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Abulurd Boniface Gallente Gangrel Mining and Security	Posted - 2010.03.05 22:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 05/03/2010 22:25:20 Friends, That joyful time is, yet again, upon us. As we speak, our friends the PvP whiz kids [and the rather well-aged] are carting rich prizes, great bonuses and an abundance of ISK around the New Eden universe. It's like Christmas on steroids! What is all this wonderful "lewtz' gathered for? Why, it's Hulkageddon III, of course. Ye veritable PvP nropography. The elite pew pew crews, the experienced privateers and the enthusiastic neophytes just testing the waters with their new-found skills and especially fitted ships alike, are dragging a line in the sand [if such there was in the cold space betwixt the stars] and await the starter gun of this, the next installment of what can only be described as the most joyful season in New Eden's demesne. Yes, gentlemen, if you see privateers licking their chops, it is because they are horny for honor, impatient for ISK, petulant for the many prizes this new gankfest has to offer. And who could blame them? I, as a miner, can only invite you to join in the cheer and take a well-deserved vacation as you watch the hunter-killer crews zip past in their snippy ships. Gay is their demeanor, gleeful the cut of their jib, well-stocked their assortment of guns. Yea verily, they are a magnificent sight to behold! Jump into your own combat vessel, be it fail fitted or not. It's the thought that counts, we're not here to judge, merely to entice you to have a good time. Go to your favorite asteroid belt and see off of how many asteroids you can make your dainty space ship careen as you turn the great outdoors into your very own pinball machine. Seek out anomalies and meet the various pirate factions. Do missions and find out more about the intricate and complex brooding story lines our lords and masters in far Reykjavik have laid down for us to enjoy. Learn how to scan and find yourself a wormhole to explore. Meet the mighty Sleepers, and keep your wits about you. They are not to be trifled with. Bring home the various prizes and strange creatures that can be found in the depths of space. Become rich off all the exotics that wiskey space has to offer. Make New Eden your oyster as you venture out into your favorite asteroid belt or you could explore a new one, and pick the rats from between the rocks like a giant picking his teeth. Earn easy ISK [although zero space rats tend to have a bit more pluck] and great faction standing as you hone your atrophied gunnery skills to something that even the most hardened privateer with all the books might come to grudgingly respect. Go forth, my charmingly squeamish friends, and venture out into the spooky netherworld of low-sec space, where all the funny creatures live. You should feel safe: they'll be all over Empire, looking for you! Learn what they know, do what they do! Be the master of their domain. It is rumored that low-sec is populated by dainty damsels dazzling dastard drone fleets, luring the pirates with ISK into an early clone renewal. All these adventures can be yours, do anything you want, for finally you can rest your weary hands as you turn off the mining lasers, clear out the last jet can, dock the trusted workhorse, repair your drones [you should] and join the privateering party in what we should strive to be made into a regular miner's holiday. After all, you'll see the gank squads zooming by, looking for the plum prize, thinking of all the wonderful gifts they will receive at the end of their holiday. You should heartily cheer them on, encourage them to go ever harder, faster, higher, in search of fame, fortune and magnificent killboard stats. This should not just be a ganker's party, make it your party too! Get something nice to drink, avail yourself of tasty morsels, start a debate channel and discuss the topic on your mind. Learn more about the wonderful opportunities New Eden has to offer and, amid the clamor of the furious fighting fleets of the future, be glad it's not your boat that has to bear the brunt of Hulkageddon III. For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Fetish Nation	Posted - 2010.03.05 22:21:00 - [2] You stayed up all night writing that, didn't you? Originally by: Xen Gin Originally by: FOl2TY8 I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence. Yeah, I use that excuse too.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.03.05 22:24:00 - [3] ROFL, that's beautiful. golfclap Nicely done. Killboard-Declarations of War Podcast
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.05 23:07:00 - [4] dumb ----- http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Beaky Weirdo	Posted - 2010.03.05 23:22:00 - [5] Originally by: Abulurd Boniface Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 05/03/2010 22:25:20 Gay is their demeanor Believe me, I see what you did there.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.03.05 23:49:00 - [6] I am not reading that.
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.03.06 00:44:00 - [7] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that. New bounty system. Always, I want to be with you, and make believe with you, and live in harmony harmony oh love!
Omgah The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.06 02:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Miney Prospector Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2010.03.06 02:20:00 - [9] TLDR Gank Hulks yourself if you're trying to drive the price of them back up on the market. We're not your free militia. Trancehacker -- "HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN PLAYIN???"
Jeron kahyar Minmatar White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.03.06 02:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Alex Rendez INESTO Task Force	Posted - 2010.03.06 02:28:00 - [11] Hey, just remind me to stock up on Hulks before HG III. I plan to make 200 mil minimum when it takes place. =) Oh yeah, gankers...I'm coming for you. INESTO Counter-Terrorism Task Force Commander
Msgerbs Gallente Imperial Assualt Guild Raikiri Assasins	Posted - 2010.03.06 07:21:00 - [12] You know, it kind of loses its novelty at this point. ------ C&P wannabe Originally by: CCP Zymurgist doing what C&P is great for... Blowing them up! Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 14:24:00 - [13] Next up: I claim ownership of the next Big Lottery Pathetic ~ Soar Like a Penguin
Marcus Grim	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Abulurd Boniface Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 05/03/2010 22:25:20 Friends, That joyful time is, yet again, upon us. As we speak, our friends the PvP whiz kids...... My eyes glazed over right about there .... worth reading?
ANGRY23 the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.03.06 18:03:00 - [15] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2010.03.06 23:24:00 - [16] Yawn.... Yawn.... oh and Yawn again.... Whiskey For CAOD at its best
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.03.07 01:42:00 - [17] Originally by: Jeron kahyar Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Mara Tessidar	Posted - 2010.03.07 02:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Dian'h Might Originally by: Jeron kahyar Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Normin Bates	Posted - 2010.03.07 06:04:00 - [19] I stopped when I saw "joyful".
Kamden Line	Posted - 2010.03.07 09:01:00 - [20] Ohhh...mama. Ore pirces are gonna be on the fritz for weeks.
Dominic Jacara	Posted - 2010.03.10 00:41:00 - [21] Give us a break. I mean... seriously! Give us a break from your anti-social behaviour. Just because you claim it is within the game mechanics and CCP never seem bothered to respond to what plenty of other players see as harassment, doesn't mean you should do it. Inflicting yet another so called contest (which is no contest when you consider the dps that is ranged against miners in this childish 'my ship ****es higher up the wall than yours' brag-fest), and so soon after the other one is simply bullying other players. Pure and simple. We also pay to play and it's no good parroting that we should "chill out, it's only a game". Yes it is only a game, which we chose to play in a different way to you and should be equally allowed to do. So if you are hell bent on having a Hulkageddon at least give us a decent respite from your childish behaviour for another six months at least. You know what they say about familiarity breeding contempt. Propose a Hulkageddon too often and you could find your next posting raises a chorus of yawns from all sides, or even total silence and lack of interest as people find more meaningful thing to do in the game.
Doctor Cal'torien Gallente The Vikings of the Black Sea	Posted - 2010.03.10 00:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Dominic Jacara Give us a break. I mean... seriously! Give us a break from your anti-social behaviour. Just because you claim it is within the game mechanics and CCP never seem bothered to respond to what plenty of other players see as harassment, doesn't mean you should do it. Inflicting yet another so called contest (which is no contest when you consider the dps that is ranged against miners in this childish 'my ship **es higher up the wall than yours' brag-fest), and so soon after the other one is simply bullying other players. Pure and simple. We also pay to play and it's no good parroting that we should "chill out, it's only a game". Yes it is only a game, which we chose to play in a different way to you and should be equally allowed to do. So if you are hell bent on having a Hulkageddon at least give us a decent respite from your childish behaviour for another six months at least. You know what they say about familiarity breeding contempt. Propose a Hulkageddon too often and you could find your next posting raises a chorus of yawns from all sides, or even total silence and lack of interest as people find more meaningful thing to do in the game. even the haters didn't bother to read the OP... though honestly i don't blame em >_> -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Originally by:** CCP Shadow Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien in before the "OP lacks content + witty dialogue" from Shadow click You just did it for me.
