Infidel 1 & 2 in the "Chapter 1" are the same kill. Might want to edit for full bragging.

That is rather sad. If I had just lost a Hulk, I would at least fit a tank next time...

Good luck with jihad when they buff barges EHP to battleship level.

you won't be able to do it much longer anyways from what's been shown with the new battleship tanks on most mining barges.

In celebration of the 4th of July, Jihad Squad's fleet of glorious martyr Catalysts descended upon infidel miners in Sinq L. in an effort to finally rid the region of bots and terrible carebears alike. We also hoped to finally receive our 72 virgins.

One set of mindless fools we came about were two completely untanked Hulks, mining within 1km of eachother. They were quickly dispatched in hilarious fashion as can be seen here:

(right click link, open in new tab)
Infidel 1
Infidel 2

Believing that painting the asteroids with the blood of those who defile them would serve as a good enough warning, we left the area for awhile. Several hours later, after drinking far too much alcohol (we aren't exactly very devout Jihadists) our scout wandered back to look for more targets to hit. And there they were...the two same people in brand new Hulks, 1km from eachother. This time they actually had shield hardeners on at least. Thinking that they might be using something far more sturdy, like faction Invuls, we added one more member of our Mujahideen to the fleet and killed them both...again.

Infidel 1
Infidel 2

1 Billion ISK worth of Hulks down the pooper from the same people in a single day. The idiocy was almost as staggering as the profit: 135mil worth of T2 salvage & loot. When miners have to ask why they are hated so much, one only has to look at their behavior.

Allahu Akbar

Praise George Clooney

OK,

I have a dumb question; IGÇÖm somewhat new to EVE and IGÇÖm just starting to PVP in the game. DonGÇÖt you get Concorded for killing someone in high sec unless they are in your Corp or youGÇÖre at war with them?

Rat

OK,

I have a dumb question; IGÇÖm somewhat new to EVE and IGÇÖm just starting to PVP in the game. DonGÇÖt you get Concorded for killing someone in high sec unless they are in your Corp or youGÇÖre at war with them?

Rat

Bots will use the Hulk. Players wanting to be bots will use the Retriever. Nobody will use the Skiff - the one with the battleship tank. These Jihadists won't get bored.

Your stories always bring me great joy.


Bless you sir, for doing the Lord's work.

That is rather sad. If I had just lost a Hulk, I would at least fit a tank next time...

i will never understand why miners fit those scanners.

Good luck with jihad when they buff barges EHP to battleship level.

I don't understand, why do ppl hate miners?

Why would people hate miners and not the angry, no-life, butthurt babies who take their frustration out on random ppl to make them feel good about themselves?

I would think it would be more natural to hate those who are so happy about the fact that they got to annoy someone, or pity them at least.

When miners have to ask why they are hated so much, one only has to look at their behavior.

thats what I thought but OP wrote that.



Their behavior shows that they were so un-phased by such OP efforts that they returned right back to mining, in the same spot even.

Its somewhat ironic that so many who ganks a miner or flips a can does it in the belief he is incurring rage and tears and all that when their beliefs are merely a projection of what their own reaction would be. People with no-life who are frustrated, angsty and butthurt at the world tend to do this kind of stuff because they want to share a little bit of what they are feeling all the time.


pretty amazing is the tard logic these kids come up with to justify their actions. Like scammers trying to distance themselves from their actions by claiming their victims are inferior to them, and somehow deserve it.

I wasn't held much as a child, nor did my mother breast feed me. My father also refused to come to my football games and my sister gave me wet willys all the time. That must be it.

I supposed you'll be a little more phased when I come back and blow up 2bil worth of your Hulks in 1 day, and then follow you when you move systems and afk mine thinking that you've finally escaped the wrath of the Jihad Squad.

The actual reason I gank you, over and over and over again is because carebears are turning Eve into a bunch of crap. You sit idly in space, not paying attention in terribly tanked ships while doing god knows what else on the side. In most cases, it's not likely you're actually playing Eve at all...rather you're just logged in and sucking ore from poor asteroids.

My job, as a true Jihadist, is to put fear into your heart. Fear is excitement, and Eve should be an exciting game! I want the word "relaxing" to be wiped out of any description of my dear game. It's certainly exciting for me (and profitable, too!) to watch your Hulk turn into a pretty blue-white explosion. I also want you to start using your brain. There are many ways you could have avoided getting your balls ganked off by me, but you choose day after day to do the same stupid crap and expect a different result. Consider us the fist of Darwin, and I'm coming to ram it way up your deep six and cull you mental midgets from the gene pool.

Plainly put: you are not safe anywhere in Eve, and I have proven that even as a -10 player that I can go anywhere I want and gank you, even if I have to follow you to 1.0 systems where your mining the most terrible ore. Keep afk mining. Soon you'll be having to mine in a Kestrel.

Oh, and btw Fabulous Rod, you just made it on the top of my list! Can't wait to salvage your wreck. Cya soon buddy :)

I'm not sure what is more pathetic, the obvious delusions you have or the fact that you take pleasure out of annoying random ppl. Part of the reason I play games like this to smash the butt-hurt-at-the-world kids like yourself. Griefer-wannabe tears are the best tears. IMO justice is infinitely more enjoyable than simply being a d-bag to anyone you can.

Oh, and btw Fabulous Rod, you just made it on the top of my list! Can't wait to salvage your wreck. Cya soon buddy :)

And you claim that I am the mad one.....rofl. Get a life, clown.

reading that wall of rage makes me feel better about my brain.

