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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 10:08:00 -
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Just realised that these now make 100 per run, instead of 10 - but with no extra mineral requirements. The result, Torpedos for just hundreds of isk a piece to make, Heavy Missiles for tens of isk, Light Missiles for single figures and Rockets you'll have to pay to get rid of 
Please tell me this is a bug, i knew Missiles in general were overpriced, but this is alittle extreme? Who is going to buy medium hybrid ammo when you can get Heavy Missiles for the same price that do more damage?
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 10:08:00 -
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Just realised that these now make 100 per run, instead of 10 - but with no extra mineral requirements. The result, Torpedos for just hundreds of isk a piece to make, Heavy Missiles for tens of isk, Light Missiles for single figures and Rockets you'll have to pay to get rid of
Please tell me this is a bug, i knew Missiles in general were overpriced, but this is alittle extreme? Who is going to buy medium hybrid ammo when you can get Heavy Missiles for the same price that do more damage?
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:00:00 -
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Last two times the missiles changed there were no announcements that I recall; the first being the change from 1 to 10 per run, the second being the drop of mineral requirements by 1/2 to 1/3.
Hurrah for the missile toting hunters, sadness for the missile making manufacturers ;)
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:00:00 -
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Last two times the missiles changed there were no announcements that I recall; the first being the change from 1 to 10 per run, the second being the drop of mineral requirements by 1/2 to 1/3.
Hurrah for the missile toting hunters, sadness for the missile making manufacturers ;)
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: d'hofren on 25/11/2004 11:24:28
Yep, but this is plain silly.
A foxfire rocket now costs around 1/3 of a Phased plasma small round.
Has anyone noticed if the NPC's have changed base price on these? If not that might show this as a bug.
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: d'hofren on 25/11/2004 11:24:28
Yep, but this is plain silly.
A foxfire rocket now costs around 1/3 of a Phased plasma small round.
Has anyone noticed if the NPC's have changed base price on these? If not that might show this as a bug.
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:51:00 -
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Market was down while i checked this, so couldn't check the NPC price. I could understand maybe halving the cost of missiles... but this much seems TOO much to be deliberate 
Bad news for whomever had around 35,000 missiles stocked up for the Level 4 agents realease (where's the "cry" smilie?)
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 11:51:00 -
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Market was down while i checked this, so couldn't check the NPC price. I could understand maybe halving the cost of missiles... but this much seems TOO much to be deliberate
Bad news for whomever had around 35,000 missiles stocked up for the Level 4 agents realease (where's the "cry" smilie?)
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:49:00 -
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 Originally by: TheAwakening
Bad news for whomever had around 35,000 missiles stocked up for the Level 4 agents realease (where's the "cry" smilie?)
I have somewhere between one hundred to two hundred thousand missiles in stock (mostly cruise, a few heavies). I'm guessing this change wiped somewhere between 150 to 250 million off of my net worth, but I'll never really know.
Bittersweet is the icon you would be looking for... clearly we manufacturers of ammunition have too much money :|
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: TheAwakening
Bad news for whomever had around 35,000 missiles stocked up for the Level 4 agents realease (where's the "cry" smilie?)
I have somewhere between one hundred to two hundred thousand missiles in stock (mostly cruise, a few heavies). I'm guessing this change wiped somewhere between 150 to 250 million off of my net worth, but I'll never really know.
Bittersweet is the icon you would be looking for... clearly we manufacturers of ammunition have too much money :|
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Ki Shodan
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:52:00 -
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hey, ISD do something usefull:
delete this thread, so i might be able to get some of my, NOW REALLY overpriced, missiles stock sold.
thru this nice change i made approximatly 100 M loss only in mineral networth.
dear DEVs, is this what you call ISK-sink?
i, as freelancer, spent several week to aquire these values, why did you just destroy it? is there any reason? will i be compensated? no?
oh and while you are at it insert your favourite bad language in here:
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(this is expresses my current feelings about you, dear devs! as far as ISD would let me ....) |
Ki Shodan
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:52:00 -
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hey, ISD do something usefull:
delete this thread, so i might be able to get some of my, NOW REALLY overpriced, missiles stock sold.
thru this nice change i made approximatly 100 M loss only in mineral networth.
dear DEVs, is this what you call ISK-sink?
i, as freelancer, spent several week to aquire these values, why did you just destroy it? is there any reason? will i be compensated? no?
oh and while you are at it insert your favourite bad language in here:
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(this is expresses my current feelings about you, dear devs! as far as ISD would let me ....) |
Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:57:00 -
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Damn this. Just bought minerals and made 10k of each cruise missiles to market before patch. Tought they would come in need because of new lvl4 agents.
