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Zhek Kromtor	Posted - 2010.04.10 05:16:00 - [241] Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 10/04/2010 05:16:06 Originally by: Cambarus BAM! Got a response from a senior GM today regarding my petition :D For obvious reasons I won't post the exact response here, but suffice to say that the senior GM said that using programs such as synergy (and YES, this DOES include versions that can control several accounts at once) IS ALLOWED \o/ I think you should post it, at the very least let us know the name of the GM or the detractors will not believe you. http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.04.10 11:36:00 - [242] Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Originally by: Cambarus I think you should post it, at the very least let us know the name of the GM or the detractors will not believe you. It was GM Lelouch who answered me, and no I won't post the exact response, because posting a GM response in a thread where everyone's running around arguing the rules is...
Empress Shai	Posted - 2010.04.10 13:36:00 - [243] Originally by: Cambarus BAM! Got a response from a senior GM today regarding my petition :D ... (and YES, this DOES include versions that can control several accounts at once) I gotta search for this. Didn't know that functionality existed. Where did you find this? I haven't found it yet. I need a resource, WHERE namely
Xen Mind School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.04.10 15:14:00 - [244] bump to the top as this seems to need alot of clarification CCP get you **** together and tell us if we are allowed to extend our desktop across computers or not
Vaneshi SnowCrash	Posted - 2010.04.12 13:03:00 - [245] Awesome rig dude. Just so much awesome. If Synergy is allowed... then does the guy get his three days of game time back for an erroneous ban?
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.12 15:16:00 - [246] this on kotaku http://kotaku.com/5514947/online-gaming-rig-redefines-the-meaning-of-multiplayer BTW awesome post OP you win the forums today Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.12 16:11:00 - [247] Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 27/03/2010 21:10:54 After being erroneously 3-day banned for "macro use" while merely mining as a multiboxer (no macros or automation were being used - just Synergy a program that lets you share 1 mouse over multiple computers) I decided to make a site to demonstrate how I have adapted my technique of multiboxing to definitely not break any rules of the EULA. I no longer use Synergy or even mine. I can understand how seeing 12 ospreys mining would cause players and GM's to assume the worst. Now I'm training exploration to hopefully do some complexes. Here's the site explaining how I have more computers than friends: http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/ If we could get some clarification from CCP about whether using programs like Synergy that merely allow you to use a single mouse among multiple computers in the same way someone uses a single mouse when they have multiple displays that would definitely open the door to a lot more multiboxers... and multiboxers are generally very fun to pewpew. Just ask the guys that blew up my entire rokh mining fleet a week ago as I attempted my 0.0 escape. Edit: Whether or not using a wooden dowel across some keypads is allowed is not up for debate IMO. The use of prosthetics, pirate hooks, wooden dowels or your face for pressing buttons is simply not breaking any rules. The question is whether or not multiboxers should be allowed to use common multiboxing software explicity allowed in almost all other major MMO's. I saw that setup of yours earlier. If you are breaking the EULA or not is open to debate, but when I saw 11 Ravens and 1 Drake, all with "Zhek [something]" in the name appearing on my Overview (that was in Dodixie if I remember correctly), it was pretty clear to me that something is not normal with the way you play. 12 accounts is 12 x $14.95 or EUR 14.95 (or whatever the subscription is for one month from where you are), that alone makes the entire endeavour quite expensive - and for what? 11 Ravens ganking Obelisks going out of trade hubs? To my mind that is quite a clear violation of the EULA... but I think I'll let CCP decide on this one. Yes, your setup is impressive. But then again... why go through all of this trouble? I have one character and I think I have more fun than you playing EVE - also less stress managing all accounts. And ships. And ISK. And CONCORD appearences. And fits. And... well - you get the picture. Bottom line - your epeen setup is just amusing. Also the money you're willing to spend (you might also be using PLEXes for all accounts, I don't know).
Jaime Wulf	Posted - 2010.04.12 16:18:00 - [248] Originally by: Vaal Erit It's a low tech macro, but still a macro. I applaud your creativity and engineering skills but am glad that CCP bans your accounts. We got enough problems with alts and people 2-3 boxing and the like, we don't need this. Also, they only ban macro users for 3 days? Well I can see why we are still flooded with macros to this day. 1: I don't believe they consider the Multi-Boxing as a Macro per say so maybe that's why the 3 day suspension... 2: you don't like that ppl have alts and such and that's ur business but consider this, if everyone who had an alt dropped the seperate accounts in order to fit into ur idea of what this/every game should be then EVE would have probably died on the vine along time ago tbh... Many of us like my Alts who Mine need dedicted haulers and such and frankly I doubt enough ppl in the world would find it fulfilling to do nothing in a game other than haul stuff all the time... 3: I agree in part that maybe that many accts is too much but on the other hand, WE know NOTHING about this person and should not stand in judgement of how they are doing things and why... For all we know this person is independantly wealthy and possibly HandiCapped and really doesnt have many options in that sense... Then again that may not be the case either...
