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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.11.29 19:21:00 -
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after spending a good part of the day doing missions and after about 10 bs kills without them dropping a can, i finally got one.
"at last" i thought as i slowly moved towards it, opened it up and couldnt help but laugh.
from a 1mil 'corpus harbinger' i get, 1 large gamma and a medium beam laser.
pathetic loot and loot that doesnt make sense as the the crystal doesnt even fit the gun.
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.11.29 19:21:00 -
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after spending a good part of the day doing missions and after about 10 bs kills without them dropping a can, i finally got one.
"at last" i thought as i slowly moved towards it, opened it up and couldnt help but laugh.
from a 1mil 'corpus harbinger' i get, 1 large gamma and a medium beam laser.
pathetic loot and loot that doesnt make sense as the the crystal doesnt even fit the gun.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.29 19:55:00 -
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I got a 425mm Carbide Railgun from a Guristas Inferno (100k Cruiser) the other day 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.11.29 19:55:00 -
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I got a 425mm Carbide Railgun from a Guristas Inferno (100k Cruiser) the other day
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Gierling
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Posted - 2004.11.29 21:52:00 -
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I got a 100mn lifi Booster from a mercenary rookie once... musta been ferrying it for his boss.
Bastards we are lest Bastards we become. |
Gierling
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Posted - 2004.11.29 21:52:00 -
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I got a 100mn lifi Booster from a mercenary rookie once... musta been ferrying it for his boss.
Bastards we are lest Bastards we become. |
Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.11.29 22:21:00 -
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I got a siege launcher from a Frig Kill the other day .. I was like "WTF is this Glad he didn't use it"
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.11.29 22:21:00 -
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I got a siege launcher from a Frig Kill the other day .. I was like "WTF is this Glad he didn't use it"
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Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.29 22:52:00 -
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I didn't wanted to open a new thread about bs loot, so I'm using that one to point some things I have seen so far.
I currently have 15.000 LP with my level 4 agent, so I have made a good amount of kill missions until now, including a mission to go find myself another apoc 
I have seen that 60% of sansha/blood/corpus/pithi and all pirate faction bs do not drop cargo cans. Rest 40% that drop cans do drop worst stuff than frigs and cruisers. 1 unit of Shield Flux or 1 unit of 1MN Afterburner are common examples. Occasionally they drop 1 Large Armor Repairer or 1 Large Gun. Cans dropping 2 items are extremelly rare.
On the other side, I've killed Khanid Slave Traders (apocalypse npc) and they drop the common stuff you can found on Castor 0.0 bs. I haven't killed bs in 0.0 since Exodus hit eve.
I've read Zrakor or Papa Smurf talking about decreasing loot value on empire missions NPC's, and I agree with that. But I think something is wrong with the current loot as I described it. I can just wait and see what happens. Sooner or later it will be fixed, so no need to get nervous yet :) |
Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.29 22:52:00 -
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I didn't wanted to open a new thread about bs loot, so I'm using that one to point some things I have seen so far.
I currently have 15.000 LP with my level 4 agent, so I have made a good amount of kill missions until now, including a mission to go find myself another apoc
I have seen that 60% of sansha/blood/corpus/pithi and all pirate faction bs do not drop cargo cans. Rest 40% that drop cans do drop worst stuff than frigs and cruisers. 1 unit of Shield Flux or 1 unit of 1MN Afterburner are common examples. Occasionally they drop 1 Large Armor Repairer or 1 Large Gun. Cans dropping 2 items are extremelly rare.
On the other side, I've killed Khanid Slave Traders (apocalypse npc) and they drop the common stuff you can found on Castor 0.0 bs. I haven't killed bs in 0.0 since Exodus hit eve.
I've read Zrakor or Papa Smurf talking about decreasing loot value on empire missions NPC's, and I agree with that. But I think something is wrong with the current loot as I described it. I can just wait and see what happens. Sooner or later it will be fixed, so no need to get nervous yet :) |
Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:04:00 -
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So no one cares about what bs are dropping?
