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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.27 15:53:00 -
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So whats up with the new Misille physics?? They no longer follow Targets they will try and cut of your path.. Wich is death to small ships.
Misille boats where tough to break with small fast ships before exodus, now their even crazier
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.27 15:53:00 -
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So whats up with the new Misille physics?? They no longer follow Targets they will try and cut of your path.. Wich is death to small ships.
Misille boats where tough to break with small fast ships before exodus, now their even crazier
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What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:01:00 -
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ok Im not anticipating any of the whining raven pilots will cry NERF! at that change? 
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:01:00 -
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ok Im not anticipating any of the whining raven pilots will cry NERF! at that change?
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:16:00 -
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And i kept bloody wondering why i was smashed SO quickly yesterday,
!@#$#%^&
WTF is with cruise missiles? why the change?
why not announced?..
if it is unintended, please fix?
hell, i thought it was some weird lag yesterday.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:16:00 -
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And i kept bloody wondering why i was smashed SO quickly yesterday,
!@#$#%^&
WTF is with cruise missiles? why the change?
why not announced?..
if it is unintended, please fix?
hell, i thought it was some weird lag yesterday.
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Carniel
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:19:00 -
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It's like that with all missiles, not just cruise. Pirating cruisers in frigs just got a lot harder.
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Carniel
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:19:00 -
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It's like that with all missiles, not just cruise. Pirating cruisers in frigs just got a lot harder.
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ThorsHmr
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:27:00 -
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Actually, for anyone who knows even a small percent of how a missile actually tracks it's target, this is one of the best "fixes/changes/upgrades" that could have come along concerning missile-play.
Missiles do not "follow" a target, they "track" and try to determine, and fly to, an intersecting point in space to acheive its' goal....to hit the target.
So, for anybody not used the the proper way missiles should act.....sorry for the rude awakening 
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ThorsHmr
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:27:00 -
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Actually, for anyone who knows even a small percent of how a missile actually tracks it's target, this is one of the best "fixes/changes/upgrades" that could have come along concerning missile-play.
Missiles do not "follow" a target, they "track" and try to determine, and fly to, an intersecting point in space to acheive its' goal....to hit the target.
So, for anybody not used the the proper way missiles should act.....sorry for the rude awakening
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Holi
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:29:00 -
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Yepp, missile's were changed from chase-mode to intercept-mode it seems.
That, and the fact that defenders still bring you to a complete stop just hurts 
(Submitted bugreport on defenders just to make sure, altough that bug has been around a looooong time.)
I can't understand why they changed missile behaviour when they didn't even fix defenders.
And let's not talk about the lack of non-missile slot, non-energy using missile defense systems. I'm at the point that I would even accept a Micro Chaff Bomb that works as a SB with about twice the range but uses small projectile (or whatever) ammo instead of you cap
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Holi
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:29:00 -
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Yepp, missile's were changed from chase-mode to intercept-mode it seems.
That, and the fact that defenders still bring you to a complete stop just hurts
(Submitted bugreport on defenders just to make sure, altough that bug has been around a looooong time.)
I can't understand why they changed missile behaviour when they didn't even fix defenders.