You've grabbed my attention as well.

It seems you're unfamiliar with the phrase "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

I'll be seeing you around.


<3 <3 <3

Bahahahaha!

Do you kids actually expect me to be afraid or something?

These clowns are a riot. I haven't heard threats like this since the 5th grade. Seemingly , just mentioning "a life" gets the freaky, angst-filled nerds all upset about what they don't have. It's no wonder video games are taken so seriously for these basement dweller types. For all the talk of tears, I bet people like OP are the first to cry when mommy pulls the plug.

I just wonder how much time you winners will dedicate to avenging the obvious butthurt I have caused you here today with just a few simple words of truth.

plz link the killmail!

Patience, my little babu. A killmail will be forthcoming, and Allah willing, George Clooney will be pleased.

Daemon Ceed > Just let me know when your cap gets back up so I can neut it again. Thx.
Blart Agrajag > jesus christ
Daemon Ceed > You can just call me Daemon.
Daemon Ceed > No need for the brevity.

TIL Daemon Ceed doesn't understand the meaning of brevity.

Oh dear, oh dear. My fragile little ego is utterly shattered by your insults and derision. What ever shall I do? Club some baby seals, or steal your nanna's purse for her social welfare stamps? I am so conflicted!

Honestly though, I do admit upon further review that my use of the word "brevity" was an erroneous attempt at applying a quote from "The Big Lembowski". Had it been properly used it would've said "I'm into the whole brevity thing," which falls appropriately into the definition: the quality of expressing much in few words. Thank you for gracing us with your lexical prowess. ROFL.

i will never understand why miners fit those scanners.

so, basically you tried to appear smart and clowned yourself instead. classic!

Clowned myself? Hardly. At least I'm man enough to point even such a insignificant mistake. I personally find it hilarious that you'd go so far to dig in my bio to try to attack me. Starting to think that such intense interest shows I'm really getting under your skin, which I find sublimely excellent!

carebears are turning Eve into a bunch of crap. You sit idly in space, not paying attention in terribly tanked ships while doing god knows what else on the side. In most cases, it's not likely you're actually playing Eve at all...rather you're just logged in and sucking ore from poor asteroids.

I love the kids who use words that nobody really uses in normal speech in an attempt to sound intelligent. Especially when they don't make any sense, lol.

Another contradiction. Your sig says, "The sandbox: play however the hell you want". However, in this thread you state that:



so what I am detecting here is that you try to play it with the coolguy sig but in this thread your jealous tears reveal the true butthurt you really feel about the fact that people are making craploads more isk than you while watching **** or netflix or doing w/e. Those stupid! stupid miners!

btw, its not like it took a lot of effort to click once on your name. Try harder, clown. I see right through you.

Oh yes. I'm sooooo jealous of people making ISK while having no fun in this game. Personally, I'm having a blast and I'm making more than enough to support the lifestyle I want. There was once a dumb carebear who got into an argument w/ me and bragged about how he made more ISK in a week than I made in a month. I said simply, "I'll have what you'll never have. Enough." Then later that day I blew up his ship and laughed and laughed. The difference between us? I actually participated and had fun in this game. He, however, likely had less fun than I.

Mom must be proud.

Well Rod, so far you are the only one to resort to personal attacks and insults. Well played sir.

You're not going to find much sympathy for miners (especially very angry ones) in the Crime and Punishment section of the forums.

Please carry on with the psychoanalysis and angry teenager comments. It will pleeeease me

Your stories always bring me great joy.
Bless you sir, for doing the Lord's work.

2nd:

You've grabbed my attention as well.

It seems you're unfamiliar with the phrase "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

I'll be seeing you around.


<3 <3 <3

Wow. He's right, just look at that post history. Three posts, all in this thread, and separated by days.

LISAxANN's debut post:




I would feel bad for Deamon Ceed but it looks like he is getting what he deserves. Praising yourself on your alt?.. Really? That is so hilariously pathetic, ROFL.

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so what I am detecting here is that you try to play it with the coolguy sig but in this thread your jealous tears reveal the true butthurt you really feel about the fact that people are making craploads more isk than you while watching **** or netflix or doing w/e. Those stupid! stupid miners!

btw, its not like it took a lot of effort to click once on your name. Try harder, clown. I see right through you.

resort to personal attacks and insults? LOL. I don't have to resort to anything, I'm just calling it like I see it.

nice try on playing your failed "i'm more mature" card while simultaneously proving you aren't.

btw, Deamon, I love that you have to log onto what is obviously your alt to defend yourself and praise yourself. LOL.

Wow, that is so funny, you are much more pathetic than I previously thought.

I love being right about you. Try harder, angry clown.

. There is literally no way two different people could like miner rage/tears this much. *clap clap* well played.

HAHAHA! You even sound exactly the same. I love it when kids try to use words they don't know the meaning of in an attempt to appear smart.

Literally, I went for a walk. literally, I typed on my keyboard. literally, I ate a sandwhich. ROFL....


Deamon Ceed, we really should thank you for this hilarity, I've never seen a bigger joke than you. Thanks for the lolz, clown.

Awesome story! The Islamic vibe gives it quite the unique flavor : )

Your posting is so terrible even for C&P's level of quality. Until your posting quality improves I will be reimbursing anyone who ganks your mining ship and provides an API verified killmail.

Improvement is classified as:
1. Using proper capitalization,
2. No longer using text-speak and instead fully typing out words,
3. Using paragraphs instead of an eye-pain inducing format,
4. Cease correlating anything someone does in a video game to their real lives,
5. Using complete sentences.

