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Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.03.26 16:28:00 - [61] Quote: 38 mil + "basically worthless" Tears. They are never worthless. Quote: Has no one mentioned the natural insta undock from Jita 4-4? Amatuers. I used to use that "natural insta" for my freigthers but once I have been scanned there for 3 times I made a mid 4-4 - to - planet other bookmark. Suicide gankers are not stupid, they also know about the planet thingie. Quote: Natural insta-undocks are almost as bad as having no insta at all. They provide a handy starting point for creating a proper one, though We say the same things too often. Wish I could get back in DR again and have some talks as alliance mates Quote: Gankers aren't the problem, people who transport more than 20 times the cost of a ship in its cargohold are. After all, would anyone carry 38,000 euros on a 800 euros value used citycar and keep those 38k euros sticked to the glasses for all to see? I mean, where did common sense go? - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Brucco	Posted - 2010.03.26 16:38:00 - [62] Originally by: MILK Monk can I suggest? 1) create instwarp BM 2) when undocking wait till 30 sec timer comes close to end (so your speed is ok (lower) for instawarp, cause too much speed at undock is not ok) 3) you are very safe during this time (because beside being invulnerable you are still in docking range!) 4) warp 5) obligatory... profit So when you initially undock you're invulnerable ? Really? I never knew that. Is this High/Low/Null Sec?
Ivana Twinkle Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:42:00 - [63] Originally by: Sheep Dip Edited by: Sheep Dip on 26/03/2010 16:12:55 The thread So far: --OP Cries fowl over suicide ganking --OP is told he is doing it wrong --Two poster nerd rages over minor detail --OP is offered advice so it doesn't happen again? --This poster edits for spelling, possible flames Did I miss anything? You forgot the cupcake!
Atomik Harmonik	Posted - 2010.03.26 18:16:00 - [64] "I'm more than sure that said 20 day old character was an alt. To train a char to fly in a bs after 20 days requires dedicated training, just for a bs, nothing else. Genuine new player wouldn't do this because that bs pilot will be good for nothing but undocking in his ship and, yes, ganking haulers in high sec. It's most likely a throw away alt of some "leet" PvPer. But strange that he'd fallen for 38 mill. Well, may be his main has some ISK problems? Who knows..." Pretty sure you're right on the character, but that being said; 38mil 'free' ISK from an instapop unprotected target...kinda like somebody waving a plate of freshly fried bacon under your nose, and then expecting you not to take a piece. No amount is too small if it's free.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2010.03.26 19:22:00 - [65] Originally by: Brucco Originally by: MILK Monk can I suggest? 1) create instwarp BM 2) when undocking wait till 30 sec timer comes close to end (so your speed is ok (lower) for instawarp, cause too much speed at undock is not ok) 3) you are very safe during this time (because beside being invulnerable you are still in docking range!) 4) warp 5) obligatory... profit So when you initially undock you're invulnerable ? Really? I never knew that. Is this High/Low/Null Sec? Yes. This thread made me hungry. Originally by: GM Horse I've sadly misplaced my magic "find farmers in ravens" button.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.26 19:36:00 - [66] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Gladys Pank Has no one mentioned the natural insta undock from Jita 4-4? Amatuers. Natural insta-undocks are almost as bad as having no insta at all. They provide a handy starting point for creating a proper one, though. I should have been clearer. They're useful in a pinch, relying on them on a regular basis is a foolish idea. You can use it to setup your own bm under hostiles noses before undocking the valuables. Signature removed, ♥ Parrots, but they aren't EVE Online sigs. Zymurgist Why you! :(((((((
Baneken Gallente Aseveljet Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.26 19:49:00 - [67] As far as 30,5K ehp goes it isn't really that much when you think of it, for example look at the humble little thorax. [Thorax, pvp rax] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x5 31,3K EHP and 390(548 with drones) dps and definitely attracts less ganks then a badger as for a 20day old character that was quite obviously someone's alt unless he grinded towards lvl 4's like no tomorrow just to get a BS to gank in Jita.
