, itÆs unfair? It never bothered you when others could not load the grid. And you not able to load grid ONCE was due to you calling in a blob to outnumber 600 pilots 2-1. How unfair.
Originally by: Tobruk
So your admitting that PL alone beat you, a 4k man alliance, in every fight except one where we couldn't actually play.
PL alone? When? You have not been alone for 3 years. Even in Fountain against IT, you had goons, SoT, ER and bunch of other pets that outnumbered IT and even with that you kept calling in NC, CH, and a bunch of other to fight for you. Yea, too bad that bad, bad ccp specifically tailored a nerf so that the ôsupperpowerö PL could not play the no-risk-PVP anymore. U mad? Too bad.
The truth will set you free
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tobruk on 14/02/2010 01:01:38
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
Funny, the blob did not bother you when you NAPed 3/4 of EVE to blob LV, KOS, FIX, BoB, Atlas, AAA, but when other adapted the same tactic to counter your blob, itÆs unfair? It never bothered you when others could not load the grid. And you not able to load grid ONCE was due to you calling in a blob to outnumber 600 pilots 2-1. How unfair.
perhaps you missed the devblog and multipul testings to try and discover the source of this NEW lag monster. what happened in y2 isn't what happened in delve.
we are aware of the problem
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Originally by: Tobruk
So your admitting that PL alone beat you, a 4k man alliance, in every fight except one where we couldn't actually play.
PL alone? When? You have not been alone for 3 years. Even in Fountain against IT, you had goons, SoT, ER and bunch of other pets that outnumbered IT and even with that you kept calling in NC, CH, and a bunch of other to fight for you. Yea, too bad that bad, bad ccp specifically tailored a nerf so that the ôsupperpowerö PL could not play the no-risk-PVP anymore. U mad? Too bad.
agreed, the point of that question was to point out how absurd your corp mates assertion that goon swarm defended fountain in bombers was.
And yes I have already stated numerous times that im mad, im not even trying to pretend to be nonchalant - I care that PLs internet space pixes got ****ed by CCPs incompetence and I care that IT is trying to take credit for a victory that had almost nothing to do them. Thats why I play the game, thats why its entertaining. Whats not entertaining is losing a trillion isk of time effort and energy to total and complete BS. So please can we move past the memes. ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.14 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
Funny, the blob did not bother you when you NAPed 3/4 of EVE to blob LV, KOS, FIX, BoB, Atlas, AAA, but when other adapted the same tactic to counter your blob, itÆs unfair? It never bothered you when others could not load the grid. And you not able to load grid ONCE was due to you calling in a blob to outnumber 600 pilots 2-1. How unfair.
Originally by: Tobruk
So your admitting that PL alone beat you, a 4k man alliance, in every fight except one where we couldn't actually play.
PL alone? When? You have not been alone for 3 years. Even in Fountain against IT, you had goons, SoT, ER and bunch of other pets that outnumbered IT and even with that you kept calling in NC, CH, and a bunch of other to fight for you. Yea, too bad that bad, bad ccp specifically tailored a nerf so that the ôsupperpowerö PL could not play the no-risk-PVP anymore. U mad? Too bad.
Are you a sanctioned forum warrior?
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Itzena
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.14 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo ps, I'll take horrible posting and actually playing the game than gr8t posting and being horrible at the game any day just sayin'
That right there. That is the difference.
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Romulus XII
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk Edited by: Tobruk on 13/02/2010 22:13:01
Originally by: Shamad Conde Re-think your strategy.
All I need is a patch specifically tailored by ccp to nerf your alliances play style but they wont answer my eve-mails.
maybe you can give me their MSN/personal email/ phone #?
The dead horse, you are not beating it hard enough
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Spathi
Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk Thats why I play the game, thats why its entertaining. Whats not entertaining is losing a trillion isk of time effort and energy to total and complete BS. So please can we move past the memes.
Strange, you didn't seem to mind when it happened to other people. Interesting.
SOLODRAKEBANANA are a pretty cool alliance, they troll post all day and don't give a crap.
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Eskalin
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
And yes I have already stated numerous times that im mad, im not even trying to pretend to be nonchalant - I care that PLs internet space pixes got ****ed by CCPs incompetence and I care that IT is trying to take credit for a victory that had almost nothing to do them. Thats why I play the game, thats why its entertaining. Whats not entertaining is losing a trillion isk of time effort and energy to total and complete BS. So please can we move past the memes.
so what you are saying is that you accidentally the whole fountain?
