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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.27 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit It's a low tech macro, but still a macro. I applaud your creativity and engineering skills but am glad that CCP bans your accounts. We got enough problems with alts and people 2-3 boxing and the like, we don't need this.
Also, they only ban macro users for 3 days? Well I can see why we are still flooded with macros to this day.
Its certainly not a macro, as it only provides one input to each box. You have to sign the EULA for EACH client/account. It is only entering one command to each client and is therefore not a macro on any level. This is clearly a signature. |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.27 21:32:00 -
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I raise the question: how long does it take to sign into all the accounts? are they all setup to use the same password.. something on the numpad? hmm?
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits Massive Intergalactic Love Klub
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Posted - 2010.03.27 22:34:00 -
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Now... Usually i don't really care how people spend their time but... i gotta say...
GET A LIFE DUDE!!!  ________________________________________________
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.27 23:44:00 -
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Multiple monitors definatly increases productivity. I use 2/3 monitors when I'm doing design work and they also come in handy if I want to run my 2 accounts + watch a movie... but this is a little bit silly :)
Dust514 | Podlogs | Pluggit |

Spurty
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.27 23:50:00 -
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gotta salute you there.
Very inventive.
So, you pay for all of your game time this way?
Do you actually have time to 'play' the actual game or is all your time spent making isk to buy the PLEXs ?
Can't see any problem with this myself.
Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:00:00 -
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I'll bet that every single person supporting this guy is actually one of the 42 characters he is capable of using.
OP: You fail in more ways than you have accounts.
Originally by: Mara Rinn How? He's not doing anything that 14 players side by side couldn't do too. He's not acquiring items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status faster than 14 players side by side.
He's doing ordinary game play on 14 computers side by side.
The point is, he isn't fourteen people, why the hell should he be able to benefit as if he were?
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Zhek Kromtor
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 28/03/2010 00:16:30
Originally by: AdmiralJohn I'll bet that every single person supporting this guy is actually one of the 42 characters he is capable of using.
OP: You fail in more ways than you have accounts.
The point is, he isn't fourteen people, why the hell should he be able to benefit as if he were?
Because if I'm not allowed to play 14 then nobody should be allowed to play 2, unless CCP wants to come up with an arbitrary maximum number of accounts that one person can play.
And while we're on the subject of numbers, if you and your 13 space buddies really get beat by someone using wooden dowels to control 14 ships it is abundantly clear who fails in the most ways.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:13:00 -
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I would say the pics are just for show if a GM asks and the mouse/key cloning apps still are used as before.
After all it is no way in hell that the mouse assembly would work, even if two hands are used to move it.
Godly scientist/builder/reverse engineer for sale |

AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Because if I'm not allowed to play 14 then nobody should be allowed to play 2, unless CCP wants to come up with an arbitrary maximum number of accounts that one person can play.
I agree. I have this one lonely account. Alts make the game exponentially harder for casual gamers who don't have that kind of money or time to throw around.
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Kultur Klaus
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:26:00 -
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DUDE, SERIOUSLY
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Ivas Tiffy
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 27/03/2010 21:10:54 After being erroneously 3-day banned for "macro use" while merely mining as a multiboxer (no macros or automation were being used - just Synergy a program that lets you share 1 mouse over multiple computers) I decided to make a site to demonstrate how I have adapted my technique of multiboxing to definitely not break any rules of the EULA. I no longer use Synergy or even mine. I can understand how seeing 12 ospreys mining would cause players and GM's to assume the worst. Now I'm training exploration to hopefully do some complexes.
Here's the site explaining how I have more computers than friends: http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/
If we could get some clarification from CCP about whether using programs like Synergy that merely allow you to use a single mouse among multiple computers in the same way someone uses a single mouse when they have multiple displays that would definitely open the door to a lot more multiboxers... and multiboxers are generally very fun to pewpew. Just ask the guys that blew up my entire rokh mining fleet a week ago as I attempted my 0.0 escape.
Edit: Whether or not using a wooden dowel across some keypads is allowed is not up for debate IMO. The use of prosthetics, pirate hooks, wooden dowels or your face for pressing buttons is simply not breaking any rules. The question is whether or not multiboxers should be allowed to use common multiboxing software explicity allowed in almost all other major MMO's.
IDIOTS like you should be perma banned... for using a external programe to get a unfair advantage that cannot be done via normal means IE: exploit.
i hope you get perma removed!
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EntroX
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Just ask the guys that blew up my entire rokh mining fleet a week ago as I attempted my 0.0 escape.
Just passing by to confirm that i did enjoy that!
/trox
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Max Hardcase on 28/03/2010 00:41:01 Somehow this reminds of the cliched mastermind villain of comic book lore who sits behinds the scenes plotting. Something like this : http://www.heroes-inc.net/?p=1038
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Ivas Tiffy
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.28 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 28/03/2010 00:16:30
Originally by: AdmiralJohn I'll bet that every single person supporting this guy is actually one of the 42 characters he is capable of using.
OP: You fail in more ways than you have accounts.
The point is, he isn't fourteen people, why the hell should he be able to benefit as if he were?
Because if I'm not allowed to play 14 then nobody should be allowed to play 2, unless CCP wants to come up with an arbitrary maximum number of accounts that one person can play.
And while we're on the subject of numbers, if you and your 13 space buddies really get beat by someone using wooden dowels to control 14 ships it is abundantly clear who fails in the most ways.
didnt you just recently loose a bunch of ships in delve? AGAIN!
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Gjs312
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.03.28 01:02:00 -
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This is completely hilarious and I hope they let you keep it.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 01:17:00 -
[76]
Wow...
I gotta say though, if I had the money then I would probably be the same. Hope they don't ban you again for this as I don't see a problem with it.
Kirra Liu / Lord Windu |

Ralara
Caldari Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ivas Tiffy Edited by: Ivas Tiffy on 28/03/2010 00:46:15
Originally by: Zhek Kromtor Edited by: Zhek Kromtor on 27/03/2010 21:10:54 After being erroneously 3-day banned for "macro use" while merely mining as a multiboxer (no macros or automation were being used - just Synergy a program that lets you share 1 mouse over multiple computers) I decided to make a site to demonstrate how I have adapted my technique of multiboxing to definitely not break any rules of the EULA. I no longer use Synergy or even mine. I can understand how seeing 12 ospreys mining would cause players and GM's to assume the worst. Now I'm training exploration to hopefully do some complexes.
Here's the site explaining how I have more computers than friends: http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/
If we could get some clarification from CCP about whether using programs like Synergy that merely allow you to use a single mouse among multiple computers in the same way someone uses a single mouse when they have multiple displays that would definitely open the door to a lot more multiboxers... and multiboxers are generally very fun to pewpew. Just ask the guys that blew up my entire rokh mining fleet a week ago as I attempted my 0.0 escape.
Edit: Whether or not using a wooden dowel across some keypads is allowed is not up for debate IMO. The use of prosthetics, pirate hooks, wooden dowels or your face for pressing buttons is simply not breaking any rules. The question is whether or not multiboxers should be allowed to use common multiboxing software explicity allowed in almost all other major MMO's.
IDIOTS like you should be perma banned... for using a external programe to get a unfair advantage that cannot be done via normal means IE: exploit.
i hope you get perma removed!
just so you know.. when you brag to corp/alliance mates about using synergy or similar programmes... it eventually gets around what you do. and you DO get petitioned..
Then I guess the 20% or so of us that use G15/19 keyboards should also be banned. --
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SXYGeeK
Gallente do you Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.03.28 02:07:00 -
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Firstly, Multiboxing or playing multiple charecters at once is not against the EULA, CCP even encourages it with frequent programs to get additional accounts up.
So, playing with 2 charecters or even 12 charecters is not breaking any rules. Each charecter is not going to gather resources faster or play any better than any other charecter. In fact quite the opposite, there is a diminishing return, It is just not possible to simultaneously control multiple accounts as good as folks that are controling just one.
In most cases multiboxing is done with clients in windowed mode on a single PC or multiple PC's with multiple keyboards and mice. the only thing that synergy does is allow you to use one keyboard an mouse accorss multiple computers as if they where just mutiple displays on the same computer. it does not replicate clicks or movements or keystrokes. It is no different than running multiple clients windowed on a single multimonitor PC. essentialy it does not allow you to play your multiple clients any faster than someone with a nice 6 monitor PC that can run 10 copies of eve at a high framerate. (Intel i7 and Nvidia 260 with Matrox triple head) thus it is not a violation of the EULA. -We So SeXy |