Jeneroux Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:15:00 - [23] All you will do is send more miners into the market. Then you can buy your guns from them. Like you Americans say about taking off the nose to spite the face. something like that.. no one home to correct me.. but is stupid idea.
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.10 02:15:00 - [24] Has OP placed a bounty on their own head for impersonating a loved/hated member of C&P?
Nephene Armandi	Posted - 2010.03.10 03:05:00 - [25] wow, a lot of people missed the point of the OP. it's an address to miners to simply stop mining during hulkageddon so the gank squads wont have any targets. even more people chose to simply respond without reading it altogether.
Tejal Charu	Posted - 2010.03.10 08:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Nephene Armandi wow, a lot of people missed the point of the OP. it's an address to miners to simply stop mining during hulkageddon so the gank squads wont have any targets. even more people chose to simply respond without reading it altogether. This. It was a good read. Well written too.
ISellThingz	Posted - 2010.03.10 10:18:00 - [27] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Amy Platt	Posted - 2010.03.10 11:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Tejal Charu This. It was a good read. Well written too. well it was written better than a lot of posts in this forum.
Vorn McKay Corp	Posted - 2010.03.10 15:40:00 - [29] there an ingame channel? A date? length? or was that a tl;dr "kill stuff" story. That looks like a long read On a side note I was told my signature was too inappropriate, isn't this game rated T or something?
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.03.10 15:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Abulurd Boniface A bunch of stuff that won't fit in a quote window I love it. As of now, I am on vacation. Time to go hunt sleepers. --Vel Forum Mom: Spanking the snot out of little brats.
Vorn McKay Corp	Posted - 2010.03.10 15:53:00 - [31] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Abulurd Boniface A bunch of stuff that won't fit in a quote window I love it. As of now, I am on vacation. Time to go hunt sleepers. I hope you mean macro sleeping miners, right? I was told my signature was too inappropriate, isn't this game rated T or something?
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Vorn Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Abulurd Boniface A bunch of stuff that won't fit in a quote window I love it. As of now, I am on vacation. Time to go hunt sleepers. I hope you mean macro sleeping miners, right? Why would I ruin a perfectly good security status ganking macros when I can spend that time making serious ISK blowing up stuff that shoots back? --Vel Forum Mom: Spanking the snot out of little brats.
Militia ManOWar	Posted - 2010.05.29 20:19:00 - [33] When is this happening? I can bring Nightmare for DPS
Gistatis Tribunus The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.29 21:21:00 - [34] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
mharfach	Posted - 2010.05.29 23:29:00 - [35] You mis-spelled ****ography. Just an fyi.
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.05.29 23:36:00 - [36] Unless there is an official site set up and an announcement by the Hellfury I refuse to believe it. _______________________ "Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Greasy Hot'Pocket	Posted - 2010.05.30 02:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Militia ManOWar When is this happening? I can bring Nightmare for DPS Good job Necroing a 3 month dead thread.
Julienne Poirier	Posted - 2010.05.30 04:00:00 - [38] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that. wall of text
TheBaptist Vori V Zakoni	Posted - 2010.05.30 12:58:00 - [39] I support this product and/or service
Mo0seluffer	Posted - 2010.05.31 22:47:00 - [40] Originally by: TheBaptist I support this product and/or service How do you support it..Are you holding it up in your big massive arms? Or are you the one donating all the isk and rewards.Please let us know,Cause i would endorse such a supporter for said events. Oh and Pirate face...
Abulurd Boniface Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries	Posted - 2010.06.16 08:59:00 - [41] Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 16/06/2010 08:59:19 Bumping this post because of its renewed relevance. It's on [again] and people take it very serious indeed. A professional web page, you really want to take a look, that is bursting at the seams with enthusiasm and the hunger for carebear tears, plentiful bounty, honor and prizes through the hunt for spilled ore and the diverse paraphernalia that make for the successful mining life. Far be it for me to begrudge the ganking community a chance at rich prizes and countless hours of fun and glee [if only because the sneering derision would be thicker than molasses and I really don't need an invitation to WoW], I still don't feel that the Hulk pilot is necessarily required to oblige the people in the cheap ships pursuing their low-cost thrills at the expense of a very valuable mining platform. So, I raise this post from the dead where it rightly belonged, not because I'm in love with my own words, rather because I want to remind my fellow mining brethren that there are other pursuits in EVE that merit deeper exploration while your favorite gank squad is out looking for the plum prize. Don't let it be your head on the stake, don't let it be your clone that needs renewing, don't let it be your Hulk that needs replacing. For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease.
Savatar Mei	Posted - 2010.06.16 09:53:00 - [42] you know, its not all pirates that participate in hulkageddon. hulkageddon2 i lost some hulks that time around, and i will be out in my hulk this time around again....why? for fun... im bored... im also contributing to the prizes.. and as a sponsor i resent the bitterness of ur post, im appalled, no, im outraged, no, im outraged and appalled!!!! and shocked! and so on.. perhaps i sponsor an achievement "back after hulkageddon" how to achieve: gank as many miners not in their hulks as possible how to spot: their corp, or they left their corp just before hulk started. muahahahaha
Sedilis Lead Farmers	Posted - 2010.06.16 11:31:00 - [43] I liked it OP... quite amusing. Although I'm sure the bile filled hate posts that will be up shortly will be more entertaining.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.16 11:32:00 - [44] you lads are misunderstanding what they do it for, they LIVE to create drama, this walnut helokitty, or whatever his name is, just wants notoriety.... You are also posting on eve forums, widely known for angst an hate. The more you complain the more they love it. Just laugh at them like you would any child in your home an ignore them. They are not important.
aRidionn	Posted - 2010.06.16 11:44:00 - [45] Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Ripperljohn Caldari Paladin Order	Posted - 2010.06.16 11:48:00 - [46] Originally by: Zill you lads are misunderstanding what they do it for, they LIVE to create drama, this walnut helokitty, or whatever his name is, just wants notoriety.... You are also posting on eve forums, widely known for angst an hate. The more you complain the more they love it. Just laugh at them like you would any child in your home an ignore them. They are not important. pr0 RITALIN! RITALIN!
GavinCapacitor	Posted - 2010.06.16 14:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Jeron kahyar Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: The Crushah I am not reading that.
Astald Ohtar Tous Pour Un Une Pour Tous	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:17:00 - [48] so now if im gonna mine i need to bribe concord to watch me mine in my belt? , i hope my hulk isnt a one shot =p
FeralShadow Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:18:00 - [49] As a pirate of low sec I have a few things to say: #1 - dainty damsels dazzling dastard drone fleets Yes, I've seen many of these. #2 - we're rich? that's news to me. Besides most of us pirates in low sec can't be arsed to go into high sec for hulkageddon, as much fun as it might be, we have plenty of pickins in our own hood. Besides we can't even undock without getting attacked by the darn faction police. Though.. there are ways around that.... _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura -CDS Now Taking Contracts-
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Dominic Jacara Give us a break. I mean... seriously! Give us a break from your anti-social behaviour. Ankh, is that you?