Sissy Fuzz Amarr Sissy Fuzz Communications	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:10:00 - [68] Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Shawshanke Originally by: Kuar Z'thain When Tech 1 hulls cost you NEGATIVE Isk after insurance, you can get away with doing all sorts of stupid things. Wait for the insurance fix. The insurance fix will do absolutely nothing about suicide ganking. The gankers I know have multi-billion liquid and gank empty industrials out of boredom all the time just because its easy due to industrials having no HP and the draw backs are almost non-existent. I alpha'ed a Badger in Balle, just to watch it die. Yeah. You are so big. Pathetic little nerd.
Sissy Fuzz Amarr Sissy Fuzz Communications	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:17:00 - [69] Originally by: Kerfira A wise person plays a game under the rules it has, not under the rules he wish it had! You probably didn't scout Scout for what? A BS? Originally by: Kerfira So stop crying ffs.... Stop giving imbecile advice ffs.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Shawshanke Originally by: Kuar Z'thain When Tech 1 hulls cost you NEGATIVE Isk after insurance, you can get away with doing all sorts of stupid things. Wait for the insurance fix. The insurance fix will do absolutely nothing about suicide ganking. The gankers I know have multi-billion liquid and gank empty industrials out of boredom all the time just because its easy due to industrials having no HP and the draw backs are almost non-existent. I alpha'ed a Badger in Balle, just to watch it die. Yeah. You are so big. Pathetic little nerd. Now that Badger pilot is a Ghost Rider In The Sky.

Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:32:00 - [71] Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Originally by: Kerfira You probably didn't scout Scout for what? A BS? For gankers, obviously. Quote: Stop giving imbecile advice ffs. It's excellent advice. Not understanding or heeding it is rather imbecile. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Galleter	Posted - 2010.03.27 12:28:00 - [72] heh - guys - what next? someone will suicide noobships because they have 1 unit of tritanium, and basic laser? so make in jita npc 0.0, all near jita lowsec, and let it burn. It should be fun.
Kerfira Audaces Fortuna Iuvat	Posted - 2010.03.27 12:32:00 - [73] Edited by: Kerfira on 27/03/2010 12:34:09 Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Scout for what? A BS? A BS that looks like it is waiting to gank people.... They're blindingly obvious IF you take the time to look! It is kinda like if you want to take a quick dip in the Florida Glades... You check whether there are any alligators in the water first! Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Originally by: Kerfira So stop crying ffs.... Stop giving imbecile advice ffs. Scouting, insta undocks, route planning, fitting for tank, and paying attention are EXCELLENT advice for anyone flying a hauler. If you can't see that, you're seriously deficient at playing this game ('My Little Pony Online' might be more up your alley) Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Originally by: The Crushah I alpha'ed a Badger in Balle, just to watch it die. Yeah. You are so big. Pathetic little nerd. How you can see anything wrong with blowing up spaceships in a game about blowing up spaceships, THAT's the pathetic bit Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Ralara Caldari Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.03.27 12:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Sissy Fuzz Originally by: The Crushah Originally by: Shawshanke Originally by: Kuar Z'thain When Tech 1 hulls cost you NEGATIVE Isk after insurance, you can get away with doing all sorts of stupid things. Wait for the insurance fix. The insurance fix will do absolutely nothing about suicide ganking. The gankers I know have multi-billion liquid and gank empty industrials out of boredom all the time just because its easy due to industrials having no HP and the draw backs are almost non-existent. I alpha'ed a Badger in Balle, just to watch it die. Yeah. You are so big. Pathetic little nerd. Big and Little? --
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.03.27 13:55:00 - [75] Originally by: Brucco So when you initially undock you're invulnerable ? Really? I never knew that. Is this High/Low/Null Sec? High, low and null sec. This is how you play undocking games. Undock and hit the stop button (it is the only action you can take to stay invulnerable anything else breaks the invul), for 30 seconds you are "safe" to see if you need to dock up asap or if you can continue your journey. Does not work with some stations that spit you out of docking range when you undock. Also not when the station is bubbled (I think). And of course you can be bumped out of docking range by others fed up with you docking undocking infinite times.
Ralara Caldari Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.03.27 14:22:00 - [76] Originally by: Serpents smile Also not when the station is bubbled (I think). Wrong. Quote: And of course you can be bumped out of docking range by others fed up with you docking undocking infinite times. not in those 30 seconds. --


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