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Larno	Posted - 2004.11.26 18:40:00 - [1] Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire. Thanks.
Larno	Posted - 2004.11.26 18:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire. Thanks.
Loka	Posted - 2004.11.26 19:05:00 - [3] why you join a corp, instead of staying alone? Same reason. Bigger, stronger, bound to same goals. Easier to go together, when you know you are official part of something. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.11.26 19:05:00 - [4] why you join a corp, instead of staying alone? Same reason. Bigger, stronger, bound to same goals. Easier to go together, when you know you are official part of something. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.11.26 19:15:00 - [5] I guess it just makes it all official and a recognised entity in EVE, i hope you get to all have your cool logos on it too Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.11.26 19:15:00 - [6] I guess it just makes it all official and a recognised entity in EVE, i hope you get to all have your cool logos on it too Sass Arcane Technologies
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 - [7] Being at war with whole alliance instead of just one corp is the whole point. If you really want to **** an alliance off, you declare war on it, meaning you can gank them in 0.0 AND in empire. What's more to ask for? -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 - [8] Being at war with whole alliance instead of just one corp is the whole point. If you really want to **** an alliance off, you declare war on it, meaning you can gank them in 0.0 AND in empire. What's more to ask for? -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.27 00:00:00 - [9] alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.27 00:00:00 - [10] alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
olyyyyy	Posted - 2004.11.27 02:12:00 - [11] I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
olyyyyy	Posted - 2004.11.27 02:12:00 - [12] I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.11.27 02:28:00 - [13] Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.11.27 02:28:00 - [14] Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. Eve Blacklight Style
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:00:00 - [15] Also a pacifistic carebear alliance don't pay war cost since they are always the defenders This is I believe 1 million ISK * number of corp in alliance * number of wars an alt corp has going per week and at startup. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:00:00 - [16] Also a pacifistic carebear alliance don't pay war cost since they are always the defenders This is I believe 1 million ISK * number of corp in alliance * number of wars an alt corp has going per week and at startup. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.11.27 06:54:00 - [17] Wars cost. Both parties... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 485937 \|
Ray McCormack	Posted - 2004.11.27 06:54:00 - [18] Wars cost. Both parties... \| The BIG Lottery \| The BIG Deal \| 485937 \|
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2004.11.27 17:03:00 - [19] Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2004.11.27 17:03:00 - [20] Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace
LoxyRider	Posted - 2004.11.27 17:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Previously you would give a secure channel to those you trust, excluding new members for obvious resons. Now everyone is in the channel and you cant even see whos in there. Very easy to get an alt in a corp and get access to the alliance channel. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
LoxyRider	Posted - 2004.11.27 17:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Daniel Jackson Originally by: olyyyyy I'm still trying to find out what being in an alliance structure brings, except a lot of alts corps wars in empire space. You get: -an alliance channel with a good 100% chance to get spies in it. -an alliance mail system that doesn't send mails to people offline and keeps getting you spammed of crap when online. -alliance logo soonÖ (let's hope a month max) -recognition ? Well we all know SA tho there is no Stain Alliance created yet... Also concerning POS (main interest of being an alliance I guess)... Seems like we have from time to time get supplies from empire space which incredibly sucks imo (sorry Yulai, it's over between us, I don't love you anymore, I want to live in 0.0). Also the variety of ores in Ice fields in 0.0 sucks (only minnies CT in XF space for example)... Something is missing actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Previously you would give a secure channel to those you trust, excluding new members for obvious resons. Now everyone is in the channel and you cant even see whos in there. Very easy to get an alt in a corp and get access to the alliance channel. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
Lygos	Posted - 2004.11.27 18:15:00 - [23] All we ever needed was the ability to see who is inviting whom to private channels. I like the alliance chat though as it is good for static communications. I just hope it is able to go into moderated mode.
Lygos	Posted - 2004.11.27 18:15:00 - [24] All we ever needed was the ability to see who is inviting whom to private channels. I like the alliance chat though as it is good for static communications. I just hope it is able to go into moderated mode.
