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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2004.11.26 10:36:00 -
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So far i only managed to do one missions that was level four and it took me the better part of 5 hours :P
Hit and run tacttics ina caracal :P
needless to say I aint doing any more, took me too long.
Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
WTB 8x 280mm Scout Howies. Will pay 20% more than Naga's current price |
Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2004.11.26 10:36:00 -
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So far i only managed to do one missions that was level four and it took me the better part of 5 hours :P
Hit and run tacttics ina caracal :P
needless to say I aint doing any more, took me too long.
Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
WTB 8x 280mm Scout Howies. Will pay 20% more than Naga's current price |
Zidock
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:18:00 -
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Ok I did my first mission solo and it wasnt a problem the second mission the 20 ships targeting and firing at me at once was insane, before I got the 2 webber frigs I was dead. I went back with a buddy, not a single ship targeted him. He used drones and as long as he did attack with the drones first the ships did not fire at him so it was almost feasable.
But my main piont being if you are in groups, loyalty points are not divided, and do you just sit in a system and try for hours to gather up people from the same agent or another lvl 4 agen close by, and just mob around in a small bs fleet switching agents, and only getting small increases in your loyalty points?
This just dont seem right, there shouls be a happy meduim between lvl 3 and 4. In my opinion lvl 4 shouldnt be to much harder than killing large spawns in 0.0 because getting together an agent runner group is not that easy.
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Zidock
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:18:00 -
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Ok I did my first mission solo and it wasnt a problem the second mission the 20 ships targeting and firing at me at once was insane, before I got the 2 webber frigs I was dead. I went back with a buddy, not a single ship targeted him. He used drones and as long as he did attack with the drones first the ships did not fire at him so it was almost feasable.
But my main piont being if you are in groups, loyalty points are not divided, and do you just sit in a system and try for hours to gather up people from the same agent or another lvl 4 agen close by, and just mob around in a small bs fleet switching agents, and only getting small increases in your loyalty points?
This just dont seem right, there shouls be a happy meduim between lvl 3 and 4. In my opinion lvl 4 shouldnt be to much harder than killing large spawns in 0.0 because getting together an agent runner group is not that easy.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:25:00 -
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I wouldnt say they are easy, but once you take out the ceptors, you have no reason to die, as you will not get warp scrambled once they are dead. Focus fire and drones on the ceptors first, then you can wapr in and out if needed.
In my tanked apoc, i warp to BM at 60km kill the 6 odd ceptors,, then kill the rest of the spawn at ease.
Even did it in a omen once :P
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Revolution
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:25:00 -
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I wouldnt say they are easy, but once you take out the ceptors, you have no reason to die, as you will not get warp scrambled once they are dead. Focus fire and drones on the ceptors first, then you can wapr in and out if needed.
In my tanked apoc, i warp to BM at 60km kill the 6 odd ceptors,, then kill the rest of the spawn at ease.
Even did it in a omen once :P
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:48:00 -
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Feel a response is due to the all-to-familiar flames of noobs etc. Go do some Cal Navy LvL 4 missions alone and see how u get on...then come back and flame me. If you can't think of something positive to add then don't.
Agreed that some of the missions are doable alone...but most aren't. I would just like to think that there is an opportunity in the game for freelancing. I have spent a heap of time getting my Cal Navy sec rating up to a level where I can accept lvl 4 missions and am just a bit frustrated that I can't do them alone. There is a quantum leap between the difficulty in lvl 3 agent to lvl 4. I can't judge if a mission can be done alone until I accept it...and then I take a hit on my sec if I then decline it.
BTW...thanks for all the offers of help...
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:48:00 -
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Feel a response is due to the all-to-familiar flames of noobs etc. Go do some Cal Navy LvL 4 missions alone and see how u get on...then come back and flame me. If you can't think of something positive to add then don't.
Agreed that some of the missions are doable alone...but most aren't. I would just like to think that there is an opportunity in the game for freelancing. I have spent a heap of time getting my Cal Navy sec rating up to a level where I can accept lvl 4 missions and am just a bit frustrated that I can't do them alone. There is a quantum leap between the difficulty in lvl 3 agent to lvl 4. I can't judge if a mission can be done alone until I accept it...and then I take a hit on my sec if I then decline it.
BTW...thanks for all the offers of help...
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:52:00 -
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being unable to gangwarp to a mission BM is a problem if u ask me.
But lvl4 missions are for groups. People whining about soloing, go do lvl 3 missions, or hire some wingmen.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.11.26 11:52:00 -
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being unable to gangwarp to a mission BM is a problem if u ask me.
