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SHR1KE
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:33:00 -
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Let me get this striaght, you gambled, hoping to capitalize on changes after the patch, and you lost. Now you want to be compensated? Would you say anything if your profit margin got bigger? Despite the profit you have made in the past you are whining about your 'losses' and want to be reimbursed.
All that I can say is get over it things change. Prices, security of systems, agent missions, tracking, module fittings, skills. All of these things have been adjusted through various patches. Adapt or quit, no one likes a whiner. Just wait until the missles themselves get *cough*nerfed*cough* then demand will dry up as fast as you can say WTS Tempest AND Raven.
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SHR1KE
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:33:00 -
[92]
Let me get this striaght, you gambled, hoping to capitalize on changes after the patch, and you lost. Now you want to be compensated? Would you say anything if your profit margin got bigger? Despite the profit you have made in the past you are whining about your 'losses' and want to be reimbursed.
All that I can say is get over it things change. Prices, security of systems, agent missions, tracking, module fittings, skills. All of these things have been adjusted through various patches. Adapt or quit, no one likes a whiner. Just wait until the missles themselves get *cough*nerfed*cough* then demand will dry up as fast as you can say WTS Tempest AND Raven.
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WilfredTheSmart
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Posted - 2004.12.17 16:11:00 -
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100k of heavys in stock - now worthless.
Business down the tubes!
BPO's that now are worthless!
Petitioned - no joy - any suprise there.
I spent the first few months making missiles and was slowly building up a good selection of BPO and now this.
Ruined - not by market forces but a keystroke 10 to 100.
A joke a complete and utter joke - We will all be flying Ravens - as if missiles boats need anymore advantages.
Was in 0.0 - have to come to empire to mine cas nought is selling - no cash coming in for the ship losses in 0.0
Wilf
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WilfredTheSmart
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Posted - 2004.12.17 16:11:00 -
[94]
100k of heavys in stock - now worthless.
Business down the tubes!
BPO's that now are worthless!
Petitioned - no joy - any suprise there.
I spent the first few months making missiles and was slowly building up a good selection of BPO and now this.
Ruined - not by market forces but a keystroke 10 to 100.
A joke a complete and utter joke - We will all be flying Ravens - as if missiles boats need anymore advantages.
Was in 0.0 - have to come to empire to mine cas nought is selling - no cash coming in for the ship losses in 0.0
Wilf
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.12.17 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Serak Tur on 17/12/2004 22:39:10 While I agree that the change should have been announced beforehand to let people adjust, I think this is a great change.
I don't sell missiles however I build them to be used in PVP. Missiles took an overly large amount of minerals to produce.
Now, instead on pouring minerals into missiles I can actually build other usefull things. So, if I were making missiles for cash I might be upset, but since thats not the case I'm very happy.
It might even make missile using ships more viable (or at least easier to supply) for extended offensive operations, and certainly better for NPCing.
-Serak Tur edited for spelling
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.12.17 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Serak Tur on 17/12/2004 22:39:10 While I agree that the change should have been announced beforehand to let people adjust, I think this is a great change.
I don't sell missiles however I build them to be used in PVP. Missiles took an overly large amount of minerals to produce.
Now, instead on pouring minerals into missiles I can actually build other usefull things. So, if I were making missiles for cash I might be upset, but since thats not the case I'm very happy.
It might even make missile using ships more viable (or at least easier to supply) for extended offensive operations, and certainly better for NPCing.
-Serak Tur edited for spelling
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Zarin
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:14:00 -
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I lost millions on the face value of my stock with Shiva, but probably made about the same back in inflated sales of new stock in the week or so following. Unfortunately what was a good earner now isn't really worth doing. (You get a much higher margin and throughput on other products). So yeah, prices are going to be down, but supplies will be available at less convenient locations. And as a user of missiles I thought they were good value as it was, so what if it costs a 200isk missile to kill a 2500isk rat, that's still 2300isk clear.
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Zarin
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Posted - 2004.12.20 14:14:00 -
[98]
I lost millions on the face value of my stock with Shiva, but probably made about the same back in inflated sales of new stock in the week or so following. Unfortunately what was a good earner now isn't really worth doing. (You get a much higher margin and throughput on other products). So yeah, prices are going to be down, but supplies will be available at less convenient locations. And as a user of missiles I thought they were good value as it was, so what if it costs a 200isk missile to kill a 2500isk rat, that's still 2300isk clear.
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.12.21 09:08:00 -
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I've been a missile user ever since i got into a cruiser and always thought that missiles were over priced compared to the cost of using other weapons of equivalent sixe.
Always built my own missiles too and this is a big improvement IMGO
Yeah i lost a few mill on the missiles i ghad in stock. but hey i can recoup that soon enough.
As for stating that everyone will now use ravens well i always have used a Raven or a scorpion as my BS and otherpilots have their favourite ships as well. I really dont think all those Apoc flyers are suddenly going to go train caldari frigate/cruiser/BS then missile launcher/cruise and torps thats a couple of monthw skill training right there (yes i know some pilots can already fly all BS but you get my drift)
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.12.21 09:08:00 -
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I've been a missile user ever since i got into a cruiser and always thought that missiles were over priced compared to the cost of using other weapons of equivalent sixe.
Always built my own missiles too and this is a big improvement IMGO
Yeah i lost a few mill on the missiles i ghad in stock. but hey i can recoup that soon enough.
As for stating that everyone will now use ravens well i always have used a Raven or a scorpion as my BS and otherpilots have their favourite ships as well. I really dont think all those Apoc flyers are suddenly going to go train caldari frigate/cruiser/BS then missile launcher/cruise and torps thats a couple of monthw skill training right there (yes i know some pilots can already fly all BS but you get my drift)
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Hmmm I need a Sig |

Tar om
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Posted - 2004.12.21 09:59:00 -
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Caldari love... it knows no bounds... -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com |

Tar om
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Posted - 2004.12.21 09:59:00 -
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Caldari love... it knows no bounds... -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net http://www.serenitymovie.com |
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