Baun	Posted - 2004.11.27 19:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Larno Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire. Thanks. Right now there is no benefit. All we did was pay 1 billion isk for a new chat channel and the privilege of losing empire space as a safe haven ;p. This needs to be changed or else the alliance system will be a complete farse. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun	Posted - 2004.11.27 19:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Larno Edited by: Larno on 26/11/2004 18:43:12 Could someone tell me why they would want to set up an alliance instead of keeping corps separate? Seems to me that it just makes you an easier target in empire. Thanks. Right now there is no benefit. All we did was pay 1 billion isk for a new chat channel and the privilege of losing empire space as a safe haven ;p. This needs to be changed or else the alliance system will be a complete farse. The Enemy's Gate is Down
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.27 19:53:00 - [27] Originally by: Daniel Jackson actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Riiiiiight. So everyone, in every corp of an alliance is 100% not a spy or an alt for one of there enemies? In reality I find it easier to just accept that the enemy has near perfect knowledge of what you are doing and planning. --------------------------------------------------
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.27 19:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Daniel Jackson actualy the alliance chant cant get spys in it Riiiiiight. So everyone, in every corp of an alliance is 100% not a spy or an alt for one of there enemies? In reality I find it easier to just accept that the enemy has near perfect knowledge of what you are doing and planning. --------------------------------------------------
Rattman	Posted - 2004.11.27 21:21:00 - [29] Advantages so far NONE Disadvantages A 1 man corp can declare war on alliance for 1mill per week, so empire is very dangerous Useless chat channel, no moderation Useless alliance eve-mail, just gets spammed all day and annoysme Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance
Rattman	Posted - 2004.11.27 21:21:00 - [30] Advantages so far NONE Disadvantages A 1 man corp can declare war on alliance for 1mill per week, so empire is very dangerous Useless chat channel, no moderation Useless alliance eve-mail, just gets spammed all day and annoysme Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.11.27 22:02:00 - [31] Edited by: Cowboy on 27/11/2004 22:09:13 Quote: Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move IMO, a smart but spineless move. Yeah, im just looking for easy empire ganks since, since I'm trash at PvP in 0.0 "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.11.27 22:02:00 - [32] Edited by: Cowboy on 27/11/2004 22:09:13 Quote: Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move IMO, a smart but spineless move. Yeah, im just looking for easy empire ganks since, since I'm trash at PvP in 0.0 "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Syvryn	Posted - 2004.11.27 23:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Cowboy Edited by: Cowboy on 27/11/2004 22:09:13 Quote: Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move IMO, a smart but spineless move. Yeah, im just looking for easy empire ganks since, since I'm trash at PvP in 0.0 dude i think his point was that why should an alliance submit all of it's noob's/industrial/carebear ppl in empire space to be a giant target for every enemy/pirate/merc corp in the game? it's not like any of the .0 ppl want to come to empire we all have better things to do in this game the money isn't that good and it isn't our territory
Syvryn	Posted - 2004.11.27 23:05:00 - [34] Originally by: Cowboy Edited by: Cowboy on 27/11/2004 22:09:13 Quote: Seems Sa is the only major power to not yet start an alliance. seems like a good move IMO, a smart but spineless move. Yeah, im just looking for easy empire ganks since, since I'm trash at PvP in 0.0 dude i think his point was that why should an alliance submit all of it's noob's/industrial/carebear ppl in empire space to be a giant target for every enemy/pirate/merc corp in the game? it's not like any of the .0 ppl want to come to empire we all have better things to do in this game the money isn't that good and it isn't our territory
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.28 00:20:00 - [35] deserves a big bump! only use of alliances are beeing easy and cheap target in empire (as stupidly you don't pay for ppl/corps you can attack, but only for the ppl in agressor corp.... sense any1? either make it the other way round or make it alliance vs alliance \| corp vs corp.... and keep thoose things seperate... ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.28 00:20:00 - [36] deserves a big bump! only use of alliances are beeing easy and cheap target in empire (as stupidly you don't pay for ppl/corps you can attack, but only for the ppl in agressor corp.... sense any1? either make it the other way round or make it alliance vs alliance \| corp vs corp.... and keep thoose things seperate... ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2004.11.28 00:22:00 - [37] i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2004.11.28 00:22:00 - [38] i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2004.11.28 05:54:00 - [39] Originally by: Daniel Jackson i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Marry me plz cause I will never find someone more hilarious.