Ravelin Eb
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
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Posted - 2010.03.28 02:08:00 -
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This is all kinds of awesome. _________________________________
Boo hoo. Cry some more. |

Langoss
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Posted - 2010.03.28 02:20:00 -
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 02:25:00 -
[81]
So should hardware KVM switches be banned also? 
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Seros Kal
0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.03.28 02:41:00 -
[82]
Can you field 10+ black ops by yourself ? |

Bo Bojangles
The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.28 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: vulnevia Just you wait untill this guy buys 14 battleships and starts to gatecamp somewhere...
Oh he's pvp'd with it. I encountered Zhek's nasty little setup last July. Zhek's naming convention also makes it necessary for an opposing FC to broadcast his ships rather than call out the targets as per usual.
Originally by: Zhek Kromtor And while we're on the subject of numbers, if you and your 13 space buddies really get beat by someone using wooden dowels to control 14 ships it is abundantly clear who fails in the most ways.
I didn't see any dowels. What I saw was was your Ravens decloak, drop drones, target and fire in a unison that cannot be equated in a normal fleet orchestrated by a single target caller communicating to individual pilots.
Though as I recall there was a slight variation in the beginning of the targeting sequence between the ships,.. have you tried maple?
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.28 05:35:00 -
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1) Who needs 14 accounts? 2) Especially simultaneously 3) You deserved your ban.
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Sourpsalm
Gallente Pubs 'n Clubs
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:53:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Zhek Kromtor I have more computers than friends
On the next episode of "Intervention".
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Yoyort
Davy Jones Locker Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Yoyort on 28/03/2010 08:23:41 May wanna reword some posts you write , as money can be misunderstood quite easily. IGC or isk is better lol.
Btw if you come from WOW, think CCP didnt wanna spread the illness.
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=29236
"Ya I'm bored of wow... this new season started and i got a taste of the resilience buff and didnt like it.
Eve with synchronized mouseclicks is so much fun though. Epic volleys of missiles... I had to control my 12 guys 6 at a time since there's 2 on each computer. I dont know how the hell im going to make money if i get banned everytime i mine though. I was planning on hooking up with my old goonfleet buddies after i got back on my feet for some more space destruction but i literally was playing for 2-3 days before i got banned. Just ridiculous... I guess if enough idiots report you because they dont understand then sooner or later an ignorant GM will come along and ruin all your hard work."
Posted by Kromtor on linked forum.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.28 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Noun Verber 1) Who needs 14 accounts? 2) Especially simultaneously 3) You deserved your ban.
Who needs 2 accounts?
There is no reason at all why 14 accounts wouldnt be allowed when 2 accounts are allowed (coming from someone with one account with one char).
There is no reason at all why synergy wouldnt be allowed when g15 macros are allowed.
Untill those things changes, he isnt doing anything wrong.
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Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
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Posted - 2010.03.28 09:03:00 -
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That setup is truly OTT and amazing :)
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Admrl Cain
Caldari Unbound Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.03.28 09:08:00 -
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OP needs professional help... quickly. I kinda feel sorry for him :( ----------------------------------------
Admiral Cain. Yep, that's right.. mmhmmm |

Darion Amador
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.03.28 09:14:00 -
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Dude, i gotta know, have you ever gotten laid? And in the unlikely hood you have, before or after you acquired 14 accounts? Do you not like the wonders of life? Is there some thing you'd like to talk about? I'm here for you to talk you through it, i got lots of tissue paper. Does RL make you sad? Do you avoid it because you don't feel like you belong in RL? Are you an alien? If so, what is the meaning of life? Or rather, what is the question to the answear?
Or are you a secret agent from CCCP trying to infiltrate the community and push them to purchase more account, can i take this as a sign that business is not booming? How many scalps do you have mounted on your wall? Do you use 70s glasses? There is so much i would like to know about you. Please give me your life story.
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