HAHAHA! You even sound exactly the same. I love it when kids try to use words they don't know the meaning of in an attempt to appear smart.

Literally, I went for a walk. literally, I typed on my keyboard. literally, I ate a sandwhich. ROFL....


Deamon Ceed, we really should thank you for this hilarity, I've never seen a bigger joke than you. Thanks for the lolz, clown.

HAHAHA! You even sound exactly the same. I love it when kids try to use words they don't know the meaning of in an attempt to appear smart.

Literally, I went for a walk. literally, I typed on my keyboard. literally, I ate a sandwhich. ROFL....


Deamon Ceed, we really should thank you for this hilarity, I've never seen a bigger joke than you. Thanks for the lolz, clown.

While I made the incredibly common mistake of misusing the word "literally", (should have just said absolutely) my point still remains valid. The fact that you log onto a 9 day old alt (with nothing but "Eve PVP sucks" posts) to cry "ALT!!!" is amusing.

The important things to remember in all this are:

Daemon, Astro, and I are the only gankers in eve.
We only do so because of severe social/emotional deficiencies.
None of us can read or write.
There is no way to make a profit ganking.
Anyone disagreeing with you is an angry, butthurt teenager/alt.

ROFLMAO! SO funny how butthurt some kids get when you go down to the basement and shine the flashlight of truth on their pathetic existence. The subconscious is a powerful thing whether you realize it or not. Actions speak louder than words.


Deamon Ceed, you are the first person I've known to make a brag thread, of a claim which isn't even impressive or hard to do in the slightest, and then hop on alts to praise yourself and defend yourself. pffffffffffft..BAHAHAHHAAHAA!!! .......... Still hilarious every time I think about it.

Looking at this thread is like going to wal-mart, I can't help but feel vastly superior to all the derps and and clowns I see.

Thanks, angry kids, for making me feel better about my brain, once again.

E) Just stop. *******. Posting.

ROFLMAO! SO funny how butthurt some kids get when you go down to the basement and shine the flashlight of truth on their pathetic existence. The subconscious is a powerful thing whether you realize it or not. Actions speak louder than words.


Deamon Ceed, you are the first person I've known to make a brag thread, of a claim which isn't even impressive or hard to do in the slightest, and then hop on alts to praise yourself and defend yourself. pffffffffffft..BAHAHAHHAAHAA!!! .......... Still hilarious every time I think about it.

Looking at this thread is like going to wal-mart, I can't help but feel vastly superior to all the derps and and clowns I see.

Thanks, angry kids, for making me feel better about my brain, once again.

Oh hai :)))

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Just getting warmed up.

The one grat irony of this whole post/issue is the gankers thump their chest about the bad carebears ruining the game, having it to easy, making money for free, being lazy, doing repetive tasks for maney, etc. But, ganking hulks in catalysts pretty much fulfils all of those items as well.

If CCP had not buffed the drop of T2 salvage and buffed the destoyers you knuckleheads would get bored some time. Look I have nothing against ganking hulks, but after the third time it was pretty much the same as mining, hop in ship head out for pretty much predetermined result. Gankers pretty much hide from real PVP by using hi sec mechanics, to allow them to pod move and drop a ship when needed.

Look if you are a ganker and want to kill a carebear, hop in a ship self destruct and then pod yourself, one deadd bear.

I really blame CCP for this since real PVP rarely occurs in this game, we have BVP (blob vs player),Pvp(Player vs player who has no chance to fight back, only victory is escape) , and hte occasional BvB. The PVPers get bored and turn theur rage on the peeps whe really just like the crafting system .

Tl, DR version - Just because you can gank it does not make you intersting, good or better than the minor you blew up, you are a bear just like them, have a nice day.

If I were Deamon, I would probably want this thread to die.

Its pretty funny how it started out as a attention-craving brag thread and ended up as such an embarrassing testament to his mental age. Poor kid must have got picked on in school or something. I guess some ppl gotta let their frustrations out somewhere, right? I suppose its better that his social life is regulated to a video game than having the risk of him breeding in the real world. EVE certainly provides a nice outlet for the trash of humanity in that way.

Its really kind of pathetic if you think about it. People like Deamon are acting on their subconscious whether they realize it or not, they want others to feel like they do. Happy, content people don't feel the need to run around trying to annoy other people at their own expense. Its the sign of jealousy and butthurt at the world. Personally, I find no challenge or reward in simply being a d-bag to anyone you can, but different strokes for jokes.

I have to thank Deamon for this thread. Although pathetic, its always somewhat amusing to watch shtbags clown themself so hard and repeatedly. Never have I seen someone actually log on to alts to praise themselves in their own brag thread. I can just picture him now, switching his character and scrolling down the thread, clicking the "like" button for every post he makes. ROFL.

Deamon, you really should post more often. I've never seen a more hilarious clown.

Confirming Deamon is the one acting immature.

If I were Deamon, I would probably want this thread to die.

Its pretty funny how it started out as a attention-craving brag thread and ended up as such an embarrassing testament to his mental age. Poor kid must have got picked on in school or something. I guess some ppl gotta let their frustrations out somewhere, right? I suppose its better that his social life is regulated to a video game than having the risk of him breeding in the real world. EVE certainly provides a nice outlet for the trash of humanity in that way.

