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DHU InMe	Posted - 2004.11.28 22:24:00 - [1] Edited by: DHU InMe on 28/11/2004 22:34:43 It cost me 4553isk for an 4480 value mineral Micro Capacitor Battery and 1000loyalty point. It not good enough. By accepting the deal, I didn't make money, i event lost some. I have 100% ref skill and standing, I lose 73isk/module. I had 276 gift. 20k net loss + 1000 loyalty (at 160LP/mission, it make around 7 missions). Not bad itself, but no one buying those crapy modules anyway. You should cut somewhere in the evaluation of those modules like a good 20% (3584 +896isk/module profit on recycling. 247k)of recycling, so even if it not good modules, you still make some $. Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way.
DHU InMe	Posted - 2004.11.28 22:24:00 - [2] Edited by: DHU InMe on 28/11/2004 22:34:43 It cost me 4553isk for an 4480 value mineral Micro Capacitor Battery and 1000loyalty point. It not good enough. By accepting the deal, I didn't make money, i event lost some. I have 100% ref skill and standing, I lose 73isk/module. I had 276 gift. 20k net loss + 1000 loyalty (at 160LP/mission, it make around 7 missions). Not bad itself, but no one buying those crapy modules anyway. You should cut somewhere in the evaluation of those modules like a good 20% (3584 +896isk/module profit on recycling. 247k)of recycling, so even if it not good modules, you still make some $. Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way.
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:22:00 - [3] No one FORCED you to accept the offer...you lose nothing for turning it down. I got offered a 200mm Hybrid for a vast amount of Guristas Tags and Loyalty points... /me thinks for a microsecond... NO! See? It's easy... ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:22:00 - [4] No one FORCED you to accept the offer...you lose nothing for turning it down. I got offered a 200mm Hybrid for a vast amount of Guristas Tags and Loyalty points... /me thinks for a microsecond... NO! See? It's easy... ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
dabster	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:39:00 - [5] Edited by: dabster on 29/11/2004 09:43:02 I got 133 toxic waste (illegal to carry around) for 25 loyalty points, this from an agent that i had done 1 random mission for at some time of boredom. It was borked so i never got to read the offer and i hope it didnt cost me more than all 25 lp's PS. I didnt have any items at that station so i didnt really care that i got no details. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster	Posted - 2004.11.29 09:39:00 - [6] Edited by: dabster on 29/11/2004 09:43:02 I got 133 toxic waste (illegal to carry around) for 25 loyalty points, this from an agent that i had done 1 random mission for at some time of boredom. It was borked so i never got to read the offer and i hope it didnt cost me more than all 25 lp's PS. I didnt have any items at that station so i didnt really care that i got no details. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Haratu	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:19:00 - [7] By not taking some of the offers then you can save up loyalty points for a better deal later on. For example skill books and better ships. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
Haratu	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:19:00 - [8] By not taking some of the offers then you can save up loyalty points for a better deal later on. For example skill books and better ships. I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century.
von Steinroehder	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:22:00 - [9] Of course you can turn offers down, but since they should be either lucrative or cool, and until now most of them are neither, there seems to be a discrepancy... non? von Steinroehder IONSTAR Foreign Affairs AttachÚ
von Steinroehder	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:22:00 - [10] Of course you can turn offers down, but since they should be either lucrative or cool, and until now most of them are neither, there seems to be a discrepancy... non? von Steinroehder IONSTAR Foreign Affairs AttachÚ
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:29:00 - [11] Edited by: Grey Area on 29/11/2004 10:32:37 It amazes and saddens me how many people are SO impatient in this game. "My first offer wasn't for a Tech 2 BP0 with a +7 implant thrown in free of charge so I'm gonna WHINE about it". Geez, people, give it TIME. LOYALTY points. Look up the definition. How is it rewarding loyalty if the agents give out cool offers to every Tom, Richard or Harry who happens to do one or two missions for him? ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:29:00 - [12] Edited by: Grey Area on 29/11/2004 10:32:37 It amazes and saddens me how many people are SO impatient in this game. "My first offer wasn't for a Tech 2 BP0 with a +7 implant thrown in free of charge so I'm gonna WHINE about it". Geez, people, give it TIME. LOYALTY points. Look up the definition. How is it rewarding loyalty if the agents give out cool offers to every Tom, Richard or Harry who happens to do one or two missions for him? ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
von Steinroehder	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:44:00 - [13] Yo misinterpreted my post. I didn't ask for tech 7 stuff, but: Every offer should either be cool or lucrative. Meaning: An offer either requiring more input minerals/ISK/materials than the output sells for or giving a cheap mundane item shouldn't be offered at all. When you think that a lvl 3 agent gives several thousand ISK as a bonus reward for a single mission, the bonus reward for multiple missions should be worth more (or be cooler). I can wait for those, and wait for a long time... I'd gladly spend lots of millions for a 'Steinroehder's small modal neutron blaster I' At least you shouldn't be suffering a financial loss from accepting offers, and no, being able to turn those down is no excuse for them being there in the first place Cheers, von Steinroehder IONSTAR Foreign Affairs AttachÚ
von Steinroehder	Posted - 2004.11.29 10:44:00 - [14] Yo misinterpreted my post. I didn't ask for tech 7 stuff, but: Every offer should either be cool or lucrative. Meaning: An offer either requiring more input minerals/ISK/materials than the output sells for or giving a cheap mundane item shouldn't be offered at all. When you think that a lvl 3 agent gives several thousand ISK as a bonus reward for a single mission, the bonus reward for multiple missions should be worth more (or be cooler). I can wait for those, and wait for a long time... I'd gladly spend lots of millions for a 'Steinroehder's small modal neutron blaster I' At least you shouldn't be suffering a financial loss from accepting offers, and no, being able to turn those down is no excuse for them being there in the first place Cheers, von Steinroehder IONSTAR Foreign Affairs AttachÚ
Cissy	Posted - 2004.11.29 12:21:00 - [15] Edited by: Cissy on 29/11/2004 12:26:01 ffs come back wheen you have a coupel of mils wort of lp...more lp=better rewards..... muuuu im trolling or am i? last line is my sig so take no ofence from it ____________________________________________ your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd
Cissy	Posted - 2004.11.29 12:21:00 - [16] Edited by: Cissy on 29/11/2004 12:26:01 ffs come back wheen you have a coupel of mils wort of lp...more lp=better rewards..... muuuu im trolling or am i? last line is my sig so take no ofence from it ____________________________________________ your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.29 14:59:00 - [17] Do a statement of cash flows for your character. You will find that it didn't cost you a dime to accept the offer. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Zaintiraris	Posted - 2004.11.29 14:59:00 - [18] Do a statement of cash flows for your character. You will find that it didn't cost you a dime to accept the offer. --- Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2004.11.29 15:28:00 - [19] named slaves or stuff would be nice for amarr as a useless but funny reward! i'd like to see customized stuff like this in the game too. minmatar could get a colored khumaak or whatever aso. and now stop whining before something gets nerfed again!!!!