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:37:00 - [51] Originally by: Zill you lads are misunderstanding what they do it for, they LIVE to create drama, this walnut helokitty, or whatever his name is, just wants notoriety.... You are also posting on eve forums, widely known for angst an hate. The more you complain the more they love it. Just laugh at them like you would any child in your home an ignore them. They are not important. I love my notoriety. and then there is uninspired jealous people like Zill, who will never ever attain any sort of recognition or create anything in their lives. And they fester in bitterness, all they can do is complain about what others accomplish, because they know they will never be loved or attain anything. Most of them never learn to change their perspective, and die, old and unloved. Maybe it's not too late zill, maybe you can turn yourself around and DO something rather than try to detract from other people's work in your bitter jealousy. also, inB4 zill pretends he is not bitter and jealous, the poor soul.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:41:00 - [52] Originally by: Helicity Boson Maybe it's not too late zill, maybe you can turn yourself around and DO something rather than try to detract from other people's work in your bitter jealousy. Don't get his hopes up... it is far too late. ----- My Blog
Sully Tude	Posted - 2010.06.16 15:47:00 - [53] Confirming I will be parking my Hulk and lounging on the porch of my shiny new command centre on some temperate (read, "Tropical") planet while the ebil piwates chase sensor ghosts all around empire space I foresee epic volumes of "carebear tears" from people who A) macro mine or B) afk mine and don't read the forums or C) afk mine. There's too many miners anyway. There should be these events every 3 months to cull the herd :)
Grunanca Final Agony B A N E	Posted - 2010.06.16 17:23:00 - [54] Edited by: Grunanca on 16/06/2010 17:23:11 A small teaser of how its done Tempest violating boats
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.06.16 18:14:00 - [55] Originally by: Dominic Jacara Give us a break. I mean... seriously! Give us a break from your anti-social behaviour. Just because you claim it is within the game mechanics and CCP never seem bothered to respond to what plenty of other players see as harassment, doesn't mean you should do it. Believe it or not, there are people working up at CCP that find this whole thing quite amuzing. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
James Rehnold Amarr Expense Solutions OUTER-HEAVEN	Posted - 2010.06.16 19:15:00 - [56] Well, although I can't fly a Hulk yet, I will be parking my Retriever for the duration of this event as I happily haul stuff from my Planetary Outposts waiting for Astrogeology V to complete itself. I am thinking Temperate planets, I hear its nice there this time of the year.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.16 19:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Barakkus Originally by: Dominic Jacara Give us a break. I mean... seriously! Give us a break from your anti-social behaviour. Just because you claim it is within the game mechanics and CCP never seem bothered to respond to what plenty of other players see as harassment, doesn't mean you should do it. Believe it or not, there are people working up at CCP that find this whole thing quite amuzing. not only that, they heartily endorse it. go see the hulkageddon thread and its dev love <3
Kobrakilla Space Jerks The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.16 22:01:00 - [58] TL;DR
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.17 00:27:00 - [59] I wasn't going to reply to your silly little jibe, but I couldn't stop laughing at your almost...fanatical ?? belief in the fact you think a computer game is achieving anything in life..... It's true,I do think your a muppit, but I have t admit that was actually really funny. For that alone I gotta thank you for giving me a laugh today. Unfortunately for you sonshine, eve is not reality. It's a little more difficult in real life, but hey, once you grow up a bit I'm sure you'll get there.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.17 00:38:00 - [60] Originally by: Zill I wasn't going to reply to your silly little jibe, but I couldn't stop laughing at your almost...fanatical ?? belief in the fact you think a computer game is achieving anything in life..... It's true,I do think your a muppit, but I have t admit that was actually really funny. For that alone I gotta thank you for giving me a laugh today. Unfortunately for you sonshine, eve is not reality. It's a little more difficult in real life, but hey, once you grow up a bit I'm sure you'll get there. it's muppet, sunshine, and you don't know how old I am. But it's ok, please continue to claw at your vanishing dignity, keep trying to sound old and wise. Everybody here knows you're a grade-A loser, we all feel pretty sorry for you. Why don't you go fight some more wars, maybe you'll climb above BC rating 66k or so, heck you might even get more than 200 kills one day! We still believe in you, even though you have clearly given up on yourself. Cheer up emo kid, try to have some fun in your life, there may still be time for you!
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.17 00:42:00 - [61] Originally by: Zill I wasn't going to reply to your silly little jibe, but I couldn't stop laughing at your almost...fanatical ?? belief in the fact you think a computer game is achieving anything in life..... It's true,I do think your a muppit, but I have t admit that was actually really funny. For that alone I gotta thank you for giving me a laugh today. Unfortunately for you sonshine, eve is not reality. It's a little more difficult in real life, but hey, once you grow up a bit I'm sure you'll get there. Not mad IRL at all.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.17 01:43:00 - [62] lol thank you for your concern over my health, it's gratefully accepted.
FunzzeR Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.06.17 01:56:00 - [63] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Zill I wasn't going to reply to your silly little jibe, but I couldn't stop laughing at your almost...fanatical ?? belief in the fact you think a computer game is achieving anything in life..... It's true,I do think your a muppit, but I have t admit that was actually really funny. For that alone I gotta thank you for giving me a laugh today. Unfortunately for you sonshine, eve is not reality. It's a little more difficult in real life, but hey, once you grow up a bit I'm sure you'll get there. Not mad IRL at all. Has he wished some terrible and disfiguring disease on us yet? (Ingame of course) PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!!
Abulurd Boniface Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries	Posted - 2010.06.17 06:15:00 - [64] Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 17/06/2010 06:18:34 Originally by: Zill but I couldn't stop laughing at your almost...fanatical ?? belief in the fact you think a computer game is achieving anything in life..... I beg to differ. The game America's Army is designed to give young Americans an idea of the skill set required and the mindset to do well in the Armed forces. The core business of the American armed forces is to kill people all over the planet. They're quite serious about it. They use a video game as a vector for guiding a young mind on the way to becoming a team player who internalizes the characteristics of how a soldier should behave. That doesn't sound like a computer game "not achieving anything in life" to me. If it didn't help them achieve that goal they wouldn't be doing it in the first place. Specifically the kind of game that induces an enhanced emotional involvement by spending a lot of time in a persistent coherent narrative is something that guides a mind to different thinking. EVE very much is part of a reflection of the real world, if only because it is morally ambiguous, just as the real world is. I've become a graduate of the NBSAAA myself [the Niko Bellic School of Applied Automotive Assertivity]. It's not that I like careening into people and objects [very much against it], but it has shown me there are very many ways of leaning on the rules that make life a tad easier [and also, to get the damn show on the road already when people take the car for a walk]. But that's just a cheesy, tongue-in-cheek personal experience. America's Army is not a toy. Video games can have a much deeper connection to the real world than mere Pacman. Quote: It's a little more difficult in real life This is entirely dependent on personal perspective. For many people life is the eternal drudgery on the way to the last clone. It doesn't have to be. Life is what you make it [a cliche for a reason]. It's all a matter of perspective. There are people whose world collapses because they didn't get their birthday Lexus on the day proper [or it was the wrong color], there are people who have no arms who go "I'm flying that damn plane anyway". "Life sucks" is a personal choice. I've seen people get their battleship blown up and rage quit. That's what their life is like in the real world too. For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease.
Ori Blake	Posted - 2010.06.17 06:22:00 - [65] It's different with games though. No one plays a game to be frustrated: they play it to relax and succeed. That's why they don't take defeat well or like it: why is it fun to get suicide ganked or lose your ship with little to no way to control it? A game is optional, too. No one wants to pay 15 bucks a month to feel that they suck. Oh, and I agree on the vacation. Best thing to do if they make a game out of killing you is to not play.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.06.17 07:16:00 - [66] Nope, still not reading any of that.
Abulurd Boniface Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries	Posted - 2010.06.17 07:34:00 - [67] Originally by: Ori Blake Oh, and I agree on the vacation. Best thing to do if they make a game out of killing you is to not play. I am not advocating not to play. After all, you don't pay not to play. There are however plenty of other things to do in EVE that don't involve flying a Hulk. A fun and cheap thing to do would be to visit all the systems [non-whiskey space]. The nav provides an overview of all the systems you've been to and how many times you've been there. Venturing out into the far reaches of space to acquire an appreciation of the size of EVE, that's something on my to-do list. For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease.
