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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:34:00 -
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You know its amazing to me how ppl complain about the cargo containers, yet the same ones will place 12 drones around a stargate and camp it. Load lag is load lag.
Then they cant comprehend signal boosting and 1 second taget locks, with strong weapons. ROF of 2 seconds and 1 second lock = You get hit 4 times in the first 10 seconds.
You lock 6 seconds ROF of 5 seconds = You shoot back 1 time in 11 seconds. Bingo! you get hit with 4x the damage.
Solution?
Complain about something else.
Just my two cents,
BTW -
BOT mining is outside the game rules imo, unless its a feature enabled that all could take advantage of.
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
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Korban Dallas
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:42:00 -
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I don't get what the big deal is..
Sure, distributing a program that intentionally harms a users game play or pc should be a bannable offence.
But what's the big deal about macro mining low yield ores?
I can see how ccp would be upset about a program directly interfering with the code of their client, but beyond that I can't see why this is such a hub bub.. There's no difference between a person sitting there and doing it manually, right?
And if the question is whether it is kosher to do it while they arn't sitting there staring at it, what if they are mining remotely from work? Is that a 'cheat' or an 'exploit' too?
Am I cheating or exploiting when I read a post on the forum that tells me a certain type of rat or roid is in a certain system, thus saving myself an inordinate amount of exploration time?
Seems like alot of hub bub, and that a clear definition of what the real problem is needs to be defined.
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:56:00 -
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Ok one thing I would like to know is do these programs actually exist (as in arnt trojans or at least dont apear to be and do work).
I understand that there is the issue of if macroing should be allowed bit as is often the case its easyer to allow macroing but not afk macroing. For those of us that play UO using uoassist will know what I mean.
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.06.26 18:04:00 -
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I have a better idea, randomly drop newbie sectors from 1.0 to .4 so i can fly through and kill afk miners!
Pod ya later..
Ywev
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.06.26 18:07:00 -
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thats almost what they did on UO.. GMs would pop up and try talking to you. If you didnt reaply within a certain amount of time and it was clear you were macroing afk they kicked your ass :)
"Death Before Dishonor" |
Tyrellius
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Posted - 2003.06.26 18:18:00 -
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Answer to mr. Zap:
http://www.terrajen-foundation.com/eve/combat.jpg
he he:) not on purpose:)
Edited by: Tyrellius on 26/06/2003 18:19:07
"Nothing is worth doing except that which the world says it's impossible..." |
Worrlock
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Posted - 2003.06.26 18:50:00 -
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How about if all the dropped NPC loot were to go into the floatillas??
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Shivash
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Posted - 2003.06.26 21:36:00 -
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@Pann - fair response although please can you word announcements like the recent warning rather more sternly. It appears from your post you agree with me that these people should be banned... However the ingame news item just warns about potential trojans. It implies you can use them quite happily just be carefull. If I read your reply here correctly in face users face the possibility of bans. Please put such an announcement of that sort in. I am not looking for a list of people being banned. Just a warning that using such tools will result in one.. if caught.
@those who don't see the problem. It's two fold, in an autominer you generate isk at an accelerated rate. Plus the theft of account details with trojan horses and keyloggers creates more work for the support staff. Whilst their response will be rightly 'tough' they will still have to deal with the e:mails they get.
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Wil Rufus
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Posted - 2003.06.27 01:24:00 -
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lol Never thought I'd see the day that I'd be agreeing with pirate players.
I've stated in other threads that I don't like a lot about PC pirates, their style of play and their attitude towards other players.
But the difference between them and exploiters is that what ever they do in the game is open for anybody to do. For example the cargo lag issue. It's not nice, nobody but the pirates like it, but at worst it's only unsporting play. Anybody in Eve can do it, there's nothing to stop a bunch of noob players even from doing it in the hope of catching out a pirate player passing through a system.
But once players start using third party software to help them make money, that in my book is just out and out cheating. It gaves you an advantage that not everybody else has access to.
The use of third pary 'macro' type software is the one thing that I hope that CCP jumps on hard and fast.
mOo I don't have to like in game, but they haven't done anything that anybody else could do if they set their mind to it. Somebody who cheats, no matter how much I like them should be removed from the game. Full stop.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.27 01:28:00 -
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"I have a better idea, randomly drop newbie sectors from 1.0 to .4 so i can fly through and kill afk miners!"
Lol, this is one of the funniest things I ever read.
I'm on the floor, help me up!
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Pyroe
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Posted - 2003.06.27 01:52:00 -
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Riffler
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Posted - 2003.06.27 12:13:00 -
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The best way to stop 3rd party program use would be to issue warnings over trojans, then clean out the account of anyone found to be using one - exactly as though it had been a trojan.
People would be too scared to use them.
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