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2004.11.29 15:28:00 - [20] named slaves or stuff would be nice for amarr as a useless but funny reward! i'd like to see customized stuff like this in the game too. minmatar could get a colored khumaak or whatever aso. and now stop whining before something gets nerfed again!!!!
Solant	Posted - 2004.11.29 15:57:00 - [21] The man has a point though... you people need to pay attention. He isn't expecting amazing loot rewards out of his agents offer, but the offers should at least be beneficial. If my agent offers me 60k ISK for 100LP and 5 of some item that costs 50k each, whats the point of the offer in the first place?
Solant	Posted - 2004.11.29 15:57:00 - [22] The man has a point though... you people need to pay attention. He isn't expecting amazing loot rewards out of his agents offer, but the offers should at least be beneficial. If my agent offers me 60k ISK for 100LP and 5 of some item that costs 50k each, whats the point of the offer in the first place?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.11.29 16:00:00 - [23] What the first poster is trying to say is that the amount of LPSs+other stuff you have to give your agent arent worth the reward youd get at all. Big reward or small, youre always paying to much. Of course, high up stuff like faction ships can be worth quite a lot, so dunno there. The offers ive seen for normal items up to now where funny If only my agent would offer me Anything. 3k LP and still no offers. I dont care if the offer is worthless, i wanna get one --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.11.29 16:00:00 - [24] What the first poster is trying to say is that the amount of LPSs+other stuff you have to give your agent arent worth the reward youd get at all. Big reward or small, youre always paying to much. Of course, high up stuff like faction ships can be worth quite a lot, so dunno there. The offers ive seen for normal items up to now where funny If only my agent would offer me Anything. 3k LP and still no offers. I dont care if the offer is worthless, i wanna get one --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2004.11.29 16:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain What the first poster is trying to say is that the amount of LPSs+other stuff you have to give your agent arent worth the reward youd get at all. Big reward or small, youre always paying to much. Of course, high up stuff like faction ships can be worth quite a lot, so dunno there. The offers ive seen for normal items up to now where funny If only my agent would offer me Anything. 3k LP and still no offers. I dont care if the offer is worthless, i wanna get one bring me 100 units of crash and for 200LP i'll offer you 50 slaves couldn't restist, just consider yourself lucky for being a male gallente and asking for an offer
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2004.11.29 16:04:00 - [26] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain What the first poster is trying to say is that the amount of LPSs+other stuff you have to give your agent arent worth the reward youd get at all. Big reward or small, youre always paying to much. Of course, high up stuff like faction ships can be worth quite a lot, so dunno there. The offers ive seen for normal items up to now where funny If only my agent would offer me Anything. 3k LP and still no offers. I dont care if the offer is worthless, i wanna get one bring me 100 units of crash and for 200LP i'll offer you 50 slaves couldn't restist, just consider yourself lucky for being a male gallente and asking for an offer
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 17:11:00 - [27] So what you're saying is that the Agent isn't allowed to screw you over now and again? Hel-lo? Brief introduction to EVE for those who've been here less than 5 seconds...cos by that time you'll have figured it out...everyone screws everyone else. It's only fair that the Agents should get in on the act. ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
Grey Area	Posted - 2004.11.29 17:11:00 - [28] So what you're saying is that the Agent isn't allowed to screw you over now and again? Hel-lo? Brief introduction to EVE for those who've been here less than 5 seconds...cos by that time you'll have figured it out...everyone screws everyone else. It's only fair that the Agents should get in on the act. ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * =========================================
DHU InMe	Posted - 2004.11.29 17:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Solant The man has a point though... you people need to pay attention. He isn't expecting amazing loot rewards out of his agents offer, but the offers should at least be beneficial. If my agent offers me 60k ISK for 100LP and 5 of some item that costs 50k each, whats the point of the offer in the first place? Yea right, someone understand something. Why such an invaluable offer had to be gave to some loyal agent runner ? There already unvaluable blueprint original of cheap small ammo, or small/micro modules. Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way.
DHU InMe	Posted - 2004.11.29 17:50:00 - [30] Originally by: Solant The man has a point though... you people need to pay attention. He isn't expecting amazing loot rewards out of his agents offer, but the offers should at least be beneficial. If my agent offers me 60k ISK for 100LP and 5 of some item that costs 50k each, whats the point of the offer in the first place? Yea right, someone understand something. Why such an invaluable offer had to be gave to some loyal agent runner ? There already unvaluable blueprint original of cheap small ammo, or small/micro modules. Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way.

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