But lvl4 missions are for groups. People whining about soloing, go do lvl 3 missions, or hire some wingmen.
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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Illegal
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:07:00 -
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 Originally by: JimmySav
being unable to gangwarp to a mission BM is a problem if u ask me.
But lvl4 missions are for groups. People whining about soloing, go do lvl 3 missions, or hire some wingmen.
Even doing missions with someone else is too hard. Me and a mate ,both experienced with npc hunting agreed to do missions togheter. the first two were ok and a bit fun. He was in a Raven and I was in a sniper apoc. Us surviving and doing well was due to being able to mwd back to a safer distance. But the problems we faced killed alot of the fun.
Firstly like said above this post, you cant gangwarp. Its no big problem, but an annoyance. But when the other guy warp in after you, he may bump you ahead (wtf?). This happened when we went to do a deadspace mission. My mate warped in first, I warped in after and bumped him faaaaar away. So I was there alone in a well tanked apoc (or so I thought). But in 3-4 secs I was down to hull. Even with 2x accomodtions running and enough cap regen to feed a thousand horses I had no chance. Somehow I managed to warp out and that was a miracle.
If I hadent been able to keep my cool I would have lost my apoc and all my gear. (tech 2 and named, except for the guns)
Im not trying to make yet another rant, but Im very dissapointed with all this as I really looked forward to level 4 agents.
Things that should be fixed:
-Deadspace in one way or another
-One should be able to gangwarp (teaming on the missions was the idea right?)
-Fix the crappy mission rewards. (to little isk, tech2 comps was ok so far)
-Increase the bonus time (Its really hard to make it even with 2 players)
Things I like:
-Most of the missions as they were great fun to do with a mate.
-That you can see what class a ship is based on the size of the red +.
-The loot (still want it to be increased a bit, even if its not all that bad)
All in all I think this will be fixed, but for me it sucks that it wasent fixed allready. (Yes Im impatient as I just bought 6 more months of playtime)
Greets.
Illegal
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Illegal
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Posted - 2004.11.26 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: JimmySav
being unable to gangwarp to a mission BM is a problem if u ask me.
But lvl4 missions are for groups. People whining about soloing, go do lvl 3 missions, or hire some wingmen.
Even doing missions with someone else is too hard. Me and a mate ,both experienced with npc hunting agreed to do missions togheter. the first two were ok and a bit fun. He was in a Raven and I was in a sniper apoc. Us surviving and doing well was due to being able to mwd back to a safer distance. But the problems we faced killed alot of the fun.
Firstly like said above this post, you cant gangwarp. Its no big problem, but an annoyance. But when the other guy warp in after you, he may bump you ahead (wtf?). This happened when we went to do a deadspace mission. My mate warped in first, I warped in after and bumped him faaaaar away. So I was there alone in a well tanked apoc (or so I thought). But in 3-4 secs I was down to hull. Even with 2x accomodtions running and enough cap regen to feed a thousand horses I had no chance. Somehow I managed to warp out and that was a miracle.
If I hadent been able to keep my cool I would have lost my apoc and all my gear. (tech 2 and named, except for the guns)
Im not trying to make yet another rant, but Im very dissapointed with all this as I really looked forward to level 4 agents.
Things that should be fixed:
-Deadspace in one way or another
-One should be able to gangwarp (teaming on the missions was the idea right?)
-Fix the crappy mission rewards. (to little isk, tech2 comps was ok so far)
-Increase the bonus time (Its really hard to make it even with 2 players)
Things I like:
-Most of the missions as they were great fun to do with a mate.
-That you can see what class a ship is based on the size of the red +.
-The loot (still want it to be increased a bit, even if its not all that bad)
All in all I think this will be fixed, but for me it sucks that it wasent fixed allready. (Yes Im impatient as I just bought 6 more months of playtime)
Greets.
Illegal
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 26/11/2004 15:16:59
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
I was the 1st challenge Ive ever seen in EVE from an agent mission and actually made us stay on our toes as opposed to press F1-F8 and go make some food.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HARD - get a friend to help and stop whining
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 26/11/2004 15:16:59
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
I was the 1st challenge Ive ever seen in EVE from an agent mission and actually made us stay on our toes as opposed to press F1-F8 and go make some food.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HARD - get a friend to help and stop whining
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Illegal
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Posted - 2004.11.26 14:30:00 -
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Im in the same alliance as you muppet.