And let's not talk about the lack of non-missile slot, non-energy using missile defense systems. I'm at the point that I would even accept a Micro Chaff Bomb that works as a SB with about twice the range but uses small projectile (or whatever) ammo instead of you cap
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agrizla
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 27/11/2004 16:38:29
It's sort of the way missiles should always have realistically worked to be honest. Of course if we're going to get realistic about this then it ought to be possible to jam and/or seduce missiles away from their target - ECM burst modules spring to mind as possibles for jamming (but they'd need tweaking). I agree it does suck for frigate pilots right now but then again missiles are WAY overpowered at the moment. I'm sure TomB will be along to nerf everything in sight into oblivion soon anyway
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agrizla
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 27/11/2004 16:38:29
It's sort of the way missiles should always have realistically worked to be honest. Of course if we're going to get realistic about this then it ought to be possible to jam and/or seduce missiles away from their target - ECM burst modules spring to mind as possibles for jamming (but they'd need tweaking). I agree it does suck for frigate pilots right now but then again missiles are WAY overpowered at the moment. I'm sure TomB will be along to nerf everything in sight into oblivion soon anyway
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:35:00 -
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as a raven pilot i think this sucks. the way it was befor was a tad bit over powered but now you can kill frigs easly with a cruise i can under stand setting up rockets for such a task only becouse thay can only go so far. but a mwding frigs at 20 is just going to get stomped :\ this just means that a raven will not have to be setup for frig defence and wich will only make them more powerfull... if thay are going to do this thay need to make rockets intercept frigs not cruise. only becouse a cruise will kill a frig in one hit a rocket will not.. or leave it like it was where a raven would have to use large amounts of cpu and power grid to fit a nossi to defend agenst frigs:\
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:35:00 -
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as a raven pilot i think this sucks. the way it was befor was a tad bit over powered but now you can kill frigs easly with a cruise i can under stand setting up rockets for such a task only becouse thay can only go so far. but a mwding frigs at 20 is just going to get stomped :\ this just means that a raven will not have to be setup for frig defence and wich will only make them more powerfull... if thay are going to do this thay need to make rockets intercept frigs not cruise. only becouse a cruise will kill a frig in one hit a rocket will not.. or leave it like it was where a raven would have to use large amounts of cpu and power grid to fit a nossi to defend agenst frigs:\
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:41:00 -
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Yes correct "proper" missiles track and intercep**** target... not the way they do in movies and follow around for a couple of minutes... =)
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:41:00 -
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Yes correct "proper" missiles track and intercep**** target... not the way they do in movies and follow around for a couple of minutes... =)
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:46:00 -
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 Originally by: ThorsHmr
Actually, for anyone who knows even a small percent of how a missile actually tracks it's target, this is one of the best "fixes/changes/upgrades" that could have come along concerning missile-play.
Missiles do not "follow" a target, they "track" and try to determine, and fly to, an intersecting point in space to acheive its' goal....to hit the target.
So, for anybody not used the the proper way missiles should act.....sorry for the rude awakening
I agree that this change is welcome HOWEVER deploying it without the other changes to misilles(dmg versus sig radius) and doing it inn stealth mode is bad.
One cant fix half of the problem and leave the rest, it creates some very unbalanced sjit.
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What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: ThorsHmr
Actually, for anyone who knows even a small percent of how a missile actually tracks it's target, this is one of the best "fixes/changes/upgrades" that could have come along concerning missile-play.
Missiles do not "follow" a target, they "track" and try to determine, and fly to, an intersecting point in space to acheive its' goal....to hit the target.
So, for anybody not used the the proper way missiles should act.....sorry for the rude awakening
I agree that this change is welcome HOWEVER deploying it without the other changes to misilles(dmg versus sig radius) and doing it inn stealth mode is bad.
One cant fix half of the problem and leave the rest, it creates some very unbalanced sjit.
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What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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agrizla
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:48:00 -
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Why change TomB's habits - it's the way he always does it isn't it? 
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agrizla
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:48:00 -
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Why change TomB's habits - it's the way he always does it isn't it?
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:50:00 -
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ffs, Whoever introduced this change, fly a frigate one a year, please.
this game gets worse by the second.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:50:00 -
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ffs, Whoever introduced this change, fly a frigate one a year, please.
this game gets worse by the second.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:56:00 -
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Tracking change...
Production change....
*grabs crystal ball*
I see.....a NERF coming! 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.27 16:56:00 -
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Tracking change...
Production change....
*grabs crystal ball*
I see.....a NERF coming!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: kurg
ok Im not anticipating any of the whining raven pilots will cry NERF! at that change?
im only complaining about raven tanking
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: kurg
ok Im not anticipating any of the whining raven pilots will cry NERF! at that change?
im only complaining about raven tanking
Wanna fly with me?
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:16:00 -
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no wait missiles got cost reduced... one batch = 100 missiles now instead of 10
and on top of that my missiles will hit targets more easily  .
Sucks to be non caldari eh  .
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Grim Vandal
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Posted - 2004.11.27 17:16:00 -
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no wait missiles got cost reduced... one batch = 100 missiles now instead of 10
and on top of that my missiles will hit targets more easily .
Sucks to be non caldari eh .
Greetings Grim |
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