Its really kind of pathetic if you think about it. People like Deamon are acting on their subconscious whether they realize it or not, they want others to feel like they do. Happy, content people don't feel the need to run around trying to annoy other people at their own expense. Its the sign of jealousy and butthurt at the world. Personally, I find no challenge or reward in simply being a d-bag to anyone you can, but different strokes for jokes.

I have to thank Deamon for this thread. Although pathetic, its always somewhat amusing to watch shtbags clown themself so hard and repeatedly. Never have I seen someone actually log on to alts to praise themselves in their own brag thread. I can just picture him now, switching his character and scrolling down the thread, clicking the "like" button for every post he makes. ROFL.

Deamon, you really should post more often. I've never seen a more hilarious clown.

Poor Deamon has to have girls fight his battles for him...and dumb ones at that. Deamon's alt was the one to pull the "i'm more mature" card, not Fabulous Rod, tard.

Confirming gankers aren't any less of bears than the miners they are so proud of annoying.

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Confirming gankers aren't any less of bears than the miners they are so proud of annoying.

Oh you ... still using an alt to accuse others of using alts. Despite what you might think, I am indeed a completely different person (even though I found out Daemon and I are darn near neighbors IRL). However, there is no changing your mind so I'll just leave it at that.

Also, it appears that you play Eve much more on Tempban Darkfall than you do on Fabulous Rod. I like to post with a character that is actually active in game. Your alt's name seems similar to a Darkfall toon you've mentioned in the Eve forums. I guess it's easy to talk with such confidence when you don't log in on that toon.

As far as the maturity claims go, I simply pointed out that while you were claiming to be so mature, you were the only one personally attacking others. Take that however you want For being angry, butthurt, teenagers, the pro-gankers that have posted in this thread have somehow managed to avoid taking the events of this game so personal.

While I might dislike your style of gameplay and do my very best to disrupt it, I haven't gone so far as to insult you on a personal level. But like you mentioned, the anonymity of the internet allows people to be who they are deep down inside, right?

Please continue the "HAHAHA/butthurt/pathetic/teenager/hilarious/ALT!/RAGE" posts from a toon that doesn't even log on in game.

ROFL..... you are one sad, mad little clown, aren't you, Deamon?

I agree. Some gankers are bears that just like padding KBs (and making easy money).

If most miners started tanking and/or mining aligned, those carebear gankers would go find something else to do.

However this won't happen, as a large number of miners are either carebears (and want CCP to do everything for them) or new and uninformed.


I look forward to the day when it becomes hard to gank a miner because they take measures to protect themselves (happens about 1/25 that I see, wish it was 24/25).

Well said. I also notice that most (not all) of the self proclaimed 'carebear gankers' that rant and rave about carebears not pvping, don't actually do much pvp themselves! They aren't looking for a fight, which most of low sec and just about all of 0.0 is willing to give them, and the KB's tend to reflect that when you actually look it up.

I respect pvp'rs in general, but tend to lose most of that respect for anyone who just wants to play angles or exploits (yep, I used that E word) which muddy up the game. Slowly working my way from indy to pvp more as time becomes available (kids getting older, less constant maintenance), and having fun with it.


(as a note, I am in no way defending 0 tanked hulk pilots that let THREE unknown destroyers get that close to them. If you are in a system lower than .7 you should not even let 1 dessie get closer than grid spawn before warping.)

This PvE...

embarrassing Hulk loss.

The one grat irony of this whole post/issue is the gankers thump their chest about the bad carebears ruining the game, having it to easy, making money for free, being lazy, doing repetive tasks for maney, etc. But, ganking hulks in catalysts pretty much fulfils all of those items as well.

If CCP had not buffed the drop of T2 salvage and buffed the destoyers you knuckleheads would get bored some time. Look I have nothing against ganking hulks, but after the third time it was pretty much the same as mining, hop in ship head out for pretty much predetermined result. Gankers pretty much hide from real PVP by using hi sec mechanics, to allow them to pod move and drop a ship when needed.

Look if you are a ganker and want to kill a carebear, hop in a ship self destruct and then pod yourself, one deadd bear.

I really blame CCP for this since real PVP rarely occurs in this game, we have BVP (blob vs player),Pvp(Player vs player who has no chance to fight back, only victory is escape) , and hte occasional BvB. The PVPers get bored and turn theur rage on the peeps whe really just like the crafting system .

Tl, DR version - Just because you can gank it does not make you intersting, good or better than the minor you blew up, you are a bear just like them, have a nice day.

getting laid

I do regular pvp a-plenty. Check my killboard. However, my home is sometimes a little...dead. Stuff doesn't survive there long and the neighbors never bring us pies when they move into the neighborhood. Also flying a Hurricane out to highsec as a -10 is a little, how do you say, problematic. Therefore I'll take whatever advantage I can of easy targets when and if they provide an opportunity. I don't PLEX my account or pay $15/month to sit with my thumb up my bum.

Just for lulz though, last week I jumped into a highsec with another of my buddies in Catalysts. We said in local "[Insert Victims Name], we are coming to gank your Hulk! We are in warp now. We're landing. We're shooting you. You're dying. Your pod is still there. We are shooting your pod!" Also my ship was named "GonnaGankUrHulk", which would've been clearly visible on d-scan in a quiet system of 5 residents. Think the target even tried to warp off? Nope. I gave him every opportunity to avoid death, but I did it this way to moreso prove a point than to save him from an embarrassing Hulk loss.

