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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Calisto Armani
I would not worry about the odd bit of crokite in empire, but too much would take some of the 'fun' from running thru 0.0 in a hauler with rare ore
Its too early to judge, but with strip mining, mining barges, moon mining etc, maybe less ppl will venture into 0.0 anyway to make a quick profit.
i see what your saying but having a crok roid with 25k crok in it that respawns avery day and a group that can mine it clean. thats a lot of crok.. i really hope that this is a bug.
i can under stand a 6k crok roid but 25k!!
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Calisto Armani
I would not worry about the odd bit of crokite in empire, but too much would take some of the 'fun' from running thru 0.0 in a hauler with rare ore
Its too early to judge, but with strip mining, mining barges, moon mining etc, maybe less ppl will venture into 0.0 anyway to make a quick profit.
i see what your saying but having a crok roid with 25k crok in it that respawns avery day and a group that can mine it clean. thats a lot of crok.. i really hope that this is a bug.
i can under stand a 6k crok roid but 25k!!
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:20:00 -
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High-end ore (i've seen everything except arkonor) in empire is nothing new. It has been there since beginning... but at least we've been quiet about it:P
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hatchette
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:20:00 -
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High-end ore (i've seen everything except arkonor) in empire is nothing new. It has been there since beginning... but at least we've been quiet about it:P
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:21:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Rasputin Baba
Looks like Clankillers can't just sit and wait in Y9G for their prey to come to them, boohoo.
another happy custemer.
but tell me what crock you did mine how much did that bring you. i bet you made a killing. why? becouse it was peolpe like clankillers that made it go up in price. so tell me was it worth the risk. or is it worth mining now becouse soon it will be worth nothing
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:21:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Rasputin Baba
Looks like Clankillers can't just sit and wait in Y9G for their prey to come to them, boohoo.
another happy custemer.
but tell me what crock you did mine how much did that bring you. i bet you made a killing. why? becouse it was peolpe like clankillers that made it go up in price. so tell me was it worth the risk. or is it worth mining now becouse soon it will be worth nothing
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:23:00 -
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Yall 'pvp is about risk' guys have a lot to learn about people. Most people I talk to that want to fight but dont, dont do it because of the costs. Its *not* about risk, its not about values of stuff, its about having a good time fragging people--at least it should be. Pvp combat in this game has a rather nasty stigma, and its that I-cant-recover-if-I-die part that turns soo many people off. See, youre assuming that people who fight only do it because they have to...most people who fight do it because they want to, make everything cheaper and youll encourage more people to go out and have a fun night blowing up people and being blowed up.
Ultimately it comes down to whether or not CCP wants an open-combat situation where people fight all the time and have fun doing it, or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it. One sounds like a great time, other sounds like a recipe for lots of mainstream gamers to get real sick of it and quit.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:23:00 -
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Yall 'pvp is about risk' guys have a lot to learn about people. Most people I talk to that want to fight but dont, dont do it because of the costs. Its *not* about risk, its not about values of stuff, its about having a good time fragging people--at least it should be. Pvp combat in this game has a rather nasty stigma, and its that I-cant-recover-if-I-die part that turns soo many people off. See, youre assuming that people who fight only do it because they have to...most people who fight do it because they want to, make everything cheaper and youll encourage more people to go out and have a fun night blowing up people and being blowed up.
Ultimately it comes down to whether or not CCP wants an open-combat situation where people fight all the time and have fun doing it, or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it. One sounds like a great time, other sounds like a recipe for lots of mainstream gamers to get real sick of it and quit.
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[SAK] And Proud Of It!
aka Cpt Bogus
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:24:00 -
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Looks like the whinging carebears have got their way. If you can get megacyte and zydrine in Empire, there's no reason for the carebears to go to low sec or 0.0 to take the risk in order to get the big rewards (since they already get the BS rats in Empire too).
Time for Eve to become consentual pvp only?
25k of crokite in one roid!?!?! That's as much as you'd see in a whole asteroid field in 0.0 with dangerous rats guarding it, and you can be damn sure it wouldn't respawn the whole 25k over downtime!
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:24:00 -
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Looks like the whinging carebears have got their way. If you can get megacyte and zydrine in Empire, there's no reason for the carebears to go to low sec or 0.0 to take the risk in order to get the big rewards (since they already get the BS rats in Empire too).
Time for Eve to become consentual pvp only?
25k of crokite in one roid!?!?! That's as much as you'd see in a whole asteroid field in 0.0 with dangerous rats guarding it, and you can be damn sure it wouldn't respawn the whole 25k over downtime!
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Big on 26/11/2004 13:33:11
Edited by: Dark Big on 26/11/2004 13:30:11
or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it
well insure it dumy
pirats have no money but yet how do thay keep fight when thay lose a ship
thay insure there ships. so that there losses are vary little..
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:25:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Dark Big on 26/11/2004 13:33:11
Edited by: Dark Big on 26/11/2004 13:30:11
or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it
well insure it dumy
pirats have no money but yet how do thay keep fight when thay lose a ship
thay insure there ships. so that there losses are vary little..
