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Alsyth
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:56:00 -
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Matuk Grymwal wrote:I've been musing over using the RAH for caps in WH fights. The thing that kills it for me is the resist adjustment behaviour is pretty sucky. Even in moderate sized engagements you'll easily be getting all four damage types, so you'll be stuck with the stock 15/15/15/15 split. Even with the lack of stacking you're still better with an EANM. This all stems from the adjustment ignoring how much damage you're taking of a specific type, so if you take huge amounts of kin/therm from a Moros, but a small amount of exp damage from lokis, the RAH balances against therm/Kim/exp evenly. Now if the adjustment took into account the proportion of damage of each type then it would be good. So in the Moros case you get a mostly kin/therm profile with a tiny amount of exp.
The other annoyance is the RAH getting stuck on a resist profile. This is less of an issue as you can cycle the mod to reset it, but I would prefer that it continued to adjust.
I'm pretty sure RAH adapt differently deping on how much damage you take.
I did several tests and while I did not manage to understand exactly how RAH works, I got these results:
Absolution (scorch) + warriors II hitting my loki: switch to 42-3-0-15 resistance.
But Absolution with scorch only: switch to 30-30-0-0
This module is still a mystery for me. |
JD No7
Malevolent Intentions
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:23:00 -
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Our tests showed it works in tandem with your current resists - ie you take laser damage and your resists are 60 80, it'll balance them to 85 85 or whatever. |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:27:00 -
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Alsyth wrote:Matuk Grymwal wrote:I've been musing over using the RAH for caps in WH fights. The thing that kills it for me is the resist adjustment behaviour is pretty sucky. Even in moderate sized engagements you'll easily be getting all four damage types, so you'll be stuck with the stock 15/15/15/15 split. Even with the lack of stacking you're still better with an EANM. This all stems from the adjustment ignoring how much damage you're taking of a specific type, so if you take huge amounts of kin/therm from a Moros, but a small amount of exp damage from lokis, the RAH balances against therm/Kim/exp evenly. Now if the adjustment took into account the proportion of damage of each type then it would be good. So in the Moros case you get a mostly kin/therm profile with a tiny amount of exp.
The other annoyance is the RAH getting stuck on a resist profile. This is less of an issue as you can cycle the mod to reset it, but I would prefer that it continued to adjust. I'm pretty sure RAH adapt differently deping on how much damage you take. I did several tests and while I did not manage to understand exactly how RAH works, I got these results: Absolution (scorch) + warriors II hitting my loki: switch to 42-3-0-15 resistance. But Absolution with scorch only: switch to 30-30-0-0 This module is still a mystery for me.
Yep, there is some degree of taking incoming damage type intensity into account, but it's still a bit mysterious.
I like the module, if only its cap use was sensible... |
Alsyth
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Posted - 2013.03.20 03:17:00 -
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JD No7 wrote:Our tests showed it works in tandem with your current resists - ie you take laser damage and your resists are 60 80, it'll balance them to 85 85 or whatever.
Not the case with my test:
I was in a Loki, so base resists were 97-88-86-85 before switch, and against an Absolution shooting scorch+warriors (so a damage imput of roughly 500-100-0-100) the RAH switched to 40-10-0-10 (+/-5 on each).
After the RAH stabilized, the resists were 98-88-84-84. Definitely not aiming towards even resistances, or it would have switched to something like 0-30-0-30. |
Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis
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Posted - 2013.03.20 04:38:00 -
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Alsyth wrote:JD No7 wrote:Our tests showed it works in tandem with your current resists - ie you take laser damage and your resists are 60 80, it'll balance them to 85 85 or whatever. Not the case with my test: I was in a Loki, so base resists were 97-88-86-85 before switch, and against an Absolution shooting scorch+warriors (so a damage imput of roughly 500-100-0-100) the RAH switched to 40-10-0-10 (+/-5 on each). After the RAH stabilized, the resists were 98-88-84-84. Definitely not aiming towards even resistances, or it would have switched to something like 0-30-0-30.
And yet in my latest round of testing when I sit at 0 m/s and let a Sleepless Preserver (check that damage profile, almost 100% Kin/Exp) hit me at his preferred orbit range for his full damage, my RAH shifted resistances like this:
EM: 0% Therm: 0% Kin: 43% Exp: 17%.
It favored Kinetic. Because my legion has a naturally high exp resist. It ignored EM/Therm completely, even though it had no problems just shooting his guns at me (for piddly damage). The resulting resistance on my legion looked like this:
65 - 78 - 84 - 86
What confuses me is the fact the RAH never even threw token resist into EM/Therm, even though there were cycles where EM/Therm was the only damage type the RAH saw (in between 18 second volleys of missles). Further, its odd that the RAH didn't bring both Kin and Exp to 85.
This is an odd module. |
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