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.14 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Eskalin
Originally by: Tobruk
And yes I have already stated numerous times that im mad, im not even trying to pretend to be nonchalant - I care that PLs internet space pixes got ****ed by CCPs incompetence and I care that IT is trying to take credit for a victory that had almost nothing to do them. Thats why I play the game, thats why its entertaining. Whats not entertaining is losing a trillion isk of time effort and energy to total and complete BS. So please can we move past the memes.
so what you are saying is that you accidentally the whole fountain?
good one
something like that only replace "you" with CCP and "fountain" with eve online and you get the gist of my point
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
good one
something like that only replace "you" with CCP and "fountain" with eve online and you get the gist of my point
Naa, we get it. YouÆre a typical bully acting all tough when others are backing you up, but as soon as you get your nose bloodied, you run home to mommy kicking and screaming how everyone is against you and how itÆs not fair.
The truth will set you free
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.02.14 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
good one
something like that only replace "you" with CCP and "fountain" with eve online and you get the gist of my point
Naa, we get it. YouÆre a typical bully acting all tough when others are backing you up, but as soon as you get your nose bloodied, you run home to mommy kicking and screaming how everyone is against you and how itÆs not fair.
That can be said for just about everyone who loses in this game.
For example: "You only beat us because when we got disbanded we lost sov 4."
I really only need one example to make my point.
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Buxaroo
Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Buxaroo on 14/02/2010 05:37:53
Originally by: Tobruk
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
HTFU. Not our fault your FC's didn't take into account the weather of the system they were going to bum rush. Oh and JV1V would like some of those tears. The whining just makes your side look like emo goths.
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Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.14 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tobruk
good one
something like that only replace "you" with CCP and "fountain" with eve online and you get the gist of my point
Naa, we get it. YouÆre a typical bully acting all tough when others are backing you up, but as soon as you get your nose bloodied, you run home to mommy kicking and screaming how everyone is against you and how itÆs not fair.
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Rooman
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk Congrats Sir Molle you finally got back your space. I hope it was worth the price ^
confirming my non Elite PvP Corp helped remove your High End moons, remove you from Fountain in record time, killed your titans and caps in Y-2, yep our mining lasers and ratting Ravens owned. Look to help you out I extracted some DNA from my guys and made
THESE
Next time you could take some of them and not be such a whiny emo sook blaming everyone but yourself for your total incompetent and spineless actions when it comes to defending your assets and space. It was your Alliance that chucked the towel in after one decisive loss. You guys came onto to CAOD boasting about our 120 cap losses in Syndicate and what did we do later that day? Yep we regrouped got back on the horse and begun our campaign of Fountain. Some of us get on with the job and shrug off losses, others bleat on CAOD how it's so unfair and blame everyone but themselves. You can work out which side you fall on champ
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 13/02/2010 22:38:47
Originally by: Tobruk All I need is a patch specifically tailored by ccp to nerf your alliances play style but they wont answer my eve-mails.
Are you honestly trying to claim that it's deeply unfair that you only knew one way to win, used it incessantly, then were incapable of adapting when the mechanics changed?
in the eve chess game every move has many counters. We are a small alliance our counter to 4k man blob was the AOE dd - even with that gone we adapted using titans super tanked bs and carriers to counter (and quite successfully).
but what is the counter when you cant load grid? when the game only works for one side? there is none and yes, that is deeply unfair.
Ahh man i said i was going to stop posting, but this is too much to handle. Mind you my english skills have not increased much since last time so i hope you can understand what i write.
Your right. AOE doomsday was the only thing that helped you keep a region. So apparantly you think its fair that a burnt out alliance with 50 members online at peak hours should be able to hold back vs a 4500 man alliance.
"even with that gone we adapted using titans super tanked bs and carriers to counter (and quite successfully)"
Well all i can say is lol. How many titans did you lose? And in before lag and ccp and unfair world excuse: You chose to jump in, not us. You knew the servers were unstable. But keep them excuses about unfair play coming and show us a bit more of that butthurt attitude.
As Metal Dude says: It was all right for you to nap whole of eve when you needed it, but when things turned against you all that is heard is whaa whaa ccp fail whaaa whaa unfair play whaa whaa.
That actually felt pretty good. Now im gonna stop posting before i get emo. Heres a tissue. Keep the tears coming.
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Brodde Dim
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2010.02.14 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Buxaroo ps, I'll take horrible posting and actually playing the game than gr8t posting and being horrible at the game any day just sayin'
That right there. That is the difference.
Nah, Goons were never gr8t at posting either.
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Whiskeydod
Amarr R E D E M P T I O N Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Romulus XII
The dead horse, you are not beating it hard enough
lol
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