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2004.11.28 05:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Daniel Jackson i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Marry me plz cause I will never find someone more hilarious.
zeroh	Posted - 2004.11.28 06:38:00 - [41] Imo alliances are suppose to big and powerful and so having a couple wars is good imo they shouldnt have to cower and use stealth since they do outnumber everyone by like alot lol http://www.botoxbandits.net/evekill/index.php
zeroh	Posted - 2004.11.28 06:38:00 - [42] Imo alliances are suppose to big and powerful and so having a couple wars is good imo they shouldnt have to cower and use stealth since they do outnumber everyone by like alot lol http://www.botoxbandits.net/evekill/index.php
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.11.28 06:54:00 - [43] Originally by: zeroh Imo alliances are suppose to big and powerful and so having a couple wars is good imo they shouldnt have to cower and use stealth since they do outnumber everyone by like alot lol Agreed 110%, but im sure some big "alliance" in the south will come up with another lame excuse as to why they will not make an official in-game alliance. Heck all the other power house alliances have formed up. Grow a pair. cripes did I just agree with Zeroh "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
Cowboy	Posted - 2004.11.28 06:54:00 - [44] Originally by: zeroh Imo alliances are suppose to big and powerful and so having a couple wars is good imo they shouldnt have to cower and use stealth since they do outnumber everyone by like alot lol Agreed 110%, but im sure some big "alliance" in the south will come up with another lame excuse as to why they will not make an official in-game alliance. Heck all the other power house alliances have formed up. Grow a pair. cripes did I just agree with Zeroh "Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
F'nog	Posted - 2004.11.28 07:17:00 - [45] Originally by: Daniel Jackson i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Actually, it's 1 BILLION ISK. So start saving now.
F'nog	Posted - 2004.11.28 07:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Daniel Jackson i love the new alliance system and even right now atm were working on a cortp and were defulente gonna use the new alliance featcher NO MATTER what the cost is even idf its like 200milisk i dont care i just want the OFFFICIALalliance just to be well OFFICIAL Actually, it's 1 BILLION ISK. So start saving now.
Lord Draco	Posted - 2004.11.28 08:03:00 - [47] I'd gladly do joint ops with SA aginst CELEST. Time from them to go from mass-safespot, to mass-logoff.
Lord Draco	Posted - 2004.11.28 08:03:00 - [48] I'd gladly do joint ops with SA aginst CELEST. Time from them to go from mass-safespot, to mass-logoff.
EB Xile	Posted - 2004.11.28 11:42:00 - [49] Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. Funny you mention that, earlier today, some alliance m8s and I were in Yulai getting ready to gank Stetu's (some Burning Eden member) Apoc. We warped in and had him locked down and everything. We made a piece meal out of him, all of us saw the explosion, and I started targeting his pod. Here's the local: [ 2004.11.28 07:37:43 ] Stetu > HIT MY TANK CMON!! ITS HOT! [ 2004.11.28 07:37:50 ] Grim > yar yar yar [ 2004.11.28 07:38:10 ] Domnhal II > not us LOL [ 2004.11.28 07:38:13 ] Ghelp > meep meep [ 2004.11.28 07:38:16 ] Stetu > ** you guys got me on this one [ 2004.11.28 07:38:33 ] pacifica > lol [ 2004.11.28 07:38:44 ] Stetu > Nice kill boys i've got to admit very ing nice [ 2004.11.28 07:38:55 ] Grim > come out come out whereever you are u lovely war targets ...Anyway, a few seconds later, Yulai comes off it's hinges, and our whole gang gets booted off Eve. We were pretty far into congratulating ourselves on some excellent teamwork when we log back on and see this in local: [ 2004.11.28 07:45:42 ] Persia > we crashed yulai? [ 2004.11.28 07:45:44 ] Persia > awesome :) [ 2004.11.28 07:47:01 ] EB Xile > was fun [ 2004.11.28 07:47:16 ] Stetu > LOOK AT MY SHIPO!! AHAHAHAHAHAH [ 2004.11.28 07:47:26 ] Stetu > LOOK AT IT LOOK AT IT LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK [ 2004.11.28 07:47:31 ] Stetu > LOOK AT MY SHIP ALL OF YOU LOOK AIT IT [ 2004.11.28 07:47:34 ] Persia > yeah, i have no armour damage :( [ 2004.11.28 07:47:37 ] Stetu > AHAHAHAHAHA [ 2004.11.28 07:47:39 ] Grim > **ing war targets wont fight [ 2004.11.28 07:47:41 ] Equinox II > WTF????? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:42 ] Persia > you didnt lose your apoc right stet? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:49 ] Stetu > YOU SAW IT BLOW UP [ 2004.11.28 07:47:54 ] Stetu > YOU SAW IT [ 2004.11.28 07:47:55 ] Domnhal II > who ya at war with Grim? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:56 ] Persia > :) [ 2004.11.28 07:47:57 ] thedragoon > BUT ITS BACK! [ 2004.11.28 07:47:59 ] Equinox II > omfg.. [ 2004.11.28 07:47:59 ] Stetu > I r god [ 2004.11.28 07:48:01 ] Grim > 25 corps [ 2004.11.28 07:48:04 ] Persia > hahaha this is awesome :) [ 2004.11.28 07:48:05 ] Equinox II > OMFG... [ 2004.11.28 07:48:05 ] Stetu > THE APOC THAT WILL NEVER DIE [ 2004.11.28 07:48:06 ] Grim > to much to name [ 2004.11.28 07:48:09 ] Persia > resurrection :) [ 2004.11.28 07:48:09 ] Equinox II > loooooooooool [ 2004.11.28 07:48:15 ] Stetu > LONG LIVE STETUS APOC Every member checked, and sure enough, none of us found a kill mail in their box. Looks like an eve-crash just costed us a battleship kill =( The lesson? CCP needs to alloit more resources to certain key empire systems. I'm no rocket scientist, but I think they could do that. Anyway, until next time Stetu you got off easy...lucky bastard _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up!