Lee Gordon Gallente Frog Morton Industries Anuran Origin	Posted - 2010.04.12 18:19:00 - [249] Edited by: Lee Gordon on 12/04/2010 18:22:05 Quote: The following 2 EULA articles are considered to apply to this: "You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played." "You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game." More specifically regarding your questions: 1: We do not allow this I'm afraid. {Original question "Do you allow Hardware multi-boxing?"} 2: We also do not allow this. {Original question "Do you allow Software multi-boxing?"} 3 and 4, are not possible due to multi-boxing not being allowed. {Original questions "practice for distinguishing multi-boxing from botting" and "do you have any fair play clauses".} This was called out already as bad information. My follow-up question pointed out the "Power of 2" program as a counter and I received the following : Quote: You are welcome to use multiple accounts at the same time, no matter how many accounts you are using. What we understood you were asking with regards to multiboxing, was controlling all of those account with a single keystroke program or mouse click copy program. To make it more clear: You may use as many accounts as you wish at the same time, however you may not use a program to control more then 1 account at the same time with the same keystrokes/mouse, you will need to actually switch between the windows to control them. This is from the post below: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=19768
Zhek Kromtor	Posted - 2010.04.12 19:02:00 - [250] Lee Gordon, that's the GM response that I was referring to when I stated on my site that "...then I come to realize after complaining to other multiboxers on dual-boxing.com that CCP may not even allow software multiboxing..." According to Cambarus several posts back, (Senior?) GM Lelouch has since overruled that seemingly decided-as-he-perused-the-EULA decision. The mere fact that CCP has no interest in commenting in this thread, nor in banning me makes it clear that multiboxing - at least with dowels - is condoned. Responding to confirm that would only cause ragequits from the self-righteous single account protestors who clearly could not be part of a game that allows such impure behavior. http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/

Lee Gordon Gallente Frog Morton Industries Anuran Origin	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:11:00 - [251] "According to Cambarus several posts back, (Senior?) GM Lelouch has since overruled that seemingly decided-as-he-perused-the-EULA decision." Sorry must have missed that. But away the EULA need an update on these kind of things, with all the new hardware you can get and so on.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:38:00 - [252] Originally by: Zhek Kromtor The mere fact that CCP has no interest in commenting in this thread, nor in banning me makes it clear that multiboxing - at least with dowels - is condoned. A few possible things that are likely to be on-going in this situation: 1) Maybe they haven't said anything yet, and I highly doubt your way of playing EVE is "condoned". My guess you are yellow-flashy on their Overview. 2) They might have contacted you already on one or many email aliases you have provided to them, or possibly via the billing address you specified when you paid for the first time (if credit card was used). You however decided to ignore this and keep on playing - even opening a thread about the setup you currently claim to be EULA-approved. 3) I do believe CCP has been discussing this thread - but decided to see how this plays out amongst players before stepping in.
OVERBROW Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:41:00 - [253] Originally by: Zhek Kromtor ...After being erroneously 3-day banned for "macro use" while merely mining as a multiboxer (no macros or automation were being used... Here's the site explaining how I have more computers than friends: http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/ ...Edit: Whether or not using a wooden dowel across some keypads is allowed is not up for debate IMO. The use of prosthetics, pirate hooks, wooden dowels or your face for pressing buttons is simply not breaking any rules.... This guy is a ****ing hero. ----- mmopvp.blogspot.com -----
Pyrostasis Caldari Gang of Pain	Posted - 2010.04.12 22:53:00 - [254] Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Lee Gordon, that's the GM response that I was referring to when I stated on my site that "...then I come to realize after complaining to other multiboxers on dual-boxing.com that CCP may not even allow software multiboxing..." According to Cambarus several posts back, (Senior?) GM Lelouch has since overruled that seemingly decided-as-he-perused-the-EULA decision. The mere fact that CCP has no interest in commenting in this thread, nor in banning me makes it clear that multiboxing - at least with dowels - is condoned. Responding to confirm that would only cause ragequits from the self-righteous single account protestors who clearly could not be part of a game that allows such impure behavior. So Im confused...which is it? I have boxed other games previously, and really enjoyed it. I previously used innerspace and keyclone. However, when I moved to Eve after some research it seemed that CCP didnt allow any form of keyboard multicasters. Now from what I understand... Synergy (least the least time I used it) just let you use one mouse and keyboard to "switch" from comp to comp, but didnt allow multicasting. I would assume Synergy is legal. So... Zhek can you confirm what is and isnt allowed per the GM response that you got...