As stated, those guys I have no pity for. They give honest hard working miners like myself a bad name. I do have some problems with a few of the abuse-able mechanics of the game (like suicide ganking in 20mil ships being even possible in high sec vs 1 bil ships. No risk / reward balance there), but CCP has slowly but surely been addressing things like this over time. The threat of being ganked should ALWAYS be in the game, even in High Sec. However, up until recently (and still now, although not as much), it was always in favor of the pirate (Orca exploit, suicide ganking in majorly cheap ships, etc) with no risk whatsoever, or negligible at best. If you want to suicide gank, and you are forced into a T2 hurricane to do it, at least there is a noticeable cost involved. If you have a case of red-flag on you, and you jump into an Orca, even to ship change... and the Orca gets flagged for being involved... there is a notable risk involved.

Changes like that would help a ton. My experience in 0.0 has been ... well... not much more than 0.0, but a change I would love to see there as well is treating Local channel like WH space. From what I have been able to learn, it would make life much more interesting out there.


P.S.: Nice role playing with all the infidel speeches btw.

I really blame CCP for this since real PVP rarely occurs in this game

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This post is very bad CCP has been taking risk out of highsec every patch almost. Does not live in 0.0 but makes suggestions to "fix/improve" it, check. Whines about cheap ships killing expensive ships, check. Claims ganking in highsec is an exploit, check. Claims their is no risk in ganking in highsec, check. Contradicts self multiple times, check.

One more terrible post like that and my ganking sponsorship will be extended to you.

Blah blah blah, brevity, brevity, brevity again for the 6th time even though I wasn't even the one to point it out, yadda yadda yadda spurg.

Second part of this thread made me think of this.

Watch closely, I'm about to win this argument.

I do have some problems with a few of the abuse-able mechanics of the game (like suicide ganking in 20mil ships being even possible in high sec vs 1 bil ships.

No risk / reward balance there), but CCP has slowly but surely been addressing things like this over time.

However, up until recently (and still now, although not as much), it was always in favor of the pirate (Orca exploit, suicide ganking in majorly cheap ships, etc) with no risk whatsoever, or negligible at best.

If you have a case of red-flag on you, and you jump into an Orca, even to ship change... and the Orca gets flagged for being involved... there is a notable risk involved.

My experience in 0.0 has been ... well... not much more than 0.0, but a change I would love to see there as well is treating Local channel like WH space. From what I have been able to learn, it would make life much more interesting out there.

*fap* *fap* *fap*

I'm almost there. Don't stop. Please don't stop!

*fap* *fap* *fap*

hmm, this post wasn't nearly as thought out as your last two. I think you should spend some more time with it, perhaps inject some words you don't understand so you can appear like you aren't a total derp trying to validate your pathetic existence with an unimpressive brag thread. I can recommend a good thesaurus.

I understand, you probably feel like you have to overcompensate when those stupid, dumb-dumb miners are ruining the game by making craploads more isk than you. If its any consolation, you do make an excellent clown.

"As stated, those guys I have no pity for. They give honest hard workingminers like myself a bad name. "
Contradicts self multiple times, check. Too many examples to cite only one is cited.


Whines about cheap ships killing expensive ships, check. Claims ganking in highsec is an exploit, check.

I've digested your post and shown you where each point applies because you missed it earlier. I do this in hopes that you will become more aware and less dense but I realize I may be asking too much. This is your one freebie, another terrible post and you will be added to the sponsorship list.

f) Not enough people post on these forums as it is, try to be a bit less insulting and a bit more constructive with your posts. Goonswarm is supposed to have some of the most dedicated and knowledgeable players in game. If this is the case, throw in some actual ideas other than 'bad post go away'. I'd love to read them.


~Zyella

Saying mining in highsec is hard work is a contradiction in itself. If it were hard work it wouldn't be done mostly afk. Talk to your son he can explain why a lot of those ideas are bad. I only discourage bad posting, other than that never stop posting.

Saying mining in highsec is hard work is a contradiction in itself. If it were hard work it wouldn't be done mostly afk. Talk to your son he can explain why a lot of those ideas are bad. I only discourage bad posting, other than that never stop posting.

hmm, this post wasn't nearly as thought out as your last two. I think you should spend some more time with it, perhaps inject some words you don't understand so you can appear like you aren't a total derp trying to validate your pathetic existence with an unimpressive brag thread. I can recommend a good thesaurus.

I understand, you probably feel like you have to overcompensate when those stupid, dumb-dumb miners are ruining the game by making craploads more isk than you. If its any consolation, you do make an excellent clown.

INFIDEL AND PROUD!

I think that fact that Daemon Creed posts here only makes his job harder.

I was doing a corp mining op last night and sat on D Scan, Any destroyer on dscan with the player name gets a search on battle clinic.

If I were to spot daemon creeds name in local I don't need to search just hit the dock button I know why he is here.

As long as he keeps getting kills it only reinforces the fact that he is right.

You, however, are not the breed of miner I am after. My prey is the absent, uninvolved and completely incompetent run of the mill miner in Eve. .

You mean the guy who makes craploads more isk than you while afk? I wouldn't even care about losing a hulk that I could so effortlessly replace.

Your sig says "play however the hell you want", so why are you so butthurt about the way they play?

He isn't butthurt, he is pointing out that the smart people seldom get taken out by him (because they move out of the way when he shows up) and the ones that do usualy learn how to not get caught again.

And as for making craploads more than he does, this simply isn't true. It's possilbe to make upwards of 30 mill off of a single hulk kill. Assuming the loot/salvage faries hate you and you only manage to pocket about 15-20 mill per hulk, and a single character can gank at LEAST one hulk every 20 minutes. the profit potential for killing a hulk is much greater than flying it in highsec.

