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The holyghost	Posted - 2010.02.23 21:09:00 - [1] I remember the first one and we could all relax in 0.0 without having to fork out 20 mill per pod. Am i on my own here?
Reptzo Channel 4 News Team Forbidden Domain	Posted - 2010.02.23 21:23:00 - [2] I would say clone prices are fine. The more you have to risk, the more you have to lose. And thus it should remain, the first drop was plenty.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Reptzo I would say clone prices are fine. The more you have to risk, the more you have to lose. And thus it should remain, the first drop was plenty. Have to admit I hope the clone prices will be reduced. With 77 million Skillpoints the fee to pay for a clone is getting pretty hefty.. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Ephemeron Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:16:00 - [4] I wouldn't be surpised if CCP went with the carebears on this one, sooner or later They been pussifying this game for last 3 years at least, making it easier for the casual gamer, more softcore
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:27:00 - [5] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 23/02/2010 22:27:49 No you aren't on your own with this. I would prefer lower cost simply because performance is already tied to the equipment you use, with a hardcap on how much your skills can influence your performance. This means that there isn't a strong gameplay reason to keep the higher prices and I think that the players SP count shouldn't be a reason to prevent him enjoying the same low cost PvP, that is currently only an option on low/medium SP levels. I'm sure the situation won't change until a large part of the playerbase has to pay those prices on a regular basis though. It isn't a gamebreaking issue, most players wouldn't significantly benefit from it currently and it is an ISK sink. The slight advantage the SP count gives, that is usually scoffed at when a new player dares to mention it, is used here as a reason to keep the ever increasing clone costs as they are. Things are unlikely to change until there are enough people constantly whining about it, so it becomes a priority issue.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Ephemeron I wouldn't be surpised if CCP went with the carebears on this one, sooner or later They been pussifying this game for last 3 years at least, making it easier for the casual gamer, more softcore Actually its still just as hard as when it launched. Although the game is now more organized and thought through than before. So the game have not been dumbed down. They have just made the tutorial easier for new players. That way they can get into the game much faster. But that is still a long shot away from calling it dumbed down when the game is still as harsh as before. When it comes to cloning cost.. Some day the price will be 50 million to 100 million for a clone cost. You will have to grind a lot, even in deep space to earn that kind of money. So yes, in time they will have to reduce the pricetag seeing I cant afford to buy a clone for 50 to 100 million ISK.. Today I pay around 20 million or so I think. That is more than enough. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Reptzo Channel 4 News Team Forbidden Domain	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:50:00 - [7] As a caveat to my earlier statement, I think the prices are fine. But when thinking years from now, when people have 200/300/400 million sp, the clones will need their sp range adjusted. I think the prices are fine, they will simply need to increase the amount of sp each clone retains proportionally. Otherwise logically, it would eventually cost you 100s of million isk per clone, if you have been playing eve from the beginning.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:54:00 - [8] I sure hope so. Clone costs are trivial until you hit about 4 years played and shell out well over 10m per clone. I'm not sure what that guy is talking about the more you risk as you don't risk your skillpoints, it is simply a tax. If you are risking something then you wouldn't mind everyone risking isk and not just the very high sp players? Clone costs simply needs to be changed from exponential costs to something more linear. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Aqriue	Posted - 2010.02.23 22:58:00 - [9] Originally by: Ephemeron I wouldn't be surpised if CCP went with the carebears on this one, sooner or later They been pussifying this game for last 3 years at least, making it easier for the casual gamer, more softcore Carebears don't loose clones on a constant basis, they just upgrade every few months just to be safe and almost never loose the clone. The ones kvetchen aloud are like yourself, hardcore PVP players that loose clones on a constant basis with the hazards of low sec and null sec. So, you too Mr. Hardcore Toughguy could be spending half a billion in clone costs during a bad week keeping it updated because retraining level 5 rank 5+ skills over again sucks regardless how much you want to pretend its the fun and challenge of EVE.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.23 23:42:00 - [10] If they do anything at all I would bet that the next thing they do is to put a max cap on the clone cost. Meaning that all pilots above a set SP level will only have to pay whatever the top amount is set at. Slade snip Let's not go there. Shadow. ≡v≡

Ak'athra J'ador Amarr Handsome Millionaire Playboys	Posted - 2010.02.23 23:43:00 - [11] yeah, lets hope they bring the prices down a bit. wanted to do some cheap pvp in frigs in my corp, but at 20 mil a pod, its not really cheap. its only a problem in 0.0, cause with no bubbles you can normally save the pod, still it would be nice if they brought the prices down...