EB Xile	Posted - 2004.11.28 11:42:00 - [50] Originally by: KIAInkZ alliance wars are there so we can try and crash yulai. Funny you mention that, earlier today, some alliance m8s and I were in Yulai getting ready to gank Stetu's (some Burning Eden member) Apoc. We warped in and had him locked down and everything. We made a piece meal out of him, all of us saw the explosion, and I started targeting his pod. Here's the local: [ 2004.11.28 07:37:43 ] Stetu > HIT MY TANK CMON!! ITS HOT! [ 2004.11.28 07:37:50 ] Grim > yar yar yar [ 2004.11.28 07:38:10 ] Domnhal II > not us LOL [ 2004.11.28 07:38:13 ] Ghelp > meep meep [ 2004.11.28 07:38:16 ] Stetu > ** you guys got me on this one [ 2004.11.28 07:38:33 ] pacifica > lol [ 2004.11.28 07:38:44 ] Stetu > Nice kill boys i've got to admit very ing nice [ 2004.11.28 07:38:55 ] Grim > come out come out whereever you are u lovely war targets ...Anyway, a few seconds later, Yulai comes off it's hinges, and our whole gang gets booted off Eve. We were pretty far into congratulating ourselves on some excellent teamwork when we log back on and see this in local: [ 2004.11.28 07:45:42 ] Persia > we crashed yulai? [ 2004.11.28 07:45:44 ] Persia > awesome :) [ 2004.11.28 07:47:01 ] EB Xile > was fun [ 2004.11.28 07:47:16 ] Stetu > LOOK AT MY SHIPO!! AHAHAHAHAHAH [ 2004.11.28 07:47:26 ] Stetu > LOOK AT IT LOOK AT IT LOOK LOOK LOOK LOOK [ 2004.11.28 07:47:31 ] Stetu > LOOK AT MY SHIP ALL OF YOU LOOK AIT IT [ 2004.11.28 07:47:34 ] Persia > yeah, i have no armour damage :( [ 2004.11.28 07:47:37 ] Stetu > AHAHAHAHAHA [ 2004.11.28 07:47:39 ] Grim > **ing war targets wont fight [ 2004.11.28 07:47:41 ] Equinox II > WTF????? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:42 ] Persia > you didnt lose your apoc right stet? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:49 ] Stetu > YOU SAW IT BLOW UP [ 2004.11.28 07:47:54 ] Stetu > YOU SAW IT [ 2004.11.28 07:47:55 ] Domnhal II > who ya at war with Grim? [ 2004.11.28 07:47:56 ] Persia > :) [ 2004.11.28 07:47:57 ] thedragoon > BUT ITS BACK! [ 2004.11.28 07:47:59 ] Equinox II > omfg.. [ 2004.11.28 07:47:59 ] Stetu > I r god [ 2004.11.28 07:48:01 ] Grim > 25 corps [ 2004.11.28 07:48:04 ] Persia > hahaha this is awesome :) [ 2004.11.28 07:48:05 ] Equinox II > OMFG... [ 2004.11.28 07:48:05 ] Stetu > THE APOC THAT WILL NEVER DIE [ 2004.11.28 07:48:06 ] Grim > to much to name [ 2004.11.28 07:48:09 ] Persia > resurrection :) [ 2004.11.28 07:48:09 ] Equinox II > loooooooooool [ 2004.11.28 07:48:15 ] Stetu > LONG LIVE STETUS APOC Every member checked, and sure enough, none of us found a kill mail in their box. Looks like an eve-crash just costed us a battleship kill =( The lesson? CCP needs to alloit more resources to certain key empire systems. I'm no rocket scientist, but I think they could do that. Anyway, until next time Stetu you got off easy...lucky bastard _______________________________________________ Don't look at me like that, you knew I was posion when you picked me up!
