Originally by: Gierling

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Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...

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Originally by: Clansworth

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I, on the contrary, actually really like the routing. i think it adds a LOT more control, with the ability to send parts of a product one way, and parts another.

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Originally by: Planetary Genocide

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Edited by: Planetary Genocide on 12/03/2010 18:02:11
Edited by: Planetary Genocide on 12/03/2010 18:01:30
Edited by: Planetary Genocide on 12/03/2010 18:00:42
Bug, may already be known: Cannot create a route from a storage facility to a PCC.

EDIT: Also, on the gas planet i'm currently using, Maila V, you can barely see the sector divisions. Please make them more clear :) I didn't know what they were until i zoomed out. Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE :D seed carbon and water and silicon already!

EDIT EDIT: Another bug; when you rotate the view so you're facing the "Top" (or north pole) of the planet, sector lines disappear. Same thing if you rotate towards the dark side

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Originally by: Kaaii

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Edited by: Kaaii on 12/03/2010 17:57:21


max scroll out, lava plant

In close, with sectors and storage

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Originally by: Night Light

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hmmm... is it possible to delete a route without deleting the link ? (the link can be used for routes from other PINs so deleting a link seems to drastic).

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Originally by: CCP Nimbus

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But it's quite a waste of energy to send the elevator back down to earth empty, no?

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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal

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Originally by: CCP Nimbus

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But it's quite a waste of energy to send the elevator back down to earth empty, no?

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No. As you already have to counteract gravity to avoid your elevator from plummeting to its doom on its way down - you have to slow it down, which costs energy - making it heavier will increase your elevator energy expense. Extra weight also increases the elevator inertia (or perhaps I should say, stored kinetic energy) which means it costs more energy to stop once it reaches the bottom. You could theoretically send a lighter elevator down faster because you need to spend less time (and energy) to slow it to safe speeds or full stop. Faster round trips mean more money, when the real money will be in sending stuff OFF the planet.

Why spend more energy on your elevator when you can just shoot stuff down the planet in cheap one-use drop pods?

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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal

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Originally by: CCP Nimbus

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But it's quite a waste of energy to send the elevator back down to earth empty, no?

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No. As you already have to counteract gravity to avoid your elevator from plummeting to its doom on its way down - you have to slow it down, which costs energy - making it heavier will increase your elevator energy expense. Extra weight also increases the elevator inertia (or perhaps I should say, stored kinetic energy) which means it costs more energy to stop once it reaches the bottom. You could theoretically send a lighter elevator down faster because you need to spend less time (and energy) to slow it to safe speeds or full stop. Faster round trips mean more money, when the real money will be in sending stuff OFF the planet.

Why spend more energy on your elevator when you can just shoot stuff down the planet in cheap one-use drop pods?

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Originally by: SumTing IsWong

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Question on routes:

When creating routes, I seem to run into a congestion error a lot:
"The route cannot be created, as adding traffic to one of the links over which it travels would create dangerous levels of congestion."

Is there a hard number on what amount you can pass through a link/route? Seems that 225-240 units is about it. I've had to resort to making 2 storage facilities link to a collector, and splitting the load between 2 links.

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the limits. I have one collector that makes 273 units of Nitrogen per cycle, and can't route to one storage facility as the only route, but I have another storage facility with SIX routes into it, with 139, 239, 264, 120, 203 and 220 unit routes.

Is the route limit dependent on unit type/size? Distance? Is it a limit on the sending side? Or the receiving side?

What have you seen, run into?

Thanks

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Originally by: Hestir

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each link has a certain amount of M3 an hour it can use, when I ran into this problem it was because i was trying to cram 14,000m3/hour of aluminum down a 10km3/hour pipe. all you have to do is upgrade that pipe and you are g2g.

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