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Funky Lazers Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.06.30 11:43:00 - [1] - Quote Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to *Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful?
TheBreadMuncher Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance 141	Posted - 2012.06.30 11:45:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah probably "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 653	Posted - 2012.06.30 11:51:00 - [3] - Quote I haven't looked at this module but from what I'm reading about it's behavior on the forums, I'd say Gal, prolly not going to use it as much as min because of the differences in the cap requirements of the two races. Min guns = no cap, gal guns = lots of cap. Compounded with split resistances since you're usually getting hit by more than one damage type and well.....why add more of a cap burden? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Janus Varg Smoke Jaguars 6	Posted - 2012.06.30 12:07:00 - [4] - Quote I've used one on an arbitrator going through 3/10 and 4/10 complexes... wouldn't say it's ideal but it saved me bothering to swap for different areas.
Reicine Ceer Rodents of Unusual Size The Rat Race 28	Posted - 2012.06.30 13:34:00 - [5] - Quote Funky Lazers wrote: Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful? "- With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then* a BC" Then Vs Than - funnily enough, NOT THE SAME WORD. Please. For the love of whatever deities you believe in, start using the language correctly. I actually stopped reading after this failure of a sentence; what you basically said was (in other words for purposes of clarification) - "With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so i see no reason to fit it on something smaller after a BC" Did that make the slightest bit of sense? No. Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong.
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 446	Posted - 2012.06.30 13:35:00 - [6] - Quote I've used one for the occasional ratting excursion, its actually a pretty effective module once you've gotten its resists balanced out properly. I used ti on an Armaggedon. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á
Cebraio Starfire Oasis 96	Posted - 2012.06.30 13:58:00 - [7] - Quote It's probably better to stick to EANMs unless you fit so many of them that the stacking penalty may make it worth to put a reactive hardener instead of another EANM. @Reicine Ceer, grammar ****. It's a simple mistake that can happen to the best of us. No reason to write a book about it.
Funky Lazers Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:09:00 - [8] - Quote As it goes for PvE I just checked out resists on a deadspace C-Type EANM. It gives ~31% to every resist. Guess it's useless in PvE since it gives lower resists and you can also use hardeners of the specific damage type. I wonder if someone used it PvP.
DonHel The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort Get Off My Lawn 38	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:15:00 - [9] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Funky Lazers wrote: Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful? "- With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then* a BC" Then Vs Than - funnily enough, NOT THE SAME WORD. Please. For the love of whatever deities you believe in, start using the language correctly. I actually stopped reading after this failure of a sentence; what you basically said was (in other words for purposes of clarification) - "With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so i see no reason to fit it on something smaller after a BC" Did that make the slightest bit of sense? No. Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong. U B MAD BRAH?
Varesk Mafia Redux Black Legion. 100	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:40:00 - [10] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Amerrukans Its spelled Americans.

MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 452	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:42:00 - [11] - Quote the mod is epic on an archon... PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
Solstice Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 1600	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:45:00 - [12] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Funky Lazers wrote: Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful? "- With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then* a BC" Then Vs Than - funnily enough, NOT THE SAME WORD. Please. For the love of whatever deities you believe in, start using the language correctly. I actually stopped reading after this failure of a sentence; what you basically said was (in other words for purposes of clarification) - "With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so i see no reason to fit it on something smaller after a BC" Did that make the slightest bit of sense? No. Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong. <3 <3 <3 I hate it so much when people do the then/than mistake ... <3 <3 <3 Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
Shad0wsFury Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 74	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:53:00 - [13] - Quote stacking penalties.
Betrinna Cantis 19	Posted - 2012.06.30 14:56:00 - [14] - Quote Varesk wrote: Reicine Ceer wrote: Amerrukans Its spelled Americans. And it is MORE,not MOAR!!! Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
CrazySpaceHobo Haddock's Legitimate Trading 0	Posted - 2012.06.30 15:00:00 - [15] - Quote Don't forget, it IS a t1 module and should be compared as such. CCP said that once they've determined if the new modules are balanced, we'll see Meta and T2 versions, which I can only assume will be competitive with t2 EANM's.