Tibbles	Posted - 2004.11.28 12:51:00 - [51] Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve?
Tibbles	Posted - 2004.11.28 12:51:00 - [52] Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.11.28 14:07:00 - [53] Originally by: Tibbles Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve? Itll get fixed once CCP changes the Warp Declaration cost. Currently its only 1 mill per week to start a war vs an alliance. It was supposed to be: "1millAmout of Alliance corpsAmount of wars you have" Or so i thought. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.11.28 14:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Tibbles Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve? Itll get fixed once CCP changes the Warp Declaration cost. Currently its only 1 mill per week to start a war vs an alliance. It was supposed to be: "1millAmout of Alliance corpsAmount of wars you have" Or so i thought. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
qtip	Posted - 2004.11.28 16:04:00 - [55] my opinion: the new alliance feature is about 0.0 space, building POS and claiming space. if so many have problems with empire-war-decs maybe a 0.0 alliance is not the right thing for them. why be in an alliance when they are in empire most of the time. btw, there are agents and veld in 0.0 too.
qtip	Posted - 2004.11.28 16:04:00 - [56] my opinion: the new alliance feature is about 0.0 space, building POS and claiming space. if so many have problems with empire-war-decs maybe a 0.0 alliance is not the right thing for them. why be in an alliance when they are in empire most of the time. btw, there are agents and veld in 0.0 too.
Larno	Posted - 2004.11.28 16:25:00 - [57] I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P
Larno	Posted - 2004.11.28 16:25:00 - [58] I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P
Kaiser	Posted - 2004.11.28 17:36:00 - [59] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Tibbles Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve? Itll get fixed once CCP changes the Warp Declaration cost. Currently its only 1 mill per week to start a war vs an alliance. It was supposed to be: "1millAmout of Alliance corpsAmount of wars you have" Or so i thought. sorry, but it wasn't supposed that way. it is spposed the way it is implemented. You count the corps of the declarer (the one who declare war.) Alliance counts as a single entity when comes to fight, as it should. if you can't handle that, simply don't create an alliance.
Kaiser	Posted - 2004.11.28 17:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Tibbles Having seen the beginnings of the effect of this, I agree Larno. I am/was in a member corp of a large alliance. We link into the alliance yesterday and BOOM: Suddenly we realise half the people at gates in our area of 1.0 space are PvPers with good sec standing waiting to ambush newbs and passing members from alliances they've declared war on. Mucho people with good sec standing and various types of skulls and crossbones in their corp logos locking on to my frig and trying to warp scramble me as I jump along the insta-BM route I made for my hauler to reach safety at our corp empire offices. So our corp is haemorrhaging newbs and non-PvPers while aggressive PvP corps reap a bonanza. Guess what that'll do to game balance in a few weeks' time, when corps realise no-holds-barred antisocial PvP has become the only way to succeed in Eve? Itll get fixed once CCP changes the Warp Declaration cost. Currently its only 1 mill per week to start a war vs an alliance. It was supposed to be: "1millAmout of Alliance corpsAmount of wars you have" Or so i thought. sorry, but it wasn't supposed that way. it is spposed the way it is implemented. You count the corps of the declarer (the one who declare war.) Alliance counts as a single entity when comes to fight, as it should. if you can't handle that, simply don't create an alliance.