The one grat irony of this whole post/issue is the gankers thump their chest about the bad carebears ruining the game, having it to easy, making money for free, being lazy, doing repetive tasks for maney, etc. But, ganking hulks in catalysts pretty much fulfils all of those items as well.

Look I have nothing against ganking hulks, but after the third time it was pretty much the same as mining, hop in ship head out for pretty much predetermined result. Gankers pretty much hide from real PVP by using hi sec mechanics, to allow them to pod move and drop a ship when needed.

Look if you are a ganker and want to kill a carebear, hop in a ship self destruct and then pod yourself, one deadd bear.

I really blame CCP for this since real PVP rarely occurs in this game, we have BVP (blob vs player),Pvp(Player vs player who has no chance to fight back, only victory is escape) , and hte occasional BvB. The PVPers get bored and turn theur rage on the peeps whe really just like the crafting system .

Tl, DR version - Just because you can gank it does not make you intersting, good or better than the minor you blew up, you are a bear just like them, have a nice day.

He isn't butthurt, he is pointing out that the smart people seldom get taken out by him (because they move out of the way when he shows up) and the ones that do usualy learn how to not get caught again.

And as for making craploads more than he does, this simply isn't true. It's possilbe to make upwards of 30 mill off of a single hulk kill. Assuming the loot/salvage faries hate you and you only manage to pocket about 15-20 mill per hulk, and a single character can gank at LEAST one hulk every 20 minutes. the profit potential for killing a hulk is much greater than flying it in highsec.

QFT. My typical profit per Hulk is over ~35mil, give or take. Gotten lucky on my last gank and got 3 Intact Armor plates + 2 Power Circuits. That plus Strip Miner II's make for a nice take home, and I most of the time I get 1/2-3/4's of my T1 guns back. So yes, farming afk miners is very profitable. It easily allows for a sustainable ganking campaign.

stuff

You also forget to account for the loss of ISK due to them no longer mining.

So not only does mining make pitiful isk, if you do it afk and get ganked, you end up losing not only the ship(s) but also from not being able to mine (plus implants if the ganker goes back).

Thanks for condensing all that for me.
@ Fabulous Rod: Show me the math where a miner can make "craploads" of isk mining in highsec.

Hey.. if he shows how miners can make "craploads of isk" mining afk in highsec, even after factoring in suicide ganks..
Shouldn't that be a good reason to make afk mining riskier?

I don't think you should be able to make "craploads of isk" (again .. starting to hate this formulation) by "playing" afk at all, no matter what activity.

If you're mining for 18 hours a day you are likely unemployed or botting. With that in mind, if you are employed or aren't one of the lucky few who can play while at work, it's unlikely you'll be mining for 18hrs a day.

Lol, I only wish. I could see it now: *Has perp across the hood and handcuffed* "Hey, SIT STILL a minute, I need to switch asteroids". Would definitely make things more interesting at work.

I was underplaying it a bit. Note the part where I said "upwards of 30 mill" And I'm not sure how you can make "craploads" of isk mining in highsec. Highsec ore's aren't worth a whole lot and mining in general is fairly poor in terms of isk/hour. The tradeoff being it is less involved (at its core) than most other income sources.

douchebag and proud

The one grat irony of this whole post/issue is the gankers thump their chest about the bad carebears ruining the game, having it to easy, making money for free, being lazy, doing repetive tasks for maney, etc. But, ganking hulks in catalysts pretty much fulfils all of those items as well.

Look I have nothing against ganking hulks, but after the third time it was pretty much the same as mining, hop in ship head out for pretty much predetermined result. Gankers pretty much hide from real PVP by using hi sec mechanics, to allow them to pod move and drop a ship when needed.

Look if you are a ganker and want to kill a carebear, hop in a ship self destruct and then pod yourself, one deadd bear.

I really blame CCP for this since real PVP rarely occurs in this game, we have BVP (blob vs player),Pvp(Player vs player who has no chance to fight back, only victory is escape) , and hte occasional BvB. The PVPers get bored and turn theur rage on the peeps whe really just like the crafting system .

Tl, DR version - Just because you can gank it does not make you intersting, good or better than the minor you blew up, you are a bear just like them, have a nice day.

I just think its so funny that you created an unimpressive brag thread where you are trying to appear clever but clown yourself by using words you don't even understand, accuse miners of being dumb, when really, they did everything anyone might do to combat suicide gankers, they fit tanks, you got more people to waste their time, and the next time it happened they moved. Its obvious to me that you are some deranged individual who gets off on simply being a douchebag to anyone you can. Happy, content people don't do stuff like this. The subconcious is a powerful thing and that is why they say actions speak louder than words, your words are really meaningless. Also, we know know its not nearly as profitable as you try to make it out to be, nor as fun. Its also pretty funny how you get on alts to praiseyourself, Who does that? Kids like yourself who are butthurt at the world and spend all their time trying to annoy others are really the most pathetic of people. Its no wonder your social life is restricted to a video game.

For the number of times you would get randomly suicide ganked in a month, mining afk in a hulk is totally worth it. Theres nothing dumb about being a miner. However, it is dumb to pat yourself on the back for ganking them, being that it is so simply and without risk, and really, not very profitable at all considering all the prep work and the isk you could be making with 3 ppl.

Your sig says "play however the hell you want" and then you criticize miners for how they play.