I have noticed NPC's at 0.0 complexes drop crap too. And I was unable to find the next key, no one dropped it. |
Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:04:00 -
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So no one cares about what bs are dropping?
I have noticed NPC's at 0.0 complexes drop crap too. And I was unable to find the next key, no one dropped it. |
Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:12:00 -
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I couldn't agree more... I did 10k in loyalty points in a day doing lvl 4 kill missions and despite killing numerous NPC BS's I didn't get one module that was worth keeping.
Angel Commanders, Mammoth Ravens etc are uber and should drop decent loot... instead they drop med shield reps and miner 1's, HOW REALISTC IS THAT?
The Battleships in lvl 4 kill missions should drop decent loot, is that too much to ask?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.11.30 19:12:00 -
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I couldn't agree more... I did 10k in loyalty points in a day doing lvl 4 kill missions and despite killing numerous NPC BS's I didn't get one module that was worth keeping.
Angel Commanders, Mammoth Ravens etc are uber and should drop decent loot... instead they drop med shield reps and miner 1's, HOW REALISTC IS THAT?
The Battleships in lvl 4 kill missions should drop decent loot, is that too much to ask?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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VOTM
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Posted - 2004.12.01 09:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Gierling
I got a 100mn lifi Booster from a mercenary rookie once... musta been ferrying it for his boss.
I got that yesterday
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VOTM
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Posted - 2004.12.01 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
I got a 100mn lifi Booster from a mercenary rookie once... musta been ferrying it for his boss.
I got that yesterday
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gofoi
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Posted - 2004.12.01 09:46:00 -
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I've done alot of em, and i have to agree the loot is ****... got a couple of Large railguns / blasters, best being a Limited Neutron blaster or Modulated Ion. But the best way imo to make agents missions worth the while is to do em solo with an alt picking up all the loot, i have 7000 LP and almost enough trit, more than enough pyrite to build a tier1 battleship
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gofoi
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Posted - 2004.12.01 09:46:00 -
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I've done alot of em, and i have to agree the loot is ****... got a couple of Large railguns / blasters, best being a Limited Neutron blaster or Modulated Ion. But the best way imo to make agents missions worth the while is to do em solo with an alt picking up all the loot, i have 7000 LP and almost enough trit, more than enough pyrite to build a tier1 battleship
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.12.01 11:04:00 -
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I don't agree... those that have every reason to complain are ppl doing "pirate faction" missions where the NPC's don't even give bounty (I'm not one of them so don't jump on me!).
For the "safety" of being in empire, the standing increases and the loyalty points you get it's pretty fair imo... complexes on the other hand need a serious boost in rewards 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.12.01 11:04:00 -
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I don't agree... those that have every reason to complain are ppl doing "pirate faction" missions where the NPC's don't even give bounty (I'm not one of them so don't jump on me!).
For the "safety" of being in empire, the standing increases and the loyalty points you get it's pretty fair imo... complexes on the other hand need a serious boost in rewards
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.12.01 11:21:00 -
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^^^ what he said
Consider yourself lucky ffs, my missions, which are done in empire dont only give me crap loot, I dont even get a ******* bounty.
I sit there and **** away millions in Torps killing Amarr Navy Apocs and all I get in agent pay of 150000isk. THATS A JOKE !!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.12.01 11:21:00 -
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^^^ what he said
Consider yourself lucky ffs, my missions, which are done in empire dont only give me crap loot, I dont even get a ******* bounty.
I sit there and **** away millions in Torps killing Amarr Navy Apocs and all I get in agent pay of 150000isk. THATS A JOKE !!!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.12.01 12:48:00 -
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About 40% of my battleships kills seem to drop containers and mostly they contain 1 large standard module.
Not having uber loot drops is a good compromise for lvl4 missions, otherwise they would be too good. On average i make about 5mil in bounties per mission if you add top level loot to that, it will be a serious imbalance when compared to 0.0 hunting. The point of Exodus was to make people move out of empire not flock back for great spawns and loot on demand.
