Rouge, I talk about crazy ideas with my boss all the time and he shoots them down, I'm almost certain some of our customers would be very disturbed by some of the wild ideas I have tried to fling his way over the years, none of it is meant to fleece our customers by any means, but then some of my ideas would be time consuming, and costly, and customers might get the impression that my wanting to sell them this 'new product' is an attempt to fleece them.

That's just the way it works, we are just as sensitive about the economic situation of our customers as necessity merits, i.e. we need to turn a profit, but we are not looking to bankrupt our clientele either, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, as it were.

CCP driving away their customer base is the last thing they want, you can be guaranteed of this, now whether they stumble into just that situation is up for debate or not, what is not up for debate is the fact that they rely on subscribers to pay the bills, and even if it seems to some of you that they are attempting to drive those subscribers away, or are blind to the fact that they are, or do not care... at least two of those things could not possibly be true, and the one that could be true, we will never know until it happens.

Maybe they have lost touch with their subscriber base, maybe they have not. All I can say is, do not just marginalize them as "CCP", rather ... realize that as clearly volatile as the subscriber base has evidently come, what makes you think CCP would even dare risk alienating all of us now at this very moment?

Trust me, they have gotten the memo that a large portion of the forum goers will absolutely not play the game if it truly goes P2W, but whether they sneak in perks and 'skill boosters' is another matter. The argument's against such things are a lot slimmer in a grand sense, as we all have to realize, this game needs more subs, or more money from the subs it has, to keep producing new content, because the content that came before it still has to be maintained as well, etc. etc. product overhead and operating costs, all that blahness... etc.... I'm tired, so maybe tomorrow we can talk more about practicality, and the like.

Sorry, diminishing marginal utility begs to differ. We do not have news letters because we have no need of them, however, our meetings and discussions are just as important to us as newsletters may or may not be to CCP.





You take all of this way too seriously if you think I have any other motives than to seek out the actual truth of the matter, which is all I ever really care about. It takes too much time and effort to do anymore than that, because I care little in the longrun. This is just a game, in twenty years, it will be a memory, in a hundred years it will be a ledger on some paperwork rotting away in a storage facility, or platters slowly corroding over time on an old hard drive that went obsolete decades prior, and I won't be around to enjoy the memories anymore anyways.

Go out and take a breath of fresh air man, this whole 'us versus them' thing, esp. when you guys start to include other subscribers in it, is really cliche and extremely silly.

Sure, maybe there are some subscribers out there who delight in your torment, or misfortune, or the notion that the game is going to 'die' as it were and or maybe they are diehard loyalists to a video game developer, who knows, people are all kinds of stupid everywhere you go.

But stop trying to play the 'you must be against me if you are not with me' card with people who actually want to have rational and reasonable discussions with you.

It is silliness.


At the end of the day, CCP wants this product to thrive and continue thriving just as much as we do, whether they do it right or not in that regard is another matter... but FOR NOW, none of these concerns of yours have even seen the light of day, so this is all hypothetical, no matter the newsletters, leaked CEO emails, or any of it. Until the first game breaking item hits the NEX store on SiSi, or a dev blog, this is just arguing in circles.

We all want what is best for the game, but in different ways, hopefully CCP does not drop the ball, but none of our talk is really doing any good, and to be honest, I tire of it, esp. when people start blasting me with "I don't trust you, you're sneaky!" ...

WTF man? Seriously? You don't trust me, what, do you think I'm trying to pee in your cornflakes or somethin? I do not even care enough to be sneaky, in fact, I had quit the game for good up until six months ago when my group of friends in another MMO bottomed out on me and I got sentimental for fun times in EVE with friends I had left behind over here. Please, if I cared enough to screw with you or thought CCP walked on water, I would not have tried to quit the first time.

I just want the game to get better, like anyone else, but I'm not gonna go all sensationalist over a few leaked emails and a newsletter and proclaim the game is doomed. I will wait and see, then make my decisions once I have something to actually go on beyond a bunch of yammering from some suits at HQ.