Funky Lazers Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.06.30 15:03:00 - [16] - Quote CrazySpaceHobo wrote: Don't forget, it IS a t1 module and should be compared as such. CCP said that once they've determined if the new modules are balanced, we'll see Meta and T2 versions, which I can only assume will be competitive with t2 EANM's. Thet sounds very promising!
Karsa Egivand Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2012.06.30 15:35:00 - [17] - Quote It is way better than an EANM or even the c/b-type versions because it's not subject to the same stacking penalties!! So once you got two ordinary passive armor-hardeners, a reactive hardener module is way more effective. Yes, the cap-issue has to be considered, but on larger ships with plenty low-slots ... its pretty good if you want awesome resists.
Funky Lazers Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.06.30 20:14:00 - [18] - Quote Actually it's a bit strange. I just tested resists on my Cane. My friend was shooting at me with Barrage, after a min and a half my Exp resist was 51% with 1 EANM II and 1 RAH. With 2 EANM II my Exp resist is 47%. So is it worth having it? The 4% resist difference to me is not a big deal because this mod has to build up and also uses cap. I hope t2 version is coming out soon.
Mallak Azaria 206	Posted - 2012.06.30 20:23:00 - [19] - Quote Funky Lazers wrote: As it goes for PvE I just checked out resists on a deadspace C-Type EANM. It gives ~31% to every resist. Guess it's useless in PvE since it gives lower resists and you can also use hardeners of the specific damage type. I wonder if someone used it PvP. There's a corp I've been fighting lately that use these religiously on their armour battleships. It seems to be a great mod, but as the name implies it doesn't react very well. Shoot armour with EM damage & it switches to a 60% EM armour mod... Then switch to Hail & laugh
Victor Lance Stark Interplanetary Expeditions 1	Posted - 2012.07.01 14:14:00 - [20] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong. Would you just look at this detractive twit... First, you contributed nothing to the discussion at hand. Second, you assumed the person who made the comment is an American without any real evidence of that being a fact. And finally, you bash both the poster and Americans for using less than perfect grammar with an example that is an even more atrocious display of poor writing skills. You, Sir or Ma'am, are a charlatan. "I" as a personal pronoun, including "I've" is always capitalized; even when used mid-sentence. The hyphen is not an all purpose replacement for both periods, semicolons and commas. Abbreviations are supposed to be followed by a period; though I will admit that the usage is becoming some what pass+¬. The "/" is not a replacement for the word or. Sentence fragments are just that; try joining them to another statement. Lastly, this just speaks for itself: "There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this..." should be, "There are a lot of Americans who do this..." Now STUFU shortbus, I came here to get information and opinions on the armor module.

MotherMoon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 908	Posted - 2012.07.01 16:19:00 - [21] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Funky Lazers wrote: Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful? "- With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then* a BC" Then Vs Than - funnily enough, NOT THE SAME WORD. Please. For the love of whatever deities you believe in, start using the language correctly. I actually stopped reading after this failure of a sentence; what you basically said was (in other words for purposes of clarification) - "With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so i see no reason to fit it on something smaller after a BC" Did that make the slightest bit of sense? No. Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong. no 1 carez gramma naz1 Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Funky Lazers Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.07.01 18:27:00 - [22] - Quote Aww c'mon people, don't feed the troll. It's obvious I'm not from US or UK and english is not my native language. If someone like that grammar n-¦zi fails at real life and also at trolling just leave him/her alone. More importantly I want to discuss that mod.
Merovee Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor 20	Posted - 2012.07.01 18:35:00 - [23] - Quote Funky Lazers wrote: Aww c'mon people, don't feed the troll. It's obvious I'm not from US or UK and english is not my native language. If someone like that grammar n-¦zi fails at real life and also at trolling just leave him/her alone. More importantly I want to discuss that mod. Then you should learn from it, Right?