Basically, you are just an all-around fool and clown and I just think its fun to point that out to your face in your own brag thread. I'm a pvper and I like to pvp, the difference is that I like to put the douchebags in their place when I pvp rather than just go around looking for random people to annoy. It's more fun to fuk with butthurt angsty derps who actually deserve to be curbstomped, like Deamon. Its a sense of justice breing brought as well. I like a challenge, poor deamon probably isn't used to pvp where people fight back. Whats is more satisfying, gloating over a victory where your egotistical opponent actually tried to fight back and lost in a fair fight or gloating over the fact you shot some fish in a barrel? I think that answer is obvious.

just in case you missed it

Actualy I'd wager he posted this thread to bait idiots like you into abusing the word "subconcious". Also you still haven't shown any math in regards to how much a miner can make per hour. So untill then I'm going to assume it's around 15 mill/hour.

ah yes, the reaction of an angry derp that lacks any basis in reality. thank you for that

blah blah alts...

Still not seeing in math being done over there.

see if my friend wants to waste his time, I don't care to enlighten you on the profits of rig production.

see if my friend wants to waste his time, I don't care to enlighten you on the profits of rig production.

You still have yet to provide proof of any alts.

You sound much like a cynical chicken little...

Actualy rig production is what I do. Becuase you use salvage for that. You can't get salvage from asteroids. So; congradulations on understanding EVE mechanics.

just look at the post history and the way he talks, it should be pretty obvious. Damn, you are dumb.

its just one assumption after another with you, isn't it?

you derps make this way too easy.

That's supposition, not proof.

The same supposition that makes someone think you are a teenager with an axe to grind about gankers. Along with some personal issues.

Both are equally stupid assumptions.



About as useful as sand in Africa.

Did you know that Africa is paying top dollar for sand right now?

Assumption?

Fact: rig making uses salvage
Fact: salvage does not come from roids


Where is the assumption?

wow, really? Do i have to spell EVERYTHING out for you?

The assumption he made was that we aren't also using salvage to make rigs.

I kinda feel bad for you two being that dumb, but not surprised, you are defending someone like Deamon Ceed after all.

How was that waterslide btw?

The whole point of this discussion was that you said afk mining was a way to make craploads of isk. I am still waiting for you to show me how you can make craploads of isk mining while afk, in highsec.

Seeing as my question remains unanswered, I shall exercise my right to declare victory. Have a nice day.

Call up any investor and ask them what their trade secrets are see how successful you are at getting any specific info, most of them are even less likely to provide such info to someone whom they know is a derpish forum clown.

Of course, you are the first to declare victory and scamper away with your tail between your legs when you can't argue any further. Fking classic

I'll indulge you one last time. I never asked for some big mining "secret" (mining laser upgrades increase your mining yield) I asked for you to break down and quantify the earning potential of a miner in highsec. You have still left this point unanswered, therefore, I win by default.

wow, really? Do i have to spell EVERYTHING out for you?

The assumption he made was that we aren't also using salvage to make rigs.

I kinda feel bad for you two being that dumb, but not surprised. You are defending someone like Deamon Ceed after all.

How was that waterslide btw?

Daemon: Salaam Aleykum, Wow, your gloat is both repulsive and morally repugnant.

Best post ever. Thank you for that, brother!

Relatively new to Eve I've learned....spurg

Some of the posts by the OP during the first few pages remind me of Corporal Klinger...

Ironic! You remind me of Hot Lips. Feminine with a bitchy undertone.

Bitchy doesn't work, it was more the back-stabbing vibe she had with Frank Burns, before he went a bit mental.

So this thread turned out to be a typical rollercoaster of fail.... It started with someone patting himself on the back over a silly suicide gank or 2 or 4 and quickly turned into a freshman retreat pissing match.


Relatively new to Eve I've learned one thing that the ganked seemed to know and the proud ganker hasn't figured out
(any ship you fly will get popped eventually) if you mine... you will lose ships much more often.

The hulk pilot returned to the spot he was ganked for a reason. The %'s game. Mining with 2 hulks will net some serious $$ over a large stretch of hours. Believe it or not... he more than likely has paid for those hulks 10 times over from doing just what he did. Return to the belt and start his operation back up. At some point the obnoxious grief hungry belt roaming parasites will get bored and find something else to do....


As long as anyone who is mining is smart enough to not let a scuicide gank scare them away from asteroid belts you will nearly ALWAYS come out positive on the $$ side of the equation (lose a ship or two or not)

Maybe ill get popped tomorrow... chances are however probably not... The reason the system works is there will be many more days where you mine freely and rake in ore to vastly outrank your losses in random isolated gank/shiplosses....


an isolated hulk gank being celebrated by a few t1 alts or bored griefers is like a losing team scoring a touchdown at the end of a Blow out football game... then rushing the field and tearing down the goalpost to celebrate their "score"

I don't understand. Why would anyone want to kill a poor, defenseless miner?

...if you mine... you will lose ships much more often.....

Corina: I agree, I've never lost a mining boat to a player. I often mine in HS and LS when I have the urge and love grav spawns. Quite lucrative. However, I can't sit on rocks for hours unless it's ark or crok, etc.


Genna: I think it's mostly because perps are lazy. Ganking provides quick returns when it's successful. I just think it should not be allowed in HS in order to give new players a chance to learn the game.

Corina: "The purpose of HS is so that mineral prices can be somewhat reasonable (aside from RP reasons I mean). This is also the purpose of ganking. Remove it, and mineral prices would plummet, along with the price of everything else. It would make EVE stagnant. "

hm. Well haven't read a dev post to that affect. True minerals prices would drop, why is that a bad thing? Make Eve stagnant?? I don't see that at all, there is WH, LS, and NS space to play in, why is safe HS space guaranteed to stagnate Eve?