Brusanan Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.17 07:34:00 - [68] Edited by: Brusanan on 17/06/2010 07:34:48 Originally by: Ori Blake It's different with games though. No one plays a game to be frustrated: they play it to relax and succeed. That's why they don't take defeat well or like it: why is it fun to get suicide ganked or lose your ship with little to no way to control it? First of all, everyone has different reasons for playing the game. I definitely don't play Eve to relax. And I feel like I succeed in the game every time I see a helpless carebear explode. And Hulkageddon is supposed to be fun for the gankers, not the gankees. ______
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.17 09:23:00 - [69] Edited by: Helicity Boson on 17/06/2010 09:23:40 Originally by: Brusanan And Hulkageddon is supposed to be fun for the gankers, not the gankees. I said it last time. I will say it again. They can grow a pair, get some friends, and try to stop us. Theres no reason the bears can't have fun with this, it doesnt take 20 million SP to fit some warp disruptors and sensor boosters and to tackle gankers as they jump into highsec you know? This defeatist, victim attitude is incredibly common in carebears, and it is something which inherently limits how much enjoyment you can have in this amazing game. It's not me (or us) that does this to you my dear bears, you do. food for thought I hope.
SunGod RA Endless Destruction	Posted - 2010.06.17 09:45:00 - [70] YOUR A MUPPIT!!!
Kaarlan Zhar	Posted - 2010.06.17 12:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 17/06/2010 09:25:57 I said it last time. I will say it again. They can grow a pair, get some friends, and try to stop us. Theres no reason the bears can't have fun with this, it doesnt take 20 million SP to fit some warp disruptors and sensor boosters and to tackle gankers as they jump into highsec you know? This defeatist, victim attitude is incredibly common in carebears, and it is something which inherently limits how much enjoyment you can have in this amazing game. It's not me (or us) that does this to you my dear bears, you do. food for thought I hope. Victim is a state of mind. See guys, it's just for your own good! Not to make a sad bully feel good about themself at all! Lol.
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.06.17 19:12:00 - [72] Pre-event tears. Nice. Ultimately though, for those of you complaining about Hulkageddon, if you can't be bothered to defend yourselves you have only yourselves to blame if you get ganked. We want to kill mining ships and we're prepared to take our fleets of cheap t1 destroyers into high-sec to do it. We don't need to use bigger ships or cleverer tactics because our targets are stupid and predictable. Those of us who do anyway, well, that's just because we can. If the only response is to complain and whine then we'll just carry on. You'll have to actually being clever if you want to avoid being killed or even, shock, turn the tables on your would be assassins. "If you aren't prepared to fight for what you believe in, you leave the world in the hands of those who are" THAT'S why this game belongs to the 'gankers and bullies'. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Ori Blake	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:10:00 - [73] Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 17/06/2010 09:25:57 Originally by: Ori Blake It's different with games though. No one plays a game to be frustrated: they play it to relax and succeed. That's why they don't take defeat well or like it: why is it fun to get suicide ganked or lose your ship with little to no way to control it? A game is optional, too. No one wants to pay 15 bucks a month to feel that they suck. Oh, and I agree on the vacation. Best thing to do if they make a game out of killing you is to not play. I said it last time. I will say it again. They can grow a pair, get some friends, and try to stop us. Theres no reason the bears can't have fun with this, it doesnt take 20 million SP to fit some warp disruptors and sensor boosters and to tackle gankers as they jump into highsec you know? This defeatist, victim attitude is incredibly common in carebears, and it is something which inherently limits how much enjoyment you can have in this amazing game. It's not me (or us) that does this to you my dear bears, you do. food for thought I hope. Victim is a state of mind. Uh, if they tackle pre-emptive gankers they get concorded. That's why you are doing Hulkageddon, because suicide ganking cant be pre-emptively stopped im empire. I'm not seeing you going out and trying to gank the White Rabbits or anything. You can't even wardec potential gankers because part of using the contest is to ensure so many corps and players participate that a wardec can't paralyze them. This isn't even counting NPC corp alts. Not to mention you target the least likely to be able to wardec, small hi-sec miners corps, soloists, and afk macro-miners (though macros deserve what they get.) When I pvp, there are times to run and not make yourself a target, because the engagement is structured against you. It's not being a victim to refuse to play by another person's rules, and to know when engagements don't favor one course of action. What I said by not playing was this: don't play by other's rules and give them what they want if you can help it. I agree with the OP, take a vacation from mining. Come join Factional Warfare or Red Vs Blue, or start exploring in disposable ships, maybe run missions, or just hang out and chat.
Nemain Darru Gallente The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:26:00 - [74] Originally by: Ori Blake Uh, if they tackle pre-emptive gankers they get concorded. That's why you are doing Hulkageddon, because suicide ganking cant be pre-emptively stopped im empire. I'm not seeing you going out and trying to gank the White Rabbits or anything. Learn2tackleoutlaws you're dumb. and a victim.
Ori Blake	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:49:00 - [75] Edited by: Ori Blake on 17/06/2010 20:50:24 Originally by: Nemain Darru Originally by: Ori Blake Uh, if they tackle pre-emptive gankers they get concorded. That's why you are doing Hulkageddon, because suicide ganking cant be pre-emptively stopped im empire. I'm not seeing you going out and trying to gank the White Rabbits or anything. Learn2tackleoutlaws you're dumb. and a victim. yeah, because outlaws don't use alts or fix their sec status for this, and they enter hi sec. right. You know they aren't going to go outlaw for this but recycle alts like they usually do. Anyways, carebears who think alphaing mining barges is pvp need to STFU about victims. I may be noob but I fight stuff that fights back, and I don't abuse mechanics to do so. Should call this event Carebearageddon FFS.
Medea Darklighter	Posted - 2010.06.17 21:02:00 - [76] Is it just me or is the gallente and caldari achivements switched around on the website? (Compared to the amarr/minnie)?
Ekon Bor Amarr Van Diemen's Demise Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.17 22:07:00 - [77] Originally by: Ori Blake ..Anyways, carebears who think alphaing mining barges is pvp need to STFU about victims. I may be noob but I fight stuff that fights back, and I don't abuse mechanics to do so. Should call this event Carebearageddon FFS. They aren't mutually exclusive you know. Many people (most?) who participate in Hulkageddon also do proper pvp, be it piracy, faction, sov wars or whatever. Personally I just enjoy it because it's a fun diversion. It's not (unless you are trying for one of the more esoteric awards) particularly challenging, but it passes the time. I don't think many of the participants would seriously consider it PvP though, in anything but the most literal sense... it's just enjoyable in a different way, that's all.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.18 00:03:00 - [78] Edited by: Zill on 18/06/2010 00:03:31 Edited by: Zill on 18/06/2010 00:03:05 I used to gank/grief an generally **** on peoples playtime in eve an other games, an one day I just woke up to the fact, that is is infantile behavior an beneath me. They will too one day but it takes time. It's human nature to be "tough" when there is no risk an online obnoxious teens are no different. hellokitty just wants to be noticed an talked about, I get that an I understand he thinks he's funny with this obnoxious arrogant teenage behavior he put's out. He cant help it at his age an for that alone I don't really find him annoying so much as .....feel sorry for him.We were all that way at one point lol PvE'ers are hamstrung in eve because CCP want the gankers to have it their way, as you can see by the tailor-made insurance system that allows them to do it. If CCP had any balls at all they would remove the locks on NPC corps an let us kill gankers, but they wont. Good reason non of these lads go to 0.0 ot kill hulks, is because there, there's risk an they will probably die far more often. One way you can get your own back an use the system as they do, is to have a mate hang about in a t1 frig an Pod them after concord kills em. Yes you will take a large sec hit, but it is easy to work off with help from friends.
jokerb Caldari Windowlickers Inc	Posted - 2010.06.18 00:27:00 - [79] It is really very simple. The only safe place is to be docked. Stay docked, or seriously just deal. It is internet space pixels. Some people choose to ship spin, some mine, some run missions, some WH, some 0.0, and others like to shoot all of the above. This is EVE it is a sand box. Just because you like building castles does not mean that I should not kick them in... That all said if you see me in local dock up if you are in an exhumer of any type, fair warning.
Blatantly Obvious	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:30:00 - [80] If this is a troll it worked on me. :) Could someone post up a walkthrough on how to gank the miners from scratch? i.e. fittings, skills, and what you should target with said skills and fittings. This might be fun. :)
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:35:00 - [81] Originally by: Zill Edited by: Zill on 18/06/2010 00:03:31 Edited by: Zill on 18/06/2010 00:03:05 I used to gank/grief an generally **** on peoples playtime in eve an other games, now I just cry and make trolling generalisations on the forums.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:42:00 - [82] wow how creative of you, to try an change my posts.... did you think of this on your liddwe ownsome?