Syyl'ara Intaki Prosperity Initiative 4	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:32:00 - [24] - Quote Varesk wrote: Reicine Ceer wrote: Amerrukans Its spelled Americans. http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/its.html "It is spelled Americans." So you should be using "It's" rather than "Its" as you did. Syyl'ara Infrastructure Security Coordinator Ishukone Prosperity Exchange "Cooperation is the greater path than conflict"
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 780	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:01:00 - [25] - Quote Funky Lazers wrote: Aww c'mon people, don't feed the troll. It's obvious I'm not from US or UK and english is not my native language. If someone like that grammar n-¦zi fails at real life and also at trolling just leave him/her alone. More importantly I want to discuss that mod. Resist mods stack, which is why more of one type isn't always better. BUT Damage controls, and the Reactive Hardener do NOT stack, so they're resist bonus is directly applied. Yes its useful, but only on BS and above as anything smaller eats entirely too much cap
Victor Lance Stark Interplanetary Expeditions 3	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:21:00 - [26] - Quote Funky Lazers wrote: Aww c'mon people, don't feed the troll. It's obvious I'm not from US or UK and english is not my native language. If someone like that grammar n-¦zi fails at real life and also at trolling just leave him/her alone. More importantly I want to discuss that mod. Agreed... I found this thread looking for information about the module. However, I would be remiss in my social responsibility if I did not point out that this hypocrite's attempt at grammar trolling was fraught with grammatical imprecision far worse than your own. A wise man once said, "Do not point out the splinter in the eye of another without first removing the two-by-four from your own." (para.)
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 702	Posted - 2012.07.02 00:44:00 - [27] - Quote I feel like you'd be better off with an armor hardener that just took scripts instead of this terrible module.
Tarryn Nightstorm Hellstar Towing and Recovery 457	Posted - 2012.07.02 01:01:00 - [28] - Quote Varesk wrote: Reicine Ceer wrote: Amerrukans Its spelled Americans. "It's," not "its." (Cool, I can play, too!) In irae, veritas.
Reaver Glitterstim Dromedaworks inc 163	Posted - 2012.07.02 01:04:00 - [29] - Quote Reicine Ceer wrote: Funky Lazers wrote: Hey there. Today I tested Reactive Armor Hardener and came to this: - With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then a BC - Resistance bonus is really small: usually you get damaged by 2 types of damage which means your hardener sets 2 resists to ~30%. Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II gives almost the same resist bonus with no build time and cap drain. As for resists when you compare it to Nano Membrane II there is usually 2-3% difference when 2 resists are set to 30%. So is this mod useful? "- With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so I see no reason to fit it on something smaller then* a BC" Then Vs Than - funnily enough, NOT THE SAME WORD. Please. For the love of whatever deities you believe in, start using the language correctly. I actually stopped reading after this failure of a sentence; what you basically said was (in other words for purposes of clarification) - "With the new skill it keeps draining cap very fast so i see no reason to fit it on something smaller after a BC" Did that make the slightest bit of sense? No. Should you feel bad? Yes. There are a lot of Amerrukans that do this, and i've noticed it far more in recent times - it doesn't matter whether you think "Derp, its the same thing/i can say what i want/you knew what i meant/I AM AMERRUKAN! I SAY WHAT I WANT OR I BOMB YOUR HOME, TERRORIST!!!1/etc - it is still completely wrong. Nobody likes a grammar ****. I can speak my English impeccably as well, but I don't brag about it nor frown upon those who fail to use the language as well as I do. It's a language fraught with inconsistencies and rules that make little sense. Bragging about having perfect English speaking skill is akin to bragging about flying a hull-tanked tech I logistics cruiser better than your older corpmates. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens
Edey 5	Posted - 2012.07.02 08:31:00 - [30] - Quote So is it true this mod will be getting t2 version or what?



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