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JurassicDragon
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Posted - 2010.03.18 03:24:00 -
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Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
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Arvald
Caldari The Lumberjacks
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Posted - 2010.03.18 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 18/03/2010 03:32:42 we are apes with large heads, and a finger poised over the "blow up world" button, that is all
Originally by: CCP Shadow Arvald, carry on with imparting your pearls of wisdom.
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MooKids
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.03.18 03:47:00 -
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There are over 200 sovereign states, thousands of factions, constant warfare and everyone is getting NBC weapons. Only a matter of time until mutually assured destruction doesn't stop one person and everything escalates. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.18 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: JurassicDragon Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
Well If you're an evangelizing christian, its because gay people are allowed to live, amongst other things.
If you're a scientist, its cause a person is smart, but people are dumb and overly reactionary,and refuse to listen to you.
If you're a conspiracy theorist, it's because the government/aliens/Molle/GoonSwarm/Mayans all want to kill us from the shadows.
If you're Mr. Joe the Plumber, it's because that's what everyone is telling you. _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.18 04:16:00 -
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Or if you are Zion's Child you take four horrible stereotypes and lump all of humanity into them by inference. 
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.03.18 04:36:00 -
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I believe the word soon was invented in the dawn of time to accurately pinpoint the end of the world.
Delenda est achura. |

Umega
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.03.18 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Umega on 18/03/2010 05:41:14 Because rational thought makes you realize that death is unavoidable..
And our chemically controlled instincts dictate that we really don't ever want to be alone..
Wanting your own freewill and control to determine your fate..
Power to dictate other people's fate..
Mesh what nature gave everyone.. ta-da. A 'desire' for Doomsday. Every brilliant minded soul has seemed to consider it to great extent, from Newton, Einstein, Caeser, Darwin, Lincoln, Aristotle.. yada-yada. Bottomline.. we're just 'programmed' to think about it.
EDIT: And if you want an even more scientific answer.. this planet eats species. Has several times over.. sure a couple from comets/meteors. Mostly this planet does away with species quite well on its own and has repeatedly throughout its 4.5 bil year lifespan. It is illogical and more crazy imo to think it won't do it again, than to ponder when/how/why.
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JurassicDragon
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Posted - 2010.03.18 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: JurassicDragon on 18/03/2010 10:26:05
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: JurassicDragon Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
Well If you're an evangelizing christian, its because gay people are allowed to live, amongst other things.
If you're a scientist, its cause a person is smart, but people are dumb and overly reactionary,and refuse to listen to you.
If you're a conspiracy theorist, it's because the government/aliens/Molle/GoonSwarm/Mayans all want to kill us from the shadows.
If you're Mr. Joe the Plumber, it's because that's what everyone is telling you.
this^^ personally i think we are capably of pulling ourselves back from the "brink" as a species, I'm optimistic about humanity surviving pretty much anything, but really the one thing stopping us is the dollar/yen/euro/seashells, imho. btw I'm more the second one, because enough people will die to start paying attention
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Arvald
Caldari The Lumberjacks
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Posted - 2010.03.18 16:24:00 -
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what i dont understand is why people are so opposed to war, every single civilization on this planet has been built through conquest and battle, humans are naturally violent creatures so why not embrace what we are instead of trying to push it away *grabs shotgun* hell i did and im a lot happier for it *annexes neighbors grill* |

Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.18 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: JurassicDragon Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
look around. look at the countries. look at the people. look at everything we accomplished, good and bad. look at what everyone feels about everything and themselves.
look around, and for every person you see, I'll show you a potential genocide.
we're too much egoistical to give quarter, and half of the world population would prefer to blow their neighbour up instead helping out.
look around, and be honest: isn't it better hope for the worst (or not hope at all), and be pleasantly surprised, than try to see the world as a flowery field and be horribly disappointed?
if you're the former, I pity you; but if you're the latter, I'll laugh at you. |

JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.18 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald what i dont understand is why people are so opposed to war, every single civilization on this planet has been built through conquest and battle, humans are naturally violent creatures so why not embrace what we are instead of trying to push it away *grabs shotgun* hell i did and im a lot happier for it *annexes neighbors grill*
Annex the whole swimming pool instead and call it Arvaldtoria. |

ggfdfasdgfsfdg
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Posted - 2010.03.18 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: JurassicDragon Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
humanity is not going is simple : if i remember in the '70 there was a oil crisis and certain gov/corps sold bonds and many this bonds are at 30 years and there are $700bn in crap bonds like that |

Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.18 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: JurassicDragon Why is it that so many people believe that humanity is going to end( and i don't mean 2012, which i think is **** )in the near future,or just won't last. I don't know why people keep thinking the human race is doomed like some emo hivemind, your thoughts or theories?
It's the same dumb predictions every time there's a semi-global crisis, depression or any major significant event. People have been predicting the end of humanity/earth/universe since the ancient babylon (and probably earlier, but didn't bother writing it down). We aren't going to just dissapear. What most people tend to mean when they speak about the end of humanity is their perceived decline of "civilisation", but that's never hurt anyone other than people unwilling to change their established preconceptions of what the world and humanity should look like.
TL;DR: The morons preaching doom in any form are nothing but the non-religious equivalent of the morons condemning you to eternal hell for not hating the two guys that got married as much as they do. |

Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.18 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Nordir TL;DR: The morons preaching doom in any form are nothing but the non-religious equivalent of the morons condemning you to eternal hell for not hating the two guys that got married as much as they do.
I'm not preaching doom. I'm just saying that we should get trim some fat. |

Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.18 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Magnus Nordir TL;DR: The morons preaching doom in any form are nothing but the non-religious equivalent of the morons condemning you to eternal hell for not hating the two guys that got married as much as they do.
I'm not preaching doom. I'm just saying that we should get trim some fat.
Some of the proverbial fat ****s are beyond help. Better to let them die of cardiac arrest and make the rest of the world a better place.
Still, the kind of problems you do mention are nowhere near the "end of humanity" or even "end of human civilisation as we know it" level. I hate it when people take minor societal problems and extrapolate unrealistically pessimistic predictions off them. |

Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Magnus Nordir TL;DR: The morons preaching doom in any form are nothing but the non-religious equivalent of the morons condemning you to eternal hell for not hating the two guys that got married as much as they do.
I'm not preaching doom. I'm just saying that we should get trim some fat.
Some of the proverbial fat ****s are beyond help. Better to let them die of cardiac arrest and make the rest of the world a better place.
Still, the kind of problems you do mention are nowhere near the "end of humanity" or even "end of human civilisation as we know it" level. I hate it when people take minor societal problems and extrapolate unrealistically pessimistic predictions off them.
meh.
I'm just pretty unimpressed by ourselves  |

Vogue
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.18 22:18:00 -
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Worrying about the end of the world is one of those arm chair commentator sports for westerners. Elsewhere people just get on with it.
Post apocolyptic films are mostly titilation for the viewer. Nothing really heavy to think about. Lots of combat scenes and perhaps some zombies. But the film 'The Road' is the exception really goes into how man can be a nasty predator without the rule of law. When i left the cinema i felt much more content with my lot in life! |

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.18 23:11:00 -
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as Magnus said, people have been predicting humanity's doom since forever, it's nothing new; some sort of weird hardwiring in our heads, I guess. |

SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.03.19 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/03/2010 00:20:53 Ehh... something will kill me eventually. I'd rather not it be something overly violent, but I suppose there's little I can do to ensure that. 
Humanity isn't going to just blink out of existence anyway, there's simply too many of us for anything less than the Earth getting blown apart having a 100% chance of wiping us out. Even then, it's likely we will have branched out elsewhere, we're severely overpopulating already and the technology to do it DOES exist (once cryogenics and fusion-technology is perfected, I predict we'll start colonizing en-mass - give it a couple of centuries). |

Epegi Givo
Amarr Araja clan
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Posted - 2010.03.19 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald what i dont understand is why people are so opposed to war, every single civilization on this planet has been built through conquest and battle, humans are naturally violent creatures so why not embrace what we are instead of trying to push it away *grabs shotgun* hell i did and im a lot happier for it *annexes neighbors grill*
Progress only comes when everyone agrees. War is just an easy/guaranteed way to force progress, so that is why it is used so often. But I find our new "peaceful progress" to be much healthier than violent progress, so I don't see why anyone would hate it. |

Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.19 04:18:00 -
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As we all grow older we all swear up and down that the old ways of honor, morals, respect, and decency have gone by the wayside. In 20 years when our children start to come into their own they will look back and say the same damned things.
The world is always ending, but its merely ending as we know it. Time will continue to march on regardless, and I personally believe the human race will persist long enough for Skynet to go live in 2012. |