olyyyyy	Posted - 2004.11.28 18:07:00 - [61] Originally by: Larno I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P Not enough. Ice ore in empire space has 5 times more racial isotope than ore in 0.0... So basicly even with -50% maintenence cost it's still more interesting to build POS in empire space than in 0.0... The Exodus has shrugs begun. In the wrong direction. Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
olyyyyy	Posted - 2004.11.28 18:07:00 - [62] Originally by: Larno I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P Not enough. Ice ore in empire space has 5 times more racial isotope than ore in 0.0... So basicly even with -50% maintenence cost it's still more interesting to build POS in empire space than in 0.0... The Exodus has shrugs begun. In the wrong direction. Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.28 19:16:00 - [63] Originally by: olyyyyy Originally by: Larno I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P Not enough. Ice ore in empire space has 5 times more racial isotope than ore in 0.0... So basicly even with -50% maintenence cost it's still more interesting to build POS in empire space than in 0.0... The Exodus has shrugs begun. In the wrong direction. what he said ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.28 19:16:00 - [64] Originally by: olyyyyy Originally by: Larno I think a good bonus would be -50% maintenence costs for POS that are setup in your alliances 'claimed' systems. And then on top of that you need to have your POS running at normal costs for 1 week tot get to this level. HMM. :P Not enough. Ice ore in empire space has 5 times more racial isotope than ore in 0.0... So basicly even with -50% maintenence cost it's still more interesting to build POS in empire space than in 0.0... The Exodus has shrugs begun. In the wrong direction. what he said ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Del Torres	Posted - 2004.11.28 23:48:00 - [65] Originally by: Kaiser You count the corps of the declarer (the one who declare war.) Originally by: Kaiser Alliance counts as a single entity when comes to fight, as it should. You say alliances count as one entity ? So tell me why should this single entity pay for each corp inside when they declare a war to others ? Kinda one sided view you got here... Since beta of EvE :: The BIG Lottery :: want to win ISK ?
Del Torres	Posted - 2004.11.28 23:48:00 - [66] Originally by: Kaiser You count the corps of the declarer (the one who declare war.) Originally by: Kaiser Alliance counts as a single entity when comes to fight, as it should. You say alliances count as one entity ? So tell me why should this single entity pay for each corp inside when they declare a war to others ? Kinda one sided view you got here... Since beta of EvE :: The BIG Lottery :: want to win ISK ?
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2004.11.29 08:26:00 - [67] I've got an RP problem with the current war system. Concord acknowledges alliances, yet they allow corps to declare war on us? I can't declare war on the sucky amarr empire for 1mil a week can i? Anyway, i hope ccp realise how unbalanced this is atm and rethinks the whole war system. The current system will only lead to alt corps, as no mission runner in empire wants to be target for corp wars if he's not a pvper. Alliance PvP people are mostly in 0.0, you want to fight an alliance, come to 0.0. Going for the empire targets that don't pvp just shows a lack of balls on your side, not on the alliance side.
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2004.11.29 08:26:00 - [68] I've got an RP problem with the current war system. Concord acknowledges alliances, yet they allow corps to declare war on us? I can't declare war on the sucky amarr empire for 1mil a week can i? Anyway, i hope ccp realise how unbalanced this is atm and rethinks the whole war system. The current system will only lead to alt corps, as no mission runner in empire wants to be target for corp wars if he's not a pvper. Alliance PvP people are mostly in 0.0, you want to fight an alliance, come to 0.0. Going for the empire targets that don't pvp just shows a lack of balls on your side, not on the alliance side.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:44:00 - [69] How about there be a setup fee for declaring normal wars from a corporation, too? Based on who they are declaring war on? So, one off fee of, say, 10m isk to declare war on a corporation, then 2m a week. 100m isk to declare war on an alliance, then 2m a week?
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:44:00 - [70] How about there be a setup fee for declaring normal wars from a corporation, too? Based on who they are declaring war on? So, one off fee of, say, 10m isk to declare war on a corporation, then 2m a week. 100m isk to declare war on an alliance, then 2m a week?