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Illegal
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Posted - 2004.11.26 14:30:00 -
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Im in the same alliance as you muppet.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 26/11/2004 15:22:24
Alliance ?? as who ?? .... (Im not in an alliance btw)
My post was to the poster saying they were uncompleteable ..... when they clearly are not
The bouncing issue is a bug which will be fixed, are you telling me that when you can gang warp in they are still impossible ?? Because they are not
The muppet remark hurt my feelings if it was aimed at me, Im gonna cry 
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 26/11/2004 15:22:24
Alliance ?? as who ?? .... (Im not in an alliance btw)
My post was to the poster saying they were uncompleteable ..... when they clearly are not
The bouncing issue is a bug which will be fixed, are you telling me that when you can gang warp in they are still impossible ?? Because they are not
The muppet remark hurt my feelings if it was aimed at me, Im gonna cry
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
Cry me a ******* river !!!
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
so you didn't solo it then? FYI I did complete a missile battery / sentry gun mission by myself. Maybe you could read my original post again. My point was that SOME of these are too difficult to do alone, and that there is limited opportunity for freelancing them.
Will be happy to hear your comments when you have done a few by urself.
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
Cry me a ******* river !!!
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
so you didn't solo it then? FYI I did complete a missile battery / sentry gun mission by myself. Maybe you could read my original post again. My point was that SOME of these are too difficult to do alone, and that there is limited opportunity for freelancing them.
Will be happy to hear your comments when you have done a few by urself.
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heavy Messing
Originally by: Estios
Cry me a ******* river !!!
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
so you didn't solo it then? FYI I did complete a missile battery / sentry gun mission by myself. Maybe you could read my original post again. My point was that SOME of these are too difficult to do alone, and that there is limited opportunity for freelancing them.
Will be happy to hear your comments when you have done a few by urself.
Which part of the sentence "They are not made to be done solo." don't you understand?
WTF is wrong with you, some people do them solo, others use nasty group tactics.
As for freelancing, go do lvl3 missions or find some nice 0.0 system with the odd bs spawn, but ffs stop complaining here that _YOU_ can't solo lvl4 missions. |
Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heavy Messing
Originally by: Estios
Cry me a ******* river !!!
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
so you didn't solo it then? FYI I did complete a missile battery / sentry gun mission by myself. Maybe you could read my original post again. My point was that SOME of these are too difficult to do alone, and that there is limited opportunity for freelancing them.
Will be happy to hear your comments when you have done a few by urself.
Which part of the sentence "They are not made to be done solo." don't you understand?
WTF is wrong with you, some people do them solo, others use nasty group tactics.
As for freelancing, go do lvl3 missions or find some nice 0.0 system with the odd bs spawn, but ffs stop complaining here that _YOU_ can't solo lvl4 missions. |
Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:34:00 -
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Would appreciate it if you would stop insulting me. 
I am not some 13 yr old school kid.
I got your point. Now stop posting unless you can think of something usefull to say.
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:34:00 -
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Would appreciate it if you would stop insulting me.
I am not some 13 yr old school kid.
I got your point. Now stop posting unless you can think of something usefull to say.
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:49:00 -
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Quote:
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
That was probably serpentis spies mission or the guristas one.. which i did solo.
It isn't even close to what some other dead space missions throw at you.
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:49:00 -
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Quote:
Me and 1 other guy did a lvl 4 mission last night which had Missle batteries and sentry guns firing at us.
That was probably serpentis spies mission or the guristas one.. which i did solo.
It isn't even close to what some other dead space missions throw at you.
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:51:00 -
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agreed
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:51:00 -
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agreed
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:57:00 -
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Im not sure I really need to reply, CCP stated about a bazillion times that not ALL level 4 agent missions would be for solo players ....I fail see how you are unable to grasp that ??
If I had actually wanted to and warped out and back in over and over I would have been able to solo that kill mission, I dont however expect to be able to do this for them all ...BECAUSE THATS NOT THE IDEA
Bouncing is a bug and perhaps the bonus time frames need some tweaking but to create a thread saying these missions are impossible to solo when that wasnt what they were designed for just isnt helping develop a team orientated game
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.26 15:57:00 -
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Im not sure I really need to reply, CCP stated about a bazillion times that not ALL level 4 agent missions would be for solo players ....I fail see how you are unable to grasp that ??
If I had actually wanted to and warped out and back in over and over I would have been able to solo that kill mission, I dont however expect to be able to do this for them all ...BECAUSE THATS NOT THE IDEA
Bouncing is a bug and perhaps the bonus time frames need some tweaking but to create a thread saying these missions are impossible to solo when that wasnt what they were designed for just isnt helping develop a team orientated game
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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