Shieldss
Caldari 3rd Millennium Group Intergalactic Brotherhood
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Posted - 2010.03.19 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids There are over 200 sovereign states, thousands of factions, constant warfare and everyone is getting NBC weapons. Only a matter of time until mutually assured destruction doesn't stop one person and everything escalates.
thats job security for me..I'm a 74d in the us army...for those that dont know, i'm the Chemical subject matter expert....or so im told.
The one job everyone wants to be usless is mine lol. |

silentalleycat
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Posted - 2010.03.19 06:13:00 -
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There was life before humans, and there will be life after humans
I think they call it evolution
I don't think we will destroy ourselves, not yet anyway unless you are one of those rightwing arch conservative religious zealots living in Texas, in that case you probably been told for the 100th time that the end of the world has been delayed again because .....( never mind , off topic) |

Something Random
Gallente The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2010.03.19 10:52:00 -
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It seems that most people seem to think something amazingly bad or meerly amazing is going to happen, usually in some short time frame.
People think armageddon is iminant, space visitors will land, the earth will be hit by a mega roid next year yadda yadda yadda.
Maybe these things will happen soon, but its just as likely they have happened or are never gonna happen.
I guess there is one in there thats true and has a time scale, the earth will die as the sun expands to a red giant. I seem to remember Mars is the start of the planets outside of the predicted expansion.
Repent all yee sinners etc. |

bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:47:00 -
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eventually the entire universe will die and all matter will break down. |

Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 19/03/2010 13:58:42
Originally by: Something Random I guess there is one in there thats true and has a time scale, the earth will die as the sun expands to a red giant. I seem to remember Mars is the start of the planets outside of the predicted expansion.
The Earth is a ball of rock and water. It is an inanimate object and whether it's still habitable to humanity as we know it today will be entirely irrelevant to our survival as a species four billion years from now.
In the absurd event that we haven't expanded across the galaxy by then and still somewhat resemble the homo sapiens, The resources in the outer gas giants can still easily sustain a population of trillions of humans.
Quote: eventually the entire universe will die and all matter will break down.
And that's the moment we should be aiming to survive until.
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Zzander Solus
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Posted - 2010.03.19 14:38:00 -
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We have a six thousand year history of civilizations collapsing. To think that our civilization won't collapse at some point is rather arrogant and foolish. When it could happen, nobody really knows. There are too many variables at play for an accurate analysis. Resource depletion is common to many of the collapse scenarios. The Peak Oil Crisis is one that has certainly caught my attention, as well as the attention of world leaders and energy analysts all over the globe. Peak Oil is not about the amount of oil, but rather it is about the production vs cost threshold. It is one area that can impact every other industry on the planet. When we cross that threshold our economic recession could last for decades or centuries. |

Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.19 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zzander Solus We have a six thousand year history of civilizations collapsing. To think that our civilization won't collapse at some point is rather arrogant and foolish. When it could happen, nobody really knows. There are too many variables at play for an accurate analysis. Resource depletion is common to many of the collapse scenarios. The Peak Oil Crisis is one that has certainly caught my attention, as well as the attention of world leaders and energy analysts all over the globe. Peak Oil is not about the amount of oil, but rather it is about the production vs cost threshold. It is one area that can impact every other industry on the planet. When we cross that threshold our economic recession could last for decades or centuries.
Currently dominant civilisation collapsing doesn't mean the end of the human species. Hell, every civilisation on Earth collapsing doesn't mean the end of human species. We'd be back in stone age - maybe with a population down to a couple million if there was a nuclear war - for a few centuries, maybe even millennia, but eventually old technology would be re-discovered or re-invented, and we'd be back on track. |

Zzander Solus
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Posted - 2010.03.19 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zzander Solus on 19/03/2010 15:06:58 I agree with you Magnus. Civilization collapsing doesn't mean the end for humanity. But, the world will be far different than it is today. Humanity would have to adjust like it has in the past.
Google; EXIT MUNDI There are some interesting and humorous end-of-the-world scenarios at that site. |

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.19 16:50:00 -
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It comes down to this
There are too many people in the world, and not enough resources to go around.
second, there are also hatreds out there that have been going on since biblical times that have not gone away and are ready to explode again.
third, then entire world needs to all get laid all at the same time! seriously if everyone got laid at least 4x a month we would have a lot less problems in the world. |
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