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:34:00 - [71] Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 29/11/2004 10:37:28 how about just switching the costs? why not make the alliance pay for the wars it has been declared? it's been the ebil one so they have to pay.... hint for some: -sarcasm included honestly, alliances have to pay 1m per corp per month or per week (dunno), why should the declarer not pay for corps per alliance? OR just limit the number of wars, corps/alliances can declare war on one alliance(/corp(s)), as otherwise thoose corps could simply form a alliance and declare war on that alliance then! again leads to alliance vs. alliance only and corp vs. corp only wars.... ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:34:00 - [72] Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 29/11/2004 10:37:28 how about just switching the costs? why not make the alliance pay for the wars it has been declared? it's been the ebil one so they have to pay.... hint for some: -sarcasm included honestly, alliances have to pay 1m per corp per month or per week (dunno), why should the declarer not pay for corps per alliance? OR just limit the number of wars, corps/alliances can declare war on one alliance(/corp(s)), as otherwise thoose corps could simply form a alliance and declare war on that alliance then! again leads to alliance vs. alliance only and corp vs. corp only wars.... ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Loka	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:41:00 - [73] you forget one. Beeing in an alliance doesnt mean to be bound to 0.0 space. Sometimes you want to do different stuff because you are a bit bored. Probably Agentmissions, or shoping in Empire. Probably you want to buy new skills, or new modules or bring some loot/minerals back to empire to sell them. But atm you can only travel in frigs to empire. Because anything else will be ganked fast. Not by 1 corp but by dozens in all systems. Its like beeing member of CA and have to travel through SA space to reach empire. Its redicilous and demoralising. And i have absolutly no interest to camp Empire and kill noobs/miners all the day. Atm it is the case, that the full alliance, must sit in their own space and do all things, that they have done before in their own space. They have to mine Veldspar, Kernite and other low end roids in systems, where they have BS spawns. Dont you find it a bit too much? You have to build a full economy like in empire in your 0.0 space. Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:41:00 - [74] you forget one. Beeing in an alliance doesnt mean to be bound to 0.0 space. Sometimes you want to do different stuff because you are a bit bored. Probably Agentmissions, or shoping in Empire. Probably you want to buy new skills, or new modules or bring some loot/minerals back to empire to sell them. But atm you can only travel in frigs to empire. Because anything else will be ganked fast. Not by 1 corp but by dozens in all systems. Its like beeing member of CA and have to travel through SA space to reach empire. Its redicilous and demoralising. And i have absolutly no interest to camp Empire and kill noobs/miners all the day. Atm it is the case, that the full alliance, must sit in their own space and do all things, that they have done before in their own space. They have to mine Veldspar, Kernite and other low end roids in systems, where they have BS spawns. Dont you find it a bit too much? You have to build a full economy like in empire in your 0.0 space. Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Jris erintaki	Posted - 2004.11.29 11:20:00 - [75] Originally by: Loka Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. ok. just do NOT create an alliance. you know, none obliges you to. you can go on as you were before shiva. People in empire can't enter your space or you kill them. they got a job 8-10k a day as well. Alliance= creating a Nation, recognized by the game. Yes it is time consuming. as it is running a POS or making money if you are out of 0.0. Since you are the same guys saying that people who play in empire are carebears, i would have expected by you some coherence at least.
Jris erintaki	Posted - 2004.11.29 11:20:00 - [76] Originally by: Loka Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. ok. just do NOT create an alliance. you know, none obliges you to. you can go on as you were before shiva. People in empire can't enter your space or you kill them. they got a job 8-10k a day as well. Alliance= creating a Nation, recognized by the game. Yes it is time consuming. as it is running a POS or making money if you are out of 0.0. Since you are the same guys saying that people who play in empire are carebears, i would have expected by you some coherence at least.
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.29 13:42:00 - [77] Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 29/11/2004 13:50:58 Originally by: Jris erintaki Originally by: Loka Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. ok. just do NOT create an alliance. you know, none obliges you to. you can go on as you were before shiva. People in empire can't enter your space or you kill them. they got a job 8-10k a day as well. Alliance= creating a Nation, recognized by the game. Yes it is time consuming. as it is running a POS or making money if you are out of 0.0. Since you are the same guys saying that people who play in empire are carebears, i would have expected by you some coherence at least. and what would be the reason then? leads into useless PoS again.... look at PoS thread.... btw... u think all ppl in the 0.0 alliances play the game 4h per day at least? LoL! ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
Domatavus Fallatus	Posted - 2004.11.29 13:42:00 - [78] Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 29/11/2004 13:50:58 Originally by: Jris erintaki Originally by: Loka Sorry but this is a game and i want to play and not to build up a whole empire, with supply, logistic and others as a full day job. You know some of us have already a job 8-10h a day. ok. just do NOT create an alliance. you know, none obliges you to. you can go on as you were before shiva. People in empire can't enter your space or you kill them. they got a job 8-10k a day as well. Alliance= creating a Nation, recognized by the game. Yes it is time consuming. as it is running a POS or making money if you are out of 0.0. Since you are the same guys saying that people who play in empire are carebears, i would have expected by you some coherence at least. and what would be the reason then? leads into useless PoS again.... look at PoS thread.... btw... u think all ppl in the 0.0 alliances play the game 4h per day at least? LoL! ------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp

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