- Majiir

I don't understand. Why would anyone want to kill a poor, defenseless miner?

Corina: "The purpose of HS is so that mineral prices can be somewhat reasonable (aside from RP reasons I mean). This is also the purpose of ganking. Remove it, and mineral prices would plummet, along with the price of everything else. It would make EVE stagnant. "

hm. Well haven't read a dev post to that affect. True minerals prices would drop, why is that a bad thing? Make Eve stagnant?? I don't see that at all, there is WH, LS, and NS space to play in, why is safe HS space guaranteed to stagnate Eve?


- Majiir

K lets hold the phone right here. What's getting blown up are miners, often new player miners.. you know, those guys that are supplying the raw materials to your manufacturers to meet demand. So it is supply that is affected, the only increase in demand will be on mining ships... maybe, assuming they don't say - C ya. So now's there's a decrease in supply hence an increase in raw material prices..hence an increase in prices for manufactured goods.

Ummm no, if miners are not blown up and demand stayed roughly the same, then supply would tend to meet demand and the price would trend to equilibrium. Since we're only talking about a change in demand of mining ships, the real impact isn't this small demand increase but rather the loss of supply of raw minerals with a near steady demand, hence you have a price increase in HS. Which we've seen.

Ummm no, blowing up mining ships isn't significantly changing your overall demand, it's impacting your supply, creating a scarcity in raw minerals.

No kidding, yeah I bet those miners can't wait to get out there and get splashed into atoms again.

Anyway I acknowledge your opinion on it, but so far mine remains the same. o/

- Majiir

Tarr: " The EVE market functions because of two things.
Demand the other is the velocity of supply through the market. things getting urp-sploded must be replaced more often, even if the sheer numbers of things built/sold don't change much"

K lets hold the phone right here. What's getting blown up are miners, often new player miners.. you know, those guys that are supplying the raw materials to your manufacturers to meet demand. So it is supply that is affected, the only increase in demand will be on mining ships... maybe, assuming they don't say - C ya. So now's there's a decrease in supply hence an increase in raw material prices..hence an increase in prices for manufactured goods.

"If nothing got blowed-up on a fairly frequent basis, then yes, the price of things would drop."

Ummm no, if miners are not blown up and demand stayed roughly the same, then supply would tend to meet demand and the price would trend to equilibrium. Since we're only talking about a change in demand of mining ships, the real impact isn't this small demand increase but rather the loss of supply of raw minerals with a near steady demand, hence you have a price increase in HS. Which we've seen.

"But it would drop because there was no demand, so who would you sell--or more to the point, who would need to buy from you--all that suddenly cheap-to-build stuff to? "

Ummm no, blowing up mining ships isn't significantly changing your overall demand, it's impacting your supply, creating a scarcity in raw minerals.

"The "supply" side in this game's economy is guaranteed:"

No kidding, yeah I bet those miners can't wait to get out there and get splashed into atoms again.


"And given how much of the player base is in hisec glutting up it's markets, then if you really want to make money as a crafter, then you wouldn't be against ganking--you'd be for the removal of CONCORD even, because that would guarantee maximum consistent demand, and turn-over of stock--that is, freeing up the money you'd invested in same, with profit, to re-invest, and put it to work for you again more quickly."

Well the only way this works is if you have an existing supply (really big supply) of raw materials to build from and take advantage of the higher market prices. Otherwise your screwed as a crafter because you have to buy raw minerals at higher prices, eating into your margins. Can you say 100.00 pu trit? I can certainly see how your plan would put every fledgeling crafter out of business tho.

How about the part where mining ships require materials that could otherwise be used to build other ships? It's called opportunity cost, and once you make it to high school I recomend taking economics. It's a real eye opener.

-snip-

I don't understand. Why would anyone want to kill a poor, defenseless miner?

Because it's friggen hilarious!

Oh, and for profit...and the 72 virgins. Still waiting on mine. I told them not to ship them via UPS!

I refuse to play the Virgins game.. I'd most likely get men

Also, yes M*A*S*H is one of the best; my box-set of it is the only reason I still vaguely think well of an ex-girlfriend.

You may want to go check your math again. Hulks are incredibly expensive. And ore (especialy highsec ore) isn't that great in terms of income.

Fixed!

Help rid he's of miners.

Please bring cynabals and dramiels for orca.

Why not?

Suicide is painless, after all

I'm not really sure how to respond to that, so I'm just going to leave this....here: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/97/252849242_373d779ccd.jpg

Stupid auto correct.... EHA....COME TO EHA... MINERS ARE HERE IN EHA....BRING CYNABALS AND DRAMIELS TOFIGHT THE MINERS IN EHA

Interesting. Nothing gets auto corrected when using caps lock

Riiiight, because we all use pirate faction frigs and cruisers to kill miners. I see through your plan ;)

[Sorceror Majiir] What's getting blown up are miners, often new player miners.. you know, those guys that are supplying the raw materials to your manufacturers to meet demand. So it is supply that is affected, the only increase in demand will be on mining ships... maybe, assuming they don't say - C ya. So now's there's a decrease in supply hence an increase in raw material prices..hence an increase in prices for manufactured goods.

Look on Battleclinic, bru:

Most kills are still of war-ships, not mining ships.

The supply of the resource itself is not affected, it's always there, and always will be. And there will always be someone to mine it