And yet someone had to make a thread about this... Good bye to my money 
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2004.11.25 12:57:00 -
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Damn this. Just bought minerals and made 10k of each cruise missiles to market before patch. Tought they would come in need because of new lvl4 agents.
And yet someone had to make a thread about this... Good bye to my money
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: TheAwakening on 25/11/2004 14:02:20
yes... someone had to make a thread about this to get it changed back.
ISDs/GMs/Devs, can i please get some confirmation that this is indeed a bug and will be changed back 
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: TheAwakening on 25/11/2004 14:02:20
yes... someone had to make a thread about this to get it changed back.
ISDs/GMs/Devs, can i please get some confirmation that this is indeed a bug and will be changed back
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2004.11.25 14:52:00 -
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Has anyone seen any information about this bpo change? This is too big change to make without informing ppl first. My losses are going to be tens of millions. And that's a lots of money for a light industry and agent running character like myself.
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2004.11.25 14:52:00 -
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Has anyone seen any information about this bpo change? This is too big change to make without informing ppl first. My losses are going to be tens of millions. And that's a lots of money for a light industry and agent running character like myself.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.11.25 15:00:00 -
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if you suspect its a bug it might be wise posting it in the exodus forum somewhere or submitting a bug report, in the meantime i suggest you start a 1000 run build of as many torps and missiles as you can afford 
Death to the Galante |
Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.11.25 15:00:00 -
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if you suspect its a bug it might be wise posting it in the exodus forum somewhere or submitting a bug report, in the meantime i suggest you start a 1000 run build of as many torps and missiles as you can afford
Death to the Galante |
TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 16:11:00 -
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done & done 
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TheAwakening
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Posted - 2004.11.25 16:11:00 -
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done & done
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:31:00 -
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!
I hope its not a bug. I've made 10s of thousands of missiles and have a few thousand in stock and all I can say is...YAYYYYY!!!!
-Serak Tur
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:31:00 -
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!
I hope its not a bug. I've made 10s of thousands of missiles and have a few thousand in stock and all I can say is...YAYYYYY!!!!
-Serak Tur
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Serak Tur on 26/11/2004 04:36:15
-First dbl post ever 
-Serak Tur
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Serak Tur
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Posted - 2004.11.26 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Serak Tur on 26/11/2004 04:36:15
-First dbl post ever
-Serak Tur
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Weix
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:42:00 -
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Bunch of dumbo's, listen up:
This 100 for 10 thing seems all great, but only if u use the stuff ureself. This bug will totally kill the entire eve missle/torp market for weeks to come. Juggernauts for 1000 isk, widows for 100 isk, u know what this means: no profit, extreme supplies, stockpiles for months to come and say goodbye to ure missles manufacturing carreer. CCP u better fix this fast or lose manufacturers by the dozen....including me.
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Weix
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Posted - 2004.11.26 08:42:00 -
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Bunch of dumbo's, listen up:
This 100 for 10 thing seems all great, but only if u use the stuff ureself. This bug will totally kill the entire eve missle/torp market for weeks to come. Juggernauts for 1000 isk, widows for 100 isk, u know what this means: no profit, extreme supplies, stockpiles for months to come and say goodbye to ure missles manufacturing carreer. CCP u better fix this fast or lose manufacturers by the dozen....including me.
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: d'hofren on 26/11/2004 11:09:56
well,
The npc's seem to be selling at the same price as before. Also the BP spec's listed on this site show all missile BPO's as producing 100 item batches.
If you had huge stock of missiles before exodus then I feel rather sorry for you. Personally I keep my equity in a stable form during any potentially risk periods. That means my assets were safe in ISK during the upgrade. Some folks like to bet on the market though....
In the long term this will not effect the market for sellers. The percentage profit on your minerals is exactly the same. All you have to do is move the decimal place in your selling price. Sales will just move slower that's all.
It does give missile users an unholy DOT / ISK cost ratio, (I suspect, but I haven't done the maths).
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: d'hofren on 26/11/2004 11:09:56
well,
The npc's seem to be selling at the same price as before. Also the BP spec's listed on this site show all missile BPO's as producing 100 item batches.
If you had huge stock of missiles before exodus then I feel rather sorry for you. Personally I keep my equity in a stable form during any potentially risk periods. That means my assets were safe in ISK during the upgrade. Some folks like to bet on the market though....
In the long term this will not effect the market for sellers. The percentage profit on your minerals is exactly the same. All you have to do is move the decimal place in your selling price. Sales will just move slower that's all.
It does give missile users an unholy DOT / ISK cost ratio, (I suspect, but I haven't done the maths).
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