Typhado3 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.02.24 02:36:00 - [12] Edited by: Typhado3 on 24/02/2010 02:39:37 Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador yeah, lets hope they bring the prices down a bit. wanted to do some cheap pvp in frigs in my corp, but at 20 mil a pod, its not really cheap. its only a problem in 0.0, cause with no bubbles you can normally save the pod, still it would be nice if they brought the prices down... this. Sure takes the fun out of t1 ops or trying to fly frigates... though faction frigates can work without costing about same as your clone. ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Gith Industries	Posted - 2010.02.24 03:27:00 - [13] I think they need to raise the lower-end clone prices, and drop the highend clone prices a bit, but not too much. Also, try making an alt >.>
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.02.24 04:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Ephemeron I wouldn't be surpised if CCP went with the carebears on this one, sooner or later Yeah, cause "carebears" get podded a lot.
HIghlord Diamond	Posted - 2010.02.24 08:28:00 - [15] Okay, this is from someone who just visited the 'How much is rich' thread, but it seems to me that a 4 year old char who needs to shell out 10M-20m a pop should be able to regain that amount in a matter of minutes. But I can understand why this can be annoying.

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Kapse Locke Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.24 11:52:00 - [17] I wouldn't complain if the prices dropped, but at the same time I think that if you're starting to feel the pinch on your wallet when you get podded, then you're getting podded too much.
Salpad Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2010.02.24 16:04:00 - [18] What about triple the current clone price, but as a one-time cost, and once you've paid this cost you own that grade of clone forever. Replacement clones could then cost less than the current ISK price for the same amount of SPs. Like 1/3 as much or even 1/10 as much. How would that work? -- Salpad C.E.O., Carebears with Attitude
Drykor Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.02.24 23:51:00 - [19] I too would love a drop in this price. There's just no cheap fun in t1 cruisers or even frigates anymore when your clone costs way more than your ship. In low sec it's less of an issue but you can still lag out.
Ravenal The Fated E.Y	Posted - 2010.02.25 00:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Salpad What about triple the current clone price, but as a one-time cost, and once you've paid this cost you own that grade of clone forever. Replacement clones could then cost less than the current ISK price for the same amount of SPs. Like 1/3 as much or even 1/10 as much. How would that work? Seems strange to have an isk sink on preventing the loss of the only thing you are buying with a subscription (training of skills). seriously, I paid to train skills, luckily enough I get to play the game too as an added bonus. Skill loss is silly, what a good clone should be is means to overcome the trauma of the transfer of consciousness ... which would result in side effects like drug side effects that last for a while, depending on how good your clone is. .

Carniflex StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.02.27 11:03:00 - [21] Clone price is fine. Don't fly ships that cost less than your clone or if you fly frigates then make an alt in spare slot. You can max frigate skills in few months just fine and have dirt cheap clone. The new anomalies are outright fountain of isk so while I will feel my pod losses they are relatively minor irritation if you can do 90 m/h in liquid isk grinding L5 anoms. I will not cry ofc when higher end clones would get cheaper, but it's not a problem if they do not.
Clementina Eye of God Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:36:00 - [22] They actually did reduce the clone prices some time ago when a few people had more skillpoints than the maximum clone could hold. They increased the skillpoints holdable by each clone (And reorganized the top clones if I recall); Effectively reducing the price. So, wait until someone has 450,000,000 skillpoints. Then you'll see a price reduction.