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:42:00 - [83] Originally by: Zill I am pathetic
bellaren Caldari Maximatics Inc	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:44:00 - [84] Originally by: Zill werds It's easier to pretend you're not a troll alt when you don't call Helicity laughable names. Since you seem to be going after the despicable teenager route, calling her one of the cutest(imo) creatures on the webz works against you. Also when your trying to be a good troll, which we all know you are capable of, you shouldn't be so obviously hypocritical. You admit that you used to act like an abused teenager and yet one day grew out of it, and yet you don't seem to want "hellokitty" to. You're just quick to judge for something you used to do. Plot holes really are ruining it for you this time Zill and I hope that you do better and go back to the HG:II level of skill that I respect you for. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SHH I'm pretending to be a girl, don't tell anyone. lolsig
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 01:48:00 - [85] Plus you baww about Helicity arranging this event yet commend and lament the passing of Goons Jihadswarm period. This obviously isn't a personal vendetta against Helicity
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.18 02:21:00 - [86] Originally by: bellaren Edited by: bellaren on 18/06/2010 01:53:41 Originally by: Zill werds It's easier to pretend you're not a troll alt when you don't call Helicity laughable names. Since you seem to be going after the despicable teenager route, calling her one of the cutest(imo) characters on the webz works against you. Also when your trying to be a good troll, which we all know you are capable of, you shouldn't be so obviously hypocritical. You admit that you used to act like an abused teenager(in various games) and yet one day grew out of it, and yet you don't seem to want "hellokitty" to. You're just quick to judge for something you used to do. Plot holes really are ruining it for you this time Zill and I hope that you do better and go back to the HG:II level of skill that I respect you for. edit-word choice and clarification "snickers" I guess I'm busted....sigh was fun while it lasted
Kievan Ariskana Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.18 05:20:00 - [87] And there goes yet again some valuable time mining ice to keep my towers online because some real pvp-ers can only target non-pvp ships.
Ehnea Mehk	Posted - 2010.06.18 07:42:00 - [88] Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 18/06/2010 07:42:59 I've been reading with interest this Hulkageddon event in both the forums and in the Help chat. I cannot believe people actually take delight and sport out of bullying other people who enjoy playing an aspect of the game that is nonviolent. Worse, reading what you have to do for prizes reminds me of an event involving my godson that happened 3 years ago. There was a contest in a school which involved earning prizes based on what you did to a kid who was considered a nerd, the acts ranging from egging, theft of personal property, damage to lockers up to being beaten up. My godson, afer being surrounded by a bunch of thugs during this contest, had his middle finger dislocated in order for someone to earn a prize. All because he was classified a nerd, he was the target for earning a prize, and someone thought it would be really fun to do that to him. Before you all start getting upset about comparing an actual real life incident to a game festival, consider this: This isn't about invoking your right to engage in one-on-one PvP or even for the sake of pirating. This is no test of combat skills or genius of who built the best bad-ass weapon of mass-destruction. This is a deliberate targeting of players who pay a subscription (from their hard-earned dollars they earn working at a job) just for the sheer delight of, to use the words of some pro-Hulkageddon fans, "make carebears cry". It's no different than what was done during this school contest. People are telling me, a miner, who enjoys EVE Online for the sake of making ISK, refining and manufacturing, to simply stay docked during this foolish event, don't bother logging on. Take a vacation. My response to that: to blazes with you. I enjoy mining. Refining. Making ISK. Being "a carebear", if you will. It's my right to do what I please within the guidelines of the EULA with the subscription I paid for. I won't be told what to do. I made private contracts and I promised people they will get their ore. No matter what a bunch of bullies say. Having said this, I'm not dumb or stupid. I'm not going to bring out assets that are clearly going to be at risk during this event. Insurance and clones only go so far. But my corporation, small that it is, will still mine. We'll fly probes, bursts, slashers, anything that can fit a miner laser and carry expanded cargo holds. We are going to feast on ore during Hulkageddon. We are not going to be made ashamed or frightened for what we enjoy doing on EVE. And I ask all miners who feel the same way I do to say, "Screw Hulkageddon, we're mining".
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 09:14:00 - [89] Originally by: Kievan Ariskana And there goes yet again some valuable time mining ice to keep my towers online because some real pvp-ers can only target non-pvp ships. Anyone claiming it's about real pvp is an idiot. Stockpile some ice products asap if you are actually concerned about your towers. This whiner lacks the ability to adapt, you will not do well. Originally by: Ehnea Mehk This isn't about invoking your right to engage in one-on-one PvP or even for the sake of pirating. This is no test of combat skills or genius of who built the best bad-ass weapon of mass-destruction. This is a deliberate targeting of players who pay a subscription (from their hard-earned dollars they earn working at a job) just for the sheer delight of, to use the words of some pro-Hulkageddon fans, "make carebears cry". It's no different than what was done during this school contest. It's about blowing up expensive ships and having a bit of fun doing something OTHER than day to day PVP. No individuals are targeted and TBH suck it up Eve is a dangerous universe and you should accept that whenever you choose to use your hard-earned dollars to continue to subscribe to the privilege of joining in. There's plenty of other games that offer a softer approach if you don't like the danger element (no I don't want to say go back to wow). As for the rest of your comment; you show an ability to adapt, you will do well I am sure. One thing, I would have thought coercers could be insured to a decent enough degree to make them more profitable to use than mining frigs?
