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Tangled
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Posted - 2010.03.31 11:35:00 -
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I'm looking at getting a new desktop setup and wondered if anyone has any suggestions for good graphics cards to use for EVE?
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Flauschig Katzchen
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Posted - 2010.03.31 11:46:00 -
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Radeon HD 5870
Good for running multiple monitors, and well, just good at rendering images and stuffs on said monitors. Pricey, but you are worth it...baby.
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Droning Ceo
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Posted - 2010.03.31 12:45:00 -
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The nvidia 8800 range will still run pretty much anything, and are probably cheap now. They've always been very good cards, for a very good price point.
like, mine still maxxes out brand new games no problem @ 1920x1200 (becoz HD sucks ass i went 1 step further ;)
If you consider playing a game that isn't eve i'd stay away from the ATI cards atm, simply because of the amount of problems they have with specific games taking ages to load (current issue: Bc2 ATI cards take 5-6 mins to load a map, nvidia 10 seconds)
Also "crossfire" what, i hate all this gamer talk in technology is pretty dire.
Whats wrong with Scalable Link Interface Ati? You presuming your customers wont understand what it means?
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Belysia
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Posted - 2010.03.31 12:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Droning Ceo
The nvidia 8800 range will still run pretty much anything, and are probably cheap now. They've always been very good cards, for a very good price point.
like, mine still maxxes out brand new games no problem @ 1920x1200 (becoz HD sucks ass i went 1 step further ;)
If you consider playing a game that isn't eve i'd stay away from the ATI cards atm, simply because of the amount of problems they have with specific games taking ages to load (current issue: Bc2 ATI cards take 5-6 mins to load a map, nvidia 10 seconds)
Also "crossfire" what, i hate all this gamer talk in technology is pretty dire.
Whats wrong with Scalable Link Interface Ati? You presuming your customers wont understand what it means?
I have a 4850 and I'm always one of the first to load.
Max out at that resolution? Doubtful..
To the op I would get an ATI 5000 series card because they are by far the best bang got your buck and have DirectX11 which NVIDIA cards do not have.
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Kallieah
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:04:00 -
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Brand loyalty is stupid and EVE runs very well on any modern non-integrated graphics card. I'd consider setting a realistic price point for yourself and purchasing a graphics card that meets that price point. Even some integrated cards handle EVE well enough. I get reasonable performance out of EVE on a Radeon 3200 and it's not fun, but playable on an Intel GMA950 in my Dell Latitude D620 notebook.
Obviously fleet battles and other such things will demand more so you may want to buy some extra headroom to grow and possibly play other games.
A Radeon 3k class board or better will be okay in most situations. A GeForce 9k series, even one of the lower end cards will do fine as well. Both will allow most or even all of the eye-candy to be enabled while still offering acceptable performance.
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Hot Fudge
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:08:00 -
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I sense a fanboy battle erupting in this thread, which in turn will get it locked. In before the fanboy induced lock. :D
To the OP: Just use Google, do some research. Not a good idea to ask which is best on a forum, lol. There are quite a few sites out there that give you hard facts from testing, and not just opinions. Use Google. :)
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SemiCharmed
Clans of the Sanctums
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:17:00 -
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I would advise avoiding Radeon cards and go for Nvidea.
The BFG GTX260 OC MAXCORE 55nm 896MB (D) Dual DVI PhysX and Cuda ready PCI-E Graphics Card is quite a popular one for the casual gamer and will have no trouble at all playing EvE and the latest games out there.
XFX GTX285 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI PhysX and Cuda ready PCI-E Graphics Card is a very nice one and better than the one above, bit more expensive mind....
But i can give you names/links of gfx cards all day long but it depends how much you want to spend, and what motherboard etc you have, or are looking at getting. You can get the top of the line gfx card but said gfx card's performance can be stupidly dragged down by not having enough power and an inferior motherboard to name two things.
So be careful and look for compatibility!
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Belysia
To the op I would get an ATI 5000 series card because they are by far the best bang got your buck and have DirectX11 which NVIDIA cards do not have.
Also: quiet, cool, power-efficient and allows monitor spanning in windows 7. 5850 owner here, and no matter what I try I can't get it to heat up past 77C.
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:25:00 -
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dont get anything lower than an nvidia 8800 or radeon 3850, while they might work ok your FPS may drop below playable levels at larger resolutions.
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2010.03.31 13:42:00 -
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Radeon 5970, they work a treat.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar
Situation Grey
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:06:00 -
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EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX480
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: Belysia
To the op I would get an ATI 5000 series card because they are by far the best bang got your buck and have DirectX11 which NVIDIA cards do not have.
Also: quiet, cool, power-efficient and allows monitor spanning in windows 7. 5850 owner here, and no matter what I try I can't get it to heat up past 77C.
