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Larno
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Posted - 2004.11.26 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire.
Thanks.
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Larno
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Posted - 2004.11.26 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire.
Thanks.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:05:00 -
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why you join a corp, instead of staying alone? Same reason. Bigger, stronger, bound to same goals. Easier to go together, when you know you are official part of something. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:05:00 -
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why you join a corp, instead of staying alone? Same reason. Bigger, stronger, bound to same goals. Easier to go together, when you know you are official part of something. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:15:00 -
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I guess it just makes it all official and a recognised entity in EVE, i hope you get to all have your cool logos on it too  Sass Arcane Technologies |

Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.26 19:15:00 -
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I guess it just makes it all official and a recognised entity in EVE, i hope you get to all have your cool logos on it too  Sass Arcane Technologies |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 -
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Being at war with whole alliance instead of just one corp is the whole point. If you really want to **** an alliance off, you declare war on it, meaning you can gank them in 0.0 AND in empire. What's more to ask for? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 -
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Being at war with whole alliance instead of just one corp is the whole point. If you really want to **** an alliance off, you declare war on it, meaning you can gank them in 0.0 AND in empire. What's more to ask for? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.27 00:00:00 -
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alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. ---
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.11.27 00:00:00 -
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alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.27 02:12:00 -
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I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

olyyyyy
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Posted - 2004.11.27 02:12:00 -
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I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.27 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai.
  
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.11.27 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai.
  
Eve Blacklight Style
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.11.27 03:00:00 -
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Also a pacifistic carebear alliance don't pay war cost since they are always the defenders This is I believe 1 million ISK * number of corp in alliance * number of wars an alt corp has going per week and at startup.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.11.27 03:00:00 -
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Also a pacifistic carebear alliance don't pay war cost since they are always the defenders This is I believe 1 million ISK * number of corp in alliance * number of wars an alt corp has going per week and at startup.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.11.27 06:54:00 -
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Wars cost.
Both parties...
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2004.11.27 06:54:00 -
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Wars cost.
Both parties...
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |

Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace |

LoxyRider
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Previously you would give a secure channel to those you trust, excluding new members for obvious resons. Now everyone is in the channel and you cant even see whos in there. Very easy to get an alt in a corp and get access to the alliance channel. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing 
actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Previously you would give a secure channel to those you trust, excluding new members for obvious resons. Now everyone is in the channel and you cant even see whos in there. Very easy to get an alt in a corp and get access to the alliance channel. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.27 18:15:00 -
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All we ever needed was the ability to see who is inviting whom to private channels.
I like the alliance chat though as it is good for static communications. I just hope it is able to go into moderated mode.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2004.11.27 18:15:00 -
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All we ever needed was the ability to see who is inviting whom to private channels.
I like the alliance chat though as it is good for static communications. I just hope it is able to go into moderated mode.
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.11.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Larno Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire.
Thanks.
Right now there is no benefit. All we did was pay 1 billion isk for a new chat channel and the privilege of losing empire space as a safe haven ;p.
This needs to be changed or else the alliance system will be a complete farse.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.11.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Larno Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire.
Thanks.
Right now there is no benefit. All we did was pay 1 billion isk for a new chat channel and the privilege of losing empire space as a safe haven ;p.
This needs to be changed or else the alliance system will be a complete farse.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.27 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Riiiiiight. So everyone, in every corp of an alliance is 100% not a spy or an alt for one of there enemies?
In reality I find it easier to just accept that the enemy has near perfect knowledge of what you are doing and planning. --------------------------------------------------
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.27 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it
Riiiiiight. So everyone, in every corp of an alliance is 100% not a spy or an alt for one of there enemies?
In reality I find it easier to just accept that the enemy has near perfect knowledge of what you are doing and planning. --------------------------------------------------
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Rattman
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:21:00 -
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Advantages so far
NONE
Disadvantages A 1 man corp can declare war on alliance for 1mill per week, so empire is very dangerous
Useless chat channel, no moderation
Useless alliance eve-mail, just gets spammed all day and annoysme
Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move
Rattman
All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance |

Rattman
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Posted - 2004.11.27 21:21:00 -
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Advantages so far
NONE
Disadvantages A 1 man corp can declare war on alliance for 1mill per week, so empire is very dangerous
Useless chat channel, no moderation
Useless alliance eve-mail, just gets spammed all day and annoysme
Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move
Rattman
All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance |
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