Ehnea Mehk Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.18 09:43:00 - [90] quote=Gladys Pank] Originally by: Kievan Ariskana And there goes yet again some valuable time mining ice to keep my towers online because some real pvp-ers can only target non-pvp ships. Anyone claiming it's about real pvp is an idiot. Stockpile some ice products asap if you are actually concerned about your towers. This whiner lacks the ability to adapt, you will not do well. Originally by: Ehnea Mehk This isn't about invoking your right to engage in one-on-one PvP or even for the sake of pirating. This is no test of combat skills or genius of who built the best bad-ass weapon of mass-destruction. This is a deliberate targeting of players who pay a subscription (from their hard-earned dollars they earn working at a job) just for the sheer delight of, to use the words of some pro-Hulkageddon fans, "make carebears cry". It's no different than what was done during this school contest. It's about blowing up expensive ships and having a bit of fun doing something OTHER than day to day PVP. No individuals are targeted and TBH suck it up Eve is a dangerous universe and you should accept that whenever you choose to use your hard-earned dollars to continue to subscribe to the privilege of joining in. There's plenty of other games that offer a softer approach if you don't like the danger element (no I don't want to say go back to wow). As for the rest of your comment; you show an ability to adapt, you will do well I am sure. One thing, I would have thought coercers could be insured to a decent enough degree to make them more profitable to use than mining frigs? Gladys, help me out here: if it is about blowing up expensive ships, why not simply do that with expensive warships going head to head in PvP? Better still, why not blow up your own Hulks and other mining ships instead of targeting people who do not want to fight, have invested a considerable amount of time and ISK in getting the skill books to operate these ships? I'm sorry, but I think Kievan nailed it: you guys are doing this because you know you can defeat a player that is incapable of defending himself and deriving pleasure from making him upset at losing something he did not want risk losing. I believe that is called being a bully. Sorry, you can call me more names if you want (it kinda fits in the bullying theme) but that is the way I feel. If Eve is this dangerous universe like you say, and we should be prepared for combat wherever we warp, why is there CONCORD? Why is there 1.0 space where even NPC Rats fear to tread? Maybe because the devs felt there are going to be people who do not PvP? I mean, fine, if you really want EVE to be the hardcore game you say it is, petition the devs to abolish CONCORD and to erase the concept of security level space. Make it one big happy 0.0 for everyone to fight over. I'd actually accept that, not renew my sub, and go to the games you described above. But Kievan has brought up a lot of good points about players being a bit thuggish, and they do deserve some thought in comparison to what the EULA is supposed to stand for. Ehnea Mehk
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.18 09:49:00 - [91] Edited by: Helicity Boson on 18/06/2010 09:50:50 Originally by: Ehnea Mehk This is no test of combat skills or genius of who built the best bad-ass weapon of mass-destruction. I would contest that statement by saying I have built the most bad-ass weapon of empire hulk destruction known to man. And you do not need combat skills to win a war, personal charisma goes a long way. EDIT: also stop crying about devs and petitions, there is a Dev post in the main hulkageddon thread showing their support. Get over yourself.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:03:00 - [92] Originally by: Ehnea Mehk Gladys, help me out here: if it is about blowing up expensive ships, why not simply do that with expensive warships going head to head in PvP? Better still, why not blow up your own Hulks and other mining ships instead of targeting people who do not want to fight, have invested a considerable amount of time and ISK in getting the skill books to operate these ships? I'm sorry, but I think Kievan nailed it: you guys are doing this because you know you can defeat a player that is incapable of defending himself and deriving pleasure from making him upset at losing something he did not want risk losing. I believe that is called being a bully. Sorry, you can call me more names if you want (it kinda fits in the bullying theme) but that is the way I feel. If Eve is this dangerous universe like you say, and we should be prepared for combat wherever we warp, why is there CONCORD? Why is there 1.0 space where even NPC Rats fear to tread? Maybe because the devs felt there are going to be people who do not PvP? I mean, fine, if you really want EVE to be the hardcore game you say it is, petition the devs to abolish CONCORD and to erase the concept of security level space. Make it one big happy 0.0 for everyone to fight over. I'd actually accept that, not renew my sub, and go to the games you described above. But Kievan has brought up a lot of good points about players being a bit thuggish, and they do deserve some thought in comparison to what the EULA is supposed to stand for. What most people fail to realise is there are generally two types of participants at an event like Hulkageddon; those who normally pvp 'properly' and those that just want an easy target. Not everyone taking part is averse to pvp. Out of anyone joining in, I honestly doubt their is a belief that this is 'good', 'clever' or 'honourable' PVP. Blowing up my own hulks sounds expensive to me, plus I can't fly them, that's a bit of a silly think to ask. "you guys are doing this because you know you can defeat a player that is incapable of defending himself", that's Hulkageddon for you, an event where hulks-are-destroyed. Yes, some people do it just to grief, others are just having a bit of fun, defying CONCORD is enough entertainment in itself. CONCORD is there to punish criminals in high sec... It's been said a billion times 1.0 is safer space NOT safe space. CONCORD do a lot to stop indiscriminate killing, but they are not there to provide immunity. Why would I petition to remove CONCORD? They are there for a very good reason. I won't speak for everyone since their are clearly going to be people here purely to grief but you have to understand, not everyone is partaking just to make individuals cry. The perception that everyone endorsing this event is a real life bully is hilarious. I don't want to end on a patronising note but I really think some people place treat their internet spaceships too preciously.
Sol Mahon Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:11:00 - [93] I can't help but wonder if the time spent on Hulkageddon could be better spent doing something more fun. I can think of a few more fun things to do than attack people either unwilling or unable to defend themselves. So if I am having equal to or more fun than you whilst ensuring the general fun levels of the people I play with or against remain high, am I better at EVE than, lets say, someone who relies on immaginary "tears" to have fun? just a thought.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:18:00 - [94] Originally by: Sol Mahon I can't help but wonder if the time spent on Hulkageddon could be better spent doing something more fun. I can think of a few more fun things to do than attack people either unwilling or unable to defend themselves. So if I am having equal to or more fun than you whilst ensuring the general fun levels of the people I play with or against remain high, am I better at EVE than, lets say, someone who relies on immaginary "tears" to have fun? just a thought. Fun is a subjective term. Things you find fun, others may find completely tedious and stupid, and vice versa. But therein lies the beauty of the sandbox game design. You make your own fun. I just think that many people fail to realize that all forms of play within the rules set by CCP are equally valid, I don't begrudge the industrialist or the trader their "fun", even though it's inconceivable to me how such activities are entertaining. Just a thought.
Ehnea Mehk Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:20:00 - [95] [ Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 18/06/2010 09:50:50 Originally by: Ehnea Mehk This is no test of combat skills or genius of who built the best bad-ass weapon of mass-destruction. I would contest that statement by saying I have built the most bad-ass weapon of empire hulk destruction known to man. And you do not need combat skills to win a war, personal charisma goes a long way. EDIT: also stop crying about devs and petitions, there is a Dev post in the main hulkageddon thread showing their support. Get over yourself. I don't recall saying I was going to fill out a petition to complain to the devs about Hulkageddon. Perhaps your enthusiasm and zeal for this thugfest prevented you from reading the full post I made? In any case, I feel I made my points clear regarding this subject and I did not have to resort to personal jibes to get it across unlike some people. For what its worth, I have no intention of apologizing for the way I play the game or my views on this subject. I feel no need to push it any further. Good luck with your "fun event" Ehnea Mehk
Ehnea Mehk Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:25:00 - [96] Originally by: Gladys Pank Edited by: Gladys Pank on 18/06/2010 10:09:28 Originally by: Ehnea Mehk Gladys, help me out here: if it is about blowing up expensive ships, why not simply do that with expensive warships going head to head in PvP? Better still, why not blow up your own Hulks and other mining ships instead of targeting people who do not want to fight, have invested a considerable amount of time and ISK in getting the skill books to operate these ships? I'm sorry, but I think Kievan nailed it: you guys are doing this because you know you can defeat a player that is incapable of defending himself and deriving pleasure from making him upset at losing something he did not want risk losing. I believe that is called being a bully. Sorry, you can call me more names if you want (it kinda fits in the bullying theme) but that is the way I feel. If Eve is this dangerous universe like you say, and we should be prepared for combat wherever we warp, why is there CONCORD? Why is there 1.0 space where even NPC Rats fear to tread? Maybe because the devs felt there are going to be people who do not PvP? I mean, fine, if you really want EVE to be the hardcore game you say it is, petition the devs to abolish CONCORD and to erase the concept of security level space. Make it one big happy 0.0 for everyone to fight over. I'd actually accept that, not renew my sub, and go to the games you described above. But Kievan has brought up a lot of good points about players being a bit thuggish, and they do deserve some thought in comparison to what the EULA is supposed to stand for. What most people fail to realise is there are generally two types of participants at an event like Hulkageddon; those who normally pvp 'properly' and those that just want an easy target. Not everyone taking part is averse to pvp. Out of anyone joining in, I honestly doubt their is a belief that this is 'good', 'clever' or 'honourable' PVP. Blowing up my own hulks sounds expensive to me, plus I can't fly them, that's a bit of a silly think to ask. "you guys are doing this because you know you can defeat a player that is incapable of defending himself", that's Hulkageddon for you, an event where hulks-are-destroyed. Yes, some people do it just to grief, others are just having a bit of fun, defying CONCORD is enough entertainment in itself. (edit) Last I saw, Hulks can easily get a 25k ehp buffer tank, can field drones, and anyone getting outright ganked can use their kill rights at a later date. CONCORD is there to punish criminals in high sec... It's been said a billion times 1.0 is safer space NOT safe space. CONCORD do a lot to stop indiscriminate killing, but they are not there to provide immunity. Why would I petition to remove CONCORD? They are there for a very good reason. I won't speak for everyone since their are clearly going to be people here purely to grief but you have to understand, not everyone is partaking just to make individuals cry. The perception that everyone endorsing this event is a real life bully is hilarious. I don't want to end on a patronising note but I really think some people place treat their internet spaceships too preciously. A hulk is a tool for extracting ore from asteroids, in a videogame. Ah and the snide asides begin, right on schedule. I will end this on a friendly note: I do hope whatever you get out of this "festival" helps you feel better about yourself. Enjoy! Ehnea Mehk
Sol Mahon Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.06.18 10:26:00 - [97] Edited by: Sol Mahon on 18/06/2010 10:32:17 Originally by: Helicity Boson You make your own fun. That is true, I must just be better at it than you Originally by: Helicity Boson Just a thought. Also thats not a thought, it's an opinion Edit: My quotes failed
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.18 11:35:00 - [98] Originally by: Spectre3353 dumb Actually, it was fairly amusing. But I guess you are too full of yourself? :) Tbh, I never got why miners (not macros) just put down thir barges for the hulkageddons, but who am I to judge? It gives me more gank targets after all, maybe this year I will go all out and get to the top instead of being lazy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 12:23:00 - [99] Originally by: Ehnea Mehk Ah and the snide asides begin, right on schedule. I will end this on a friendly note: I do hope whatever you get out of this "festival" helps you feel better about yourself. Enjoy! It wasn't snide. I see from your posts in other threads that you have the entire ethos of Eve wrong so lets just leave it there
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.18 13:03:00 - [100] Edited by: Zill on 18/06/2010 13:03:13 all trolling aside, they do seem to believe their talk about how tough they are, an how they cant be stopped blah blah. Funny thing is, only reason they cant be stopped is because CCP made a game centered around them. It's tailored to provide the griefers free access to ganking in highsec. They even go so far as demanding sec loss be removed, an insurance on T2 ships be maxed out. The loudest an most vulgar in the community have always been the so called "pvp elite". You only need to look at the abuse an attitudes in every single thread. In real life non of these lads would talk as tough as they do, just remember that an you'll find their attempts at "harassment" an bullying if you will are of minor inconvenience. (though I have to admit), bullying in a computer game/online is something I've never understood. It's impossible to scare someone with words.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.18 13:35:00 - [101] Originally by: Zill They even go so far as demanding sec loss be removed I would genuinely be interested in seeing which 'pvp elite' are asking for removal of sec loss. Do you have a source for this?