Same here, also no issues with BC2.
The ati 5xxx cards are all great cards. In low-mid segment it in general doesnt matter that much which brand you take (those saying you should stay away from ati are talking out of their ass). In the high segment you want ati, unless you have your own nuclear power station.
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B0X
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:26:00 -
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I've had cards from both makers, but had many more issues with ATi drivers.
On a gaming forum I'm apart of the main issue showing itself atm, is ATi driver issues with BFBC2.
The Radeon 5xxx series is a great graphics card, if ATi could get their act together with drivers, Nvidia would be screwed.
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Gerry Mack
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: KaarBaak
EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX480
Good performance yes but uses 250 watts and heats to around 95c according to tests. Oh and you mi8ght need to re mortgage as well.
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Kritinana
Minmatar
The New Mexican Connection
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Posted - 2010.03.31 15:47:00 -
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Not a big deal for eve. Some of the suggestions are rather uneccissary & won't do much more than cost you a lot of $$. Just set a budget and get whatever's the best that falls in line.
Currently gtx260's(216) or 280's now also, and 4890's are at a very nice price/performance ratio. Get 'em used and you can likely afford to put 2 or 3 of them in xfire/sli.
Very handy (at least w/ the ati ones) if you want to run more than two monitors off a single box.
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Zahira Wrath
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Droning Ceo
The nvidia 8800 range will still run pretty much anything, and are probably cheap now. They've always been very good cards, for a very good price point.
I'll second that. I have a very old Nvidia 8800 GTS 640meg, and it runs eve at 1680x1050 with max everything perfectly fine. Eve does not use a lot of graphics horse power.
I'd say pick up a 8800 GT for a hundred dollars or so and be happy you saved alot of money.
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MaxxOmega
Caldari
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:20:00 -
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Personally I'd forgo a Graphics Card all together. This way you are never obsolete and you can just print a screen shot of what ever ship you want to fly at the time and tape it to your monitor...
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Belysia
I have a 4850 and I'm always one of the first to load.
I also have the 4850 and am very pleased with it. It's got just the right amount of power for my needs, although it's quite huge. My case has the CPU on the bottom, so I've some heat concerns, but it's held of fairly well and I've no complaints.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2010.03.31 16:31:00 -
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Best bang for your buck at the moment according to Tom's Hardware is the ATI Radeon HD 4670. I bought one on their recommendation for 60 quid I think, runs eve perfectly at 1680x1050 all gfx on. I haven't tried to dualbox however... I'm gonna grab myself a 5850 soon I reckon :D
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Genya Arikaido
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:03:00 -
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I have 2x GeForce GTX 285s. Not terribly expensive, as it isn't bleeding edge, but close enough to make no difference, except in price savings.
Runs EVE at 5760x1080 with all settings on High at about 80FPS over 3 screens with a 4th screen overtop the center panel for my desktop.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Zeba
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Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:04:00 -
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If you are interested in incarna and don't mind paying a little extra for proven driver stability then go with nvidia as all the shiney that will be used in incarna is based off the apex tech which ati does not and probably will never support. If you are budget minded and don't mind each driver release fixing one issue to only bring on two more then go with ati. Performance wise they are all on the same page as most people play with vsync anyways so its always capped at 60fps which any modern card ati or nvidia can do with all the settings on ultramegazomg high.
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Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:21:00 -
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The nVidia 470 and 480 cards just came out (newegg still has them for pre-order).
Currently I have 2 GTS 250 cards that I'll probably keep for a while, but in 3 - 6 months I may break down and get 2 GTX 480 cards (currently buying both for SLI will run you about $750). But they have the new nVidia 3d surround, CUDA, PhysX, and DirectX 11.
It really depends on who you prefer though, ATI or nVidia. nVidia has always been better in the long run, in my opinion.
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brakespear
Minmatar
Snowman Inc
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Posted - 2010.03.31 18:33:00 -
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Sapphire HD5670 here, nice, cheap, small, quiet card with no issues as yet - have used ATI cards for ages and only once had problems with drivers (although that might just be my choice of games  )
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.31 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
If you are interested in incarna and don't mind paying a little extra for proven driver stability then go with nvidia as all the shiney that will be used in incarna is based off the apex tech which ati does not and probably will never support. If you are budget minded and don't mind each driver release fixing one issue to only bring on two more then go with ati. Performance wise they are all on the same page as most people play with vsync anyways so its always capped at 60fps which any modern card ati or nvidia can do with all the settings on ultramegazomg high.