Dr Looaf	Posted - 2010.02.28 03:13:00 - [23] Edited by: Dr Looaf on 28/02/2010 03:13:23
Yarinor Yarinors Trust Fund	Posted - 2010.02.28 17:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Clementina They actually did reduce the clone prices some time ago when a few people had more skillpoints than the maximum clone could hold. They increased the skillpoints holdable by each clone (And reorganized the top clones if I recall); Effectively reducing the price. So, wait until someone has 450,000,000 skillpoints. Then you'll see a price reduction. So in other words Soonᵗᵐ
Deva Blackfire LOST IDEA C0VEN	Posted - 2010.02.28 21:20:00 - [25] Originally by: Carniflex Clone price is fine. Don't fly ships that cost less than your clone or if you fly frigates then make an alt in spare slot. You can max frigate skills in few months just fine and have dirt cheap clone. ****. guess im stuck with t3 cruisers, t2 battleships and capitals then.
Drykor Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.02.28 23:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Carniflex Clone price is fine. Don't fly ships that cost less than your clone or if you fly frigates then make an alt in spare slot. You can max frigate skills in few months just fine and have dirt cheap clone. People keep spouting this nonsense. I bet you can't find a single pvp ship that has less than 20M sp applying to it, save maybe no-propulsion single weapon system no-tank ships. Even if you could, some people actually like flying with their mains instead of some random alt.
Carniflex StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.01 08:05:00 - [27] Originally by: Drykor Originally by: Carniflex Clone price is fine. Don't fly ships that cost less than your clone or if you fly frigates then make an alt in spare slot. You can max frigate skills in few months just fine and have dirt cheap clone. People keep spouting this nonsense. I bet you can't find a single pvp ship that has less than 20M sp applying to it, save maybe no-propulsion single weapon system no-tank ships. Even if you could, some people actually like flying with their mains instead of some random alt. My alts are not random, they are specialized. Only jack - of - all - trades is my main, this character. I will move in month or two into 30 mil clones that will be good for up to approx 112 mil SP. Properly fitted interceptor or AF cost 30+ mil easily. And nothing stops me flying T1 frigate if I so desire, clones will cost a bit but meh, at that amount of SP you can easily do 30 mil isk. Implants you plug into your head are not part of your 'clone cost' btw. You can blow billion on them as easily in medical clone that is worth 500 000 isk as you can in one that is 30 mil. If you can't afford them then yes - you should not fly ships that blow up on regular basis in locations where you get propably podded if your ship pops.
SeismicForce Terra Incognita Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.01 16:12:00 - [28] I hope they do drop the prices. Lots of high SP players enjoy fighting in smaller ships, and enjoy the fun of close range combat. An interceptor pilot will probably get podded more than a battleship pilot, and you see lots of vets in interceptors. Losing a ship isn't that serious, but getting podded 3 or 4 times in a short time hits the wallet when your clone costs 20 million a pop. I would just simplify the whole clone cost thing : 1 million isk per 10 million skill points. Doesn't hurt younger players too much, and older players don't have to worry that much about being podded. Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
Ravenal The Fated E.Y	Posted - 2010.03.01 16:41:00 - [29] Originally by: SeismicForce I hope they do drop the prices. Lots of high SP players enjoy fighting in smaller ships, and enjoy the fun of close range combat. An interceptor pilot will probably get podded more than a battleship pilot, and you see lots of vets in interceptors. Losing a ship isn't that serious, but getting podded 3 or 4 times in a short time hits the wallet when your clone costs 20 million a pop. I would just simplify the whole clone cost thing : 1 million isk per 10 million skill points. Doesn't hurt younger players too much, and older players don't have to worry that much about being podded. +1 for this ... even less isk per skill points. Less incentive to having lots of isk please. .
Clueless Alt	Posted - 2010.03.01 17:45:00 - [30] I hope too. I hate playing a dictor when the clone is sooo pricey. :<



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