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.18 13:56:00 - [102] oh I saw it one of the other threads about insurance I think it was. I'm too tiered an its late to try finding it now.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.18 14:17:00 - [103] Originally by: Zill oh I saw it one of the other threads about insurance I think it was. I'm too tiered an its late to try finding it now. You got no game zill, no game at all. busted.
Blatantly Obvious	Posted - 2010.06.18 16:10:00 - [104] Re: this thread, I'm curious why people are talking about rightness/wrongness of this campaign. Are the forum warriors here in support trying to keep alive a debate to prevent ccp from changing its current stance, or do you guys just like to argue? (fwiw I realize that arguing is fun). Anyways, it would be nice if someone would post up a walkthrough on how to gank for this. i.e. what skills do you need at what level in what ships vs what targets? Can you get there from a trial account? etc.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.06.18 16:20:00 - [105] Originally by: Blatantly Obvious Re: this thread, I'm curious why people are talking about rightness/wrongness of this campaign. Are the forum warriors here in support trying to keep alive a debate to prevent ccp from changing its current stance, or do you guys just like to argue? (fwiw I realize that arguing is fun). Anyways, it would be nice if someone would post up a walkthrough on how to gank for this. i.e. what skills do you need at what level in what ships vs what targets? Can you get there from a trial account? etc. Personally I think its people coming over from games like WoW and expecting its just like WoW but with internet spaceships and more industry not realizing that the devs intended EvE to be a wholly unfair place. Many people see the world in absolute black and white terms. Either youre a good person or youre a bad person and that persona cant possibly be different than the way you are in real life. Thus if you suicide gank in game, you must be a pedophile, rapist, sadistic bastard, living in your moms basement, etc. For some people its easier to call us bad people than just accept that this is the way the game is played and adapt. There are many here for whom forum warrioring is much easier than actually playing the game.
Mitchell Hagen	Posted - 2010.06.26 05:05:00 - [106] Originally by: Brusanan And Hulkageddon is supposed to be fun for the gankers, not the gankees. The gankees will get their vengeance and their fun if they choose to exercise their killrights. To encourage this, perhaps we should organize a competition, open only to those that lost mining barges and exhumers in Hulkageddon, in which they claim the killrights on those that destroyed their mining ship for prizes. And it should run until the killrights expire. A whole month when Hulkageddon participants will have to think twice before undocking their Navy battleships. Killright Karma has a nice ring about it.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.26 12:45:00 - [107] Originally by: Mitchell Hagen Originally by: Brusanan And Hulkageddon is supposed to be fun for the gankers, not the gankees. The gankees will get their vengeance and their fun if they choose to exercise their killrights. To encourage this, perhaps we should organize a competition, open only to those that lost mining barges and exhumers in Hulkageddon, in which they claim the killrights on those that destroyed their mining ship for prizes. And it should run until the killrights expire. A whole month when Hulkageddon participants will have to think twice before undocking their Navy battleships. Killright Karma has a nice ring about it. Sounds fun, go ahead and organise it. Ill cheer you on same way I cheer Helicity on, because its someone actually going out and doing something instead of crying and whining about how the nasty griefer violenced my boat. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Mitchell Hagen	Posted - 2010.06.26 12:57:00 - [108] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Sounds fun, go ahead and organise it. Ill cheer you on same way I cheer Helicity on, because its someone actually going out and doing something instead of crying and whining about how the nasty griefer violenced my boat. I would organize it except I'm not good at organizing such things. Besides, it would take away the time that would be better spent participating in Hulkageddon (with one of my alts).
Intar Medris	Posted - 2010.06.26 15:25:00 - [109] Originally by: Sully Tude Confirming I will be parking my Hulk and lounging on the porch of my shiny new command centre on some temperate (read, "Tropical") planet while the ebil piwates chase sensor ghosts all around empire space I foresee epic volumes of "carebear tears" from people who A) macro mine or B) afk mine and don't read the forums or C) afk mine. There's too many miners anyway. There should be these events every 3 months to cull the herd :) You must really want to see mineral prices sky rocket.
Kolkuth	Posted - 2010.07.11 06:44:00 - [110] I have to admit its a well written piece and thats just what I am doing,taking a well deserved rest.
Kai Saito	Posted - 2010.07.11 11:34:00 - [111] Sandbox MMO's... love em :)
Falk vonTreskow	Posted - 2010.07.11 13:04:00 - [112] TL;DR version: (1) Killrights don't help miners. (2) are HG pilots sociopaths? Originally by: Mitchell Hagen To encourage this, perhaps we should organize a competition, open only to those that lost mining barges and exhumers in Hulkageddon, in which they claim the killrights on those that destroyed their mining ship for prizes. And it should run until the killrights expire. A whole month when Hulkageddon participants will have to think twice before undocking their Navy battleships. An excellent, albiet slightly flawed idea. We will ignore for now that if the gankee enjoyed PvP, they'd probably have been tooling around null/lowsec looking for a scrap and not flying a barge. Hypothetical case: I am a miner. My skillpoints are going to be pretty uniformly sunk into industrial skills. My spaceship command skills are probably going to be: some frigate points, Spaceship Command III, Barge V, Exumer V, and probably an industrial of some flavour or another. I will probably have fewer points in gunnery than I have in learning. We will also ignore for now that the toon who has just shot my barge out from under me is almost certainly a 9 hour old alt with just enough skills to pedal around in an 8-blaster/autocannon/whatever destroyer fit, and that after hulkageddon (or as soon as they can't fly the friendly skies of highsec), they're almost certainly bound for a 10 hour trip to the Soylent Green factory. The people who participate in Hulkaggedon (well, OK, the people who participate in hulkaggedon as something other than targets) are not miners. They probably do not enjoy mining or industry, and as such are unlikely to have spent many points on Pyroxers Refining V. They're also likely to roll in gangs (because 1 on 1 PVP requires about a 4:1 KDR in a fair fight to break even), have the skills and ISK to fly T2 combat ships (and, when they aren't suicide ganking highsec newbs, probably do). If we assume that the mining character trains at around 1600sp/hour (their attributes are unlikely to favour perception/willpower, i.e. ships & guns), and that they train for 3 weeks 6 days before they encounter their 'mark', that gives them 1,036,800 sp worth of pew pew skills. By my numbers, that will give them the skills for a tech 1 battleship at ~BSIII. (I'm assuming they start with shield tanking & core competencies and nothing else combat related). Being a miner, it may also have an, er, 'novel' fitting (artillery on a dominix because 1400mm > 425mm, and that better, right?). A gang of 5-8 people (probably about average for roving PvP) who are genuinely good at PvP flying non failfitted faction battleships, probably in <0.4 sec versus a disgruntled carebear flying a tech 1, probably low-meta BS. I suspect I'd probably think twice about undocking, albeit only to check that fraps was running when I did. At the end of they day, the argument against HG as articulated here is "I do not derive any fun from being killed from a position from which I cannot defend myself". That's fair enough. I've had a server bug force me to play a round of TF2 in "you have failed" mode, and can empathise. The argument for HG as articulated here seems to be "I enjoy it, and everyone else can get stuffed". Having heard the arguments, I side with the miners on this one. The devs don't agree with me? Well the devs are welcome to let me know how much I've hurt their feelings by expressing a contrary opinion. Finally, the thought occurs that if CCP would just have asteroids send wounded-feelings smacktalk in local and/or by evemail, miners might start to understand the thrill and challenge facing combat pilots during HG.