Personally, id like to see loot, bonus's and LP scaled upwards the lower the system security is. It would add much needed traffic and also provide more of a market in those neglected areas.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator
Caldari State Citizen
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.12.01 12:48:00 -
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About 40% of my battleships kills seem to drop containers and mostly they contain 1 large standard module.
Not having uber loot drops is a good compromise for lvl4 missions, otherwise they would be too good. On average i make about 5mil in bounties per mission if you add top level loot to that, it will be a serious imbalance when compared to 0.0 hunting. The point of Exodus was to make people move out of empire not flock back for great spawns and loot on demand.
Personally, id like to see loot, bonus's and LP scaled upwards the lower the system security is. It would add much needed traffic and also provide more of a market in those neglected areas.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator
Caldari State Citizen
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allmus
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:07:00 -
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have to agree on the lvl4 drop rates, i get better drop's from 110k bounty cruisers than anything bigger.
best BS drop i got was a dual 425mm autocannon (unnamed) and most of the time i get angel log's or basic nanofibre's if it drop's atall.
about the pirate faction things, i have an idea to solve that problem of no bountys.
like with the last kill's of certain mission, where the last npc drop's 2 can's insead of one, have all the npc faction kill mission rat's drop 1 can always, and in that can have a special type of dogtag or maybe a named corpse, these things can be given to agents as trophy's and the agent could give isk rewards for them.
so it wouldn't be asmuch as the normal npc bountys, but it would be something
(i.e a empire BS *1 mill equivalent* in a pirate faction mission would always drop a named dogtag/corpse in a seperate container, these could be given to any lvl3 or above agent in exchange for about 500-600k isk)
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allmus
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:07:00 -
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have to agree on the lvl4 drop rates, i get better drop's from 110k bounty cruisers than anything bigger.
best BS drop i got was a dual 425mm autocannon (unnamed) and most of the time i get angel log's or basic nanofibre's if it drop's atall.
about the pirate faction things, i have an idea to solve that problem of no bountys.
like with the last kill's of certain mission, where the last npc drop's 2 can's insead of one, have all the npc faction kill mission rat's drop 1 can always, and in that can have a special type of dogtag or maybe a named corpse, these things can be given to agents as trophy's and the agent could give isk rewards for them.
so it wouldn't be asmuch as the normal npc bountys, but it would be something
(i.e a empire BS *1 mill equivalent* in a pirate faction mission would always drop a named dogtag/corpse in a seperate container, these could be given to any lvl3 or above agent in exchange for about 500-600k isk)
this post was funded by Quafe
now available in minmatar red.
try our new product.
Quafe's caldari version "press missiles 4TW"
limited sales offer before the next universal improvement |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:11:00 -
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This is because the BS are on a different loot table if you notice if you info the ship it comes up as "Deadspace battleship" Hence why they have the name Corpus and Pith instead of Blood and Guristas etc. This im sure is deliberate so that loot does not become overcommon. Be glad they havent nerfed the loot and quit whining.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:11:00 -
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This is because the BS are on a different loot table if you notice if you info the ship it comes up as "Deadspace battleship" Hence why they have the name Corpus and Pith instead of Blood and Guristas etc. This im sure is deliberate so that loot does not become overcommon. Be glad they havent nerfed the loot and quit whining.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
This is because the BS are on a different loot table if you notice if you info the ship it comes up as "Deadspace battleship" Hence why they have the name Corpus and Pith instead of Blood and Guristas etc. This im sure is deliberate so that loot does not become overcommon. Be glad they havent nerfed the loot and quit whining.
Stop whine about whiners. This sint a whine and there isnt any loot to nerf. get the picture? There isnt hardly any cans dropping and when they drop they have frig loot etc.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.12.01 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
This is because the BS are on a different loot table if you notice if you info the ship it comes up as "Deadspace battleship" Hence why they have the name Corpus and Pith instead of Blood and Guristas etc. This im sure is deliberate so that loot does not become overcommon. Be glad they havent nerfed the loot and quit whining.
Stop whine about whiners. This sint a whine and there isnt any loot to nerf. get the picture? There isnt hardly any cans dropping and when they drop they have frig loot etc.
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