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Slaatibartfast
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:29:00 -
[103]
"(maxheadroom) found that roid and mined it the first day. On the 2nd day it grew to 27k then mined another 2k of it. Hehe"
Think I'll run for cover before the conomy comes crashing down on my head 
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Slaatibartfast
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:29:00 -
[104]
"(maxheadroom) found that roid and mined it the first day. On the 2nd day it grew to 27k then mined another 2k of it. Hehe"
Think I'll run for cover before the conomy comes crashing down on my head
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:32:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Slaatibartfast
"(maxheadroom) found that roid and mined it the first day. On the 2nd day it grew to 27k then mined another 2k of it. Hehe"
Think I'll run for cover before the conomy comes crashing down on my head
lol
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:32:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Slaatibartfast
"(maxheadroom) found that roid and mined it the first day. On the 2nd day it grew to 27k then mined another 2k of it. Hehe"
Think I'll run for cover before the conomy comes crashing down on my head
lol
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:32:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Del Narveux
Yall 'pvp is about risk' guys have a lot to learn about people. Most people I talk to that want to fight but dont, dont do it because of the costs. Its *not* about risk, its not about values of stuff, its about having a good time fragging people--at least it should be. Pvp combat in this game has a rather nasty stigma, and its that I-cant-recover-if-I-die part that turns soo many people off. See, youre assuming that people who fight only do it because they have to...most people who fight do it because they want to, make everything cheaper and youll encourage more people to go out and have a fun night blowing up people and being blowed up.
Ultimately it comes down to whether or not CCP wants an open-combat situation where people fight all the time and have fun doing it, or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it. One sounds like a great time, other sounds like a recipe for lots of mainstream gamers to get real sick of it and quit.
Fragging people? Sounds like you really want to play HL2 or a game like that. "Oh no, just lost my Raven. Want me to bring out one of my Megathrons this time, or will I try a Raven again? How about you stand there and I'll time how long it takes me to kill you, sure I'll give you another battleship when you're dead." Is this the kind of ideal you'd like to see?
This game is (or was) based around risk vs reward. What value is there on a BS if you can take it out, get it blown up, then just pick up a new one right away at almost no cost? Why would anyone bother flying anything but battleships in pvp and why would anyone really care if they lost a ship, since you could never really inflict any loss on someone since they basically just respawn with a brand new battleship?
No-one forces you to fight (since you're in a newbie corp). You make the decision yourself to expose yourself to the danger by going into low sec or 0.0 systems. Otherwise you are always going to be protected by Concord, since no-one can ever declare war on you.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:32:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Del Narveux
Yall 'pvp is about risk' guys have a lot to learn about people. Most people I talk to that want to fight but dont, dont do it because of the costs. Its *not* about risk, its not about values of stuff, its about having a good time fragging people--at least it should be. Pvp combat in this game has a rather nasty stigma, and its that I-cant-recover-if-I-die part that turns soo many people off. See, youre assuming that people who fight only do it because they have to...most people who fight do it because they want to, make everything cheaper and youll encourage more people to go out and have a fun night blowing up people and being blowed up.
Ultimately it comes down to whether or not CCP wants an open-combat situation where people fight all the time and have fun doing it, or a situation where someone works 6 months for their BS and never take it out of dock for fear of losing it. One sounds like a great time, other sounds like a recipe for lots of mainstream gamers to get real sick of it and quit.
Fragging people? Sounds like you really want to play HL2 or a game like that. "Oh no, just lost my Raven. Want me to bring out one of my Megathrons this time, or will I try a Raven again? How about you stand there and I'll time how long it takes me to kill you, sure I'll give you another battleship when you're dead." Is this the kind of ideal you'd like to see?
This game is (or was) based around risk vs reward. What value is there on a BS if you can take it out, get it blown up, then just pick up a new one right away at almost no cost? Why would anyone bother flying anything but battleships in pvp and why would anyone really care if they lost a ship, since you could never really inflict any loss on someone since they basically just respawn with a brand new battleship?
No-one forces you to fight (since you're in a newbie corp). You make the decision yourself to expose yourself to the danger by going into low sec or 0.0 systems. Otherwise you are always going to be protected by Concord, since no-one can ever declare war on you.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:38:00 -
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if and when ship prices drop due to zydrine being in empire (unless its just a bug and is removed) loosing a bs will hurt less than it already does, there in no fun in fighting if their is no risk involved.
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:38:00 -
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if and when ship prices drop due to zydrine being in empire (unless its just a bug and is removed) loosing a bs will hurt less than it already does, there in no fun in fighting if their is no risk involved.
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:44:00 -
[111]
I beg to differ, people will be able to afford more ships and when they feel secure there they'll invest in stations and then you have to fight.
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:44:00 -
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I beg to differ, people will be able to afford more ships and when they feel secure there they'll invest in stations and then you have to fight.
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:48:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Rasputin Baba
I beg to differ, people will be able to afford more ships and when they feel secure there they'll invest in stations and then you have to fight.
dude don't think that stations will cost a bunch it will be the same cheap and easy to replace. only thing that is going to cost is what is needed to run them the base mins and the high ends (zydrine) will be cheaper then ever befor
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:48:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Rasputin Baba
I beg to differ, people will be able to afford more ships and when they feel secure there they'll invest in stations and then you have to fight.
dude don't think that stations will cost a bunch it will be the same cheap and easy to replace. only thing that is going to cost is what is needed to run them the base mins and the high ends (zydrine) will be cheaper then ever befor
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:49:00 -
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Not if people fight for the empire space rocks.
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:49:00 -
[116]
Not if people fight for the empire space rocks.
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:52:00 -
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dude there is no fighting in empire. the only way you can fight is if you declare war.
it don't matter the why defend rocks that are avery where. lol
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:52:00 -
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dude there is no fighting in empire. the only way you can fight is if you declare war.
it don't matter the why defend rocks that are avery where. lol
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:57:00 -
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Me personally I'd rather fight someone in empire space than someone saying dude and lol avery time they have something to say.
Zydrines time as the most valued commodity has come and gone, the market evolves, roll with it or get rolled over.
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Rasputin Baba
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Posted - 2004.11.26 13:57:00 -
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Me personally I'd rather fight someone in empire space than someone saying dude and lol avery time they have something to say.
Zydrines time as the most valued commodity has come and gone, the market evolves, roll with it or get rolled over.
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