Magesto Caldari Radiant shield Radiant Force	Posted - 2010.04.12 23:34:00 - [255] i use 2 computers(desktop and a laptop on the desk right next to the monitor for the desktop) and 2 accts, and everything works wonderfully, 14 is just damned ridiculous *CHECK PLEASE!*
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.04.13 04:17:00 - [256] Originally by: Pyrostasis Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Lee Gordon, that's the GM response that I was referring to when I stated on my site that "...then I come to realize after complaining to other multiboxers on dual-boxing.com that CCP may not even allow software multiboxing..." According to Cambarus several posts back, (Senior?) GM Lelouch has since overruled that seemingly decided-as-he-perused-the-EULA decision. The mere fact that CCP has no interest in commenting in this thread, nor in banning me makes it clear that multiboxing - at least with dowels - is condoned. Responding to confirm that would only cause ragequits from the self-righteous single account protestors who clearly could not be part of a game that allows such impure behavior. So Im confused...which is it? I have boxed other games previously, and really enjoyed it. I previously used innerspace and keyclone. However, when I moved to Eve after some research it seemed that CCP didnt allow any form of keyboard multicasters. Now from what I understand... Synergy (least the least time I used it) just let you use one mouse and keyboard to "switch" from comp to comp, but didnt allow multicasting. I would assume Synergy is legal. So... Zhek can you confirm what is and isnt allowed per the GM response that you got... TBH your best bet is to make a petition yourself, and make sure you get an answer from a senior GM. If he says go for it (which he should, I'm like 95% sure I've read threads on the forums about stuff like this before with GMs saying it was allowed) then you're in the clear. Just don't delete the petition and if any other GMs bother you about it you can laugh in their faces :P I gotta say though, I do find it amusing that people are STILL arguing about the EULA. CCP has the right to terminate your account for any (or no) reason. When dealing with ANY grey area of the EULA it's usually best to get a clear senior GM response rather than speculating on the forums. I now know that I'm allowed to multibox using software, and that's good enough for me.
Cooolllll	Posted - 2010.04.13 05:34:00 - [257] I had a question on your setup. How do you deal with heating issues? Do you somehow funnel that exhaust to heat your house?
Kewso	Posted - 2010.04.13 07:40:00 - [258] All I know is I use a nostromo, a logitech g15, and synergy for couple years. Cool thing is each of my pc's has it's own real world ip since I don't use NAT. I get 8 ip subnet from my ISP for a business account.
Empress Shai	Posted - 2010.04.13 12:24:00 - [259] I have a quad core with only 4 GB of Ram, and use my multiple clients windowed, and in the lowest possible "optimized" setting (performance, shadows off, etc). I can listen to a podcast or EVE-Radio without having to lag hardly at all (ISP is another story). It is cheaper than the OPs origonal posting. Though I am trying to figure a launcher that allows for the client to be maximized to 2 screens with 2 clients up, on the same PC. The GMs can track your clicks or something to see it isn't a bot, right? I thought I saw someone ^^ state that it was. I ask for clarification from your guys opinions is all.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.13 12:27:00 - [260] Originally by: Empress Shai I have a quad core with only 4 GB of Ram, and use my multiple clients windowed, and in the lowest possible "optimized" setting (performance, shadows off, etc). I can listen to a podcast or EVE-Radio without having to lag hardly at all (ISP is another story). It is cheaper than the OPs origonal posting. Though I am trying to figure a launcher that allows for the client to be maximized to 2 screens with 2 clients up, on the same PC. The GMs can track your clicks or something to see it isn't a bot, right? I thought I saw someone ^^ state that it was. I ask for clarification from your guys opinions is all. Look for EVE Windowed Helper - it takes away the window decoration when playing in windowed mode. That way you can maximize a client, then say "Set Clients" with the tool, and it will remove the window border. You can then alt-tab between them. ----

Shira'v'Dhraal	Posted - 2010.04.13 13:01:00 - [261] That's a lot of efforts and money to avoid socialization. Joke aside, if you like playing this way, more power to you. Not my cup of tea but this kind of synchronized mini-fleet must be interesting to watch.