If you are interested in the future you take ati, since they got good DX11 cards for reasonably price, contrary to nvidia who's cards need a personal nuclear power station.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.31 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Zeba
If you are interested in incarna and don't mind paying a little extra for proven driver stability then go with nvidia as all the shiney that will be used in incarna is based off the apex tech which ati does not and probably will never support. If you are budget minded and don't mind each driver release fixing one issue to only bring on two more then go with ati. Performance wise they are all on the same page as most people play with vsync anyways so its always capped at 60fps which any modern card ati or nvidia can do with all the settings on ultramegazomg high.
If you are interested in the future you take ati, since they got good DX11 cards for reasonably price, contrary to nvidia who's cards need a personal nuclear power station.
And a dedicated aircondition unit. 
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Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.31 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gerry Mack
Originally by: KaarBaak
EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX480
Good performance yes but uses 250 watts and heats to around 95c according to tests. Oh and you mi8ght need to re mortgage as well.
My lower-tech system:
Video cards run around 60 degC with one EVE client, and 70 degC with three clients (max settings). CPU is nearly always around 45 degC, as it is mostly idle (70 degC when pegged with Prime95). Video card fans make the most noise (40% speed).
Interval immediate: 300 FPS with one client, 75 FPS with three clients (max settings)
* 2x EVGA GTX 285 Classified (1 GB) in SLI mode
* 2x Dell U2410 24-inch IPS monitors (using HDMI, but they have every imaginable interface)
* Corsair HX1000W powersupply (It is actually two complete 500 Watt power supplies on one board)
* Aero-Cool BX-500 case (lots of ventilation)
* 7x Silenx iXtrema Pro 120mm FDB fans 800RPM 38CFM 7DBA (silent)
* EVGA X58 Classified motherboard
* 12 GB DDR3 OCZ PC3-16000 Gold (running 1600 MHz 8-8-8-24 1T)
* Intel i7-975 EE 3.3 GHz (running at 133x31 = 4.13 GHz)
* Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 Rev C. (push-pull bottom-top orientation)
* 2x Thermalright Stealth Silent 120mm FDB 1600RPM 63.7CFM 28BA (for CPU)
* 2x Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 1TB SATA2
* Samsung SH-S223L/BEBS 22X SATA Black DVD Writer Lightscribe
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Jarnis McPieksu
Insidious Existence
En Garde
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Posted - 2010.03.31 19:03:00 -
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Forget GeForce 8800s. They are obsolete and not worth it unless you get one absolutely dirt cheap.
Today, your realistic options are;
a very cheap "last on the shelf" GeForce 9800GTX or Geforce GTS 250 (a more recent model of 8800 series - both are the same card, GTS250 just has a more recent sticker to fake that it's a newer model)
a very cheap "last on the shelf" ATI Radeon HD 4890
Only buy one of these if you can find one at around $100-$130. If not...
ATI Radeon HD 5770 - cheapest proper gaming card out there - anything cheaper than this or the two older models mentioned above = no good for gaming, avoid.
ATI Radeon HD 5850 - best bang for your buck. Period.
ATI Radeon HD 5870 - best sanely priced card.
And, in theory, in a few weeks, you can add GeForce GTX 480 as the absolute top-of-the-line, but the price is pretty harsh and availability may be tight.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.31 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Zeba
If you are interested in incarna and don't mind paying a little extra for proven driver stability then go with nvidia as all the shiney that will be used in incarna is based off the apex tech which ati does not and probably will never support. If you are budget minded and don't mind each driver release fixing one issue to only bring on two more then go with ati. Performance wise they are all on the same page as most people play with vsync anyways so its always capped at 60fps which any modern card ati or nvidia can do with all the settings on ultramegazomg high.
If you are interested in the future you take ati, since they got good DX11 cards for reasonably price, contrary to nvidia who's cards need a personal nuclear power station.
And a dedicated aircondition unit.
Luckily I have air conditioning in my home and an 800 watt psu so I'm set!(or will have as the last one burst into flames taking out my poor computer in the process.) Bonus is that in winter I can shut off the vent and still have a comfy warm room! \o/ Also yes ati have dx11 cards but where are the dx11 games? D-:
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Posted - 2010.03.31 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jarnis McPieksu
ATI Radeon HD 5770 - cheapest proper gaming card out there - anything cheaper than this or the two older models mentioned above = no good for gaming, avoid.
I use one of these, very happy with this card.
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Xovak
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.31 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Xovak on 31/03/2010 19:19:46
Edited by: Xovak on 31/03/2010 19:19:13
If you're looking for a decently priced, mid-range ATI card, the MSI R5770 is a great choice. Overclocks like a beast and has an awesome price/performance ratio.
Alternatively the MSI N250GTS has about the same quality if you prefer NVIDIA over ATI.
If you're looking to splurge and make your new desktop completely future-proof, I suggest the SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR.
On a side note, if you want to make your new desktop future-proof for the next 10 years, the ASUS P6X58D Premium Motherboard is absolutely kick-ass if you plan on going with an i7.
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