Azishkra'elhykai Mizamel Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.07.11 14:51:00 - [113] Originally by: Falk vonTreskow TL;DR version: (1) Killrights don't help miners. (2) are HG pilots sociopaths? Confirming that I orgasmically enjoy killing defenseless hulks and pretending I am correct to do so in order to save the Space Ducks (yes, I read that thread).
Deacon Palmer Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2010.07.11 16:38:00 - [114] Originally by: Falk vonTreskow TL;DR version: (1) Killrights don't help miners. (2) are HG pilots sociopaths? I am enjoying H3, in response to (2) If I was, would I even realize it? In response to (1) For the most part you are right. The 'Killrights should be transferrable to mercs' argument is a very good one. I would support it completely, as it would give killers another way to make money. again, the sandbox. all part of the experience. Mine, gank, probe, create, build, die. whatever. Squirt carebear.
Hashmir Zavala Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.11 17:22:00 - [115] Originally by: Falk vonTreskow Finally, the thought occurs that if CCP would just have asteroids send wounded-feelings smacktalk in local and/or by evemail, miners might start to understand the thrill and challenge facing combat pilots during HG. That would be awesome. I totally support smack talking asteroids (and space ducks).
Leonard Cage Minmatar Mors Fortuna Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.07.11 23:51:00 - [116] It is true ... is a sandbox, these events make EVE, much more interesting. I am particularly mining pilot, so these 9 days I'll take a break. My ships will be firmly on the stations. So thanks, I'll take a vacation.
Marcus Reinhard	Posted - 2010.07.11 23:56:00 - [117] next year entered the contest
TipsyMcStagger Caldari Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2010.07.12 02:03:00 - [118] Edited by: TipsyMcStagger on 12/07/2010 02:04:43 Has podageddon can has cheezberger? 2010.07.12 00:40:00 Victim: * Corp: * Alliance: * Faction: * Destroyed: Capsule System: Uttindar Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 278 Involved parties: Name: TipsyMcStagger (laid the final blow) Security: -1.9 Corp: Hulkageddon Orphanage Alliance: HYDRA RELOADED Faction: NONE Ship: Thrasher Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 278 2010.07.12 01:36:00 Victim: * Corp: * Alliance: * Faction: * Destroyed: Capsule System: Colelie Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 303 Involved parties: Name: TipsyMcStagger (laid the final blow) Security: -3.5 Corp: Hulkageddon Orphanage Alliance: HYDRA RELOADED Faction: NONE Ship: Thrasher Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 303
Driller Hard	Posted - 2010.07.12 03:32:00 - [119] Originally by: Nephene Armandi wow, a lot of people missed the point of the OP. it's an address to miners to simply stop mining during hulkageddon so the gank squads wont have any targets. even more people chose to simply respond without reading it altogether. some of us dont lurk in the forums, and have never heard of hulkageddon. but we lost our hulk anyway didnt we?
Messoroz	Posted - 2010.07.12 03:39:00 - [120] Originally by: Mitchell Hagen Originally by: Brusanan And Hulkageddon is supposed to be fun for the gankers, not the gankees. The gankees will get their vengeance and their fun if they choose to exercise their killrights. To encourage this, perhaps we should organize a competition, open only to those that lost mining barges and exhumers in Hulkageddon, in which they claim the killrights on those that destroyed their mining ship for prizes. And it should run until the killrights expire. A whole month when Hulkageddon participants will have to think twice before undocking their Navy battleships. Killright Karma has a nice ring about it. FYI: the participants are using alts or definitely not flying navy battleships. Want to know why? Their sec status is most likely at -10 meaning they live in low and null. Miners are too **** chicken to ever go there. Besides the fact miners don't have combat skills and kill rights only allow the owner of the rights to attack, you can RR him but what are you going to do agaisnt someone with systems full of blue who will swarm on you in a second?
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.07.12 10:47:00 - [121] Quote: You must really want to see mineral prices sky rocket. I'd love to. Not going to happen though. Hulkageddon should be always running for months just to impact for more than 2-3% production rate. Even then, for some reason this event is exclusively hi sec based, there's no Russiageddon or whatever to cull the TONS of macroers in drone regions and basically all over 0.0. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Witchmaker	Posted - 2010.07.13 02:25:00 - [122] Edited by: Witchmaker on 13/07/2010 02:34:01 I for one would love to see the macros in Osmon get taken out! As a miner I find the week and half holiday very relaxing! And am very amused by all the tears!And now thinking of changing career paths!
DarkStorm1000	Posted - 2010.07.13 03:53:00 - [123] Edited by: DarkStorm1000 on 13/07/2010 03:58:03 OMG. I have read this thread and have never seen so many whiny sniveling balls of Jell-o in all my life. So afraid to lose a ship and outraged that someone would have the audacity to attack YOU of all people. Oh my, how dreadful! What is the point of playing any type of game without the "rush" you get when you PvP someone, and one of you is going to die and the Victor gets to figuratively stand over the corpse, gets KB bragging rights, and taking of the vanquished' treasure (Loot). Why do you spend endless hours making ISK with your Main....to what end? The only reason you should have to make ISK, is to buy better, deadlier ships, weapons and fittings so you can kill the other guy more effectively. If your end-game is to prove how intellectually superior you are at making money, that time would be better served applied to REAL LIFE money making activities. Further, All these pretty faction toys I see flying around high-sec makes me want to vomit. They are as useful as **** on a bull if you are not going to PvP with them. PIMP Fleet FTW! You should all come out to lowsec and learn how to be killers and criminals. It'll be the rush of your life. I'd say go to 0.0 too, but I know your Care Bear ways would override the whole point of going there, and you'd turn into another 0.0 Care Bear. Oh, and sec status 1.0 will only keep you safe if me and my friends are not in there with you! http://hulkageddon3.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=1142 And the whole point for those of us who participate in Hulkageddon besides to win it, is to hear you high-sec hiders emo-rage and cry your little tears when you lose your prescious ships. Gawd what fun! Let the raging begin....
Krans Hopeson Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2010.07.13 12:58:00 - [124] Originally by: Falk vonTreskow The people who participate in Hulkaggedon (well, OK, the people who participate in hulkaggedon as something other than targets) are not miners. They probably do not enjoy mining or industry, and as such are unlikely to have spent many points on Pyroxers Refining V. They're also likely to roll in gangs (because 1 on 1 PVP requires about a 4:1 KDR in a fair fight to break even), have the skills and ISK to fly T2 combat ships (and, when they aren't suicide ganking highsec newbs, probably do). Hi there! I've been participating in Hulkageddon and I have been having great fun blowing up miners! As it happens, among my many skills I have Mining Director V, Refining V, Mining Barge V, Exhumers III, and Industrial Command Ships I. Your sweeping generalisations are so endearing. -- "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask."

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