Zavulon Sukkot Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.04.13 17:07:00 - [262] I approve of the tears in this thread. Eve really has no 'normal' game play. Sure, theres the hisec tour guide of missions, lowsec pirates, 0.0 metagamers, market manipulators, scammers, and then there are those who figure out something different. Those who are looking for a mediated experience where everyone plays the same game probably need to take a look at Sanrio Town. Worry about creative players like Zhek after you worry about seeing the same groups of 'characters' mining 23/6 in hisec belts and 24/7 auto-warping alleged resource collectors in the ass-back end of nullsec. NATI.
Semkhet Dark Tornado Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.04.13 18:49:00 - [263] LOL... The amount of moronic replies in this thread is appalling. Leave this guy in peace. The fact that he throws enough resources for this kind of setup should ring a bell... CCP knows about this, it's their game, so if he's still playing nowadays, here goes your so much anticipated CCP stance. Besides, is there any genius able to explain why would CCP allow any single player to maintain a dozen accounts only to later on denying the means to play with'em ? Wake up and smell the coffee: it's a business, plain and simple.
Empress Shai	Posted - 2010.04.13 18:56:00 - [264] Originally by: Semkhet Wake up and smell the coffee: it's a business, plain and simple. Agreed, I am not knocking anything, just saying they likely don't care due to it makes them money, in one form or another.
akkim86	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:43:00 - [265] How'd you get the monitors set up like that (resolution/split screen)?
cBOLTSON Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.04.19 18:09:00 - [266] now that is some funny ass ****!! Credit to the guy for making that whole setup himself. How is he cheating?? lmao! He is severly limiting himself in how technical he can be. I guarentee theres no way he can fly an interceptor with any effeciency like that. Give the guy a break, yea it is OTT and then some, but its good human inginuity (spelling?) So whats the limit? Having a 2nd account is also cheating then? How about if you were to control a mouse and keyboard with your feet as well as your primary mouse and keyboard with your hands? Would you be punished for being crazy dexterous with your feet? How about if he had all computers lined up and ran through the room doing the actions one by one... There is no SPECIFIC rule, and I cant see why people are getting angry.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.19 19:08:00 - [267] Originally by: cBOLTSON How is he cheating?? lmao! He is severly limiting himself in how technical he can be. I guarentee theres no way he can fly an interceptor with any effeciency like that. Maybe not an interceptor, but he did use 12 Ravens plus 1 Drake in Dodi, most likely to gank people. ---- Store \| Apply
Elldranga	Posted - 2010.04.19 21:03:00 - [268] Originally by: Empress Shai I have a quad core with only 4 GB of Ram, and use my multiple clients windowed, and in the lowest possible "optimized" setting (performance, shadows off, etc). I can listen to a podcast or EVE-Radio without having to lag hardly at all (ISP is another story). It is cheaper than the OPs origonal posting. Though I am trying to figure a launcher that allows for the client to be maximized to 2 screens with 2 clients up, on the same PC. The GMs can track your clicks or something to see it isn't a bot, right? I thought I saw someone ^^ state that it was. I ask for clarification from your guys opinions is all. I wouldn't be suprised if CCP can track you by your clicks. I know I was mining at max efficiency for a period of time.... which of course means the same time periods between orders to warp/mine/etc when suddenly out of the blue, I'm somewhere else, with no rocks available to mine, near a planet. No warp, no nothing. Just BAM I'm there. I've always suspected it was a silent test, to see if my system continued to attempt to mine, or do the logical thing if there's someone actually at the computer... warp back to the belt.
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.04.19 21:55:00 - [269] I too, would love to know how you do your split screen.
Gawdisa	Posted - 2010.04.20 02:06:00 - [270] Edited by: Gawdisa on 20/04/2010 02:08:05 Split screen just looks like the windows are over lapped with the right window hanging off the viewable area. You aren't able to see the actual area of the screen where the ships reside, covered by the station box. I'm assuming the right hand windows are tagged to always remain on top. I gotta say it's an awesome setup. Just imagine the fap sessions. All those different screens. Mmmm. /edit cause i couldn't say **** =)



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